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Title: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: tallgerman on September 09, 2010, 07:29:30 PM
Either mad Offensive line or allowed to hold.
I dunno.
Just drove down and never got to 2nd down against vikings.
sick
No pressure on Brees at all, and no almost interceptions.
Tons of penaties on vikings in key times to help Saints!
Example 2nd & 13 5 yard penalty on viking lineman, when saints flinched.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=300909018 (http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=300909018)
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: jesusbod on September 09, 2010, 08:12:42 PM
Don't hate.... The Saints offense is a well Oiled Machine... You can tell The Vikes have work to do in all aspects of the game.
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: CT_Muscle on September 09, 2010, 08:14:47 PM
YUP REFS callin way too much of this game
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: myt1 on September 09, 2010, 08:21:02 PM
YUP REFS callin way too much of this game

The Vikes are beating themselves on top of that though.  As much as I love Favre, I have to say that this would be an entirely different ballgame had he attended training camp to develop timing with his receiving corp.  I'm disappointed in him that he didn't want to get revenge and get to work early when the league announced this as the first game.
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: CT_Muscle on September 09, 2010, 08:25:27 PM
The Vikes are beating themselves on top of that though.  As much as I love Favre, I have to say that this would be an entirely different ballgame had he attended training camp to develop timing with his receiving corp.  I'm disappointed in him that he didn't want to get revenge and get to work early when the league announced this as the first game.

cant disagree, 81 looks great tho
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on September 09, 2010, 08:25:49 PM
The Vikes are beating themselves on top of that though.  As much as I love Favre, I have to say that this would be an entirely different ballgame had he attended training camp to develop timing with his receiving corp.  I'm disappointed in him that he didn't want to get revenge and get to work early when the league announced this as the first game.


i was gonna say that..............i mean, i agree the NFL is corrupt, adn basically chose to give new orleans a superbowl............... ..but if brett farve didnt act like a needy baby and show up literally a few days before the season started......perhaps the offense might be a more cohesive unit
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: K-1 on September 09, 2010, 08:26:17 PM
game should have been a blowout imo.

You viking fans are getting annoying with all the excuses. Good lord.
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: myt1 on September 09, 2010, 08:44:00 PM
game should have been a blowout imo.

You viking fans are getting annoying with all the excuses. Good lord.

You're right the Vikes shoulda blown them out.  Played like shit (for them) on D and held the Saints to 300 yards.  Considering they probably wanted to hold off a little since they assume they will play them again for a super bowl trip, and that they had NO TIMING on offense the Saints lucked out tonight.  This game will light a fire under Favre's ass and make him realize he owes the team for this loss. 
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: 240 is Back on September 09, 2010, 08:45:19 PM
good comments.  saints did get lucky... favre should have been back sooner... and yeah, they are gonna giftwrap another SB win for the saints if they can.
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: myt1 on September 09, 2010, 08:56:16 PM
good comments.  saints did get lucky... favre should have been back sooner... and yeah, they are gonna giftwrap another SB win for the saints if they can.


Well, if push comes to shove, I'd rather see that then Rapelisberger and the Lombardi Stealers get a third gift at the end of the season.  I've never seen two games so blatantly called in favor of a team as their last two super bowl appearances.  I refuse to say victories since all they did was appear to obtain the title.  Big Ben musta cornered a couple refs in a dark bathroom at the end of the hall  b4 the games with little ben in hand and a threatening disposition :(
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: noworries on September 09, 2010, 10:46:35 PM
some website for bad ref calls

refereewatchdogs.com (http://refereewatchdogs.com)
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: Royalty on September 10, 2010, 07:24:56 AM
How would the NFL benefit by "gift wrapping" a superbowl for tbe Saints?

Why would the commisioner care? I mean their running back has single handedly put his former college team in tons of trouble... And he hasnt even been playing that great as a pro.

Shockey is not exactly a role model either

drew brees is great though.

