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Wacky stuff!
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::) You have got to be kidding me.... That's some psycho retarded bullshit right there.
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There is NOTHING psycho about that at all IF your a Christian.Jesus himself said if you do it in your mind you have done it.So if you think lustfully about another women,you have committed adultery.The real psycho stuff is elitists who refuse to understand that there are those who have faith in God and follow the teachings of the Bible.Small minded bigots,who think they know better then billions of people throughout history.No one says you have to believe it,but the idea that you mock it shows YOUR the psychos and small minded goof balls.
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The real psycho crap is the agenda of this present govt.
I thought you far lefties sdaid what people do in their own bedroom, or don't do, is no one elses' business?
I guess that only applies when its a far left dyke, fag, or other freak.
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i saw this online today ...“Wait, Christine O’Donnell is 41 and has never been married? Does that mean she’s a 41 year-old virgin who’s never masturbated?!”... ;D ;D ;D
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i saw this online today ...“Wait, Christine O’Donnell is 41 and has never been married? Does that mean she’s a 41 year-old virgin who’s never masturbated?!”... ;D ;D ;D
I didnt hear her say "I never masterbated".I heard her say masterbation is the same as adultery.Are we now saying if you think something is a sin and you say its a sin,it means you never do it?Would you agree that stealing is wrong?Have you ever stolen?Because we do something doesnt make it right.She might masterbate ten times a day for all I know,and all ten times its the same as committing adultery according to her faith and beliefs.
By the way,she is a pretty good looking chick,I doubt if she wanted sex she would have trouble finding it.Remember ,its only liberal women that look like pigs.
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i saw this online today ...“Wait, Christine O’Donnell is 41 and has never been married? Does that mean she’s a 41 year-old virgin who’s never masturbated?!”... ;D ;D ;D
I`d venture she is a closeted Lesbian. I am almost positive this is the case.
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I didnt hear her say "I never masterbated".I heard her say masterbation is the same as adultery.Are we now saying if you think something is a sin and you say its a sin,it means you never do it?Would you agree that stealing is wrong?Have you ever stolen?Because we do something doesnt make it right.She might masterbate ten times a day for all I know,and all ten times its the same as committing adultery according to her faith and beliefs.
By the way,she is a pretty good looking chick,I doubt if she wanted sex she would have trouble finding it.Remember ,its only liberal women that look like pigs.
Stealing is not wrong. I can think of a million circumstances where stealing would be the right thing to do.
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Stealing is not wrong. I can think of a million circumstances where stealing would be the right thing to do.
Stealing is wrong in EVERY case IF you believe the Bible.Justifying it as people do with the "if your starving and you steal bread is it wrong".YES its still wrong.The problem with people like you,is you see these things through your eyes,instead of Christians eyes.Just as Muslims think stoning homosexuals is ok,you would say its wrong.Their law and faith says its fine.
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There is NOTHING psycho about that at all IF your a Christian.Jesus himself said if you do it in your mind you have done it.So if you think lustfully about another women,you have committed adultery.The real psycho stuff is elitists who refuse to understand that there are those who have faith in God and follow the teachings of the Bible.Small minded bigots,who think they know better then billions of people throughout history.No one says you have to believe it,but the idea that you mock it shows YOUR the psychos and small minded goof balls.
Hi psycho... ::)
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LOL at the ppl posting in this thread that complain about nobody talking about the "real issues"
LOL at the ppl who think this over a decade old clip is relevant but defended obamas early connections and stances on a hand gun ban and universal health care...
LOL at the sheer idiocy of it all
saddened by the hypocrisey of it all ::)
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Stealing is not wrong. I can think of a million circumstances where stealing would be the right thing to do.
How about murder in retaliaton to your stealing?
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LOL at the ppl posting in this thread that complain about nobody talking about the "real issues"
LOL at the ppl who think this over a decade old clip is relevant but defended obamas early connections and stances on a hand gun ban and universal health care...
LOL at the sheer idiocy of it all
saddened by the hypocrisey of it all ::)
That is because the far left wants nothing to do with talking about issues. Everything they have done and advocated over the last two years has failed and made things drastically worse.
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i saw this online today ...“Wait, Christine O’Donnell is 41 and has never been married? Does that mean she’s a 41 year-old virgin who’s never masturbated?!”... ;D ;D ;D
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahhahaahhaahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha.....
She must be a soviet spy :D That's beyond any cold fish America can produce. lolol....
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Hi psycho... ::)
Hi anti Christian bigot.A fool that voted for a man that sat in a black seperatist church calling anyone else psycho.Hello pot meet kettle.
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LOL at the ppl posting in this thread that complain about nobody talking about the "real issues"
LOL at the ppl who think this over a decade old clip is relevant but defended obamas early connections and stances on a hand gun ban and universal health care...
LOL at the sheer idiocy of it all
saddened by the hypocrisey of it all ::)
we gave up talking real issues years before Obama took office.... Rightwingers insisted on it... Hey, I didn't set the trend... lol...
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Hi anti Christian bigot.A fool that voted for a man that sat in a black seperatist church calling anyone else psycho.Hello pot meet kettle.
what? Psycho-blimp?
