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Title: end all unemployment
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 03:10:25 AM
http://www.guy-media-matters-imus-fox-nword/2010/08/18/id/367864
Title: end all unemployment
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 03:17:56 AM
do not pay people to sit on ass
Title: Analysis: Protecting Obama Cost Prosecution Blago Case Tuesday, 17 Aug 2010 09:
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 03:48:37 AM

Analysis: Protecting Obama Cost Prosecution Blago Case
Tuesday, 17 Aug 2010 09:35 PM
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By: David A. Patten

Federal prosecutors' decision to "protect" Obama administration officials by not calling them to testify against former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich is "absolutely" responsible for the prosecution's stunning failure to get convictions on 23 of 24 counts, a Fox News legal analyst who closely followed the trial tells Newsmax.

Not obtaining a guilty verdict on any of the primary counts leveled against Blagojevich was viewed as a serious setback for prosecutors, especially given the federal conviction rate of over 95 percent.

"They should be so embarrassed," Fox news legal commentator Tamara Holder, a Chicago-area attorney, tells Newsmax.

Holder blamed the outcome on the lack of compelling testimony.

"I think that this is a very interesting issue, because I think that [White House Chief of Staff Rahm] Emanuel was not called [to testify], Axelrod, whomever else, Obama himself, in an effort to protect the administration," Holder says. "You know once you open the door and you put these guys on the stand, well, the cat's out of the bag and you open them to cross-examination and whatnot."

Holder characterized the verdict as "a great victory for the defense, because [U.S. Attorney] Patrick Fitzgerald promised us that Lincoln would be rolling over in his grave."

Holder adds: "He promised us that he stopped Gov. Blagojevich from his crime spree dead in his tracks, and today's decision was proof that that was a lie. The lie today was Fitzgerald lying to us, not Gov. Blagojevich lying to the FBI."

The Chicago Sun-Times described the single-count verdict as "decidedly undecided."

The jury had endured over six weeks of hearings and 14 days of deliberations. Late Tuesday, it convicted Blagojevich on only one charge, a "process crime" that he had lied to FBI officers during their investigation.

That charge was ancillary to the original allegation that Blagojevich had offered President Obama's former Senate seat to the higher bidder.

Blagojevich, never at a loss for words, responded indignantly after the verdict was announced.

“This was a persecution,’’ he said of the government's case. “. . . They threw everything they could at me. The jury agreed the government did not prove its case.’’

Prosecutors originally portrayed Blagojevich's actions as a vivid example of blatant corruption.

Fitzgerald had called his actions "a political corruption crime spree."
Blagojevich was arrested in December 2008 after FBI wiretaps recorded him profanely discussing what benefit he could derive from his decision of whom to appoint to the vacant seat.

The FBI famously recorded Blagojevich as saying: “I’ve got this thing and it’s f------ golden and I’m not giving it up for f------ nothing."

During the trial, however, Blagojevich's legal team told that the former governor was just spouting off and negotiating as politicians often do.

Holder was in the court room when the jury's verdict was read. She tells Newsmax that prosecutors looked angry and upset when the verdict was announced.

"They are in denial," she said of prosecutors. "They believe that this was just a bad jury. If I were a juror I would be very offended that this jury wasn't good enough. That's what I sensed they were saying."

Prosecutors immediately announced that they would seek a retrial on the counts the jury proved unable to decide.

One estimate Friday was that retrying the remaining counts could cost the government $25 to $30 million.

According to Holder's sources, the case had a witness list of between 600 and 800 people, including several top Obama officials such as White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, White House adviser David Axelrod, and White House adviser Valerie Jarrett.

Prosecutors only called 35 witnesses during the trial, however. None were from the administration.

Chicago businessman Tony Rezko, who was convicted of corruption under Blagojevich, was not called. Nor was former state board member Stuart Levine, a million-dollar Blagojevich campaign donor who pled guilty in October 2006 to taking kickbacks.

"I think the Obama administration really escaped a lot of scrutiny because Emanuel wasn't called. A few union reps [testified]. Other than that, nothing was revealed," Holder says.