But why would the NFL benefit from the Saints winning the superbowl? Why not the cowboys, colts, or patriots?
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: The Showstoppa on September 10, 2010, 07:27:33 AM
How would the NFL benefit by "gift wrapping" a superbowl for tbe Saints?

Why would the commisioner care? I mean there running back has single handedly put his former college team in tons of trouble... And he hasnt even been playing that great as a pro.

Shockey is not exactly a role model either

drew brees is great though.

But why would the NFL benefit from the Saints winning the superbowl? Why not the cowboys, colts, or patriots?


Because of the "feel good story" factor that they have not quit babbling about since the Saints return when they had Greenday sing a freakin' songg abou them to open the game vs Atlanta.....
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: jtsunami on September 10, 2010, 07:35:04 AM
brett really needs to take his social security and retire already, the guy has a complete head of grey hair, and was on his way to his grandson or granddaughter's christening or something after the game.  If he grew his hair out and grew a beard he would look like a senior citizen.  Dude needs to move out of the way for the new younger generation of players, he is old and fragile, move to a retirement home and get it over with!
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: Fury on September 10, 2010, 08:02:45 AM
Why are the Vikes surprised they lost? This is what happens when your QB shows up a week before the season starts and hasn't had enough time to get the rust off and rebuild the chemistry with his receivers. Not having Rice is going to hurt them as well.
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: CalvinH on September 10, 2010, 08:15:05 AM
Why are the Vikes surprised they lost? This is what happens when your QB shows up a week before the season starts and hasn't had enough time to get the rust off and rebuild the chemistry with his receivers. Not having Rice is going to hurt them as well.



Though the Vike's TE is pretty damn good :-\
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: CC973 on September 10, 2010, 08:16:31 AM
dallas will win the nfc this year.
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: MB on September 10, 2010, 08:20:02 AM
The Saints are good, but I don't think their defense is good enough to repeat.  Favre looks like he's going through the motions this year.  I don't think he really wanted to play. 
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 10, 2010, 08:45:34 AM
who cares about these assholes.....the JETS are what's up this year  8)
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: MCWAY on September 10, 2010, 08:55:12 AM
How would the NFL benefit by "gift wrapping" a superbowl for tbe Saints?

Why would the commisioner care? I mean their running back has single handedly put his former college team in tons of trouble... And he hasnt even been playing that great as a pro.

Shockey is not exactly a role model either

drew brees is great though.

But why would the NFL benefit from the Saints winning the superbowl? Why not the cowboys, colts, or patriots?

One thing they keep forgetting about the Saints is....THE DIVISION IN WHICH THEY PLAY: The NFC South.

Specifically, no team has ever repeated as NFC South Champions. The team that has won the division one year has FAILED to make the playoffs the next year. To top it all off, 6 out of 7 years, the team that placed LAST one season won the division the next season.

The Saints did it twice (last, 2005: 3-13; first 2006: 10-6; last 2008: 8-8; first 2009: 13-3). But, so has MY team, the BUCS (last, 2004: 5-11; first, 2005: 11-5; last, 2006: 4-12; first, 2007: 9-7).

And, if that weren't enough of an omen, let's not forget that, over the last 10 seasons, 4 teams that won the Super Bowl didn't make the playoffs the next year: New England, Pittsburgh (twice), and (unfortunately for me) Tampa Bay.

So, the Saints repeating is not likely. If they can do it, they will have truly accomplished something almost unfathomable.
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: MCWAY on September 10, 2010, 09:01:24 AM
Why are the Vikes surprised they lost? This is what happens when your QB shows up a week before the season starts and hasn't had enough time to get the rust off and rebuild the chemistry with his receivers. Not having Rice is going to hurt them as well.

That's also why shortening the pre-season is a dumb idea. You need time and reps to get sharp for the regular season. Plus, guys are fighting for jobs. You can't make the determination in just two games. I doubt any player can just roll in for two games and just pick up where he left off at the end of the previous season, let alone someone older and fighting nagging injuries like Favre.

Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: The Showstoppa on September 10, 2010, 10:07:45 AM
Rice being out was the biggest reason the Vikings didn't win.  Berrian looked awful, Harvin disappeared.....AP and Shiancothe (sp) are the only real weapons on offense. 
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: myt1 on September 10, 2010, 11:25:01 AM
brett really needs to take his social security and retire already, the guy has a complete head of grey hair, and was on his way to his grandson or granddaughter's christening or something after the game.  If he grew his hair out and grew a beard he would look like a senior citizen.  Dude needs to move out of the way for the new younger generation of players, he is old and fragile, move to a retirement home and get it over with!

You're a fucking dummy.  300+ consecutive starts = fragile huh?  Every other NFL player in history should be so lucky to be that weak

He had a better season statistically than his mvp years, and he should make way for the younger guys that couldn't hold his jockstrap while he is nearly twice their age?  Alrighty then.   ???
 


Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 10, 2010, 11:29:50 AM
You're a fucking dummy.  300+ consecutive starts = fragile huh?  Every other NFL player in history should be so lucky to be that weak

He had a better season statistically than his mvp years, and he should make way for the younger guys that couldn't hold his jockstrap while he is nearly twice their age?  Alrighty then.   ???
 




Vikings aren't gonna do shit this year
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: myt1 on September 10, 2010, 11:36:08 AM
Vikings aren't gonna do shit this year

Who's your pick to be in the super bowl and to win?
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: ManBearPig... on September 10, 2010, 11:58:52 AM
my fantasy team has brees and vikings defense.

basically a shitty game for me last night.
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 10, 2010, 12:03:06 PM
Who's your pick to be in the super bowl and to win?

Not the Vikings
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: myt1 on September 10, 2010, 12:04:36 PM
Not the Vikings

Well you have a 31 outta 32 chance of being right then.  Well done ;D
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: Nails on September 10, 2010, 12:10:49 PM
i mean i understand the Patriots getting their first superbowl right after 911 when the NFL's only PATRIOTIC American symbolic team won it all, and then the Katrina hurricane granted the Saints their first superbowl win.

but you think the NFL will gift wrap the saints another superbowl just because of the BP oil spill  ???
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: ThaRealist on September 10, 2010, 12:40:13 PM
i mean i understand the Patriots getting their first superbowl right after 911 when the NFL's only PATRIOTIC American symbolic team won it all, and then the Katrina hurricane granted the Saints their first superbowl win.

but you think the NFL will gift wrap the saints another superbowl just because of the BP oil spill  ???

If the NFL gift wrapped the superbowl for the Saints why did it take them years to do it? I mean Katrina was in 05' they won the 09' season the logic of the NFL giving teams the superbowl is idiotic.
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: MCWAY on September 10, 2010, 12:56:57 PM
i mean i understand the Patriots getting their first superbowl right after 911 when the NFL's only PATRIOTIC American symbolic team won it all, and then the Katrina hurricane granted the Saints their first superbowl win.

but you think the NFL will gift wrap the saints another superbowl just because of the BP oil spill  ???

No disaster hit the Tampa Bay area in 2002.

 ;D
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: Earl1972 on September 10, 2010, 12:59:53 PM
and then the Katrina hurricane granted the Saints their first superbowl win.



yeah 4 years after katrina ::)

if you think the fix was in, why didn't the saints beat the bears in the nfc title game only one year after katrina?

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Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: ThaRealist on September 10, 2010, 01:09:31 PM
yeah 4 years after katrina ::)

if you think the fix was in, why didn't the saints beat the bears in the nfc title game only one year after katrina?

E

I wonder if people even really use logic when coming up with these theories lol?
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: Nails on September 10, 2010, 01:16:19 PM
yeah 4 years after katrina ::)

if you think the fix was in, why didn't the saints beat the bears in the nfc title game only one year after katrina?

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Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: G_Thang on September 10, 2010, 01:25:07 PM
How would the NFL benefit by "gift wrapping" a superbowl for tbe Saints?

saints vs the colts was the most watched sporting event ever.  the nfl sold the whole redemption and katrina comeback story the minute the saints stepped in the playoffs.  there was no way the league was going to past. 

