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Title: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Croatch on September 21, 2010, 05:10:47 PM
Front: Steroids..

Back: When you want to feel like you accomplished something, but really achieved nothing
 :D

New shirt idea.  What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Steroids...
Post by: tom joad on September 21, 2010, 05:17:02 PM
the back is too wordy.
Title: Re: Steroids...
Post by: myt1 on September 21, 2010, 05:43:03 PM
Nothing but envy from a "natural" pussy that doesn't train hard.  It screams of bitterness, and I know you're better than me but here's the reason
Title: Re: Steroids...
Post by: Master Blaster on September 21, 2010, 06:33:59 PM
Front: Steroids..

Back: When you want to feel like you accomplished something, but really achieved nothing
 :D

New shirt idea.  What do you guys think?

Dude, you have assburgers.  ;)

Asperger's Syndrome - Symptoms


Not pick up on social cues and may lack inborn social skills, such as being able to read others' body language, start or maintain a conversation, and take turns talking.

Dislike any changes in routines.

Appear to lack empathy.

Be unable to recognize subtle differences in speech tone, pitch, and accent that alter the meaning of others’ speech. Thus, your child may not understand a joke or may take a sarcastic comment literally. Likewise, his or her speech may be flat and difficult to understand because it lacks tone, pitch, and accent.

Have a formal style of speaking that is advanced for his or her age. For example, the child may use the word "beckon" instead of "call" or the word "return" instead of "come back."

Avoid eye contact or stare at others.

Have unusual facial expressions or postures.  

Be preoccupied with only one or few interests, which he or she may be very knowledgeable about. Many children with Asperger's syndrome are overly interested in parts of a whole or in unusual activities, such as designing houses, drawing highly detailed scenes, or studying astronomy. They may show an unusual interest in certain topics such as snakes, names of stars, or dinosaurs.2

Talk a lot, usually about a favorite subject. One-sided conversations are common. Internal thoughts are often verbalized.
Have delayed motor development. Your child may be late in learning to use a fork or spoon, ride a bike, or catch a ball. He or she may have an awkward walk. Handwriting is often poor.

Have heightened sensitivity and become overstimulated by loud noises, lights, or strong tastes or textures. For more information about these symptoms, see sensory integration dysfunction.

Although the condition is in some ways similar to autism, a child with Asperger's syndrome typically has normal language and intellectual development. Also, those with Asperger's syndrome typically make more of an effort than those with autism to make friends and engage in activities with others.

Title: Re: Steroids...
Post by: Howard on September 21, 2010, 07:21:56 PM
Front: Steroids..

Back: When you want to feel like you accomplished something, but really achieved nothing
 :D

New shirt idea.  What do you guys think?
How about this for a shirt?
Front : "Use steroids?"

Back: " Nope! Viagra gives a better pump"
Title: Re: Steroids...
Post by: Nirvana on September 21, 2010, 07:22:54 PM
ronnie coleman achieved nothing?
Title: Re: Steroids...
Post by: Howard on September 21, 2010, 07:27:13 PM
ronnie coleman achieved nothing?
Yeah, but for every success in BB like big Ronnie you have a thousand or more wannabees that ended up screwed up going for it.
It is the same deal with stuff like American Idol. Several thousand audition at those preliminary cattle calls, and only 100 or so even get into the 3 judges . Only a few of them even get shown on the program. All but a handful, ever make any singing career out of it.

Title: Re: Steroids...
Post by: Fallsview on September 21, 2010, 07:30:05 PM
Dude, you have assburgers.  ;)

Asperger's Syndrome - Symptoms


Not pick up on social cues and may lack inborn social skills, such as being able to read others' body language, start or maintain a conversation, and take turns talking.

Dislike any changes in routines.

Appear to lack empathy.

Be unable to recognize subtle differences in speech tone, pitch, and accent that alter the meaning of others’ speech. Thus, your child may not understand a joke or may take a sarcastic comment literally. Likewise, his or her speech may be flat and difficult to understand because it lacks tone, pitch, and accent.

Have a formal style of speaking that is advanced for his or her age. For example, the child may use the word "beckon" instead of "call" or the word "return" instead of "come back."

