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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: MindSpin on September 20, 2010, 08:35:55 AM
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(http://i27.tinypic.com/2jaaiic.jpg)
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=348777.0;attach=383091;image)
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MindSpin - as a mod, are you not concerned about liability for defamation for making such claims about people?
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that's MINDSPIN Brother?
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MindSpin - as a mod, are you not concerned about liability for defamation for making such claims about people?
what? they gonna take away his post count or sumthin?
i mean really. no liability what so ever. it's all on ron if anyone
i respect the guys deadlifting and grip strength but otherwise,
all drugs and faggotry bodybuilding
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this looks like his best shape ever
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Guy makes Phil Heath look wider than a house.
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Not at all. I know for a fact that he is on gear, which is why he'l never bring this to court.
How so?
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who is he?
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Not at all. I know for a fact that he is on gear, which is why he'l never bring this to court.
...you just broke my record for being a broken record on the same basic post(s) on drug use in BB. :D
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Not at all. I know for a fact that he is on gear, which is why he'l never bring this to court.
::) Of course you do.....
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im guessing its that layne norton dude
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Bob Chick really loves Layne Norton. They used to profess their love for each other on the BB.com forums everyday.
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im guessing its that layne norton dude
You are correct sir! Why they keep busting this guys balls is beyond me.
He either shot someone's dog or screwed their girlfriend. LOL hehehe
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Bob Chick really loves Layne Norton. They used to profess their love for each other on the BB.com forums everyday.
and I love both of them...get Basille on baord and GOD willing, we can have a "foursome" ;)
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Not at all. I know for a fact that he is on gear, which is why he'l never bring this to court.
And even if you are wrong, its just your "opinion" anyways, so it doesnt matter in the least.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=348777.0;attach=383091;image)
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get over the owning layne gave you when you wrote for bodybuilding.com, it's been what 6 years now ::)
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get over the owning layne gave you when you wrote for bodybuilding.com, it's been what 6 years now ::)
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What ownage? I havent heard about this.
Details please!
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Guy makes Phil Heath look wider than a house.
LMAO ;D
Norton's a "beast" at what-210 lbs? Natural bodybuilding is for guys with bad response to hormones (here's a prime example)
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Layne Norton: MattC FleshlightTM
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get over the owning layne gave you when you wrote for bodybuilding.com, it's been what 6 years now ::)
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Uh? Care to enlighten me? I've never written for bbing.com, I've never been on a threat discussion with Layne and I've only posted twice on bbing.com.
Talk about self ownage ::)
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=348777.0;attach=383091;image)
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He's a pretty sexy beefcake...might let him take an MOS lapride and then aggresively pants me.
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Uh? Care to enlighten me? I've never written for bbing.com, I've never been on a threat discussion with Layne and I've only posted twice on bbing.com.
Talk about self ownage ::)
this isn't you?
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/reform16.htm
you've hated layne for years now, you go out of your way to put down his body while praising far inferior physiques
since you have written for bb.com (unless that is some other "yemeni mesa" that works for an ice cream company ::)) i think you met layne at an expo and he hurt your feelings, causing you to hold a grudge
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who care's if hes on drugs its his life.
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one says he's juiced to the gills - infering that he looks good due to drugs
another says "he doesnt' look good anyway" - as if they look better
wtf
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looks natural to me ??? looks 180lbs tops there
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How do you KNOW FOR SURE he is on Gear?
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Layne Norton: Matt C really wants to suck your cock.
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Not at all. I know for a fact that he is on gear, which is why he'l never bring this to court.
Thanks MindSpin - bear in mind though, that you "knowing he is on drugs" will not in itself be a sufficient defense if he decides to sue you, or Ron from GetBig.
Basically the procedure is that he would bring an action claiming that your statements and GetBig (as the publisher) have caused harm to his reputation and character. He would claim that as he is in the fitness industry, his financial losses caused by your claims are substantial, and also claim for hurt feelings, distress, legal costs, loss of future income, exemplary damages, etc etc. The onus then falls on you, to be able to prove the truth of your statements (and unless you can do that there is a presumption of guilt on your behalf).
I of course don't know who is right on this issue, and if he really is claiming to be nat when he's not, then good on you for exposing him, but just letting you know that you better have some pretty conclusive evidence to support your statements.