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to me... as long as she's never tried (or will try) to legislate morality, I don't care if she thinks masturbation is a sin. What a person does in their own bedroom is their business.
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we gave up talking real issues years before Obama took office.... Rightwingers insisted on it... Hey, I didn't set the trend... lol...
LOL ya youre right those palin threads during the election sure were relevant right?
noticed you seem to move alot of threads off this board these days...funny how you didnt move a single one about palin and her baby or her supposed cheating... :-X
youre getting back to your old ways huggy :'(
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we gave up talking real issues years before Obama took office.... Rightwingers insisted on it... Hey, I didn't set the trend... lol...
::) ::)
Moron. most of the fools on this board were in a frenzy over Palins' kids and you did not say a word about it.
and bTW, many of us have been screaming about issue after issue after issue from day one, its only that the fools who voted for obama are so embarassed and shocked at how bad a choice they made that they really have nothing left to say.
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LOL ya youre right those palin threads during the election sure were relevant right?
noticed you seem to move alot of threads off this board these days...funny how you didnt move a single one about palin and her baby or her supposed cheating... :-X
youre getting back to your old ways huggy :'(
your "base it all on" is over 240's palin threads during the election? That set the country into negative motion? lol
Tony, love ya for being a Texans fan and hating on the steelers... can't say much else but that's all that should matter anyway ;D
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to me... as long as she's never tried (or will try) to legislate morality, I don't care if she thinks masturbation is a sin. What a person does in their own bedroom is their business.
Exactly 240.
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we gave up talking real issues years before Obama took office.... Rightwingers insisted on it... Hey, I didn't set the trend... lol...
Yeah,talking about Obama believing in black seperation wasnt an issue.It was simply race baiting.Who cares if he was in a church that was based on a book called BLACK POWER/BLACK theology.Much more important to know how much republicans spent on Palins clothes.
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Exactly 240.
Unless it deals with Palins' family.
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Unless it deals with Palins' family.
;D
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Unless it deals with Palins' family.
she is the one that brough her family into the public discourse. I would totally be with you on this but if you're the one making your family an issue first, then it's stupid to call foul when the piranha attack.
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she is the one that brough her family into the public discourse. I would totally be with you on this but if you're the one making your family an issue first, then it's stupid to call foul when the piranha attack.
No, i'm calling you out x 1,000,000 on your statement that no one wants to talk about issues.
That is utter crap and endless threads have been posted on the obamacare, cap & trade, stim bill, amnesty for illegals, terror trials in NYC, etc etc.
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i saw this online today ...“Wait, Christine O’Donnell is 41 and has never been married? Does that mean she’s a 41 year-old virgin who’s never masturbated?!”... ;D ;D ;D
Nope.
she told the Delaware News Journal in April 2004, she did things she now regrets. As the News Journal put it, those things were "drinking too much and having sex with guys with whom there wasn't a strong emotional connection."
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/09/christine_odonnells_sexual_evolution.php
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Nope.
she did things she now regrets. As the News Journal put it, those things were "drinking too much and having sex with guys with whom there wasn't a strong emotional connection."
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/09/christine_odonnells_sexual_evolution.php
Ok, so now we know she's human....glad to hear that.
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God forbid someone not be a robotic communist/socialist and actually have some flaws and be human. No, the far left can't accept anyone that isnt part of the Ivory Tower Mandarins who issue edicts on how to live from far up high.
I like ODonnell, Palin, Paladino, and all of these new people who show the normal human condition of most people and are not professional slimebag hack politicians like Obama, Bush, Kerry, Gore, McConnel, et al.
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No, i'm calling you out x 1,000,000 on your statement that no one wants to talk about issues.
That is utter crap and endless threads have been posted on the obamacare, cap & trade, stim bill, amnesty for illegals, terror trials in NYC, etc etc.
"talking" about the issue is impossible with you
it would be like trying to have a rational discussion about Islam with Osama
your idea of talking is to rant about communism and all kinds of other nonsese and then get upset if anyone disagrees with you.
it's pointless.....other than for entertainment value
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Ok, so now we know she's human....glad to hear that.
Looks like she was sexually promiscuous in her youth, saw the consequences with that lifestyle and now she is for abstinence. Nothing wrong with that!
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your "base it all on" is over 240's palin threads during the election? That set the country into negative motion? lol
Tony, love ya for being a Texans fan and hating on the steelers... can't say much else but that's all that should matter anyway ;D
lol i just find it quite hypocritical of you is all, I remember your responses to my points about the palin threads(and it wasnt just 240 but he was the closest thing to the BF threads that youve moved) was that the board regulates itself...if ppl dont think its a good or worthy topic they dont post in the thread and it falls down....
have you changed your views on moderating?
I do hate the steelers but I have to root for them this week b/c they are playing the titans and i picked up rapelisburger for my fantasy team...this season may leave a bad taste in my mouth ;D
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"talking" about the issue is impossible with you
it would be like trying to have a rational discussion about Islam with Osama
your idea of talking is to rant about communism and all kinds of other nonsese and then get upset if anyone disagrees with you.
it's pointless.....other than for entertainment value
::) ::)
Yeah, go try to attempt a defense of Obama in the other thread where you were again owned and destroyed.