1. rickey jackson 1st saint in hall of fame
2. nfl continued pushing the story how they donated 30M to bring the superdome back but the city is stil FUCKED up.
3. katrina humanitarian award after award going to brees, etc 4 damn yrs after the storm
   

Why would the commisioner care?

why wouldnt they want the biggest televised sporting event ever associated with the nfl?


I mean their running back has single handedly put his former college team in tons of trouble.

like nfl gives a f##k about college scandals.  ::)

.. And he hasnt even been playing that great as a pro.

the guy took money, didnt kill anyone.  you think he is the first to have a ncaa team slammed

Shockey is not exactly a role model either

nfl dont give a f##k.  ray lewis was mixed up in 2 guys getting killed during superbowl week.  the nfl knows you groupie b###hes will follow the league no matter the crime. 

drew brees is great though.

f##k em

But why would the NFL benefit from the Saints winning the superbowl?

didnt i just answer the "fell good story", "helping bring the city back", "how they put up 30M for renovate the dome", etc.  why the f##k not?

Why not the cowboys, colts, or patriots?

didnt i just answer why the saints vs these teams?  you cant attach katrina to any of those teams


my parents are immigrants but i was born and raised in LA.  let them win it fair and square.  dont do this kind of BS build up.  no body was going to get a call against the team last season to stop them from winning the game.  if it's in the leagure best interest and they can continue to milk this s##t...the saints will win again. 
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: powermaxx9 on September 10, 2010, 03:16:18 PM
farve was terrible, he's lost the touch, age got him  :P
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: myt1 on September 10, 2010, 03:22:41 PM
farve was terrible, he's lost the touch, age got him  :P

He will have over 3500 yards, 30 td's, and less than 14 picks this year.  Bank it.

Last night was just rust, and it was against the defending champs.  I can't believe you Favre bashers haven't learned your lesson yet about doubting him.  He has been in 2 of the last 3 NFC championship games.  Know any other qb that has done that between 38-40 years old?
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: tallgerman on September 10, 2010, 05:30:47 PM

Well, if push comes to shove, I'd rather see that then Rapelisberger and the Lombardi Stealers get a third gift at the end of the season.  I've never seen two games so blatantly called in favor of a team as their last two super bowl appearances.  I refuse to say victories since all they did was appear to obtain the title.  Big Ben musta cornered a couple refs in a dark bathroom at the end of the hall  b4 the games with little ben in hand and a threatening disposition :(

straight up

The steelers got schooled by other teams in reg season and then win sb each time?
I more than even think whole thing is fixed which sucks cuz then my pats were fixed too! [goes and retaches]
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: Nails on September 10, 2010, 05:32:33 PM
straight up

The steelers got schooled by other teams in reg season and then win sb each time?
I more than even think whole thing is fixed which sucks cuz then my pats were fixed too! [goes and retaches]

Steelers Vs Seahawks was the biggest inside job i ever seen, and i could careless if the seahawks win
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 10, 2010, 05:37:47 PM
Steelers Vs Seahawks was the biggest inside job i ever seen, and i could careless if the seahawks win

Indeed.....i don't go for "fix" theories as a rule, but that game had me thinking WTF is going on here
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: ThaRealist on September 10, 2010, 08:03:07 PM
I guess all you guys believing in the "fixed" theory also believe in the never get an injury all year fairy. That allows all players on the "chosen" team to never get an injury....You guys are seriously pathetic....I could understand a game or two to be thrown, but not a whole season, grow up....
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: 240 is Back on September 10, 2010, 08:29:49 PM
its an interesting point.  People lie and make/break the rules all the time for hundreds of dollars at their jobs.  People commit felonies for thousands of dollars.  Hell, they kill for thousands.

For millions... people will start wars, right?  They'll cause panics and anything else, for millions.

Now, the NFL makes what, $8 BILLION a year?  I can see them bending some rules and fixing some games and creatively 'managing' some injuries, outcomes, dream stories, etc.

Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: ThaRealist on September 10, 2010, 08:34:05 PM
its an interesting point.  People lie and make/break the rules all the time for hundreds of dollars at their jobs.  People commit felonies for thousands of dollars.  Hell, they kill for thousands.

For millions... people will start wars, right?  They'll cause panics and anything else, for millions.

Now, the NFL makes what, $8 BILLION a year?  I can see them bending some rules and fixing some games and creatively 'managing' some injuries, outcomes, dream stories, etc.



Rob I respect you more than this....It is much more difficult to manufacture a whole season of no serious injuries and refs throwing the right flags than to manufacture a war with minimum media exposure at war sites....Its not like 70k fans are watching war activities as they happen....
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: 240 is Back on September 10, 2010, 08:42:35 PM
Rob I respect you more than this....It is much more difficult to manufacture a whole season of no serious injuries and refs throwing the right flags than to manufacture a war with minimum media exposure at war sites....Its not like 70k fans are watching war activities as they happen....

I don't mean a whole season would be manufactured.  I just mean, that in a game of inches and such subjective evaluations... it wouldn't be hard for the refs to 'know' the 4 or 5 teams that would be the most marketable for a playoff and super bowl matchup.

I don't mean the players play at anything less than 100%.... I just mean on calls like holding, pass interference, spotting the ball, etc, the refs can influence games.  that Steelers game - you know, the feelgood story as Bettis got his ring and went out on top - had a lot of calls go against the Seahawks.

So that's my take.  We KNOW it happened in the NBA, refs knew who they wanted to win series, and they did change who won pivotal games.

If "I" ran the NFL... and I could ask a few refs to lean one way, and I'd end up with an extra $500 mil in ad revenue from playoff tv time.... hell yes I'd lean on it. :)
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: ThaRealist on September 10, 2010, 08:46:56 PM
I don't mean a whole season would be manufactured.  I just mean, that in a game of inches and such subjective evaluations... it wouldn't be hard for the refs to 'know' the 4 or 5 teams that would be the most marketable for a playoff and super bowl matchup.

I don't mean the players play at anything less than 100%.... I just mean on calls like holding, pass interference, spotting the ball, etc, the refs can influence games.  that Steelers game - you know, the feelgood story as Bettis got his ring and went out on top - had a lot of calls go against the Seahawks.

So that's my take.  We KNOW it happened in the NBA, refs knew who they wanted to win series, and they did change who won pivotal games.

If "I" ran the NFL... and I could ask a few refs to lean one way, and I'd end up with an extra $500 mil in ad revenue from playoff tv time.... hell yes I'd lean on it. :)


That is what I am saying....In big games I can believe it, but people in this thread are saying a whole season is manufactured............ ........
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: 240 is Back on September 10, 2010, 09:01:45 PM

That is what I am saying....In big games I can believe it, but people in this thread are saying a whole season is manufactured............ ........

I guess the thinking is...

if you toss enough calls in favor of the teams you like in every game... by the time the playoffs roll around, you'll have 9 of 12 teams being those deemed most profitable.

We've seen some stinkers in sports... Spurs and Nets?  LOL... you have Lakers vs. Cavs, you make a shitload more $.  Remember HOW BAD the refs tried to give the ORL-CLEVE series to lebron 2 years ago?  It was pathetic.  They wanted that laker/cav final so bad.  Dwight howard was called for EVERYTHING.  And the magic still won.  It was like they had to beat the cavs and the refs.  IMO, the fix was def in there.
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: ThaRealist on September 10, 2010, 09:05:37 PM
I guess the thinking is...

if you toss enough calls in favor of the teams you like in every game... by the time the playoffs roll around, you'll have 9 of 12 teams being those deemed most profitable.

We've seen some stinkers in sports... Spurs and Nets?  LOL... you have Lakers vs. Cavs, you make a shitload more $.  Remember HOW BAD the refs tried to give the ORL-CLEVE series to lebron 2 years ago?  It was pathetic.  They wanted that laker/cav final so bad.  Dwight howard was called for EVERYTHING.  And the magic still won.  It was like they had to beat the cavs and the refs.  IMO, the fix was def in there.