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Like has been said before- very few people match the hard work and consistency the guy has had over the years. So its notfair to compare him to other naturals based on his physique. Plus there's nothing that indicates that he's a liar, and he's pretty adamant about the fact that he is absolutely clean.
I'm afraid that people are either comparing him to other natural bb'ers with less work ethic/experience/genes (as stated above) or comparing him to their own physique. It's a common and great folly to underestimate others based on your own abilities/talents.
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one says he's juiced to the gills - infering that he looks good due to drugs
another says "he doesnt' look good anyway" - as if they look better
wtf
Typical getbig argument.
If you think he looks way better than yourself and you are not on drugs: he's on drugs.
If you think he looks way better than yourself and you are on drugs yourself: he has a swimmer's physique.
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Like has been said before- very few people match the hard work and consistency the guy has had over the years. So its notfair to compare him to other naturals based on his physique. Plus there's nothing that indicates that he's a liar, and he's pretty adamant about the fact that he is absolutely clean.
I'm afraid that people are either comparing him to other natural bb'ers with less work ethic/experience/genes (as stated above) or comparing him to their own physique. It's a common and great folly to underestimate others based on your own abilities/talents.
8500 posts on getbig, you see this pic and write this bullshit? Incredible.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=348777.0;attach=383091;image)
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Typical getbig argument.
If you think he looks way better than yourself and you are not on drugs: he's on drugs.
If you think he looks way better than yourself and you are on drugs yourself: he has a swimmer's physique.
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Something like that.
People are very inconsistent on this issue- you'll find the same person saying he has a horrible physique and later also that he's too big to be natural ;D
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Why is he standing in the lobby of the local community college with no shirt on?
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Thanks MindSpin - bear in mind though, that you "knowing he is on drugs" will not in itself be a sufficient defense if he decides to sue you, or Ron from GetBig.
Basically the procedure is that he would bring an action claiming that your statements and GetBig (as the publisher) have caused harm to his reputation and character. He would claim that as he is in the fitness industry, his financial losses caused by your claims are substantial, and also claim for hurt feelings, distress, legal costs, loss of future income, exemplary damages, etc etc. The onus then falls on you, to be able to prove the truth of your statements (and unless you can do that there is a presumption of guilt on your behalf).
I of course don't know who is right on this issue, and if he really is claiming to be nat when he's not, then good on you for exposing him, but just letting you know that you better have some pretty conclusive evidence to support your statements.
Still have to show where you were hurt financially by the specific actions (allegations)...pretty tough to do in this case.
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8500 posts on getbig, you see this pic and write this bullshit? Incredible.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=348777.0;attach=383091;image)
He's been working out for 10+ years consistently and has pretty good genetics for upper body. Not at all unbelievable that he's natural you german douche.
Plus a close up pic can be quite deceviging and make a person look bigger than they are. In other pics he doesn't look as big as he does there.
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He's been working out for 10+ years consistently and has pretty good genetics for upper body. Not at all unbelievable that he's natural you german douche.
Plus a close up pic can be quite deceviging and make a person look bigger than they are. In other pics he doesn't look as big as he does there.
Roid rage?
;D ;D
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Something like that.
People are very inconsistent on this issue- you'll find the same person saying he has a horrible physique and later also that he's too big to be natural ;D
Yes, it depends on if they are off or on themselves at the time of the post. ;D ;D
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Roid rage?
;D ;D
Yes, it depends on if they are off or on themselves at the time of the post. ;D ;D
no roid rage here, 21k+ posts and you think calling some one a douche on getbig is a big deal? lol! :P
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no roid rage here, 21k+ posts and you think calling some one a douche on getbig is a big deal? lol! :P
LOL, i was just trying to get you involved into the all drugs debate personally.
;D ;D ;D
As we have learned from gh15, EVERYONE is on drugs, even if you think you're not, and when you say you aren't you are lying, and if you say you are, you're still lying because you take at least double the amount.
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Layne Norton: MattC FleshlightTM
Layne Norton: Matt C really wants to suck your cock.
I'm straight but Layne honestly looks AMAZING! Did you see this picture?:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=348607.0;attach=383343;image
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=348607.0;attach=383343;image)
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LOL, i was just trying to get you involved into the all drugs debate personally.