Avoid eye contact or stare at others.

Have unusual facial expressions or postures.  

Be preoccupied with only one or few interests, which he or she may be very knowledgeable about. Many children with Asperger's syndrome are overly interested in parts of a whole or in unusual activities, such as designing houses, drawing highly detailed scenes, or studying astronomy. They may show an unusual interest in certain topics such as snakes, names of stars, or dinosaurs.2

Talk a lot, usually about a favorite subject. One-sided conversations are common. Internal thoughts are often verbalized.
Have delayed motor development. Your child may be late in learning to use a fork or spoon, ride a bike, or catch a ball. He or she may have an awkward walk. Handwriting is often poor.

Have heightened sensitivity and become overstimulated by loud noises, lights, or strong tastes or textures. For more information about these symptoms, see sensory integration dysfunction.

Although the condition is in some ways similar to autism, a child with Asperger's syndrome typically has normal language and intellectual development. Also, those with Asperger's syndrome typically make more of an effort than those with autism to make friends and engage in activities with others.



It could also be Autism since it is in the spectrum.
Title: Re: Steroids...
Post by: Master Blaster on September 21, 2010, 07:34:39 PM
ronnie coleman achieved nothing?

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Title: steroids are they harmful
Post by: slacker on September 21, 2010, 08:15:13 PM
discuss   is steroids use harmful.     keyword  "use"  not abuse

anyone want to admit any sides
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: Army of One on September 21, 2010, 08:21:13 PM
discuss   is steroids use harmful.     keyword  "use"  not abuse

anyone want to admit any sides

Yes, look at Laura Lee on this forum, you wont touch them after.
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: benchmstr on September 21, 2010, 08:21:54 PM
discuss   is steroids use harmful.     keyword  "use"  not abuse

anyone want to admit any sides
i blew a load and it was blood once.....

bench
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: tonymctones on September 21, 2010, 08:23:02 PM
i blew a load and it was blood once.....

bench
who freaked out more the chick or you?
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: slacker on September 21, 2010, 08:23:47 PM
Yes, look at Laura Lee on this forum, you wont touch them after.
looking for intelligent responses
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: Army of One on September 21, 2010, 08:24:27 PM
looking for intelligent responses

That was a truthful response, look at a before and after.
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: slacker on September 21, 2010, 08:25:55 PM
That was a truthful response, look at a before and after.
medical info   
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: disturbia on September 21, 2010, 08:26:36 PM
medical info   

holy look what the cat dragged in
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: slacker on September 21, 2010, 08:34:43 PM
lol  it wasnt a cat more like a donkey with strong legs lol  whats new you fat bastard.  Still kicking ass and taking names or what
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: Doug_Steele on September 21, 2010, 08:36:48 PM
holy look what the cat dragged in

That is what i thought too.  :D
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: slacker on September 21, 2010, 08:38:52 PM
well my work season is over in a few weeks so I thought I would drop iin to say hi.  Almost time to start my cycle and this site helps motivate me.
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: disturbia on September 21, 2010, 08:42:41 PM
lol  it wasnt a cat more like a donkey with strong legs lol  whats new you fat bastard.  Still kicking ass and taking names or what

strangely been training hard, dropped 22 pounds, gotten stronger

its like bizarro world
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: benchmstr on September 21, 2010, 08:46:39 PM
who freaked out more the chick or you?
her...i never even went to the Dr for it....that was about 8 years ago...

for the record...i wasnt on your "normal dose"......we are talking a LOT here....

bench
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: slacker on September 21, 2010, 08:49:13 PM
strangely been training hard, dropped 22 pounds, gotten stronger

its like bizarro world
lol  I look like shit but I dropped 40 pounds and feel like shit.    Havent been to the gym my back is sore from all the driving/flying around the country.  Glad to be home and hitting the gym again.     I look better at 260 then I did at 300.   Now when I gain itll look way better
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: HTexan on September 21, 2010, 08:51:16 PM
i blew a load and it was blood once.....