Asked if she believed not calling the administration officials hurt the prosecution's case, Holder replied: "Absolutely. That's exactly what this is. It was a gamble: If we protect the administration, and we don't call the key people, then can we still get a win without calling them? I think that the jury's failure to reach a decision on those counts was proof that we needed the people within the administration to tell the story: Was that seat for sale?"

When questions arose in late 2008 over what discussions took place between Obama, his advisers, and then-Gov. Blagojevich, Greg Craig, the soon-to-be White House counsel, conducted an inquiry and wrote a memo for public consumption stating there was no indication of "inappropriate discussions" occurring between the governor's office.

Obama stated he had "never spoken to the governor" about the vacant seat and had "no contact" with his office.

Craig's memo, released Dec. 23, 2008, acknowledged that in the days leading up to the election Emanuel had "one or two" conversations with Blagojevich.

During the trial, however, former Blagojevich chief of staff John Harris testified that Emanuel called and told him then-Sen. Obama wanted a "close friend" of his appointed to the Senate seat.

Harris testified that he understood that person to be Valerie Jarrett, Obama's close friend and fund-raiser who now serves as one of his senior advisers.

Harris testified: "[Emanuel] asked whether it would be helpful if Sen. Obama called the governor to advocate for this individual." Harris replied "sure."

"He said, 'I'll let you know," Harris added. "He wanted to say that [Obama] had a preference."

Holder tells Newsmax that to retry the case successfully prosecutors will have to be more aggressive about presenting witnesses. She believes they will have to call Emanuel to the stand.

"Now, this is a very, very interesting situation because if the prosecution is going to retry this case, they are going to have to put Emanuel [on the stand to testify], [and] maybe Obama," Holder says.
Title: why build a muslim church where muslims zapped USA buildings? WTF
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 04:04:48 AM
I don't get it
Title: amazing I saw msn claim "combat" troops are home, just 50,000 non combat troops
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 09:05:58 AM
amazing I saw msn claim "combat" troops are home, just 50,000 non combat troops remain in iraq, now watch obama claim he ended the iraq war!
Title: 2008 economic nuke caused by governmetn banking
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 09:23:33 AM
take away freddy fannie adn fed and bush 8 years suddenly awesome.

thanks dems for taking the blame so gracefulyl and owning up!
Title: obama economy now officially worse than Carter stagflation
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 09:29:19 AM
woo nelly
http://spectator.org/archives/2010/08/19/worse-than-carter (http://spectator.org/archives/2010/08/19/worse-than-carter)

Obama can't say something and make it true lOl!
http://www.seattlepi.com/business/1310ap_us_obama.html (http://www.seattlepi.com/business/1310ap_us_obama.html)
hope!
lol
LOL
change!! lol
bigest deficit ever!
http://blog.heritage.org/2010/02/05/past-deficits-vs-obamas-deficits-in-pictures/ (http://blog.heritage.org/2010/02/05/past-deficits-vs-obamas-deficits-in-pictures/)
Title: Re: obama economy now officially worse than Carter stagflation
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 19, 2010, 09:32:21 AM
Drain the swamp. 
Title: ann coulter "USA is only country where you drop a baby and get to be citizen"
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 09:35:45 AM
http://anncoulter.com/
Title: democrats hypnotize voters with "bush evil" crap yet nothing back it up
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 09:40:00 AM
2008 caued by fed+fanny+government banking

so falls apart
Title: why are members of fed all jewish?
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 10:20:49 AM
wtf 1984
Title: when will capitalists retake the courts? commies emcamped in legal arena sucks
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 10:30:19 AM
seriosly

http://www.erumors.net/rumors/d/democrats-lawyers.htm (http://www.erumors.net/rumors/d/democrats-lawyers.htm)
Title: phrases to watch for by lefties
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 11:08:03 AM
jump the shark   --- stupid media fag phrase has 0 meaning

FACTS   --   commyspeak for "what my opinion is"

expire tax cuts  ----   "raise taxes"

tax cuts for the rich    ---   tax cuts that lower taxes for a guy making 15k a year as well, since there is no provision saying "you only get this tax cut if you make over X $"

stimulus    ---   spending over tax income, so wither piling on difict that then compaunds at interest rate, or raise taxes later to pay it, so "raising taxes"


Title: Re: phrases to watch for by lefties
Post by: Fury on August 19, 2010, 11:12:30 AM
Again with this fucking gimmick, AXA? How many accounts has Ron timed out now? Has to be coming up on at least a dozen.
Title: Re: phrases to watch for by lefties
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 11:35:13 AM
ron?
Title: Re: phrases to watch for by lefties
Post by: Fury on August 19, 2010, 11:58:41 AM
ron?