;D ;D ;D
As we have learned from gh15, EVERYONE is on drugs, even if you think you're not, and when you say you aren't you are lying, and if you say you are, you're still lying because you take at least double the amount.
If everyone was on as many roids as GH15 claims, we would need as many roid factories as grocery stores.
Maybe the aliens abduct us and inject us in our sleep :o
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one says he's juiced to the gills - infering that he looks good due to drugs
another says "he doesnt' look good anyway" - as if they look better
wtf
I think he looks like shit even though he's using steroids. His genetics suck.
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I think he looks like shit even though he's using steroids. His genetics suck.
Mindspin, how do you know for a fact he's on drugs?PM me if you cant say it here.
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Thanks MindSpin - bear in mind though, that you "knowing he is on drugs" will not in itself be a sufficient defense if he decides to sue you, or Ron from GetBig.
Basically the procedure is that he would bring an action claiming that your statements and GetBig (as the publisher) have caused harm to his reputation and character. He would claim that as he is in the fitness industry, his financial losses caused by your claims are substantial, and also claim for hurt feelings, distress, legal costs, loss of future income, exemplary damages, etc etc. The onus then falls on you, to be able to prove the truth of your statements (and unless you can do that there is a presumption of guilt on your behalf).
I of course don't know who is right on this issue, and if he really is claiming to be nat when he's not, then good on you for exposing him, but just letting you know that you better have some pretty conclusive evidence to support your statements.
I'm familiar with the process. He will never sue. He knows better.
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If everyone was on as many roids as GH15 claims, we would need as many roid factories as grocery stores.
Maybe the aliens abduct us and inject us in our sleep :o
Howard, you and I are the same, always talking about how great using gear is and the crave to do it but never just getting on and staying on as we should. In the back of my mind somewhere I worry it is "unhealthy" but I have no evidence to suggest such a thing.
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Mindspin, how do you know for a fact he's on drugs?PM me if you cant say it here.
He doesnt....nor will he ever. Its what he THINKS he knows....which is a far cry from reality. Its amazing how one guy gets so many people worked up.
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He doesnt....nor will he ever. Its what he THINKS he knows....which is a far cry from reality. Its amazing how one guy gets so many people worked up.
I know for a fact that he had used PEDs
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I know for a fact that he had used PEDs
what about you tell us more once for all...
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Stop posting pics of TP...
they make me depressed. He looks like he ain't gonna make it.
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this isn't you?
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/reform16.htm
you've hated layne for years now, you go out of your way to put down his body while praising far inferior physiques
since you have written for bb.com (unless that is some other "yemeni mesa" that works for an ice cream company ::)) i think you met layne at an expo and he hurt your feelings, causing you to hold a grudge
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mindspin? :D
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Not at all. I know for a fact that he is on gear, which is why he'l never bring this to court.
How?
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Monster Asymmetrical eyes
(one eye a full half inch higher than the other on his polshed brown Sloth (Goonies(R)) like head)
wtf is wrong with Getbig these days, a full 3 pages and no one has yet properly critiqued the photo >:(
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How?
because i said so,,mindspin is right 100%,,NOT ONLY DID HE DO DRUGS BUT HE IS CURENTLY DOING MORE DRUGS ,,he just have average response and aim at specific nitch of bodybuilding called "NATURAL"
there wanst be anyone more happy to say he was truely natural than me,,but! he is not,,take him off drugs for a year and his arms wont even mesure 15 inches,,not to mention his other body parts,,
the main thing with nortom is his condition ,,he achieve it with out losing muscle size,,ONLY DUE TO DRUG INTAKE
gh15 approved
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because i said so,,mindspin is right 100%,,NOT ONLY DID HE DO DRUGS BUT HE IS CURENTLY DOING MORE DRUGS ,,he just have average response and aim at specific nitch of bodybuilding called "NATURAL"
there wanst be anyone more happy to say he was truely natural than me,,but! he is not,,take him off drugs for a year and his arms wont even mesure 15 inches,,not to mention his other body parts,,
the main thing with nortom is his condition ,,he achieve it with out losing muscle size,,ONLY DUE TO DRUG INTAKE
gh15 approved
Layne honestly looks amazing and is bigger than 90% of juicers!