bench
Hematospermia is usually harmless. Almost 100% sure it wasn't the roids.
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: kiwiol on September 21, 2010, 08:52:23 PM
holy look what the cat dragged in

To Disturbia ...Slacker never ran your name/number or ip address.  He simply profiled you because you have the intellectual maturity of a tree.  He read your threads and it was plain to see that you are a lowlife scum.   From his experience as a police officer when someone like you is charged for domestic abuse/assault uttering death threats always follow.  It is our sure fire way to prove intent to harm and you are then labelled a dangerous criminal and taken away.     You exposed yourself over and over again.   He had no idea of your name or number.  You see unlike you he didnt research your account.  HeI figured as stupid as you are you would undoubtedly expose yourself.   You are far to dumb to see it but he owns you.  He is so deeply in your head you took the time to research post he made 7 years ago.   How desperate is that.  Your game is weak and your name is mud.
He eagerly awaits your less than stellar retort
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: benchmstr on September 21, 2010, 08:52:59 PM
Hematospermia is usually harmless. Almost 100% sure it wasn't the roids.

it could have brought it on though...i was on atleast 3g's of test alone at the time...

bench
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: HTexan on September 21, 2010, 08:55:39 PM
it could have brought it on though...i was on atleast 3g's of test alone at the time...

bench
Well maybe if your sex drive was up.
Were you blowing your load harder then normal? Or having more sex?
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: slacker on September 21, 2010, 08:56:21 PM
Well maybe if your sex drive was up.
Were you blowing your load harder then normal? Or having more sex?
back on topic please
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: benchmstr on September 21, 2010, 08:59:17 PM
back on topic please
we are trying to determin if my bloody sperm was due to massive ammounts of AAS...dickhole...

Well maybe if your sex drive was up.
Were you blowing your load harder then normal? Or having more sex?
not really, i didnt feel like doing shit...when your on that much you dont want to do anything......

and there was no sperm in it...just solid blood..but it only happened when i shot the load....never when i pissed..

bench
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: HTexan on September 21, 2010, 08:59:35 PM
back on topic please
haha fuck you, adults talking here.
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: slacker on September 21, 2010, 09:01:23 PM
haha fuck you, adults talking here.
listen assclown  your interest in his bloody dick is unhealthy.   Let it go.  I am not alking about isolated instances .   I want to know if anyone is suffering from long term effects
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: HTexan on September 21, 2010, 09:02:23 PM
we are trying to determin if my bloody sperm was due to massive ammounts of AAS...dickhole...
not really, i didnt feel like doing shit...when your on that much you dont want to do anything......

and there was no sperm in it...just solid blood..but it only happened when i shot the load....never when i pissed..

bench
was the blood in the semen fluid or the sperm?
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: HTexan on September 21, 2010, 09:03:34 PM
listen assclown  your interest in his bloody dick is unhealthy.   Let it go.  I am not alking about isolated instances .   I want to know if anyone is suffering from long term effects
listen cum eater, were discussing the effects of roids on your reproduction ability.
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: slacker on September 21, 2010, 09:03:43 PM
was the blood in the semen fluid or the sperm?
fuck learn to read stupid  he said it was all blood
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: benchmstr on September 21, 2010, 09:03:59 PM
was the blood in the semen fluid or the sperm?
all blood..

bench
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: HTexan on September 21, 2010, 09:05:08 PM
all blood..

bench
IMO you just popped a vein. 15% chance it won't happen again.
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: benchmstr on September 21, 2010, 09:05:59 PM
IMO you just popped a vein. 15% chance it won't happen again.
i wouldnt care if it did...as long as i can still get a boner, and my dick doesnt fall off...its ok..

bench
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: slacker on September 21, 2010, 09:06:33 PM
IMO you just popped a vein. 15% chance it won't happen again.
so theres a 85% chance it will happen again
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: HTexan on September 21, 2010, 09:08:52 PM
so theres a 85% chance it will happen again
basic math is easy huh? ::)
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: slacker on September 21, 2010, 09:10:32 PM
basic math is easy huh? ::)
are you high  you really think its gonna happen again.    fuck you must be black
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: Rami on September 21, 2010, 09:11:15 PM
yes, very soul destructive.


