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"My position is, lets get done what we all agree on," said the president. "What they've said is, 'We all agree that the middle-class tax cuts should be made permanent. Let's work on that, let's do it.' We can have a further conversation about how they want to spend an additional $700 billion dollars to give an average of $100,000 to millionaires. That, I think, is a bad idea. If you were going to spend that money there are a lot of better ways of spending it"
Ummm,"give them 100,000"?Its their freaking money you skinny little tiny community organiser.Its not YOUR money or the filthy governments money!This is typical lib thinking.Our money is really their money and they decide what we may keep.Can you imagine "give them 100,000$".What did Imam Obama do to earn that money?
Its also amazing that he has the balls[must have borrowed his wifes]to say that he knows better how to spend that money.Yeah by giving it to filthy freaking unions,thats much better then letting people actually keeping what they make and spending it on things they want.Everytime this little man speaks I want to ram my head right through the tv set.A dirty muslim commie dickhead.
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Again - he is so clueless it hurts on these issues.
I amlsot feel sorry for how inept he comes across.
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The guy is at heart an elitist socialist turd.
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The funniest part is that Obama will be pulling down 7 figures after he leaves office and hits the speech circuit or joins a Private Equity firm.
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The tax brackets that will be hit are the brackets that include a majority of small-business's which are hurting bad right now and also happen to generate the most jobs in the country. Obama is an idiot and doesn't even acknowledge this...more class politics from a clown who has never had a real job and has lived off of Chicago/Illinois corruption which just so happens to be born off the backs of the "normal folks".
And what exactly is that 700 billion dollars "saved" (which makes no sense) going to be used for? An excuse to go into more debt? Further bailouts of Fannie and Freddie? Another Wizz-Bang Can't Fail stimulus bill?
The Democrats are going to find it a very different political landscape in D.C. in a few short months.
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What is even more incredible is that Imam Obama and his disgusting hag of a wife NEVER gave more then 2% of their income until this year.So,while he is quick to say he is giving the rich 100,000 of their own money,he and his cheap ass wife hang onto every freaking penny they have.Typical of ALL libs.
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The funniest part is that Obama will be pulling down 7 figures after he leaves office and hits the speech circuit or joins a Private Equity firm.
repubs better pray he doesn't retire in 2012.
hilary could beat up on him in the 2012 general, and WIN.
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repubs better pray he doesn't retire in 2012.
hilary could beat up on him in the 2012 general, and WIN.
Obama has destroyed the democrat name for the next ten years.By then EVERYTHING in the health care bill will be known and people will be so freaking angry that dems will be finnished for a few election cycles.Take a look at how it is now.Everyday we learn more and see how bad it really is.
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repubs better pray he doesn't retire in 2012.
hilary could beat up on him in the 2012 general, and WIN.
And the GATES OF HELL will really open up then if that happens...
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And the GATES OF HELL will really open up then if that happens...
Yeah, you Muslims hate women, huh?
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Obama has destroyed the democrat name for the next ten years.By then EVERYTHING in the health care bill will be known and people will be so freaking angry that dems will be finnished for a few election cycles.Take a look at how it is now.Everyday we learn more and see how bad it really is.
yeah, no.
they said the same thing about bush. remember that pendulum thing? In 4 years, Prez Thune will be starting a 4th war, soc security will have been privatized about 5 min before the DOW drops to 1500... and some war hero Dem will emerge to promise 'hope and change'.
Let's face it, repubs are some greedy fvcks just as much as dems are some socialist bytches.
had Soc Security been privatized, MILLIONS of people would have lost their house and retirement when the market crashed in 08. You know that. We all do. And IMO, that'll be the issue the next repub will run with, and it'll lead to the Dem winning the job back in 2016 or whenever.
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Yeah, you Muslims hate women, huh?
How can Muslims hate women when Muslim women must bare the next twenty children for the husband. With that many kids they will conquer Europe and America in no time...