Lets move this back to football....When they had a chance to let the Saint's beat the Bears why didn't they take it? Why did they let the bears go against the Colts....It would have been the same match up as 09'
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: CC973 on September 10, 2010, 09:13:51 PM
farve was terrible, he's lost the touch, age got him  :P

lol. give that man a week or 2 to knock off some of the rust. he'll be as good as he was last year.
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: ThaRealist on September 10, 2010, 09:17:48 PM
lol. give that man a week or 2 to knock off some of the rust. he'll be as good as he was last year.

Not with the Williams Wall falling like it did to a mid ranked Saints D....lol
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: 240 is Back on September 10, 2010, 09:22:56 PM
Lets move this back to football....When they had a chance to let the Saint's beat the Bears why didn't they take it? Why did they let the bears go against the Colts....It would have been the same match up as 09'

Bears killed the Saints 39-14 in a snowy ugly, smashmouth game.  A small 'lean' fix only works when shit is close, as it was last year in the NFC championship.  Sometimes a shitty selling team just kicks the crap outta the media darlings.


Then they had to go to Plan B, "Two black coaches meet for the first time"

They have a narrative planned to sell every game, that one was cool too.  but not nearly as big as "an entire city devestated has its return to glory!" a year later.
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: ThaRealist on September 10, 2010, 09:38:57 PM
Bears killed the Saints 39-14 in a snowy ugly, smashmouth game.  A small 'lean' fix only works when shit is close, as it was last year in the NFC championship.  Sometimes a shitty selling team just kicks the crap outta the media darlings.


Then they had to go to Plan B, "Two black coaches meet for the first time"

They have a narrative planned to sell every game, that one was cool too.  but not nearly as big as "an entire city devestated has its return to glory!" a year later.


Sooooooo, Rob why didn't they try to help the calls for the Saints the year before that??? Or how about the year after the 07' season, why weren't they chosen then....Rob grow up
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: 240 is Back on September 10, 2010, 09:41:43 PM
Sooooooo, Rob why didn't they try to help the calls for the Saints the year before that??? Or how about the year after the 07' season, why weren't they chosen then....Rob grow up

IMO, the team has to be very good.  Saints just weren't at that elite level yet.  You can't just pick a 1-15 team and decide they'll be in the Super bowl the next year.

But you can look at one of the 5 or 6 best teams, and do everything possible to give them good playoff position and the benefit of the doubt in close games.

Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: ThaRealist on September 10, 2010, 09:43:58 PM
IMO, the team has to be very good.  Saints just weren't at that elite level yet.  You can't just pick a 1-15 team and decide they'll be in the Super bowl the next year.

But you can look at one of the 5 or 6 best teams, and do everything possible to give them good playoff position and the benefit of the doubt in close games.



Come on Rob....Then any team that can achieve a .500 season, but has something bad happen to their area is a guranteed superbowl eventhough it may be 5 years later...This is gettin ridiculous
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: 240 is Back on September 10, 2010, 09:46:20 PM
again, i'm not saying it was guaranteed anything.  Just that, looking at that last series of the NFC championship game... and the way Howard was called for nonstop fouls when standing still.... I do see times when the refs seem to want one team to make it to the final game.

Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: G_Thang on September 11, 2010, 07:45:56 AM
best ratings for opening game for a season.  add that to the best ratings ever for a sporting event with the superbowl.  if the nfl can continue to sell the comeback story of the saints and post katrina, and continue to have these kind of ratings...you are doing crack if you think the nfl will not pull strings again if this team gets to the playoffs again.  ratings  may even be better if there is a repeat.



Saints' win vs. Vikings draws best TV rating ever for NFL's opening night game

                

The NFL started the 2010 regular season in the same spot in the same spot it ended last season -- with TV viewership reaching record levels.

NBC's telecast of the New Orleans Saints' 14-9 win against the Minnesota Vikings drew a 17.7 overnight rating. That translates to 17.7% of viewers in 56 urban TV markets that are measured for overnight ratings.

