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Title: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: ag2 on September 07, 2010, 08:23:32 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/07/florida.quran.burning/index.html?hpt=T2


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Used to be a country that fought against discrimination, now it is just a sad shell of it's former glory, I wonder how the American born US soldiers who are fighting for their country feeel about this.  America I pity you  :'(
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: Stark on September 07, 2010, 08:24:22 AM

Why?
because one man wants to burn a fucking book?
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: Tito24 on September 07, 2010, 08:25:38 AM
he can burn his own books at the same pile.
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 07, 2010, 08:28:03 AM
same shit
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: HTexan on September 07, 2010, 08:29:40 AM
Didn't read the article but dAmn this is america. You can burn the flag if you want too.
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: mass243 on September 07, 2010, 08:30:53 AM
That is what happens when you let communists rumble.

You made the choice - now we are all suffering!

Shrinking America has become a laughing stock all over the world; you are under a huge pile of debt, you can't afford wars anymore, you want to grow your public sector like true communists... list goes on and on....

Get rid of those communists before they ruin USA permanently!
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: Stark on September 07, 2010, 08:32:58 AM
Didn't read the article but dAmn this is america. You can burn the flag if you want too.

Whats the problem burning the flag last time I checked soldiers were dying for their buddies and not for a piece of cloth.
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: Fury on September 07, 2010, 08:34:49 AM
So what? If that's what they want to do then so be it. Why is it that Muslims are allowed to call for the mass murder of Christians and Jews whenever they feel like it but the second a Westerner goes so far as to *gasp* burn some Korans, it's the end of the world?

But let's see if I understand this. Christians/Westerners burn Korans to protest. Muslims blow shit up and chop heads off. I don't see the problem.
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: George Whorewell on September 07, 2010, 08:38:25 AM
Yet you live in Canada, a country that specifically outlaws freedom of speech, arrests people for political commentary and bends over backward to accomadate Islamic terrorists that refuse to assimiliate with your country's customs. TRUTH isn't even a defense to defamation in Canada. 

I know that freedom is a scary American idea. Stick to drinking your shitty Molson ice and watching Grizzly Adams reruns.
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: ag2 on September 07, 2010, 08:40:22 AM
So what? If that's what they want to do then so be it. Why is it that Muslims are allowed to call for the mass murder of Christians and Jews whenever they feel like it but the second a Westerner goes so far as to *gasp* burn some Korans, it's the end of the world?

But let's see if I understand this. Christians/Westerners burn Korans to protest. Muslims blow shit up and chop heads off. I don't see the problem.

As usual you miss the point, which is that the west is supposed to be civilized and above such petty shit.  Can you honestly say that Christians/Americans/westerners have never murdered poeple? What about Vietnam? How many blacks were strung up by trees in the south or dragged behind trucks? How about the civillian bombing during ww2?  The crusades?

There are assholes in every religion, I just expected better than my neighbours from the south.  Also, I am not American but if I saw someone burning the American flag I would be offended because a country's flag is a symbol of their freedom, I would even try to stop it if I could and I would hope that an American would do the same if someone was burning the Canadian flag.
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: George Whorewell on September 07, 2010, 08:41:44 AM
Nobody would care if someone burned a Canadian flag and hence, nobody would burn a Canadian flag in the first place because Canada is irrelevant.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: Master Blaster on September 07, 2010, 08:41:57 AM
burning a bible = no one gives a fuck

burning koran = HATE CRIME!!!!!!

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Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: Fury on September 07, 2010, 08:43:18 AM
As usual you miss the point, which is that the west is supposed to be civilized and above such petty shit.  Can you honestly say that Christians/Americans/westerners have never murdered poeple? What about Vietnam? How many blacks were strung up by trees in the south or dragged behind trucks? How about the civillian bombing during ww2?  The crusades?

There are assholes in every religion, I just expected better than my neighbours from the south.  Also, I am not American but if I saw someone burning the American flag I would be offended because a country's flag is a symbol of their freedom, I would even try to stop it if I could and I would hope that an American would do the same if someone was burning the Canadian flag.

