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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Religious Debates & Threads => Topic started by: Fury on September 08, 2010, 07:43:53 AM
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No place for democracy and human rights in Islam, says Qom theologian
Imam Mesbah Yazdi, great supporter of Ahmadinejad, makes the claim. For him, sexual and moral deviants like Sakineh should be punished and suppressed. Obeying Ahmadinejad is like obeying God. Pro-reform students are beaten, pro-reform professors are fired, all for being against Iran’s rulers. Journalists are accused of being “mohareb”, enemies of God.
Tehran (AsiaNews) – As the world mobilises against the stoning of Sakineh, a 43-year-old woman convicted for adultery and killing her husband, Iranian police continue to threaten and arrest journalists and human rights lawyers. Dozens of university professors are fired and pro-reform students are beaten. The reason is simple. “Democracy, freedom, and human rights have no place” in Islam, said Mesbah Yazdi, who heads Shia Taliban, in a speech reprinted in Rooz, an online Iranian news website.
Speaking before members of paramilitary groups, soldiers and his followers, the cleric said that Iran “is not a place to back down for cultural reasons against people who promote corruption.”
In a veiled reference to Sakineh and others, he added, “sexual or moral deviants or promoters of any other kind of corruption must be suppressed.”
Mesbah Yadzi is a member of the Association of Teachers of Qom Theological Centre (Jame Modaresin Hoze Elmie Qom) and a great supporter of Ahmadinejad. In fact, “When the president received the supreme leader’s confirmation, obeying him is like obeying God,” he said.
A similar extremist vision explains recent events in Iran, where dozens of students, followers of pro-reform Ayatollah Dastgheib, who was against to Ahmadinejad’s re-election, were beaten in Shiraz’s Qoba Mosque.
Pro-democracy activists are also concerned about the firing of 40 professors from Tehran University since March. The activists have slammed the professors’ removal, calling it a case of “political cleansing” of the faculties that led the Green Wave movement that came out against the results in last year’s presidential election. Indeed, Science Minister Kamran Daneshjoo said repeatedly that the universities would not tolerate professors who are not “in tune with the Islamic Republic regime.”
For Mesbah Yazdi, anyone who opposes the Islamic Republic of Iran and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is in fact an “enemy of God” (Mohareb).
Human rights activist Shiva Nazar Ahari (pictured), who is the editor of the Committee of Human Rights Reporters website, has recently found out what that means. Arrested on 14 July 2009, a month after Ahmadinejad’s re-election, she was released on bail on 23 September of the same year. Re-arrested on 20 December and charged with a “mohareb”, a very serious crime in Iran, she is still waiting to go to a trial, expected very soon.
Badrolssadat Mofidi, secretary general of the Iranian Journalists Association, is another prominent figure accused of being a “mohareb”. He was recently sentenced to six years in prison and five years without the right to work as a journalist.
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/No-place-for-democracy-and-human-rights-in-Islam,-says-Qom-theologian-19404.html
Gee, that's a shocker. Let's keep listening to the leftists who tell us that Islam is compatible with western values. Meanwhile, the authorities of Islam continue to say otherwise. Wonder who we should believe? ::)
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...the cleric said that Iran “is not a place to back down for cultural reasons against people who promote corruption.”
Kinda sounds like Jags argument against FoxNews, haha.
Oh wait...
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I think Iran should be put in charge of the human rights council at the UN.
GW Bush is much worse than these guys. Without his illegal wars, Iran would be a peaceful place that accepted individual liberty and freedom.
The CIA created radical Islam so the Neo Cons could control the oil and fake the moon landing.
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Anyone who has spent anytime around these fuckheads knows what they are all about, its the PC assclowns that need to get a clue.
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Anyone who has spent anytime around these fuckheads knows what they are all about, its the PC assclowns that need to get a clue.
How much time have you spent with "these fuckheads" on a personal level? Not trying to be a smartass, I'm just curious too know the depth of your personal interaction.
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Enough to know that you don't show any signs of weakness, they may not like you but they respect strenght
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Enough to know that you don't show any signs of weakness, they may not like you but they respect strenght
Just as I thought. You've never known a Muslim anymore more than what you've seen on TV and you paint them all with one brush. Youre talking out your ass just like a lot of other guys on this board when it comes to the personal beliefs of some Muslims when they've NEVER even known one on a person level.
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Just as I thought. You've never known a Muslim anymore more than what you've seen on TV and you paint them all with one brush. Youre talking out your ass just like a lot of other guys on this board when it comes to the personal beliefs of some Muslims when they've NEVER even known one on a person level.