You are optimal already.
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: slacker on September 21, 2010, 09:18:19 PM
anyone??
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: benchmstr on September 21, 2010, 09:32:07 PM
anyone??
i cant even comment on gyno...i had it removed before i ever touched AAS...

bench
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: Howard on September 21, 2010, 09:33:33 PM
looking for intelligent responses
Ok here is the deal in general terms.
Steroids done in moderate amounts in most males over 25, will have a max bennefit and minimum risk.
I use prescribed Androgel and get yearly blood work down to check all key levels in my body.
At 51, I have been on it under my Doc's care for 6 yrs now. I have  the stable testosterone levels of a healthy male in his 20's and NO side effects. All my blood/hormone levels are in the ideal range and stable.

Most who aspire to be top bodybulders will abuse the drugs. I am no drug expert, but fear the top pros may take  risks with their health and the law. That is the real issue for me. To take enough to make a major difference requires a lot of extra money$$ , and possible health and/or legal risks. A small , sensible cycle to see what they do, isn't  a big risk, but e sensible and careful. It is far better to go on the low side , if you choose to do it. Honestly, my advice is to NOT do any steroids , if you are training for personal reasons, see what you can do without it.
I did small amounts of the basic , known steroids, one at a time, for 3 yrs back in the mid 80's.
It helped me get cut and ready for contests and that was my main use at that time.
I competed from 1987 to 95 without any drugs and did just fine. I was never going pro and enjoyed the challenge of seeing what just me, my body and hard work could acomplish.
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: slacker on September 21, 2010, 09:52:05 PM
i mostly use them for the fact i heal faster have more energy and my back never hurts.   without it i feel old and lazy  im only 35
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 21, 2010, 09:57:05 PM
In most cases no, but get a blood panel and review your family history before you start. But in general and use just for hrt purposes, the positives outweigh the negetives by a long shot.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: slacker on September 21, 2010, 10:01:37 PM
im doing a small cycle anyway 500mg of test per week and 50mg d bols per day week 1 to 4 with proper pct
Title: Re: Steroids...
Post by: youandme on September 21, 2010, 10:14:21 PM
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/Nico_14_Ian/readthamuthafuckinthread.gif)
lmao
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: youandme on September 21, 2010, 10:15:33 PM
IMO you just popped a vein. 15% chance it won't happen again.

lmao...oh shit...how did you come up with 15%?
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: HTexan on September 22, 2010, 07:48:26 AM
lmao...oh shit...how did you come up with 15%?
That's what the doctor told me. Also I think he said it will happen to 1 in 7 men.
are you high  you really think its gonna happen again.    fuck you must be black
FU I'm not black. You're the one trying to impress us with you 1st grade subtraction skills. Loser.
Title: Re: steroids are they harmful
Post by: Playboy on September 22, 2010, 08:49:28 AM
discuss   is steroids use harmful.     keyword  "use"  not abuse

anyone want to admit any sides
Absolutely not. Truth be told.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Ross Erstling on September 22, 2010, 09:23:26 AM
Anyone who believes that anabolic steroids will enable the user to build muscle mass and lose fat without commensurate effort is just foolish and ignorant. 

Anabolic steroids will ENHANCE the effect of training and diet, but without a fundamental understanding of bodybuilding application, steroids will do very little for body composition changes.  Steroids are not magic, but they will DEFINITELY allow you to build far more muscle, and much more rapidly, than you would naturally.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Playboy on September 22, 2010, 10:54:26 AM
Anyone who believes that anabolic steroids will enable the user to build muscle mass and lose fat without commensurate effort is just foolish and ignorant. 

Anabolic steroids will ENHANCE the effect of training and diet, but without a fundamental understanding of bodybuilding application, steroids will do very little for body composition changes.  Steroids are not magic, but they will DEFINITELY allow you to build far more muscle, and much more rapidly, than you would naturally.
Quoted for the truth.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Howard on September 22, 2010, 11:43:54 AM
In most cases no, but get a blood panel and review your family history before you start. But in general and use just for hrt purposes, the positives outweigh the negetives by a long shot.
Exactly! Moderate sensible use with actual blood work is very little risk and all gain.
The only down side is at that level you may not make huge gains like those who go to extremes with the drugs.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Howard on September 22, 2010, 11:44:59 AM
Anyone who believes that anabolic steroids will enable the user to build muscle mass and lose fat without commensurate effort is just foolish and ignorant.  