Give me a fucking break. This "civilized" and "above petty shit" concept is why we're getting walked all over. I do love your revisionist history. People who bring up the crusades while constantly ignoring the fact that they only came about after 100 years of Muslims conquering, pillaging, raping and committing mass murder of Christians across North Africa and the Middle East. But you stay on your high horse!  ::)

burning a bible = no one gives a fuck

burning koran = HATE CRIME!!!!!!

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Exactly.

I liken this to the South Park episode about Mohammed that got censored a few months ago. South Park spent a decade bashing Christians and Jews in every episode without ever getting censored. Then the second they DARE make an episode about Mohammed, well shit, the censors come out and the entire episode gets cut into pieces by the PC crowd. And the best part is that they didn't even bother to edit out the Buddha blowing coke. Why is that? Probably because Buddhists aren't likely to start blowing everyone up and chopping heads off every time you criticize them.  ::)
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: ag2 on September 07, 2010, 08:44:25 AM
Yet you live in Canada, a country that specifically outlaws freedom of speech, arrests people for political commentary and bends over backward to accomadate Islamic terrorists that refuse to assimiliate with your country's customs. TRUTH isn't even a defense to defamation in Canada. 

I know that freedom is a scary American idea. Stick to drinking your shitty Molson ice and watching Grizzly Adams reruns.

Clearly you don't know much about Canada, We have a charter of human rights that gives everyone freedom to practice religion, we don't arrrest people for expressing their opinion, hell Anne Coulter did a speaking tour in Canada and even commented that she felt safer in liberal Canada because here people let her discuss her views even if they did not agree.  Also and American saying our beer is shitty ? that's like sookie calling Angelina jolie ugly  ;)
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: ag2 on September 07, 2010, 08:46:28 AM
burning a bible = no one gives a fuck

burning koran = HATE CRIME!!!!!!

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I am not Christian, but if I saw someone discriminating against a Chirstian or burning the bible I would do my best to stop them and would be offended, no one should be discriminated against Christian, muslim or Jew.
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: makaveli25 on September 07, 2010, 08:47:14 AM
Well, we do have this little blurb in the Constitution called the 1st Amendment.

Honestly, this burning is kinda childish but once again it's making the muslims look like intolerant assholes.

They should respond with their weekly US flag burning, or is it daily now?

Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: George Whorewell on September 07, 2010, 08:47:26 AM
Clearly you don't know much about Canada, We have a charter of human rights that gives everyone freedom to practice religion, we don't arrrest people for expressing their opinion, hell Anne Coulter did a speaking tour in Canada and even commented that she felt safer in liberal Canada because here people let her discuss her views even if they did not agree.  Also and American saying our beer is shitty ? that's like sookie calling Angelina jolie ugly  ;)

You mean Snookie?

Your charter of human rights isn't worth the piece of paper it was printed on.

You should bone up on what the laws of your country actually say.

Anne Coulter was almost arrested in Canada, and in fact wasn't she prevented from speaking at a University up there?

Also, Molson is disgusting.  
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 07, 2010, 08:47:50 AM
burning a bible = no one gives a fuck

burning koran = HATE CRIME!!!!!!

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Both are hate crimes
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: ag2 on September 07, 2010, 08:49:16 AM
Nobody would care if someone burned a Canadian flag and hence, nobody would burn a Canadian flag in the first place because Canada is irrelevant.

Hope this helps.

I would like you to tell some of the US soldiers fighting along side their Cdn brothers in Afghanistan if canada is irrelevant and see if you don't get punched in your ignorant face for that, US and Cd. soldiers have shed blood aside by side in that country since 2002.
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: Fury on September 07, 2010, 08:51:15 AM
Well, we do have this little blurb in the Constitution called the 1st Amendment.

Honestly, this burning is kinda childish but once again it's making the muslims look like intolerant assholes.