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"My position is, lets get done what we all agree on," said the president. "What they've said is, 'We all agree that the middle-class tax cuts should be made permanent. Let's work on that, let's do it.' We can have a further conversation about how they want to spend an additional $700 billion dollars to give an average of $100,000 to millionaires. That, I think, is a bad idea. If you were going to spend that money there are a lot of better ways of spending it"
Ummm,"give them 100,000"?Its their freaking money you skinny little tiny community organiser.Its not YOUR money or the filthy governments money!This is typical lib thinking.Our money is really their money and they decide what we may keep.Can you imagine "give them 100,000$".What did Imam Obama do to earn that money?
Its also amazing that he has the balls[must have borrowed his wifes]to say that he knows better how to spend that money.Yeah by giving it to filthy freaking unions,thats much better then letting people actually keeping what they make and spending it on things they want.Everytime this little man speaks I want to ram my head right through the tv set.A dirty muslim commie dickhead.
This knowledge is WAY ABOVE YOUR PAY SCALE Queen Mimnaugh... Just relax and take another Enanthate shot
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Knowledge?
Obama is a rambling joke and inept, ignorant, and incompetent on matters of economics.
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yeah, no.
they said the same thing about bush. remember that pendulum thing? In 4 years, Prez Thune will be starting a 4th war, soc security will have been privatized about 5 min before the DOW drops to 1500... and some war hero Dem will emerge to promise 'hope and change'.
Let's face it, repubs are some greedy fvcks just as much as dems are some socialist bytches.
had Soc Security been privatized, MILLIONS of people would have lost their house and retirement when the market crashed in 08. You know that. We all do. And IMO, that'll be the issue the next repub will run with, and it'll lead to the Dem winning the job back in 2016 or whenever.
How do you figure that?I have a 401k and retirement plans that are based on the stock market,my mother is retired and all her money is in the market,when the market dipped neither of us were homeless and eventually we got every cent back.Another lib scare tactic and lie.
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How do you figure that?I have a 401k and retirement plans that are based on the stock market,my mother is retired and all her money is in the market
After the way the market dropped 1000 points in 5 minutes the exact same moment they were debating the fed audit - more than a few ppl believed that was a warning to BACK OFF, which they did.
If you have your $ in the market, well, that's your call. IMO it's just too risky. 90% of trades are done instantly by computers these days. The average investor has no chance. Market could be 1500 tomorrow at the push of a 'fat finger'... LOL @ people who believed someone entered billion instead of million and it caused that mess.
So yes, carry on. If the market is always awesome, you'll be good. People who invest in foreign currency and metals are silly and foolish. Gotcha
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"DEATH TO AMERICA!"
"PASS THE BISCUITS!"
"WE DIDN'T LAND ON PLYMOUTH ROCK, PLYMOUTH ROCK LANDED ON US!"
I think he meant one of those three things.
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After the way the market dropped 1000 points in 5 minutes the exact same moment they were debating the fed audit - more than a few ppl believed that was a warning to BACK OFF, which they did.
If you have your $ in the market, well, that's your call. IMO it's just too risky. 90% of trades are done instantly by computers these days. The average investor has no chance. Market could be 1500 tomorrow at the push of a 'fat finger'... LOL @ people who believed someone entered billion instead of million and it caused that mess.
So yes, carry on. If the market is always awesome, you'll be good. People who invest in foreign currency and metals are silly and foolish. Gotcha
Much better and far more reliable to have it funded by the government because they have lots of money to spend...oh wait,we are bankrupt.Maybe the Chinese will pay for us.
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I love how you guys love the character attacks, it's so fox news. I'm hate union subsidies with a fucking passion, regardless though taxes must be raised, if you want to be have any retirement benefits.
had Soc Security been privatized, MILLIONS of people would have lost their house and retirement when the market crashed in 08. You know that.
It's sad but that's not even debatable.
