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Will anything less than grabbing both houses of senate be a loss for republicans?
Anti-dem emotion is at its highest point in what, decades? Imagine that fallout if by some miracle or lots of cheating, the dems don't lose either house.
source:
http://www.democrats.org/ls/livestream.html
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Republicans don't need to win either the House or Senate. They need enough votes in one of the bodies to slow down the runaway spending train (the White House) and position themselves for 2012.
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Republicans don't need to win either the House or Senate. They need enough votes in one of the bodies to slow down the runaway spending train (the White House) and position themselves for 2012.
It would actually be better just to get enough votes to stop Imam Obama and still have democrats with tiny majorities then they can blame democrats for everything as NOTHING will get better under the Muslim Obama.
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Unfortunately ,as Rush just reminded me,Joe Biden is wrong on every issue just about 100% of the time,as he is the dumbest man in the history of the senate and now the dumbest vice president ever,so republicans will win both houses.
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As long as there are enough votes to make Imam Obama. piss be upon him, to be the lamest of ducks ever, i'm coll with it.
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Why would you want Republicans back in power for that matter? Are they any better than the democrats?
Did the deficit not grow by a few trillions under a Republican and Democrat House and a Republican Presidency?
Did Bush not joke that the elites are his "peeps"?
Guys you need to wake up they have you conned to believe in this game of Democrats and Republicans. The politicians on both sides of the aisle are playing for the same team. And you are not part of their team.
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Why would you want Republicans back in power for that matter? Are they any better than the democrats?
Did the deficit not grow by a few trillions under a Republican and Democrat House and a Republican Presidency?
Did Bush not joke that the elites are his "peeps"?
Guys you need to wake up they have you conned to believe in this game of Democrats and Republicans. The politicians on both sides of the aisle are playing for the same team. And you are not part of their team.
For me, it's not so much having Republicans in power as it is checking Obama and Democrats. I don't want either party in control of both Congress and the White House.
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It would actually be better just to get enough votes to stop Imam Obama and still have democrats with tiny majorities then they can blame democrats for everything as NOTHING will get better under the Muslim Obama.
HAHAHAHA @ this.
It would be better if the dems kept the white house, house, and senate, so they could 51-vote your ass on everything like cape/trade and amnesty?
Really??????????????????
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For me, it's not so much having Republicans in power as it is checking Obama and Democrats. I don't want either party in control of both Congress and the White House.
Be it a good or bad thing, the only way we can see improvements is for another body to take power in the house and senate and it the only way to make real absolute changes, be them good or bad is to have the executive and legislature controlled by one single party.
That said, the only way the republicans can bring about good change is largely dependent upon the types of republicans elected.
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Will anything less than grabbing both houses of senate be a loss for republicans?
Anti-dem emotion is at its highest point in what, decades? Imagine that fallout if by some miracle or lots of cheating, the dems don't lose either house.
source:
http://www.democrats.org/ls/livestream.html
if I recall correctly - a recent survey had Repubs with lower approval ratings than both Dems and Obama
don't discount the Repubs ability to crash and burn in the last few weeks going into the election
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Be it a good or bad thing, the only way we can see improvements is for another body to take power in the house and senate and it the only way to make real absolute changes, be them good or bad is to have the executive and legislature controlled by one single party.
That said, the only way the republicans can bring about good change is largely dependent upon the types of republicans elected.
I hear you, and I guess it depends on which Republicans get elected, but I don't have enough trust in politicians of either party to be comfortable with total control of DC.
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I hear you, and I guess it depends on which Republicans get elected, but I don't have enough trust in politicians of either party to be comfortable with total control of DC.
I understand your concern but it's very easy to get stuck in a standoff and have a giant stalemate with two parties splitting control. When the Republicans took control of the legislative under Clinton there was some progress made but that was only because Clinton was willing to work with them, Obama has shown that he in no way intends to work with them.
It really seems to me at this point and time the only way anything will get done be it good or bad is with absolute party control by one side or the other.
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I have no illusion that the GOP will solve or do anything if they win in November. But anything in my mind to cock block Barry from his insane agenda is worth pursuing.
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I understand your concern but it's very easy to get stuck in a standoff and have a giant stalemate with two parties splitting control. When the Republicans took control of the legislative under Clinton there was some progress made but that was only because Clinton was willing to work with them, Obama has shown that he in no way intends to work with them.