They should respond with their weekly US flag burning, or is it daily now?



They rioted over the weekend about it. Now they're threatening terrorist attacks as reprisal for it.

This is a perfect example of the differences between the western and Muslim world. The West burns some books and the Muslims want to burn bodies.

I am not Christian, but if I saw someone discriminating against a Chirstian or burning the bible I would do my best to stop them and would be offended, no one should be discriminated against Christian, muslim or Jew.

Where is your outrage over the growing persecution of non-Muslims in Muslim countries? Where are your cries about hate-speech with regards to the Australian cleric who called for Geert Wilders beheading last week? Is that not hate-speech?

What's worse? Burning some books or calling for a man's beheading? That's where we should be directing our attention, not at some silly book burning that's in bad taste. And for what it's worth, most people in this country have denounced this book burning as it will do more harm than good.
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: ag2 on September 07, 2010, 08:51:15 AM
You mean Snookie?

Your charter of human rights isn't worth the piece of paper it was printed on.

You should bone up on what the laws of your country actually say.

Anne Coulter was almost arrested in Canada, and in fact wasn't she prevented from speaking at a University up there?

Also, Molson is disgusting. 

Now you are insulting our national treasure, say what you want about our charter of rights but don'tt you dare insult molson   ;D
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: Tito24 on September 07, 2010, 08:54:04 AM
The United States reaps the thorns its rulers have planted in the world.
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: ag2 on September 07, 2010, 08:54:57 AM
They rioted over the weekend about it. Now they're threatening terrorist attacks as reprisal for it.

This is a perfect example of the differences between the western and Muslim world. The West burns some books and the Muslims want to burn bodies.

Where's your outrage over the growing persecution of non-Muslims in Muslim countries? Where's your cries about hate-speech with regards to the Australian cleric who called for Geert Wilders beheading last week? Is that not hate-speech?  

Of course I am pissed about that, I am a non muslim you know and find their extremist views disgusting I posted stuff about that on a political form and was called an American sympathizer, Like I said I am against all discrimination.
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: George Whorewell on September 07, 2010, 08:55:04 AM
Lannie Barbie is your only national treasure.
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: Tito24 on September 07, 2010, 08:57:46 AM
klaus barbie
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 07, 2010, 09:18:47 AM
It seems like a small church wants some publicity and is willing to put soldiers at risk to achieve it. How brave they are to gather in Florida and in spite of a high ranking military official warning them it could cause undo harm to american soldiers abroad, will go ahead with their spiteful protest.
I compare it to a bunch of teenagers in an area of safety,  throwing rocks at the lions in the zoo exhibit while a zookeeper is in with the lions..  Just sayin...
Title: Re: Is this what America has come to?
Post by: George Whorewell on September 07, 2010, 10:20:08 AM
Agnostic, I disagree with your response.

These hypersensitive baboons use any and every excuse to get riled up and murder people who don't agree with them. I don't think our troops are any more at risk after this than after anything else done that "offends" people that are beyond stupid and backward.

How is this stunt any more likely to put our troops at risk than the Wikileaks disaster, the South Park controversy, the Israeli peace talks, the controversy over the ground zero mosque, the fury sparked by the danish cartoon of Mohammad and any other number of things that have gone on lately?

These animals only understand force and might. I don't think that some middle of nowhere church holding a book burning does anything to help or hurt America in the long run. However,  the idea of caving to the pressure of what these pieces of shit might do, makes me support it all the more. Half of the problems we experience with "Islam" today stems from us bending over backwards not to offend them. It makes us look weak and cowardly especially since we don't afford the same level of reverence to any other religion. We do it because we are afraid of them-- point blank. And this fact only makes them bolder in their demands and violent actions against us. They figure that the more they complain and kill people, the more afraid the West will be. The sad part is that they are right. But if we took a hard stance and stopped flushing our ideals down the toilet for these pieces of Camel dreck they would know what the score was and that they could not intimidate or manipulate us into censorship.