Its also hard to have a conversation with someone like yourself who refuses to akconlwdge even the most basic of facts when presented to you.
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God forbid someone not be a robotic communist/socialist and actually have some flaws and be human. No, the far left can't accept anyone that isnt part of the Ivory Tower Mandarins who issue edicts on how to live from far up high.
I like ODonnell, Palin, Paladino, and all of these new people who show the normal human condition of most people and are not professional slimebag hack politicians like Obama, Bush, Kerry, Gore, McConnel, et al.
LoL - this is HILARIOUS coming from you
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lol i just find it quite hypocritical of you is all, I remember your responses to my points about the palin threads(and it wasnt just 240 but he was the closest thing to the BF threads that youve moved) was that the board regulates itself...if ppl dont think its a good or worthy topic they dont post in the thread and it falls down....
have you changed your views on moderating?
I do hate the steelers but I have to root for them this week b/c they are playing the titans and i picked up rapelisburger for my fantasy team...this season may leave a bad taste in my mouth ;D
you've just quoted Ozmo on modding the board. go ahead and search it. You'll find that it's Ozmo that said that, not me. "The board regulates itself" is Ozmo, not me.... I never said that.... In fact he has repeated that several times so it shouldn't be hard to find.
don't worry, this season will be a massive failure for the steelers and the Texans will do well even if they don't make it to the superbowl. You got a good team down there ;)
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Wow. I don't know about this woman. She doesn't advocate masturbation. How can she possibly be depended upon to represent her consitutents in DC? ::)
It is also unlikely that she would vote for another tax payer funded African genital washing stimulus package Straw. Is that why you don't like her?
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Wow. I don't know about this woman. She doesn't advocate masturbation. How can she possibly be depended upon to represent her consitutents in DC? ::)
It is also unlikely that she would vote for another tax payer funded African genital washing stimulus package Straw. Is that why you don't like her?
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shut up post whore ;D
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shut up post whore ;D
GW makes the best post by far.
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you've just quoted Ozmo on modding the board. go ahead and search it. You'll find that it's Ozmo that said that, not me. "The board regulates itself" is Ozmo, not me.... I never said that.... In fact he has repeated that several times so it shouldn't be hard to find.
don't worry, this season will be a massive failure for the steelers and the Texans will do well even if they don't make it to the superbowl. You got a good team down there ;)
LOL im not worried about it enough to search for it but im sure it was you that said those things to me, maybe you were reiterating they way you all feel the board should be run...but i didnt have the convesations with oz i had them with you since you were the most active mod at that time.
I agree, i fear the titans will win this week which isnt horrible i guess as I dont think their team is all that great but I still want to see a division team lose.
I agree if we can stay healthy we should do well this season, finally ;D
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LOL im not worried about it enough to search for it but im sure it was you that said those things to me, maybe you were reiterating they way you all feel the board should be run...but i didnt have the convesations with oz i had them with you since you were the most active mod at that time.
I agree, i fear the titans will win this week which isnt horrible i guess as I dont think their team is all that great but I still want to see a division team lose.
I agree if we can stay healthy we should do well this season, finally ;D
No, I am not the one that said the board regulates itself, that's Ozmo, not me. Of course bb also agrees with that but the only time I've ever heard "the board regulates itself" is from Ozmo... I bet it's even in some of my pm's from him but I can't share those. It must me on the board somwhere. I don't ever remember saying anything like that.
I just searched under my name, I've never said anything like that. If you can prove I did, i will admit it an appologize. I'm sure that statement is from Ozmo, not me...
If the broncos don't do well, I'll be rooting for you.
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No, I am not the one that said the board regulates itself, that's Ozmo, not me. Of course bb also agrees with that but the only time I've ever heard "the board regulates itself" is from Ozmo... I bet it's even in some of my pm's from him but I can't share those. It must me on the board somwhere. I don't ever remember saying anything like that.
I just searched under my name, I've never said anything like that. If you can prove I did, i will admit it an appologize. I'm sure that statement is from Ozmo, not me...
If the broncos don't do well, I'll be rooting for you.
LOL its not enough of a concern to sift through all my posts just thought it was funny.
I was rooting for you guys last week against jacksonville...
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Wow. I don't know about this woman. She doesn't advocate masturbation. How can she possibly be depended upon to represent her consitutents in DC? ::)
It is also unlikely that she would vote for another tax payer funded African genital washing stimulus package Straw. Is that why you don't like her?
I never said I didn't like her just that she seems nutty
I only learned about some of her beliefs last night.
The republican party and her own former campaign manager seem to think she's some kind of fraud
She was supposedly a "full time" abstinence advocate (probably being paid by one of Bush's faith based agenda's)
I don't live in CT and if the majority of the people in her state want her to be Senate then so be it
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I never said I didn't like her just that she seems nutty
I only learned about some of her beliefs last night.
The republican party and her own former campaign manager seem to think she's some kind of fraud
She was supposedly a "full time" abstinence advocate (probably being paid by one of Bush's faith based agenda's)
I don't live in CT and if the majority of the people in her state want her to be Senate then so be it
She is in delaware Straw - smarten up dude.