It really seems to me at this point and time the only way anything will get done be it good or bad is with absolute party control by one side or the other.
Obama doesn't work with Republicans because he doesn't have to.
I think we're seeing right now exactly how the bad things get done with the control of one party. :-\
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Obama doesn't work with Republicans because he doesn't have to.
I think we're seeing right now exactly how the bad things get done with the control of one party. :-\
True, but to overturn the insanity of policies we have now, it will only happen with control by republicans. Now in which direction those changes are made will be determined again by the republicans elected. I'd be happy to vote democrats in if they weren't progressive, that is the real issue.
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True, but to overturn the insanity of policies we have now, it will only happen with control by republicans. Now in which direction those changes are made will be determined again by the republicans elected. I'd be happy to vote democrats in if they weren't progressive, that is the real issue.
That's probably true when it comes to things like healthcare, etc. Will be impossible to reverse if Republicans don't control Congress.
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I think if they win the house and senate they can defund it and force Barry to veto it.
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healthcare is permanent, guys.
NO WAY any sensible repub will run on that platform.
Just like those who were against Medicare and Social security... it's political suicide to try to revoke those now. Remember Angle losing 50% of her support right after she annouced she'd like to phase out social security? Old people didn't like that.... and poor moderate voters will never vote for a candidate that promises to end some of those healthcare benefits (remember there are ---some--- good things in the healthcare bill)
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healthcare is permanent, guys.
NO WAY any sensible repub will run on that platform.
Just like those who were against Medicare and Social security... it's political suicide to try to revoke those now. Remember Angle losing 50% of her support right after she annouced she'd like to phase out social security? Old people didn't like that.... and poor moderate voters will never vote for a candidate that promises to end some of those healthcare benefits (remember there are ---some--- good things in the healthcare bill)
A strong majority of Americans want health care repealed, a strong majority of Americans don't want social security phased out...big difference.
Right now saying you'll vote to repeal health care is a huge plus. More importantly, "poor moderate voters"...to begin, there's nothing moderate about health care, second, most people that are in the "Poor Moderate" class don't vote, especially in mid-terms and not enough in the first place to matter that much.
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A strong majority of Americans want health care repealed, a strong majority of Americans don't want social security phased out...big difference.
Right now saying you'll vote to repeal health care is a huge plus. More importantly, "poor moderate voters"...to begin, there's nothing moderate about health care, second, most people that are in the "Poor Moderate" class don't vote, especially in mid-terms and not enough in the first place to matter that much.
source?
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source?
Rasmussen: Aug 23, 2010
Americans who want health care repealed 56%
Americans who oppose repeal 40%
Americans who think health care will be good for the country 36%
"Seventy-six percent (76%) of Mainstream voters favor repeal of the health care law. Eighty-seven percent (87%) of the Political Class oppose repeal."
"Last week, support for repeal among all voters hit 60%, the highest level in over a month, but those favoring repeal has ranged from 52% to 63% since the health care law was passed by Congress in March. Opposition to the law remains as high since its passage as it was in the months before the measure became law."
"Interestingly, there is no difference of opinion on this question between voters with health insurance and those without."
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law
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Rasmussen: Aug 23, 2010
Americans who want health care repealed 56%
Americans who oppose repeal 40%
Americans who think health care will be good for the country 36%
"Seventy-six percent (76%) of Mainstream voters favor repeal of the health care law. Eighty-seven percent (87%) of the Political Class oppose repeal."
"Last week, support for repeal among all voters hit 60%, the highest level in over a month, but those favoring repeal has ranged from 52% to 63% since the health care law was passed by Congress in March. Opposition to the law remains as high since its passage as it was in the months before the measure became law."
"Interestingly, there is no difference of opinion on this question between voters with health insurance and those without."
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law
LMAO you just crushed straw...
I think he is from pelosi's district...
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Why would you want Republicans back in power for that matter? Are they any better than the democrats?
Did the deficit not grow by a few trillions under a Republican and Democrat House and a Republican Presidency?
Did Bush not joke that the elites are his "peeps"?
Guys you need to wake up they have you conned to believe in this game of Democrats and Republicans. The politicians on both sides of the aisle are playing for the same team. And you are not part of their team.
Ofcourse the Republicans are better!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And people who say they are the same are a part of the problem and not a part of the solution. The deficit did grow under Republicans in the 21st century, but it was still within reasonable numbers. It has grown rediculously more under Obama. And they are not playing for the same team. Though it is true that a lot of them dont consider us a part of either of thier teams. Yes, when it comes to corruption issues they are more equal, but when it comes to policy Republicans are much better - albiet far from ideal and overall disappointing.