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs339.ash2/61913_10100228827120430_1934241_59848324_6238568_n.jpg)
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small amount of muscle + ripped = disgusting look
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looks good but how come his legs look so shitty? he squats assloads of weight with intensity.
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If I had Layne's arm length advantage and dedication to nutrition I think my deadlift would be 550+ for sure. His dedication is really something and he has been at it for a long time. Maybe Layne shows how far someone can go as a natural? Is it possible that Layne is the genetic limit for a natural bodybuilder?
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If I had Layne's arm length advantage and dedication to nutrition I think my deadlift would be 550+ for sure. His dedication is really something and he has been at it for a long time. Maybe Layne shows how far someone can go as a natural? Is it possible that Layne is the genetic limit for a natural bodybuilder?
Matt you should ask him on a date , suck his cock and see the size of his pea sized balls , just dont tell him what you have planned otherwise he will pump them up with fertility drugs :D
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looks good but how come his legs look so shitty? he squats assloads of weight with intensity.
Because he knows exactly how to make the drugs he uses not do anything to his legs. ::)
You see, Will says he "knows for a fact"....yet will never, ever, state how he knows....and if he does it will be something like "I know a guy who trains with the guy who supplies a guy at Laynes gym who says his sister slept with a guy who sold Layne his stuff". The whole "I have been in the game for blah blah blah years" is bullshit. Why is it that there are so many threads about Layne...and so few about some guys who are constantly winning the WNBF or IFPA shows? I will tell you....one word....jealousy. Not jealousy of his body, nope....jealousy that this guy is doing what he loves with regard to his career, competing in bodybuilding and powerlifting, get paid to train people...and not one client has ever (from what I have ever seen) talked shit about him.
Whenever I see these threads....this is what instantly comes to mind:
(http://www.journerdism.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/broken-record.jpg)
(http://bluntobject.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/not-this-shit-again.jpg)
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Layne is natural.
What is so unbelievable about his physique anyway that you guys have to say he is definitivelt on drugs? Have you seen the pics of him pumping up backstage the day of his competition? He doesn't look enhanced to me, he doesn't have that thickness and wow factor. Just looks at his legs and his back development, the guy has good arms and is ripped, doesn't seem like something unachiveable without drugs.
How many other naturals out there look better than him? I don't follow natural bb competition, but from small amount of pics I've seen probably a lot.
I understand when people doubt of guys like jim cordova or jeff rodriguez, but Layne? C'mon.
Some of you guys say you have a lot of experience regarding drug use and can instantly tell when someone is "on". But do you have experience with natural training? How would you know for sure someone is juicing? Is it because you couldn't do it naturally so nobody else can?
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I don't follow natural bb competition
if you don't and or never have
you should shut the fuck up?
moron
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So you think he is juicing?
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Why is Yemini so bitter these days?
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this isn't you?
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/reform16.htm
you've hated layne for years now, you go out of your way to put down his body while praising far inferior physiques
since you have written for bb.com (unless that is some other "yemeni mesa" that works for an ice cream company ::)) i think you met layne at an expo and he hurt your feelings, causing you to hold a grudge
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I did write that article for Reform Magazine. Reform sold that article, along with many others to bodybuilding.com. So again, I've never written for the website. And, I've never met Layne, never spoken to him and never engaged him on any discussion thread...ever.
My only beef with him, is that he uses PEDs and claims to be natural. That's pathetic.
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So you think he is juicing?
i don't care either way.
i don't admire any competitive bodybuilder. shit is gay.
i don't do gay nor tolerate gay.
one thing i do, do is ammo, and buy a big ass gun after the restraining order comes off
glorious days ahead (http://www.freejunknstuff.com/laf.gif)
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Layne honestly looks amazing and is bigger than 90% of juicers!
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs339.ash2/61913_10100228827120430_1934241_59848324_6238568_n.jpg)
Jesus Christ! How recent is that pic? His arms are now bigger than his legs...lol.
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Why is Yemini so bitter these days?
lol. Just doing what I always do...bursting bubbles :)
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I did write that article for Reform Magazine. Reform sold that article, along with many others to bodybuilding.com. So again, I've never written for the website. And, I've never met Layne, never spoken to him and never engaged him on any discussion thread...ever.