You're too stupid to change your posting style among your various gimmicks. Far too obvious. I give you a week before you back in time out.
Title: Re: why are members of fed all jewish?
Post by: SAMSON123 on August 19, 2010, 12:05:43 PM
Because there is MONEY involved....That answer your question?
Title: hows the scarcity of communism taste folks? tase it!
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 12:17:51 PM
that what u get for voting obama
Title: Re: hows the scarcity of communism taste folks? tase it!
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 19, 2010, 12:28:05 PM
that what u get for voting obama

Its only going to get drastically worse from here with obama/pelosi. 
Title: ron reagan revolution needs to be re started go mitt
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 12:29:16 PM
aw yeah!

watch mitt explode obama in debates!
Title: mitt romney will p0wn obama in debates
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 01:15:56 PM
all he has to say is "you are addicted to overspending and lying about it"
done
Title: cut governmetn spending and economy will grow
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 01:40:11 PM
simple
Title: obama deficit hits 4.5B
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 01:52:58 PM
wow

and this is over and above bush bailouts
Title: union bailout bill next up for democrat scum
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 05:04:49 PM
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/71234 (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/71234)
Title: ISP lie on bandwidth
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 05:58:47 PM
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/19/fcc_broadband_performance_study/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/19/fcc_broadband_performance_study/)
Title: google caught bidding on own ad auctions spanked SCUM DO NOEVIL
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 05:59:28 PM
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/18/google_adwords_house_ads_conflict_of_interest/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/18/google_adwords_house_ads_conflict_of_interest/)
Title: market solution: if medical costs a lot train millions new doctors and commodify
Post by: tallgerman on August 19, 2010, 06:34:14 PM
train zillions new docs!

simple

why not?

beter than zillions of obama governmetn workers

or make governmetn workers productive eg doctor or engineers
Title: richard stallman on freedom
Post by: tallgerman on August 20, 2010, 11:12:39 AM
Title: would you build a german nazi shrine on site of dachau?
Post by: tallgerman on August 20, 2010, 11:27:14 AM
I dont get it
Title: dems to cause greatest economic collapse ever
Post by: tallgerman on August 20, 2010, 11:38:51 AM
Title: goverment caused 2008, yet do same
Post by: tallgerman on August 20, 2010, 11:46:59 AM
why not stop
Title: israel staring gaze war of attrition
Post by: tallgerman on August 20, 2010, 11:48:43 AM
wow
dooshez

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/aug2010/gaza-a03.shtml (http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/aug2010/gaza-a03.shtml)
Title: suprise! socialism aka communism never works! lol yeah1
Post by: tallgerman on August 20, 2010, 11:52:07 AM
http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/why-socialism-failed/ (http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/why-socialism-failed/)
Title: only paces masses have escaped grinding poverty is where capitalism held sway
Post by: tallgerman on August 20, 2010, 12:04:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p31-xQ2Rrz4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p31-xQ2Rrz4)
Title: fake tits are profit path for women
Post by: tallgerman on August 20, 2010, 12:11:06 PM
Title: Re: suprise! socialism aka communism never works! lol yeah1
Post by: SAMSON123 on August 20, 2010, 12:11:56 PM
Funny how in the first paragraph of that story DEMOCRACY can be substituted for SOCIALISM and yet the end result is the same

Quote
"Socialism is the Big Lie of the twentieth century. While it promised prosperity, equality, and security, it delivered poverty, misery, and tyranny. Equality was achieved only in the sense that everyone was equal in his or her misery."

Now substitute democracy

Quote
Democracy is the Big Lie of the twentieth century. While it promised prosperity, equality, and security, it delivered poverty, misery, and tyranny. Equality was achieved only in the sense that everyone was equal in his or her misery.