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healthcare is permanent, guys.
NO WAY any sensible repub will run on that platform.
Just like those who were against Medicare and Social security... it's political suicide to try to revoke those now. Remember Angle losing 50% of her support right after she annouced she'd like to phase out social security? Old people didn't like that.... and poor moderate voters will never vote for a candidate that promises to end some of those healthcare benefits (remember there are ---some--- good things in the healthcare bill)
There is NOTHING good in the health care bill which is why more people want it repealed today then ever before.NO ONE wants this other then poor black idiot Obama supporters.
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There is NOTHING good in the health care bill
As of this year insurance companies will be unable to cancel policies because of sickness, deny children with pre-existing conditions, or place lifetime monetary limits on policies.
You're against this, BILLY?
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As of this year insurance companies will be unable to cancel policies because of sickness, deny children with pre-existing conditions, or place lifetime monetary limits on policies.
You're against this, BILLY?
Yeah and guess who 240? The insane price hikes are forcing even more people to not have insurance.
ObamaCare is a complete disgrace on so many levels its not even funny.
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Yeah and guess who 240? The insane price hikes are forcing even more people to not have insurance.
ObamaCare is a complete disgrace on so many levels its not even funny.
I didn't defend obamacare which, as you may recall, I was against.
BILLY said there was NOTHING good about this bill. I think it is good we can't deny children with pre-existing conditions. We're different like that.
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I didn't defend obamacare which, as you may recall, I was against.
BILLY said there was NOTHING good about this bill. I think it is good we can't deny children with pre-existing conditions. We're different like that.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Im against it.Insurance companies are there to make a profit.If you insure those with pre-existing conditions,where is the ability to make a profit?The last thing in the world I want is the filthy,dirty,lying government to dictate to companies what they can do or what policies to follow.
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Im against it.Insurance companies are there to make a profit.If you insure those with pre-existing conditions,where is the ability to make a profit?The last thing in the world I want is the filthy,dirty,lying government to dictate to companies what they can do or what policies to follow.
Hey, we're gonna disagree on this point. it's not about what you/me think. It's about what majority of voters want, really.
Anyway, there were threads on getbig about certain repubs taking credit for SOME of the parts of the healthcare bill - some parts of it that most voters would consider to be good.
Some seniors are getting refund checks this year too - I highly doubt candidates Romney and Palin will stand in front of 50 million elderly people and tell them "no check next year next year, granny!"
They'll say "I'll do everything I can, as President, to correct things" but they won't say repeal. besides, frontrunner Romney starts his 25-state tour today... he's running... and he WROTE obamacare 5 years before obama did, in his own state. Methinks romney is gonna downplay that issue ;)
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Hey, we're gonna disagree on this point. it's not about what you/me think. It's about what majority of voters want, really.
Anyway, there were threads on getbig about certain repubs taking credit for SOME of the parts of the healthcare bill - some parts of it that most voters would consider to be good.
Some seniors are getting refund checks this year too - I highly doubt candidates Romney and Palin will stand in front of 50 million elderly people and tell them "no check next year next year, granny!"
They'll say "I'll do everything I can, as President, to correct things" but they won't say repeal. besides, frontrunner Romney starts his 25-state tour today... he's running... and he WROTE obamacare 5 years before obama did, in his own state. Methinks romney is gonna downplay that issue ;)
The vast majority of the country want it repealed.What dont you understand about that?Just like the overwhelming majority dont want the mosque,dont want the bailout of GM ,just like they dont want gay marriage.This nation is conservative which is why the lying Obama ran as a conservative not a liberal.Obama and the democrats rule against the will of the nation,I cant help it if republicans like Romney are gutless and wont stand up for the people.
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Why would you want Republicans back in power for that matter? Are they any better than the democrats?
Did the deficit not grow by a few trillions under a Republican and Democrat House and a Republican Presidency?
Did Bush not joke that the elites are his "peeps"?
Guys you need to wake up they have you conned to believe in this game of Democrats and Republicans. The politicians on both sides of the aisle are playing for the same team. And you are not part of their team.
And, the alternative is what, keep Obama and his goofies in charge and watch the death of America, right before our eyes?