My only beef with him, is that he uses PEDs and claims to be natural. That's pathetic.
We get it...you hate the guy, but you claim to have some inside info that he uses steroids. So by making these cryptic remarks like, "I know for a fact he is on them" and you don't follow up with any evidence, you seem to be the one with no credibility. If you have conclusive evidence, post it. Otherwise you look silly and bitter. Just saying he looks like he's on isn't enough for proof. If he was 230 shredded to the bone and claiming natty, then that would be absurd...but he has the narrow, sweepless thighs that I see on lots of natural competitors.
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Layne is natural.
What is so unbelievable about his physique anyway that you guys have to say he is definitivelt on drugs? Have you seen the pics of him pumping up backstage the day of his competition? He doesn't look enhanced to me, he doesn't have that thickness and wow factor. Just looks at his legs and his back development, the guy has good arms and is ripped, doesn't seem like something unachiveable without drugs.
How many other naturals out there look better than him? I don't follow natural bb competition, but from small amount of pics I've seen probably a lot.
I agree I think Layne is natural as well. However probably has used pohormones though but no AAS. And as gh15 says natural hes on 500mg test with some var.I understand when people doubt of guys like jim cordova or jeff rodriguez, but Layne? C'mon.
Some of you guys say you have a lot of experience regarding drug use and can instantly tell when someone is "on". But do you have experience with natural training? How would you know for sure someone is juicing? Is it because you couldn't do it naturally so nobody else can?
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Look clowns. Just because you use gear, doesn't mean that you're going to have some badass physique with massive shoulders, sweeping thighs, wide/thick back, etc. We have to look no further than Mike Arvilla for conclusive proof of this. For all the gear the guy took, his calves never got bigger than my seven year old's legs.
It is absolutely clear that Layne trains hard and knows how to diet to get himself dialed in. Drugs alone cannot do that. But, like I said before, he is using PEDs. You can choose to believe it or not. It makes no difference to me. However, if you're a true natural bodybuilder, and you really believe Layne is natural, then I feel sorry for you, because you will never be able to achieve the level of muscularity that Layne has.
That is all :)
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I did write that article for Reform Magazine. Reform sold that article, along with many others to bodybuilding.com. So again, I've never written for the website. And, I've never met Layne, never spoken to him and never engaged him on any discussion thread...ever.
My only beef with him, is that he uses PEDs and claims to be natural. That's pathetic.
See this: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=348957.msg4905884#msg4905884
If it makes no difference to you, why make all the posts you do? Oh, wait..thats right....you "dont like liars"....boo hoo. Have you made as many threads/posts about Chael Sonnen as you have about Layne and his supposed use?
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See this: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=348957.msg4905884#msg4905884
If it makes no difference to you, why make all the posts you do? Oh, wait..thats right....you "dont like liars"....boo hoo. Have you made as many threads/posts about Chael Sonnen as you have about Layne and his supposed use?
Like I said. I throughly enjoy bursting people's bubbles. And I have made posts about Chael. However, he's not walking around with a "Hi I'm drug free" t-shirt". Layne's whole schtick is that he is a natty...pathetic.
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Like I said. I throughly enjoy bursting people's bubbles. And I have made posts about Chael. However, he's not walking around with a "Hi I'm drug free" t-shirt". Layne's whole schtick is that he is a natty...pathetic.
Show me one persons bubble you burst...just one. Who has said "holy crap....you're right!!".
Does he really have a shirt that says "Hi, I'm drug free"?
I didnt say you didnt make posts....I asked if you have made AS MANY. Big difference.
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Show me one persons bubble you burst...just one. Who has said "holy crap....you're right!!".
Does he really have a shirt that says "Hi, I'm drug free"?
I didnt say you didnt make posts....I asked if you have made AS MANY. Big difference.
meltdown...lol.
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Look clowns. Just because you use gear, doesn't mean that you're going to have some badass physique with massive shoulders, sweeping thighs, wide/thick back, etc. We have to look no further than Mike Arvilla for conclusive proof of this. For all the gear the guy took, his calves never got bigger than my seven year old's legs.