The Vikings-Saints overnight is the highest for an NFL primetime regular-season game in 13 years and the top overnight rating ever for an opening night game ever.

The NFL has started its season on Thursday night since 2002.

The game drew a 28 share which translates into 28% of all TV households with televisions on at the time.

It continued a trend of boffo TV viewership for the NFL.

An average of more than 16 million viewers watched each regular-season game last season, the highest level since 1990. And the Saints' win in Super Bowl XLIV became the most-watched TV show of all time.

It's good news for the NFL, but also feeds the growing concern around the league about the contrast between the luxurious, tech-savvy home-viewing environment and the declining attendance at NFL stadiums.

    
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: Fury on September 11, 2010, 07:50:57 AM
It can't have anything to do with the fact that the Saints are just a really, really entertaining team to watch. Nope, that's not possible.
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: G_Thang on September 11, 2010, 08:21:03 AM
It can't have anything to do with the fact that the Saints are just a really, really entertaining team to watch. Nope, that's not possible.

nope.  minny is just as good with brett gun slinging and peterson "i'm 10x better than the media driven Reggie Douche"...just doesnt have the ratings bonanza storyline.   
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: myt1 on September 11, 2010, 08:30:46 AM
Personally the whole Katrina tie in is fuckin dumb.  The players are all rich as hell and mostly unaffected by it.  How does them winning a championship do anything for  someone who lost their home and is now living in a FEMA trailer?  It doesn't.  The reason people watch them is they are damn good on offense, and that is what people want to see.  People want to see long passes for touchdowns and the celebrations that follow.  The Saints and Colts do that.  Just like everyone used to watch the Niners even if that wasn't their team.  You knew you were going to see damn good football when they played. 
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: Fury on September 11, 2010, 08:35:06 AM
Personally the whole Katrina tie in is fuckin dumb.  The players are all rich as hell and mostly unaffected by it.  How does them winning a championship do anything for  someone who lost their home and is now living in a FEMA trailer?  It doesn't.  The reason people watch them is they are damn good on offense, and that is what people want to see.  People want to see long passes for touchdowns and the celebrations that follow.  The Saints and Colts do that.  Just like everyone used to watch the Niners even if that wasn't their team.  You knew you were going to see damn good football when they played. 

Exactly. People didn't watch the Patriots or Rams when they were dominating because of storylines. They watched them because they dropped 40+ points a game. High powered offenses bring in the ratings and the Saints have a high powered offense.
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: G_Thang on September 11, 2010, 08:38:01 AM
Personally the whole Katrina tie in is fuckin dumb.  The players are all rich as hell and mostly unaffected by it.  How does them winning a championship do anything for  someone who lost their home and is now living in a FEMA trailer?  It doesn't.  The reason people watch them is they are damn good on offense, and that is what people want to see.  People want to see long passes for touchdowns and the celebrations that follow.  The Saints and Colts do that.  Just like everyone used to watch the Niners even if that wasn't their team.  You knew you were going to see damn good football when they played. 

 ???

i was born and raised just outside the city just like howard white.  did you not watch the nfl's build up of the saints?  why was it so important for them to point out how they donated 30M for the dome, how the city will be uplifted from a nfl team winning a superbowl  ::) for the city, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc?  btw...i have family rebuilding.  Thanks.        
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: HTexan on September 11, 2010, 08:41:09 AM
nah, the NFL isn't fixed, the NBA is.
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: myt1 on September 11, 2010, 09:05:57 AM
???

i was born and raised just outside the city just like howard white.  did you not watch the nfl's build up of the saints?  why was it so important for them to point out how they donated 30M for the dome, how the city will be uplifted from a nfl team winning a superbowl  ::) for the city, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc?  btw...i have family rebuilding.  Thanks.        