Don't bother crying about a third party; it ain't happening....at least not within the next two-and-a-half months.
At the very least (since Obama likes using car metaphors), think of it as your being stuck on the side of the highway with a flat, and the GOP is the temporary tire.
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Rasmussen: Aug 23, 2010
Americans who want health care repealed 56%
Americans who oppose repeal 40%
Americans who think health care will be good for the country 36%
"Seventy-six percent (76%) of Mainstream voters favor repeal of the health care law. Eighty-seven percent (87%) of the Political Class oppose repeal."
"Last week, support for repeal among all voters hit 60%, the highest level in over a month, but those favoring repeal has ranged from 52% to 63% since the health care law was passed by Congress in March. Opposition to the law remains as high since its passage as it was in the months before the measure became law."
"Interestingly, there is no difference of opinion on this question between voters with health insurance and those without."
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law
why did you skip the sub headline which says: 56% Favor Repeal of Health Care Law; 54% Say Law Is Bad for Country
there was also this sentence
"Republicans and voters not affiliated with either party continue to strongly favor repeal and to believe that the health care measure will be bad for the country. Democrats just as solidly oppose repeal and think the law will be good for America"
based on the last two elections one could easily argue that there are more Democrats in this country than Repuclicans and Independents
btw - what the heck is a "mainstream voter" and what is the "political class"
That same Rasmussen poll links to another poll where they describe "political class" and "mainstream voter" with this headline:
67% of Political Class Say U.S. Heading in Right Direction, 84% of Mainstream Disagrees
I've already said many times that I think the health care reform we got was a poor compromise but the way you'll be able to tell how people feel about it is how the Dems and Republicans use it in their campaigns. If it's a bad thing you would expect that Dems won't mention it and certainly wont' promote it as a good thing. I suspect they will run on it so if this survey of " a thousand likely voters" is accurate then it will be a bad move and only help the Repubs. If those "thousand likely voters" somehow dont' give an accurate reprentation of the ~ 150 million actual voters then we'll know that too
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The vast majority of the country want it repealed.What dont you understand about that?
You can't show me a poll where the vast majority of the country believes "we should repeal the part saying we can't deny children with pre-existing conditions"
There are parts of it that ppl like.
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Why would you want Republicans back in power for that matter? Are they any better than the democrats?
Did the deficit not grow by a few trillions under a Republican and Democrat House and a Republican Presidency?
Did Bush not joke that the elites are his "peeps"?
Guys you need to wake up they have you conned to believe in this game of Democrats and Republicans. The politicians on both sides of the aisle are playing for the same team. And you are not part of their team.
Bro you cant say Bush...his presidency never happened. There are no effects from it..get over it...the slate was wiped clean when Obama took over..
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You can't show me a poll where the vast majority of the country believes "we should repeal the part saying we can't deny children with pre-existing conditions"
There are parts of it that ppl like.
NO ONE has any idea of whats in it.Ask those people who like it if they are looking foreward to paying much much more for their premiums.Ask them if they are looking foreward to losing their insurance as it is now.See if they are willing to give up their insurance so some fucking poor ass fools kids get health care.
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Bro you cant say Bush...his presidency never happened. There are no effects from it..get over it...the slate was wiped clean when Obama took over..
Not true, we are in Bushs' third term,. but worse.
Seriously Mal, how on earth can any thinking person still support this admn?
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Not true, we are in Bushs' third term,. but worse.
Seriously Mal, how on earth can any thinking person still support this admn?
I was just telling the guy that Bush is out...and actually he did a bang up job and Obama Took over a paradise...actually he should be happy to come in after the red carpet Bush laid out...These fools need to get over the whole "Bush was in office like 2 years ago" i mean...bro...there aint no effects from that...wars, economy, etc...this all Obama...
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I was just telling the guy that Bush is out...and actually he did a bang up job and Obama Took over a paradise...actually he should be happy to come in after the red carpet Bush laid out...These fools need to get over the whole "Bush was in office like 2 years ago" i mean...bro...there aint no effects from that...wars, economy, etc...this all Obama...
Coming from someone who takes the Hippocratic Oath and oath to "First, do no harm", I think any reasonable or sensible person realizes that Obama has taken a bad situation and made it worse.
Tell me one area that has gotten remotely better?