See...The end results are the same
Title: Re: suprise! socialism aka communism never works! lol yeah1
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 20, 2010, 12:36:53 PM
Funny how in the first paragraph of that story DEMOCRACY can be substituted for SOCIALISM and yet the end result is the same

Now substitute democracy

See...The end results are the same

Do you prefer A Global Caliphate imposing Sharia on everyone? 
Title: Re: suprise! socialism aka communism never works! lol yeah1
Post by: Fury on August 20, 2010, 12:38:42 PM
Do you prefer A Global Caliphate imposing Sharia on everyone? 

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Of course she would. Samson's a bitter, uneducated black Muslim that blames the government for the fact that her career amounts to selling snake oil gas caps out of the trunk of her car.

Samson, don't blame the government. Blame the fact that you're trash.
Title: cognizant technology solutions outsources to india and greenplumb is psotgresql
Post by: tallgerman on August 20, 2010, 12:52:59 PM
just telling truth
Title: shoot all democrats
Post by: tallgerman on August 20, 2010, 02:09:56 PM
that make economy explode
Title: obama economy worse than bush, obama+bush+bigger war+bigger unemplyment
Post by: tallgerman on August 20, 2010, 02:23:29 PM
woa nelly obama worst
Title: my political platform in 1 pic
Post by: tallgerman on August 20, 2010, 02:33:27 PM
(http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pqssxc9)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IHTxHOWRA6U/TG74V0ZpTFI/AAAAAAAAAeU/MJqSc9DBINk/s1600/nice.jpg)

http://technoninja.blogspot.com/2010/08/cute-woman-motivated-to-improve-herself.html (http://technoninja.blogspot.com/2010/08/cute-woman-motivated-to-improve-herself.html)

http://technoninja.blogspot.com/2010/08/cute-woman-motivated-to-improve-herself.html
Title: girl confesses to murder on tom leykis show
Post by: tallgerman on August 20, 2010, 03:16:41 PM
Title: Re: girl confesses to murder on tom leykis show
Post by: garebear on August 20, 2010, 03:28:24 PM
The evidence was presented to the Maricopa County Attorney’s Office and charges are being sought against Megan Suzanne Vice of El Mirage, who police name as their suspect in the case.[54]  In 2009, it was revealed that the woman will not be prosecuted due to a lack of evidence, because in the state of Arizona, evidence in suicides is destroyed after five years.[55][not in citation given]
Title: communism and debt spending never worked, why does obama think they do?
Post by: tallgerman on August 20, 2010, 05:25:19 PM
communism and debt spending never worked, why does obama think they do?
Title: tom leykis shows why marraige has 0 benefit for the man vs being single
Post by: tallgerman on August 20, 2010, 05:26:33 PM
Title: Re: communism and debt spending never worked, why does obama think they do?
Post by: garebear on August 20, 2010, 05:32:29 PM
Always nice to see some fresh ideas on the politics board.
Title: Re: suprise! socialism aka communism never works! lol yeah1
Post by: SAMSON123 on August 20, 2010, 05:54:58 PM
Do you prefer A Global Caliphate imposing Sharia on everyone? 

Is it worst than having PAX AMERICANA imposing dictatorship and societal destruction and demoralization disguised under so called DEMOCRACY?

The topic was Socialism and Democracy and how one IS the other as they both have the same end result....what does Islam have anything to do with this discussion?
Title: Re: communism and debt spending never worked, why does obama think they do?
Post by: Danny on August 20, 2010, 06:28:47 PM
Always nice to see some fresh ideas on the politics board.

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: end all unemployment
Post by: garebear on August 21, 2010, 10:38:45 AM
What the hell is going on with this thread?

It's a different title every comment.
Title: Re: end all unemployment
Post by: Dos Equis on August 21, 2010, 11:34:16 AM
Merged.   :)
Title: Re: end all unemployment
Post by: Montague on August 21, 2010, 11:44:14 AM
You're generous.
Title: Re: end all unemployment
Post by: Dos Equis on August 21, 2010, 11:45:47 AM
 :)
Title: Re: end all unemployment
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on August 21, 2010, 01:58:45 PM
End unemployment?  Getbig would implode overnight.   :o