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Hi anti Christian bigot.A fool that voted for a man that sat in a black seperatist church calling anyone else psycho.Hello pot meet kettle.
Hello IDIOT... you are the last to talk about Biblical sin...are you still shooting your ass up with steroids? what the Bible calls defiling your temple? Are you still ILLEGALLY obtaining these drugs or Pharmacia as the Bible speaks of and selling them to others who will become addicted as you are? Are you still unconcerned for the possible damage and/or even DEATH you may cause by engaging in the sale of these narcotics which in many cases are FAKE and cause everything from embolism to massive infection in the user and subsequently their death?
You're really a piece of work QUEEN MIMNAUGH
BTW I guess you did not read the 19th chapter of Genesis and the 1st chapter of Romans concerning homosexuals. Seems the Arabs got their belief system from the Bible and the Christians in regards to killing (stoning or burning ) homosexuals. Oh and if you wonder if God hates them as well, read about Sodom and Gommorah which was burned BEYOND incineration due to homosexuality.
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LOL its not enough of a concern to sift through all my posts just thought it was funny.
I was rooting for you guys last week against jacksonville...
thanks. I was pretty happy with the way the broncos played even though they lost. The Texans are looking good imo.
I know you think otherwise, but I know those are not my words. I have heard ozmo say that, but I didn't.
I can say that at the very start of the board that was my hopes for the board. I had hoped for the board to just go along without any need for mods to do anything. that would be great if it were to happen that way but there's no way that's possible as several have obviously illustrated over the years...
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She just raised over $1 Million in a day.
www.christine2010.com
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Oh brother. The woman talks about sexual purity and sex within the confines of marriage. How terrible. ::)
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Hello IDIOT... you are the last to talk about Biblical sin...are you still shooting your ass up with steroids? what the Bible calls defiling your temple? Are you still ILLEGALLY obtaining these drugs or Pharmacia as the Bible speaks of and selling them to others who will become addicted as you are? Are you still unconcerned for the possible damage and/or even DEATH you may cause by engaging in the sale of these narcotics which in many cases are FAKE and cause everything from embolism to massive infection in the user and subsequently their death?
You're really a piece of work QUEEN MIMNAUGH
BTW I guess you did not read the 19th chapter of Genesis and the 1st chapter of Romans concerning homosexuals. Seems the Arabs got their belief system from the Bible and the Christians in regards to killing (stoning or burning ) homosexuals. Oh and if you wonder if God hates them as well, read about Sodom and Gommorah which was burned BEYOND incineration due to homosexuality.
Hello you ignorant black idiot.Can you please tell me when I ever said I was a Christian, or followed the tenants of Christianity.Please show that post.As usual,you dont have a clue of what your talking about.
Number two,I get steroids legally,however,there is ZERO chance of death or any injury from the use of steroids.This is a myth made up by morons like you who think 911 was an inside job.Ive taken steroids for twenty years,anytime you want to compare your blood work to mine Id be happy to.I mean Im sure eating fried chicken four times a day along with your government cheese has your blood as thick as maple syrup.
So,lets go over your post.I have NEVER said I was a Christian or followed the tenants of Christianity,so you have made an ass of yourself.I get my drugs legally ,perscribed by doctors[just got a new scrip for flexoril].So,thats two facts you were 100% wrong on.I dont have to sell drugs,my wife and I make about 125,000 grand a year by working actuall jobs,something you blacks dont know about.Lastly,there have been ZERO deaths EVER caused by the use of steroids.Stop reading dumb ass lib magazines,its making you stupid.
In conclusion,your post,as usual,is the rambling of an ignorant black fool who posts on a bodybuilding site but doiesnt lift weights.Filled with stupidity and zero facts.Keep trying though,one day you may actually post something that makes sense.
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Oh brother. The woman talks about sexual purity and sex within the confines of marriage. How terrible. ::)
The left hates these women like Palin, Angle, oDonnel, Hailey, Linda, Carley, et al who will take out the communist trash if elected.
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The left hates these women like Palin, Angle, oDonnel, Hailey, Linda, Carley, et al who will take out the communist trash if elected.
It's almost like people are afraid of outside the beltway folks getting into public office. I'm all for anti-establishment candidates shaking things up. No more business as usual. Get people in there who understand the government runs on our money.
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It's almost like people are afraid of outside the beltway folks getting into public office. I'm all for anti-establishment candidates shaking things up. No more business as usual. Get people in there who understand the government runs on our money.
Exactly. if the past two years are not enough to show how bad these professional pols are, nothing will.
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The left hates these women like Palin, Angle, oDonnel, Hailey, Linda, Carley, et al who will take out the communist trash if elected.
Actually seems like the established "right" are the ones that hate them and certainly the ones that feel threatened by them.
The left is just sitting back and watching and hopefully being cautious.
I think the left would much rather go against a wack job than a measured, rational and moderate republican
It's not likely that nut job radical religious types will be able to win a general election (this is something that both people on the left and right know)
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BB, do you think choking the chicken is a bad thing?