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why did you skip the sub headline which says: 56% Favor Repeal of Health Care Law; 54% Say Law Is Bad for Country
there was also this sentence
"Republicans and voters not affiliated with either party continue to strongly favor repeal and to believe that the health care measure will be bad for the country. Democrats just as solidly oppose repeal and think the law will be good for America"
based on the last two elections one could easily argue that there are more Democrats in this country than Repuclicans and Independents
btw - what the heck is a "mainstream voter" and what is the "political class"
Never say never. There is a good chance, given the current political environment, that obamacare gets repealed.
You are correct that there more Americans who identified themselves as Democrats than Republicans. But do you know by what difference? 1 point. 46% to 45%. And with the way things are going, more independents are leaning toward supporting the Republicans. Bad news for Democrats.
Gallup survey for January to March of this year:
"The advantage in public support the Democratic Party built up during the latter part of the Bush administration and the early part of the Obama administration has all but disappeared. During the first quarter of 2010, 46% of Americans identified as Democrats or leaned Democratic, while 45% identified as or leaned Republican.
The latest results, based on aggregated data from Gallup polls conducted from January to March of this year, show the closest party division since the first quarter of 2005, when the parties were tied at 46%. Democrats enjoyed double-digit advantages in party support in 11 of 12 quarters from the second quarter of 2006 to the first quarter of 2009.
By the end of last year, the Democratic advantage had shrunk to five points (47% to 42%), and it narrowed further in the most recent quarter."
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Coming from someone who takes the Hippocratic Oath and oath to "First, do no harm", I think any reasonable or sensible person realizes that Obama has taken a bad situation and made it worse.
Tell me one area that has gotten remotely better?
Im with you..i mean...he himself did call the swat team on Grandmothers
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Im with you..i mean...he himself did call the swat team on Grandmothers
His security detail did. and what does that have to do with the economy getting far worse, the Dem run congress a complete joke, housing plummeting, tax revenue plummeting, UE rising and getting worse?, Iran moving forward with nukes without a word from Obama, etc etc ? ? ? ?
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NO ONE has any idea of whats in it.Ask those people who like it if they are looking foreward to paying much much more for their premiums.Ask them if they are looking foreward to losing their insurance as it is now.See if they are willing to give up their insurance so some fucking poor ass fools kids get health care.
Exactly.
Wait until premiums start increasing and get out of hand. Most likely people will blame insurance companies and call them greedy. But, if government starts forcing insurance companies to take all comers. Their risk is going to increase and premiums have to reflect their exposure. There will be further jobs that will be lost because it will become too expensive for companies to pay additional premiums for each employee. Hiring will slow down as companies seek ways to reduce costs, which may include forcing employees to pay even more on their contributions and co-payments.
People are good samaritans until it hits their wallets hard.
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Im with you..i mean...he himself did call the swat team on Grandmothers
EVERYTHING Imam Obama has touched has gotten MUCH worse.The economy,Afghanastan,health care,the environment,sadly though thats his goal,the total destruction of the country to teach whitey a lesson.
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Exactly.
Wait until premiums start increasing and get out of hand. Most likely people will blame insurance companies and call them greedy. But, if government starts forcing insurance companies to take all comers. Their risk is going to increase and premiums have to reflect their exposure. There will be further jobs that will be lost because it will become too expensive for companies to pay additional premiums for each employee. Hiring will slow down as companies seek ways to reduce costs, which may include forcing employees to pay even more on their contributions and co-payments.
People are good samaritans until it hits their wallets hard.
They already are skyrocketing due to Obamacare. Just ask around.
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why did you skip the sub headline which says: 56% Favor Repeal of Health Care Law; 54% Say Law Is Bad for Country
there was also this sentence
"Republicans and voters not affiliated with either party continue to strongly favor repeal and to believe that the health care measure will be bad for the country. Democrats just as solidly oppose repeal and think the law will be good for America"
based on the last two elections one could easily argue that there are more Democrats in this country than Repuclicans and Independents
btw - what the heck is a "mainstream voter" and what is the "political class"
That same Rasmussen poll links to another poll where they describe "political class" and "mainstream voter" with this headline:
67% of Political Class Say U.S. Heading in Right Direction, 84% of Mainstream Disagrees
I've already said many times that I think the health care reform we got was a poor compromise but the way you'll be able to tell how people feel about it is how the Dems and Republicans use it in their campaigns. If it's a bad thing you would expect that Dems won't mention it and certainly wont' promote it as a good thing. I suspect they will run on it so if this survey of " a thousand likely voters" is accurate then it will be a bad move and only help the Repubs. If those "thousand likely voters" somehow dont' give an accurate reprentation of the ~ 150 million actual voters then we'll know that too
The "Political Class" is people who are politicians, congressmen, senators, those who work for them, etc. The "mainstream voter" these are people not employed by the federal government, those who work in the private sector and who actually vote.