Believe what you want, doesn't matter to me. but don't pretend you have some extensive knowledge of me.
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How much time have you spent with "these fuckheads" on a personal level? Not trying to be a smartass, I'm just curious too know the depth of your personal interaction.
Does the guy at the gas station count where I get beers late night?
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Just as I thought. You've never known a Muslim anymore more than what you've seen on TV and you paint them all with one brush. Youre talking out your ass just like a lot of other guys on this board when it comes to the personal beliefs of some Muslims when they've NEVER even known one on a person level.
How much time have you spent with them, stud? You talk a big game for someone whose posts are always completely devoid of facts and based solely on your interactions with the one Muslim you know. Just look at any of your posts on this topic. They contain nothing but personal attacks on the people whose posts you're responding to. You never actually address any of the points they're making.
Your posts are boring and watching you try to bait everyone into making genocidal comments is amusing. Funny how that hasn't worked out in your favor. ::)
Thanks for playing.
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Believe what you want, doesn't matter to me. but don't pretend you have some extensive knowledge of me.
Yeah, ok. I bet you knew a lot, especially after you flexed "your strength", right bro? lol ::)
After reading your posts about the Constitution and such I know your way more intelligent than this. Kinda disappointing.
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Yeah, ok. I bet you knew a lot, especially after you flexed "your strength", right bro? lol ::)
After reading your posts about the Constitution and such I know your way more intelligent than this. Kinda disappointing.
I'll bet any amount of money that Kazan knows much more about this topic than you do. You are yet another brain-dead idiot in a long line of them.
Keep trying to shoot the messenger, though. It's really working out well for you.
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How much time have you spent with them, stud? You talk a big game for someone whose posts are always completely devoid of facts and based solely on your interactions with the one Muslim you know. Just look at any of your posts on this topic. They contain nothing but personal attacks on the people whose posts you're responding to. You never actually address any of the points they're making.
Your posts are boring and watching you try to bait everyone into making genocidal comments is amusing. Funny how that hasn't worked out in your favor. ::)
Thanks for playing. Now fuck off.
Eat my shit you miserable cu_nt. 99% of your posts are full of ::), a sure sign of someone who is living a completly cynical and depressing life. I can't reason with a sad douchbag like you, so I wont even try. Now why dont you send the other braindead moron and your faggoty friend, (Benny) another personal invite here and you two jakckasses can teach us all something about the booming economy.
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Not to divert - but Benny is a complete idiot considering he called for a total collapse in gold a few months ago.
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Not to divert - but Benny is a complete idiot considering he called for a total collapse in gold a few months ago.
BF was Benny's butt buddy months ago when I even suggested the economy would continue to head into the crapper and that the markets might head back down. I was called anti American and an idiot. You can't reason with people who think they know everything. Not once has the guy shown any humility. Im willing to listen to any point of view but i don't find generalizing a whole society as the enemy to be reasonable.
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i love to see people like that doing an appeal on human rights when they are in a desperate situation and then because of them these rights are totally outbanned ;D
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Yeah, ok. I bet you knew a lot, especially after you flexed "your strength", right bro? lol ::)
After reading your posts about the Constitution and such I know your way more intelligent than this. Kinda disappointing.
First of all you seem to think Islam is simply a religion, got news for you it is much more than that. It is a complete governmental, social, economic, and legal system all rolled up into what you like to call a "religion". I think Hugo mentioned culture in another post, why is it that is a mere 234 America can go from a fledgling republic to the most prosperous nation on earth, but the ME in 1400 years hasn't been able to move past the 6th century? I'll give you a hint its their oppressive "religion". I see no reason for America to allow this cancer to take hold. Some cultures are simply inferior, and their backward ass culture should be opposed at every and all opportunities.
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First of all you seem to think Islam is simply a religion, got news for you it is much more than that. It is a complete governmental, social, economic, and legal system all rolled up into what you like to call a "religion". I think Hugo mentioned culture in another post, why is it that is a mere 234 America can go from a fledgling republic to the most prosperous nation on earth, but the ME in 1400 years hasn't been able to move past the 6th century? I'll give you a hint its their oppressive "religion". I see no reason for America to allow this cancer to take hold. Some cultures are simply inferior, and their backward ass culture should be opposed at every and all opportunities.
It is their oppressive religion. Thank god christians only get religious once a week these days and we moved past the brand of christianity that kept any progress from happening for fear of your life. I'd love to see muslims move to where we are now and us dump christianty. It's not like most christians are serious about it anyway lol...