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Fire-breathing bartenders arrested, face 45 years (Nanny State)
www.washingtonexaminer.c om ^ | August 17, 2010 | By: Scott McCabe
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Two fire-breathing bartenders face up to 45 years in prison each for performing flaming bar tricks.
Jimmy's Old Town Tavern owner Jimmy Cirrito said his bartenders have been entertaining his customers -- by juggling bottles of alcohol and spitting out streams of flames using matchbooks and lighters -- for more than a decade and no one's complained. But shortly after midnight on July 24, two of his longtime employees were hauled out of the Herndon bar in handcuffs and charged with three felonies each plus other misdemeanors
"They were being treated as if they were terrorists, charged as if they intentionally tried to burn down the tavern," Cirrito said.
Fairfax County fire investigators charged Tegee Rogers, 33, of Herndon, and Justin Fedorchak, 39, of Manassas, with manufacturing an explosive device, setting a fire capable of spreading, and burning or destroying a meeting house. They also were charged with several state fire code misdemeanors.
Both men have worked at the tavern nearly since it opened. They both recently became fathers and are very anxious about facing serious criminal charges, Cirrito said.
Jimmy's Old Town Tavern bartenders have performed the fire-breathing act for 13 years, at first doing the tricks on special occasions like birthdays or to honor a fallen fireman, police officer or soldier, Cirrito said. By 1999, the fire-breathing bartenders had become a Friday midnight tradition, he said. The bar uses the fire-breathing bartenders on its advertisements.
Cirrito said an investigator told him that the marshals received a letter in the mail with a photo taken of a previous performance at the bar.
Cirrito said he has never received a warning from the fire marshals, and he would have stopped if marshals had given him a warning.
"But I don't think we've doing anything wrong," he said. "There's a lot of fire in restaurants. I've been served flaming desserts, I've roasted marshmallows on tables, I've seen 75 candles and sparklers on cakes, and I've seen bartenders perform the tricks coast-to-coast and no one's been arrested."
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It's a shame that they weren't Muslims deliberately trying to burn the bar down. Obama would have recommended them for medals of honor and marched them around the globe opening Mosques with tax payer money.
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It's a shame that they weren't Muslims deliberately trying to burn the bar down. Obama would have recommended them for medals of honor and marched them around the globe opening Mosques with tax payer money.
Ha Ha. They should have just said they are practicing their relgion.
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Crazy. Common sense takes a back seat again.
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Crazy. Common sense takes a back seat again.
No it is not crazy. This is what happens when you go according to your FEELINGS as opposed to LAW. The same person screaming NANNY STATE is the same screaming about his feelings on what is not right...problem is unless something is in violation of the law it is perfectly legitimate/legal. Now here we have two bartenders who have been arrested with no violation of any kind yet the cops "FEEL" like there is something NOT RIGHT in what they are doing.
You can't hav eit both ways...either you follow the law or you don't and if you don't prepare for abuses.
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Crazy. Common sense takes a back seat again.
Agreed!
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No it is not crazy. This is what happens when you go according to your FEELINGS as opposed to LAW. The same person screaming NANNY STATE is the same screaming about his feelings on what is not right...problem is unless something is in violation of the law it is perfectly legitimate/legal. Now here we have two bartenders who have been arrested with no violation of any kind yet the cops "FEEL" like there is something NOT RIGHT in what they are doing.
You can't hav eit both ways...either you follow the law or you don't and if you don't prepare for abuses.
What the heck are you talking about? Who said there was "no violation of any kind"? On what basis do you conclude the arrest was based on "feelings"?
It's about excercising good judgment, discretion, and using common sense.
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I am all for supporting our law enforcement officers, it's often a thankless job yet one that's much needed. That said, it seems to me that many in law enforcement have gone beyond what their duty should be and I do not believe it is an isolated problem. They have been given power over the common man, power over the people and this was never power they were intended to have.
Both Madison and Hamilton talked about this to a degree, we were never intended to have police, we were intended to have peace keeping officers and yes, there is a big difference.
Interesting facts, the word "police" in it's original English state was used to describe a police state...hmm, does that sound familiar? It should, it's what e often call a communist state. When we look at American history, there is a reason famous law men are not referred to as "Police Officers" men like Wyatt Earp never held this title. They were peace keepers, they enforced the rule of law on those that were in violent opposition of it, they DID NOT police the people.