It is absolutely clear that Layne trains hard and knows how to diet to get himself dialed in. Drugs alone cannot do that. But, like I said before, he is using PEDs. You can choose to believe it or not. It makes no difference to me. However, if you're a true natural bodybuilder, and you really believe Layne is natural, then I feel sorry for you, because you will never be able to achieve the level of muscularity that Layne has.
That is all :)
Who is Mike Arvilla? Never heard of him.
You make good points here, but I honestly don't see him a user.
A lot of people in this thread have been asking for this proof you say you have, where is it? I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, but if you say "I know for a fact he is using PEDs" then at least offer some proof.
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Look clowns. Just because you use gear, doesn't mean that you're going to have some badass physique with massive shoulders, sweeping thighs, wide/thick back, etc. We have to look no further than Mike Arvilla for conclusive proof of this. For all the gear the guy took, his calves never got bigger than my seven year old's legs.
It is absolutely clear that Layne trains hard and knows how to diet to get himself dialed in. Drugs alone cannot do that. But, like I said before, he is using PEDs. You can choose to believe it or not. It makes no difference to me. However, if you're a true natural bodybuilder, and you really believe Layne is natural, then I feel sorry for you, because you will never be able to achieve the level of muscularity that Layne has.
That is all :)
No, douche...THAT is a melt down. ;D
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Who is Mike Arvilla? Never heard of him.
You make good points here, but I honestly don't see him a user.
A lot of people in this thread have been asking for this proof you say you have, where is it? I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, but if you say "I know for a fact he is using PEDs" then at least offer some proof.
Obviously he doesn't have have any proof or he would. His "proof" is that he thinks Layne looks too muscular to not be taking hormones....or that "GH15" says he's on juice so that's proves it.
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Obviously he doesn't have have any proof or he would. His "proof" is that he thinks Layne looks too muscular to not be taking hormones....or that "GH15" says he's on juice so that's proves it.
wrong
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Look clowns. Just because you use gear, doesn't mean that you're going to have some badass physique with massive shoulders, sweeping thighs, wide/thick back, etc. We have to look no further than Mike Arvilla for conclusive proof of this. For all the gear the guy took, his calves never got bigger than my seven year old's legs.
It is absolutely clear that Layne trains hard and knows how to diet to get himself dialed in. Drugs alone cannot do that. But, like I said before, he is using PEDs. You can choose to believe it or not. It makes no difference to me. However, if you're a true natural bodybuilder, and you really believe Layne is natural, then I feel sorry for you, because you will never be able to achieve the level of muscularity that Layne has.
That is all :)
Well, well your post was a lot more objective Mindspin,and you are right, even a boatload of drugs can't make everyone look like a pro.
However, it still puzzles me why you and so many others feel so strongly that Layne just has to be on drugs. ???
I think the guy looks ripped and has a good deadlift, but I see no reason he would need drugs to acomplish it.
I suspect Layne doesn't really care what most of naysayers post. He is enjoying his recent class win at a natural pro meet and life in general.
While we sit here and debate his natural status, Layne is out there winning shows and lifting big wts in the gym.
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Howard, you and I are the same, always talking about how great using gear is and the crave to do it but never just getting on and staying on as we should. In the back of my mind somewhere I worry it is "unhealthy" but I have no evidence to suggest such a thing.
I did my own experiment back in the 80's and left it behind with no regrets.
For me it is asimple case of the legal and health risks not being worth it, along with the extra money you have to spend.
Woriking out , bodybuilding and running now are my lifestyle and a fun hobby.
To do a bunch of steroids at this point in my life, seems silly.
To me it is like raw powerlifting vs useing supports, wraps and bench shirts.
I would much rather see what someone can lift with just a lifting singlet or t-shirt and gym shorts on.
Seems to be more of a real sport without all the extra gear to help lift the wt.
I feel the same about the extreme steroid use in BB.
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Who is Mike Arvilla? Never heard of him.
You make good points here, but I honestly don't see him a user.
A lot of people in this thread have been asking for this proof you say you have, where is it? I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, but if you say "I know for a fact he is using PEDs" then at least offer some proof.
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lol. Just doing what I always do...bursting bubbles :)
nah man your still good, i thoroughly enjoyed the shit you've been posting in the mike and laura thread. especially mercedes good side.