As for there being more democrats than republicans, I doubt that simply because only 20% of the voting population identifies themselves as liberal.
As for not posting the sub-headline in my original post, I'm not sure why you think that helps your case?
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The "Political Class" is people who are politicians, congressmen, senators, those who work for them, etc. The "mainstream voter" these are people not employed by the federal government, those who work in the private sector and who actually vote.
As for there being more democrats than republicans, I doubt that simply because only 20% of the voting population identifies themselves as liberal.
As for not posting the sub-headline in my original post, I'm not sure why you think that helps your case?
I asked you for a source of your statement and you provided it
I asked basically asked why you cherry picked a finding out of the article and ignored the broad conclusion (which was not quite as overwhelming as the portion you chose)
I don't deny that many people don't like the current healthcare legislation (which I think in large part is due to spin and misinformation by opponents). Personally I think it's watered down and there are things I don't like about it.
I do think it's a step in the right direction and I think there are many people in this country who agree (somehwere btw 44% to 46% based on the sub headline of the article you posted)
I think we'll see Dems run on the passing of healthcare legislation and I think it will be successful for them
I could be wrong
time will tell
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I asked you for a source of your statement and you provided it
I asked basically asked why you cherry picked a finding out of the article and ignored the broad conclusion (which was not quite as overwhelming as the portion you chose)
I don't deny that many people don't like the current healthcare legislation (which I think in large part is due to spin and misinformation by opponents). Personally I think it's watered down and there are things I don't like about it.
I do think it's a step in the right direction and I think there are many people in this country who agree (somehwere btw 44% to 46% based on the sub headline of the article you posted)
I think we'll see Dems run on the passing of healthcare legislation and I think it will be successful for them
I could be wrong
time will tell
This year?Or in future years.This year they are going to get slaughtered.In future years this health care bill will go down as the single most destructive piece of legislation ever passed and it will be despised forevor.It is the end of health care as we know it.
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This year?Or in future years.This year they are going to get slaughtered.In future years this health care bill will go down as the single most destructive piece of legislation ever passed and it will be despised forevor.It is the end of health care as we know it.
hyperbole like a 13 year old school girl
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I asked you for a source of your statement and you provided it
I asked basically asked why you cherry picked a finding out of the article and ignored the broad conclusion (which was not quite as overwhelming as the portion you chose)
I don't deny that many people don't like the current healthcare legislation (which I think in large part is due to spin and misinformation by opponents). Personally I think it's watered down and there are things I don't like about it.
I do think it's a step in the right direction and I think there are many people in this country who agree (somehwere btw 44% to 46% based on the sub headline of the article you posted)
I think we'll see Dems run on the passing of healthcare legislation and I think it will be successful for them
I could be wrong
time will tell
ha ha ha ha. Thanks for the laugh.
Dems are running from ObamaCare like villagers from a hurricane.
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I asked you for a source of your statement and you provided it
I asked basically asked why you cherry picked a finding out of the article and ignored the broad conclusion (which was not quite as overwhelming as the portion you chose)
I don't deny that many people don't like the current healthcare legislation (which I think in large part is due to spin and misinformation by opponents). Personally I think it's watered down and there are things I don't like about it.
I do think it's a step in the right direction and I think there are many people in this country who agree (somehwere btw 44% to 46% based on the sub headline of the article you posted)
I think we'll see Dems run on the passing of healthcare legislation and I think it will be successful for them
I could be wrong
time will tell
I thought I was pretty straightforward with my original post, wasn't trying to pick and choose which parts to ignore.
Here are the things from that article/poll that I think matter the most, the statistics that matter the most:
*"those favoring repeal has ranged from 52% to 63% since the health care law was passed by Congress in March." Obviously each time you take this poll the numbers will vary but they've consistently been above 50% to almost 2/3 the entire time.
*What matters most, the numbers that show what the voting class thinks. Yes, all Americans matter but if you don't vote I'm sorry, I really don't care what you think and if you don't vote, your opinion carries very little weight. All-in-all, it's the voting class, that's the number that matters, that's the true value of an opinion.