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It's almost like people are afraid of outside the beltway folks getting into public office. I'm all for anti-establishment candidates shaking things up. No more business as usual. Get people in there who understand the government runs on our money.
Obama liked talking about Washington insiders when he was campaigning. Now he is one. He is going to get crushed in 2012.
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I don't know about O'Donnell. But considering Adonis' ugly mug, he must have some serious blisters on his right hand.
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Actually seems like the established "right" are the ones that hate them and certainly the ones that feel threatened by them.
The left is just sitting back and watching and hopefully being cautious.
I think the left would much rather go against a wack job than a measured, rational and moderate republican
It's not likely that nut job radical religious types will be able to win a general election (this is something that both people on the left and right know)
Yes, and those RINO establishment hacks need to be shown the door as well.
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BB, do you think choking the chicken is a bad thing?
240, do you believe Timothy McVeigh was not really executed?
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240 - if you had to vote for Coons or O'Donnell who would you vote for and why?
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Actually seems like the established "right" are the ones that hate them and certainly the ones that feel threatened by them.
The left is just sitting back and watching and hopefully being cautious.
I think the left would much rather go against a wack job than a measured, rational and moderate republican
It's not likely that nut job radical religious types will be able to win a general election (this is something that both people on the left and right know)
No they wouldnt.They say that but are scared to death of the right.Remember,conservatism never loses on ballots.Gay Mariage has been crushed 31 out of 31 times.The country is against obama care.Libs would never allow abortion to come up for a vote.The left pretends they are concerned with the direction of republicans but love it when they can run against McCAIN.
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No they wouldnt.They say that but are scared to death of the right.Remember,conservatism never loses on ballots.Gay Mariage has been crushed 31 out of 31 times.The country is against obama care.Libs would never allow abortion to come up for a vote.The left pretends they are concerned with the direction of republicans but love it when they can run against McCAIN.
I'm not exactly sure what you're saying here
what does the "no they wouldn't" refer to?
I think the left would be smart to be cautious about the teaparty.
It's certainly possible for fringe radicals to be elected during tough economic times but I don't think the current batch of teabaggers will have much chance in the general election (with the exception of Brewer who is no less nutty than any of the other ones but she's the incumbent)
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240, do you believe Timothy McVeigh was not really executed?
of course he was.
Now that I answered your Q.... LMAO.... you're not gonna answer mine. You REALLY think the earth was created 5,000 years ago, don't you? You think people and dinosaurs walked together? You think it all came together in 7 days.
Oh man, this is awesome.
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Creationism, while I don't agree with it, isn't the least bit dangerous. If someone wants to believe it, so be it. It's not like they're going to start chopping heads off and blowing up women and children like a certain other ideology if someone disagrees with them.
I don't see how it's any different from you believing in a heavenly body, 240.
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It's amusing that some people look at dinosaur fossils or carbon dating or, say, things like the planets and the moon - and believe they were created in 6 days. It's like... if they are that deficient in science - and that willing to be completely blind to a mountain of science...
They remind me of the people who locked up Galileo for saying the Earth wasn't the center of the universe. It's just so funny.
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of course he was.
Now that I answered your Q.... LMAO.... you're not gonna answer mine. You REALLY think the earth was created 5,000 years ago, don't you? You think people and dinosaurs walked together? You think it all came together in 7 days.
Oh man, this is awesome.
Liar.
No. I simply stated that two of the ten witnesses said in interviews that oddly, McVeigh was still breathing when they closed the curtain, AFTER he had been declared dead.
You can take this info as you wish.
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It's amusing that some people look at dinosaur fossils or carbon dating or, say, things like the planets and the moon - and believe they were created in 6 days. It's like... if they are that deficient in science - and that willing to be completely blind to a mountain of science...
They remind me of the people who locked up Galileo for saying the Earth wasn't the center of the universe. It's just so funny.
As funny as people who think some omnipotent heavenly body created the universe out of nothing. ;)
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i think some power created graviy which caused big bang, yes. i sure dont claim to ynderstand that power.
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I'm not exactly sure what you're saying here
what does the "no they wouldn't" refer to?
I think the left would be smart to be cautious about the teaparty.
It's certainly possible for fringe radicals to be elected during tough economic times but I don't think the current batch of teabaggers will have much chance in the general election (with the exception of Brewer who is no less nutty than any of the other ones but she's the incumbent)
Once again,its funny to me that you use the term "nutty" to describe conservatives but dont think its the slightest bit nutty to sit in a church for twenty years and listen to a guy preach black seperatism.Nothing nutty about that at all.
How about Pelosi talking about her favorite word "which is The Word".Or John Lewis lying saying he was spit and called a black by tea party people but cant produce one bit of proof.
The nuts and kooks are on the left.Stuff like projects for teaching African men to wash their genitals come from the left.
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I'm not exactly sure what you're saying here
what does the "no they wouldn't" refer to?
I think the left would be smart to be cautious about the teaparty.
It's certainly possible for fringe radicals to be elected during tough economic times but I don't think the current batch of teabaggers will have much chance in the general election (with the exception of Brewer who is no less nutty than any of the other ones but she's the incumbent)
Fringe radicals? You consider adherence to the constitution to be radical? ha, ha
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I find it utterly hysterical that the far left are mocking her over her personal views yet are saying nothing about Obama spending $823,000 of taxpayer dollars to teach Africans how to wash their nuts after sex.