Your dogmatic protection of the top 1 percent is laughable. It may be their money, but it's money they made off the backs of american's. No one gets into the top 1 percent, without someone carrier them along the way. Don't get me wrong I'm not for big government, but someone gotta pay for a trillion dollar war, since business folk are the only people benefiting from the war, it seems fare they pay.
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I love how you guys love the character attacks, it's so fox news. I'm hate union subsidies with a fucking passion, regardless though taxes must be raised, if you want to be have any retirement benefits.
It's sad but that's not even debatable.
Your dogmatic protection of the top 1 percent is laughable. It may be their money, but it's money they made off the backs of american's. No one gets into the top 1 percent, without someone carrier them along the way. Don't get me wrong I'm not for big government, but someone gotta pay for a trillion dollar war, since business folk are the only people benefiting from the war, it seems fare they pay.
I disagree. Wealthy Americans (i.e., those with a high net worth) by and large earned their money through hard work, smart investing, and living below their means. The money they make is theirs. Does not belong to the government. Does not belong to anyone else.
I can understand you having a different perspective being in Canada, where they take half of what you make once you start making $100k (or something like that), but that's not the American way.
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I love how you guys love the character attacks, it's so fox news. I'm hate union subsidies with a fucking passion, regardless though taxes must be raised, if you want to be have any retirement benefits.
It's sad but that's not even debatable.
Your dogmatic protection of the top 1 percent is laughable. It may be their money, but it's money they made off the backs of american's. No one gets into the top 1 percent, without someone carrier them along the way. Don't get me wrong I'm not for big government, but someone gotta pay for a trillion dollar war, since business folk are the only people benefiting from the war, it seems fare they pay.
Pay for a trillion dollar war?Obama spent that in a week with his waste of time stimulus crap.Who has to pay for that?I will be happy to pay for a war,Im not happy having to pay for a payoff of filthy unions.
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I disagree. Wealthy Americans (i.e., those with a high net worth) by and large earned their money through hard work, smart investing, and living below their means. The money they make is theirs. Does not belong to the government. Does not belong to anyone else.
I can understand you having a different perspective being in Canada, where they take half of what you make once you start making $100k (or something like that), but that's not the American way.
just refresh me who's hurting worst right now with econ? My city has never been doing better :P
I'm not for canadian level tax rates, but you guys gotta step on to the 21 st century.But america owes an insane amount of money, and needs to race taxes to pay it off, or remove the military.
As far as 100k plus year guys earning their money that's true for some not true for others. Anyone in automotive, owes their salary to the fed, and a lot of small business made fortunes from the gov spending. Then their banking and finance fucks, who's role it is to progress the economy, yet have regressed it in the last decade. Of course if it weren't for obama's stimulus and bush's war this wouldn't be necessary, and if it weren't for free markets advocates we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place. It's a chicken and the egg argument.
But here we are, your gov needs cash and someone gotta pay.
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Pay for a trillion dollar war?Obama spent that in a week with his waste of time stimulus crap.Who has to pay for that?I will be happy to pay for a war,Im not happy having to pay for a payoff of filthy unions.
Mccain would of done the same thing. The announcement of massive stimulus was the only thing that kept the world from sinking in 2008. Do you fucks have no memory? This was done across the fucking globe. It put loads of money into the same small business owners who now want tax breaks.
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just refresh me who's hurting worst right now with econ? My city has never been doing better :P
I'm not for canadian level tax rates, but you guys gotta step on to the 21 st century.But america owes an insane amount of money, and needs to race taxes to pay it off, or remove the military.
As far as 100k plus year guys earning their money that's true for some not true for others. Anyone in automotive, owes their salary to the fed, and a lot of small business made fortunes from the gov spending. Then their banking and finance fucks, who's role it is to progress the economy, yet have regressed it in the last decade. Of course if it weren't for obama's stimulus and bush's war this wouldn't be necessary, and if it weren't for free markets advocates we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place. It's a chicken and the egg argument.