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It doesn't matter but the dude in the pic is on drugs. Anybody who thinks otherwise simply doesn't know bodybuilding. . . and that's OK too.
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It doesn't matter but the dude in the pic is on drugs. Anybody who thinks otherwise simply doesn't know bodybuilding. . . and that's OK too.
I guess my more than 20 yrs as a BB judge were a waste then.
The new drug test, " You can tell by looking at the guy".
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hey mindspin, in your opinion do you think it's possible to achieve layne's level of physique naturally? i'm not talking about layne himself but for anyone.
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Not at all. I know for a fact that he is on gear, which is why he'l never bring this to court.
you still might want to add allegedly to your post man.
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so Mindspin, how do you know "in fact" he uses? any proof? do you know his dealer or something like that? give us a hint.
I agree with your post and how someone looks on drugs, many "naturals" in here think if someone uses would have to look like Coleman in no time.
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hey mindspin, in your opinion do you think it's possible to achieve layne's level of physique naturally? i'm not talking about layne himself but for anyone.
I think it's possible to put on the amount of muscle he has. I know a lot of real natties that actually carry more muscle. It's possible to achieve his level of conditioning. Again, I know guys that are almost as ripped as an in shape bodybuilder without dieting. What is not possible is his level of muscularity. The combination of very low BF, muscle fullness and decent amount of muscle.
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I think it's possible to put on the amount of muscle he has. I know a lot of real natties that actually carry more muscle. It's possible to achieve his level of conditioning. Again, I know guys that are almost as ripped as an in shape bodybuilder without dieting. What is not possible is his level of muscularity. The combination of very low BF, muscle fullness and decent amount of muscle.
Although I can't say that I've ever really given bodybuilding a serious run, I think that bodybuilding in generally is basically all drugs. I just don't think human bodies are meant to hold much muscle. I don't see any evolutionary benefit to that for starters. But who knows, maybe I'm wrong. I would love to be 165 at under 10% body fat. I think that is realistic, but I never thought much more was realistic, without drugs anyway.
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Still have to show where you were hurt financially by the specific actions (allegations)...pretty tough to do in this case.
A law suit over some guy being natural and some silly comments on getbig? wtf? How quick would judge throw that frivilous law suit out of court ::)
New flash! Layne meets the LEGAL and official standard for being natural in his organization by PASSING their drug test.
I doubt many of you naysayers even know how he was tested or understand how drug tests are done.
If a person is accused of drug use and can produce a negative test result, it would be an open and shut case in a court.
Layne's side - actual , drug test from a sanctioned bodybuilding meet. He tested negative for all steroids.
Getbig side. Your honor I can tell by looking at him.hehehehe.
After the judge stops laughing you lose and get thrown out of court .
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For me it is asimple case of the legal and health risks not being worth it, along with the extra money you have to spend.
You have to be an extremely cheap bastard if you think steroids are expensive. The cycles you claim you ran would cost maybe 2-10 dollars a week nowadays. That's expensive? For what you get, they cost nothing.
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you still might want to add allegedly to your post man.
I'm not worried...not one bit.
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I'm not worried...not one bit.
LOL, I know it hehehe.
To debate or say whatever on getbig is fun, but to think someone might be serious enough to try for a lawsuit, OMG!
I laugh at a lot posts here on getbig, especially the negative ones from those like disturbia.
Part of what it makes it funny to me, is why anyone would even get bothered by anything posted on getbig.
I acted all pissed when some stupid pics of my wife were posted with "slut" photoshopped on her head.
It was so lame and silly that it was funny. If you play the game and act all insulted , it never fails to get some more response.
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Athlete? Does he play football? baseball? Looks like a swimmer but he's competing in a bodybuilding contest!
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Athlete? Does he play football? baseball? Looks like a swimmer but he's competing in a bodybuilding contest!
If he only looks like a swimmer, why are you insisting he's juiced?
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I don't know either way but I will say his upper chest, biceps, & shoulders look very good for being natural and in the condition he is in.
As you lose fat you lose a lot of size, perhaps he has been doing this for a while and has it dialed.
I think his traps would be fuller if he were on.
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I don't this for a fact, but looking at the pics, it appears to me as though there may be some oil in the arms...