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Yet the Liberals had no problem with these quotes from Obama:
From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's
race.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'There was something about her that made me wary, a little too sure of herself, maybe and white..
From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses,
to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself: the attributes of Martin and Malcolm,
DuBois and Mandela.'
From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
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Yet the Liberals had no problem with these quotes from Obama:
From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's
race.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'There was something about her that made me wary, a little too sure of herself, maybe and white..
From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses,
to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself: the attributes of Martin and Malcolm,
DuBois and Mandela.'
From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
RACIST!
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Yet the Liberals had no problem with these quotes from Obama:
From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's
race.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'There was something about her that made me wary, a little too sure of herself, maybe and white..
From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses,
to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself: the attributes of Martin and Malcolm,
DuBois and Mandela.'
From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
Jesus FUCKING Christ why are you still perpetuating debunked lies of 2007/2008? I cannot stand when people are so insanely ignorant.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/print_did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html
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No. A widely circulated e-mail fabricates some quotes from Obama's books and twists others.
Anyone looking for Barack Obama's real sentiments about whites, blacks and Muslims won't find them in this scurrilous collection of falsified, doctored and context-free "quotations." The e-mail claims to feature words taken from Obama's books, "The Audacity of Hope" (2006) and "Dreams from My Father" (1995, republished in 2004). But we found that two of the quotes are false, and others have been manipulated or taken out of context.
We have received many inquiries about this from readers whose suspicions were aroused, with good reason. Aside from the fact that the e-mail incorrectly cites the title of Obama's book as "Dreams of My Father," rather than "Dreams from My Father," you may have noticed that none of the quotes in this e-mail contain page references. This should be a sign to any reader that the author is trying to pull a fast one, betting that you won't take the time to read through all 806 pages of Obama's books to get to the facts.
False Quotes
We'll take these supposed Obama quotes one at a time, starting with the ones that are simply false. The first has Obama confessing to a "sense of grievance" and "animosity" toward whites.
Misleading e-mail: From Dreams of My Father : "I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race."
Actual quote from "Dreams from My Father": Nothing like this quote appears in Obama's books.
The Obama campaign states that this quote does not appear in Obama's book "Dreams from My Father." We carefully looked through that book, as well as "The Audacity of Hope," and found nothing similar. The popular urban legends reference site Snopes.com comes to the same conclusion. Snopes also notes that a similar quote does appear in an unfavorable review of "Dreams from My Father" that was published in the March 2007 issue of The American Conservative. But the words are those of the reviewer, Steve Sailer, not Obama.
Steve Sailer: He inherited his father’s penetrating intelligence; was raised mostly by his loving liberal white grandparents in multiracial, laid-back Hawaii, where America’s normal race rules never applied; and received a superb private school education. And yet, at least through age 33 when he wrote Dreams from My Father, he found solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against his mother’s race.
We find that this e-mail takes the personal opinion of a conservative author and falsely presents it as a confession by Obama.
A second false quote has Obama saying he would "stand with the Muslims," words that don't appear in his book. What he actually said is that he would stand with American immigrants from Pakistan or Arab countries should they be faced with something like the forced detention of Japanese-American families in World War II:
Misleading e-mail: From Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
Actual quote from "The Audacity of Hope" [pg. 261]: Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
Obama did not say he would side with "the Muslims," which could easily be read as meaning he would side with the world's Muslim population even if it meant working outside the best interests of the United States. He said he would side with "them," referring back to his mention of immigrant communities and specifically to "Arab and Pakistani Americans." Furthermore, he was speaking of an "ugly direction" like the mass internment of Japanese Americans.
This false quote goes hand in hand with the equally false rumor that Obama is a Muslim.
Doctored Quotes
We next turn to a quote that is manipulated to make it sound as though Obama is saying he would "never emulate" a white man, when he was actually describing a personal struggle to come to terms with his own mixed-race ancestry, and the failings of blacks and whites alike.
Misleading e-mail: From Dreams of My Father: "I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, Dubois and Mandela."
Actual quote from "Dreams from My Father" [pg. 220]: Yes, I'd seen weakness in other men - Gramps and his disappointments, Lolo and his compromise. But these men had become object lessons for me, men I might love but never emulate, white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela. And if later I saw that the black men I knew - Frank or Ray or Will or Rafiq - fell short of such lofty standards; if I had learned to respect these men for the struggles they went through, recognizing them as my own - my father's voice had nevertheless remained untainted, inspiring, rebuking, granting or withholding approval. You do not work hard enough, Barry. You must help in your people's struggle. Wake up, black man!
The e-mail cuts out important words, changing the quote's meaning. Gone is the notion that he "might love" white or brown men. Gone also is that Obama was speaking not of white or brown men generally, but specifically about "these men," his white, maternal grandfather Stanley Dunham and his Indonesian stepfather Lolo Soetoro. The doctored quote makes it appear as though Obama said he would never emulate any white or brown man, based on their race.