But here we are, your gov needs cash and someone gotta pay.
Raising taxes means LESS revenues to the government.Dropping taxes ALWAYS increases revenues to the government.
McCain voted AGAINST THE STIMULUS AS DID EVERY REPUBLICAN!!!!!!!!!!Your talking about the TARP program which bailed out the financial institutions.Please stop confusing these two programs.The stimulus was a tax payer pay off to public sector unions that has created ZERO jobs and was a total waste of money.Please,Im begging you,stop confusing these two programs.
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Mccain would of done the same thing.
How do you know this? Please explain.
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just refresh me who's hurting worst right now with econ? My city has never been doing better :P
I'm not for canadian level tax rates, but you guys gotta step on to the 21 st century.But america owes an insane amount of money, and needs to race taxes to pay it off, or remove the military.
As far as 100k plus year guys earning their money that's true for some not true for others. Anyone in automotive, owes their salary to the fed, and a lot of small business made fortunes from the gov spending. Then their banking and finance fucks, who's role it is to progress the economy, yet have regressed it in the last decade. Of course if it weren't for obama's stimulus and bush's war this wouldn't be necessary, and if it weren't for free markets advocates we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place. It's a chicken and the egg argument.
But here we are, your gov needs cash and someone gotta pay.
Did your mother bellyflop off of Niagra Falls when she was pregnant with you? ::)
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Did your mother bellyflop off of Niagra Falls when she was pregnant with you? ::)
He's a loan-shirking benefit leech. Don't mind him. ::)
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How do you know this? Please explain.
Well it can be assumed. It's pretty much a given.Do you really think all the guys at Cheveron Exonmobil, and Haliburton would of let oil drop much lower?
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Well it can be assumed. It's pretty much a given.Do you really think all the guys at Cheveron Exonmobil, and Haliburton would of let oil drop much lower?
::) ::)
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just refresh me who's hurting worst right now with econ? My city has never been doing better :P
I'm not for canadian level tax rates, but you guys gotta step on to the 21 st century.But america owes an insane amount of money, and needs to race taxes to pay it off, or remove the military.
As far as 100k plus year guys earning their money that's true for some not true for others. Anyone in automotive, owes their salary to the fed, and a lot of small business made fortunes from the gov spending. Then their banking and finance fucks, who's role it is to progress the economy, yet have regressed it in the last decade. Of course if it weren't for obama's stimulus and bush's war this wouldn't be necessary, and if it weren't for free markets advocates we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place. It's a chicken and the egg argument.
But here we are, your gov needs cash and someone gotta pay.
??? I was responding to this comment: "It may be their money, but it's money they made off the backs of american's. No one gets into the top 1 percent, without someone carrier them along the way."
Wealthy Americans earn their money by working hard. They also give a substantial portion of their earnings to charity. They don't simply make money "off the backs of Americans." Not true.
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Does anyone else find it ironic that someone who can't meet his loan obligations is lecturing others on money management?
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??? I was responding to this comment: "It may be their money, but it's money they made off the backs of american's. No one gets into the top 1 percent, without someone carrier them along the way."
Wealthy Americans earn their money by working hard. They also give a substantial portion of their earnings to charity. They don't simply make money "off the backs of Americans." Not true.
I'm sure I seen every single 100ker being carried on someones back ::)
There are loads of free loading rich folk, some do earn their way I'm not against capital. But America got some rampant corruption problems.
My belief is the USA needs to be broken up, how to do this of course is the challenge. As it's far too massive to have good governance. There are far too many degrees of separation to keep a country afloat.
Does anyone else find it ironic that someone who can't meet his loan obligations is lecturing others on money management?
Mom pays :P
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I'm sure I seen every single 100ker being carried on someones back ::)
There are loads of free loading rich folk, some do earn their way I'm not against capital. But America got some rampant corruption problems.
My belief is the USA needs to be broken up, how to do this of course is the challenge. As it's far too massive to have good governance. There are far too many degrees of separation to keep a country afloat.