I don't know who howard white is or why it's relevant here, but whatever.  Yes, I saw the build up. I'm not saying that isn't how it was marketed.  I'm saying that I thought it was pathetic and didn't give two shits about that.....that the Saints/ Katrina tie together, not that families were devastated by Katrina....I watched them, bcuz I thought Drew Brees was going to light some shit up.  Oh, and I think the little pregame chants they do are cool too. :P

And of course the NFL is going to talk about the donations they do.  Especially right now when the owners are about to lock out the players becuase 60% or whatever they get isn't enough of a cut outta 8 billion dollars.  Never mind the fact that these players are so big and so fast in such a violent game that their career/ life could be over on one bad hit.  Right now the NFL is going to do whatever they can to look like.....well, saints bcuz they want the dumb fuck public to be their dumb selves and think that the players are the greedy one cuz they make too much money playing a "game" while Joe Blow just pours his heart and soul into his cube job and only makes 40k.  Just shut up and play ball right?
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 11, 2010, 09:46:01 AM
There are "angles" and storylines to every big game....The Katrina tie-in is so fucking obvious any marketer worth his salt would jump all over it.......If there was an MLB team in NO and they went to the world series we'd be bombarded with "Katrina" all over again.(ps katrina isn't even relevant anymore)

 When the Yankees went to the Series in 2001 all they talked about was 9/11  and every shot had a celeb wearing an FDNY or NYPD hat.......I'm from NY and i was sick of it.

That being said I doubt there is an organized plan to get "chosen" teams to the Super Bowl. I do think the "sexy' teams and the stars occasionally get friendly calls, but it doesn't go any deeper than that.....and it happens in every sport.

PS the Yankees lost that series
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: body88 on September 11, 2010, 09:50:56 AM
It can't have anything to do with the fact that the Saints are just a really, really entertaining team to watch. Nope, that's not possible.

This.

Here are the facts:

People watch the Saints because (like the Patriots of 07 and the Rams of 01) they score a lot of points.

The Saints are a very good team. Better than the Vikings. It felt like it was 34 - 3 all game.

Farve is done. He will not repeat what he did last year. He'll be hurt by week 6.

All these "conspiracy's" are bunk and nothing more than excuses, or nonsense from posters who buy into every conspiracy theory under the sun.


Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 11, 2010, 09:59:10 AM
This.

Here are the facts:

People watch the Saints because (like the Patriots of 07 and the Rams of 01) they score a lot of points.

The Saints are a very good team. Better than the Vikings. It felt like it was 34 - 3 all game.

Farve is done. He will not repeat what he did last year. He'll be hurt by week 6.
All these "conspiracy's" are bunk and nothing more than excuses, or nonsense from posters who buy into every conspiracy theory under the sun.






bingo.......good post
Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: Earl1972 on September 11, 2010, 04:20:42 PM
straight up

The steelers got schooled by other teams in reg season and then win sb each time?
I more than even think whole thing is fixed which sucks cuz then my pats were fixed too! [goes and retaches]

what games did they get schooled?  i'm waiting

oh and your pats got schooled by my steelers in 04, then spy gate got my steelers in the afc title game

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Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: Earl1972 on September 11, 2010, 04:21:48 PM
Steelers Vs Seahawks was the biggest inside job i ever seen, and i could careless if the seahawks win


so the refs allowed willie parker to have the longest run in super bowl history, made the seahawks kicker miss 2 field goals, made their tight end drop 3 passes, and made homgren mismanage the clock ::) ::)

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Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: Earl1972 on September 11, 2010, 04:25:56 PM
all of you guys with conspiracy theories just can't accept the fact your team wasn't the best

the nba "fix" is hilarious, why did the spurs win 4 titles when they are boring and play in a small market ::)

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Title: Re: Saints Chosen by NFL to repeat, what a load of ref controlled SHIT
Post by: ThaRealist on September 11, 2010, 05:39:15 PM
all of you guys with conspiracy theories just can't accept the fact your team wasn't the best

the nba "fix" is hilarious, why did the spurs win 4 titles when they are boring and play in a small market ::)

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They are f'in morons and I can't believe they put so much into these bullshit theories....I say again GROW UP idiots