Gone as well is Obama's admission that his black friends sometimes "fell short of [the] lofty standards" of black role models like Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela.
Another doctored quote is trimmed to make Obama sound as though he is wary of working for a white man because of his race, when Obama actually wrote that the "problem" of race had been raised by the man himself.
Misleading e-mail: From Dreams of My Father: "There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white."
Actual quote from "Dreams from My Father" [pgs. 141-142]: Now he was trying to pull urban blacks and suburban whites together around a plan to save manufacturing jobs in metropolitan Chicago. He needed somebody to work with him, he said. Somebody black. ...
He offered to start me off at ten thousand dollars the first year, with a two-thousand-dollar travel allowance to buy a car; the salary would go up if things worked out. After he was gone, I took the long way home, along the East River promenade, and tried to figure out what to make of the man. He was smart, I decided. He seemed committed to his work. Still, there was something about him that made me wary. A little too sure of himself, maybe. And white - he'd said himself that that was a problem.
The e-mail's edited quote makes it appear as if Obama is left with an unfavorable opinion of someone based on race. The full quote shows that Obama's mention of Marty Kaufman's race is made only after Kaufman raises it as a potential problem in light of his consideration to hire Obama for a job on a community organizing drive.
Obama took the job. "Kaufman" is actually a pseudonym. Obama told Chicago Sun-Times reporter Lynn Sweet that the man's real name was Gerald Kellman, who was Obama's boss at his first job in Chicago as a community organizer at the Calumet Community Religious Conference. Obama worked for him for three years before going on to law school. Kellman has said of Obama: "One of the remarkable things is how well he listens to people who are opposed to him."
Context, Please
Other quotes in the e-mail are offered without their full context, which we offer here.
Misleading e-mail: From Dreams of My Father: "I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."
Actual quote from "Dreams from My Father" [pg. xv]: When people who don't know me well, black or white, discover my background (and it is usually a discovery, for I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of twelve or thirteen, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites), I see the split-second adjustments they have to make, the searching of my eyes for some telltale sign. They no longer know who I am. Privately, they guess at my troubled heart, I suppose - the mixed blood, the divided soul, the ghostly image of the tragic mulatto trapped between two worlds. And if I were to explain that no, the tragedy is not mine, or at least not mine alone, it is yours, sons and daughters of Plymouth Rock and Ellis Island, it is yours, children of Africa, it is the tragedy of both my wife's six-year-old cousin and his white first grade classmates, so that you need not guess at what troubles me, it's on the nightly news for all to see, and that if we could acknowledge at least that much then the tragic cycle begins to break down...well, I suspect that I sound incurably naive, wedded to lost hopes, like those Communists who peddle their newspapers on the fringes of various college towns. Or worse, I sound like I'm trying to hide from myself.
On its own, the quote can be interpreted as Obama rejecting his white heritage and, by extension, the entire white population. But, in full context, the statement is part of Obama's assessment of "black or white" individuals' first impressions of him as a person of mixed race.
And finally ...
Misleading e-mail: From Dreams of My Father : ; "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."
Actual quote from "Dreams from My Father" [pg. 100-101]: To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night, in the dorms, we discussed necolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling constraints. We weren't indifferent or careless or insecure. We were alienated. But this strategy alone couldn't provide the distance I wanted, from Joyce or my past. After all, there were thousands of so-called campus radicals, most of them white and tenured and happily tolerated. No, it remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.
On its own, the quote makes Obama appear racially militant. Whereas, in full context, the quote illustrates Obama's confusion over his race and cultural heritage. This is emphasized in the preceding paragraph, where Obama describes himself as someone compensating for insecurity in his "racial credentials."
- Emi Kolawole and Brooks Jackson
Sources
Obama, Barack. The Audacity of Hope. New York: Crown Publishers, 2006.
Obama, Barack. Dreams from My Father. New York: Crown Publishers, 2004.
Sailer, Steve. "Obama's Identity Crisis." The American Conservative. 26 Mar. 2007.
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RACIST!
And then fools lineup to readily believe a complete myth.
It is sublimely pathetic. :-\
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And then fools lineup to readily believe a complete myth.
It is sublimely pathetic. :-\
So one quote is wrong and the others are completely correct?
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So one quote is wrong and the others are completely correct?
All of them are fabricated. It is from a debunked Chain Mail. I am really at a loss as to why people cannot understand fact from fiction. The very definition of insanity is even when shown the facts and proven wrong, one goes on believing it regardless. That is insane.
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All of them are fabricated. It is from a debunked Chain Mail. I am really at a loss as to why people cannot understand fact from fiction. The very definition of insanity is even when shown the facts and proven wrong, one goes on believing it regardless. That is insane.
Here is the problem TA, his actions, his appointments, his contemporaneous statements, his policies, etc etc all make these things very easily believeable.
Did you read the story by Dinesh DSouza in Forbes? Why do you think the WH came out ballistic on that? Answer> they knew a direct torpedo hit the SS Obama and its taking on water.
I know you loved the guy and fell for the whole schtick, etc etc, but wake up already, this jerk in the WH is not the guy you think you voted for.