Mom pays :P
Dude. Not sure I can respond to much more. Trying to read your posts is painful. :-\
What exactly are "free loading rich folk"?
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Dude. Not sure I can respond to much more. Trying to read your posts is painful. :-\
What exactly are "free loading rich folk"?
cough cough george w bush, or anyone else that was born into money. Along with all these insider CEO deals. Where a guy get's 1 million dollar salary because he goes to the right country club. Don't pretend this stuff don't exist. Ideally gov shouldn't get involved, and this kind of corruption is found everywhere in the world. However in America it becomes a serious issue, when you have C.E.O's running companies into the ground, yet still are able to keep their mc mansions.
again in theory a person earns a million dollars a year because he's cheaper than have 10 VP's making 120k a year. However this is becoming very distorted due to the influence these rich pricks posses.
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cough cough george w bush, or anyone else that was born into money. Along with all these insider CEO deals. Where a guy get's 1 million dollar salary because he goes to the right country club. Don't pretend this stuff don't exist. Ideally gov shouldn't get involved, and this kind of corruption is found everywhere in the world. However in America it becomes a serious issue, when you have C.E.O's running companies into the ground, yet still are able to keep their mc mansions.
again in theory a person earns a million dollars a year because he's cheaper than have 10 VP's making 120k a year. However this is becoming very distorted due to the influence these rich pricks posses.
And of this from someone who probably still gets a weekly allowance from his Mother
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cough cough george w bush, or anyone else that was born into money. Along with all these insider CEO deals. Where a guy get's 1 million dollar salary because he goes to the right country club. Don't pretend this stuff don't exist. Ideally gov shouldn't get involved, and this kind of corruption is found everywhere in the world. However in America it becomes a serious issue, when you have C.E.O's running companies into the ground, yet still are able to keep their mc mansions.
again in theory a person earns a million dollars a year because he's cheaper than have 10 VP's making 120k a year. However this is becoming very distorted due to the influence these rich pricks posses.
The vast majority of wealthy Americans (those with a net worth of $1 million or more), were not born into money. They earned it, most of them by owning their own business.
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cough cough george w bush, or anyone else that was born into money. Along with all these insider CEO deals. Where a guy get's 1 million dollar salary because he goes to the right country club. Don't pretend this stuff don't exist. Ideally gov shouldn't get involved, and this kind of corruption is found everywhere in the world. However in America it becomes a serious issue, when you have C.E.O's running companies into the ground, yet still are able to keep their mc mansions.
again in theory a person earns a million dollars a year because he's cheaper than have 10 VP's making 120k a year. However this is becoming very distorted due to the influence these rich pricks posses.
George W Bush became governor of Texas and then became president,Id hardly say he is a free loader.He has made millions of his own money.Id take a million GWBs over one fucking idiot from the community Imam Obama "organised" any day of the week.
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George W Bush became governor of Texas and then became president,Id hardly say he is a free loader.He has made millions of his own money.Id take a million GWBs over one fucking idiot from the community Imam Obama "organised" any day of the week.
Are you fucking kidding me, he's the classic example of someone that got everything through inheritance and connections. His daddy pushed him through school, gave him loads of connections with industry and politics. You gotta be naive to think that a guy that had no natural ability made it on his own. He's the textbook example of corruption, and freeloading.
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Are you fucking kidding me, he's the classic example of someone that got everything through inheritance and connections. His daddy pushed him through school, gave him loads of connections with industry and politics. You gotta be naive to think that a guy that had no natural ability made it on his own. He's the textbook example of corruption, and freeloading.
Sort of like Al Gore and John Kerry?
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Sort of like Al Gore and John Kerry?
The majority of both parties, I'm not no liberal. I just support the very few liberal policies that make sense. Corruption finds it's way around most governments. It's when it's so obvious, yet people are so unaware or apathetic this is when the big deep problems starts.