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All of them are fabricated. It is from a debunked Chain Mail. I am really at a loss as to why people cannot understand fact from fiction. The very definition of insanity is even when shown the facts and proven wrong, one goes on believing it regardless. That is insane.
How is that changey hopey thing working for the country? Is the unemployment rate under 8% yet? Why was $111 million of stimulus money spent in CA only to save 55 jobs? Do you still believe that Obamacare is going to reduce insurance premiums?
Obama=FAILURE
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How is that changey hopey thing working for the country? Is the unemployment rate under 8% yet? Why was $111 million of stimulus money spent in CA only to save 55 jobs? Do you still believe that Obamacare is going to reduce insurance premiums?
Obama=FAILURE
The only solution to Healthcare is Single Payer. No Insurance companies necessary. ConservaDems and Republicans don`t see anything wrong with our current failing system so this is what we will have for who knows when.
The Healthcare bill changes nothing really from what you had under Bush or Reagan, so I don`t know what you are bitching about.
I am more unhappy with it than you are.
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The only solution to Healthcare is Single Payer. No Insurance companies necessary. ConservaDems and Republicans don`t see anything wrong with our current failing system so this is what we will have for who knows when.
The Healthcare bill changes nothing really from what you had under Bush or Reagan, so I don`t know what you are bitching about.
I am more unhappy with it than you are.
Really? We only got this stupid bill because Kucinish cracked under pressure and Dems were too afraid to stand up to the party leaders to expose just what a rip off this is.
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Really? We only got this stupid bill because Kucinish cracked under pressure and Dems were too afraid to stand up to the party leaders to expose just what a rip off this is.
Kucinich knew Doing nothing would have resulted in more death and wasted money. At least some lives will be saved, some costs mitigated and care for Pre Existing conditions cannot be denied.
Doing nothing would have been worse.
Single Payer was not even allowed on the table for discussion due to ConservaDems and Republicans.
The country is too stupid to realize that Health Insurance Companies are the real enemy and as long as they are front and center, our healthcare system will continue to be abysmal.
Don`t worry, the Healthcare Bill did not change anything for you or anyone else who already had Insurance. So stop whining.
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Kucinich knew Doing nothing would have resulted in more death and wasted money. At least some lives will be saved, some costs mitigated and care for Pre Existing conditions cannot be denied.
Doing nothing would have been worse.
Single Payer was not even allowed on the table for discussion due to ConservaDems and Republicans.
The country is too stupid to realize that Health Insurance Companies are the real enemy and as long as they are front and center, our healthcare system will continue to be abysmal.
Don`t worry, the Healthcare Bill did not change anything for you or anyone else who already had Insurance. So stop whining.
wrong - my premiuims are jumping EVEN HIGHER than if nothing were done. additionally, there is now the 1099 reporting requirement I have to comply with which will cost me a lot in time, aggravation, with the accountant.
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wrong - my premiuims are jumping EVEN HIGHER than if nothing were done. additionally, there is now the 1099 reporting requirement I have to comply with which will cost me a lot in time, aggravation, with the accountant.
Your Private Insurance controls that aspect of it. Guess what is going to happen as long as you keep supporting Private Health Insurance companies? They will keep rising. Get used to it. They need to be profitable as their goal is to make money on suffering. It does them no good to pay out more money they take in.
Keep on supporting The Health Insurance Industry like the Democrats, ConservaDems, Republicans and the Tea Party loonies and this is what you will get. One day you will realize that Single Payer is THE ONLY solution. The rest of the civilized world gets it. Who knows when our country will.
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Your Private Insurance controls that aspect of it. Guess what is going to happen as long as you keep supporting Private Health Insurance companies? They will keep rising. Get used to it. They need to be profitable as their goal is to make money on suffering. It does them no good to pay out more money they take in.
Keep on supporting The Health Insurance Industry like the Democrats, ConservaDems, Republicans and the Tea Party loonies and this is what you will get. One day you will realize that Single Payer is THE ONLY solution. The rest of the civilized world gets it. Who knows when our country will.
Are you drunk today?
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Are you drunk today?
No, but my mouth is on fire from some Nashville Hot Chicken I battered and Fried. Luckily I made a chocolate Malt Shake to cool it down.
Hopefully there won`t be a war on food from the Republicans or the Democrats or I will have to then take up arms.
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Keep on supporting The Health Insurance Industry like the Democrats, ConservaDems, Republicans and the Tea Party loonies and this is what you will get. One day you will realize that Single Payer is THE ONLY solution. The rest of the civilized world gets it. Who knows when our country will.
I would go a step further than a single payer system and have no health insurance at all. If you have a single payer system, the employee will have to contribute to the insurance pool, just as you do now. It's true that insurance companies will be out of the picture, but you are still eliminating the element of personal responsibility. I like the idea of eliminating insurance companies, taking the burden off employers and putting personal responsibility on the consumer.
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No, but my mouth is on fire from some Nashville Hot Chicken I battered and Fried. Luckily I made a chocolate Malt Shake to cool it down.
Hopefully there won`t be a war on food from the Republicans or the Democrats or I will have to then take up arms.
When they come for our BBQ.....it's ON !!!!!!