Anabolic steroids will ENHANCE the effect of training and diet, but without a fundamental understanding of bodybuilding application, steroids will do very little for body composition changes.  Steroids are not magic, but they will DEFINITELY allow you to build far more muscle, and much more rapidly, than you would naturally.
Yup! Pretty much sums it all up . good post.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: dov on September 22, 2010, 11:49:00 AM
Are steroids harmful?



Well, lookie what it did for Arvilla and the lady friend
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Croatch on September 22, 2010, 12:49:50 PM
Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Brutal changing of heading.
Steroids...

It leaves me with a creepy feeling that some mod actually changed this..haha
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: slacker on September 22, 2010, 06:58:28 PM
Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Brutal changing of heading.
Steroids...

It leaves me with a creepy feeling that some mod actually changed this..haha
gross lol
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: CAPTAIN INSANO on September 22, 2010, 08:06:16 PM
No  8)
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Master Blaster on September 22, 2010, 09:33:49 PM
Anyone who believes that anabolic steroids will enable the user to build muscle mass and lose fat without commensurate effort is just foolish and ignorant. 

Anabolic steroids will ENHANCE the effect of training and diet, but without a fundamental understanding of bodybuilding application, steroids will do very little for body composition changes.  Steroids are not magic, but they will DEFINITELY allow you to build far more muscle, and much more rapidly, than you would naturally.


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Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: g101 on September 22, 2010, 10:06:16 PM
you must get legit hormones
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: g101 on September 22, 2010, 10:07:07 PM

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steroids will only "help" you  ::)
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Deicide on September 22, 2010, 10:09:51 PM
Croatch...in all the years of observing you, I think this is the only topic you have ever made a noteworthy contribution to. I ask this in all honesty: do you have any other interests apart from being 'anti-steroid'? :-\
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Master Blaster on September 22, 2010, 10:10:14 PM
steroids will only "help" you  ::)

 ;)
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Croatch on September 23, 2010, 01:13:20 AM
Croatch...in all the years of observing you, I think this is the only topic you have ever made a noteworthy contribution to. I ask this in all honesty: do you have any other interests apart from being 'anti-steroid'? :-\
No.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: FREAKgeek on September 23, 2010, 06:06:40 AM
Anyone who believes that anabolic steroids will enable the user to build muscle mass and lose fat without commensurate effort is just foolish and ignorant. 

Anabolic steroids will ENHANCE the effect of training and diet, but without a fundamental understanding of bodybuilding application, steroids will do very little for body composition changes.  Steroids are not magic, but they will DEFINITELY allow you to build far more muscle, and much more rapidly, than you would naturally.

The effort needed varies between individuals. You can't deny the extreme changes in short periods of time with some good responders.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Ross Erstling on September 23, 2010, 08:00:30 AM
The effort needed varies between individuals. You can't deny the extreme changes in short periods of time with some good responders.

There is NO ONE who will look like a Kevin Levrone(or any other IFBB bodybuilder) overnight.  These types of physical changes require YEARS of hardcore training, dieting, and of course, anabolic steroids.

To put it in to perspective, in the last 10 years, I have not taken off more than 7 days COMPLETELY from the gym--EVER, and these occasions that I did were extremely rare.  For the past 10 years, every 2-3 hours, I am consuming 40-60 grams of protein.  For the past 10 years, I have been training in the gym at least 4-6 times per week, for at least 60-90 minutes. This is a lifestyle for me and although I will admit that I could have NEVER looked like I do naturally, it has taken me QUITE a long time to get here, and it's the same for any IFBB bodybuilder but even more so.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: FREAKgeek on September 23, 2010, 08:13:23 AM
There is NO ONE who will look like a Kevin Levrone(or any other IFBB bodybuilder) overnight.  These types of physical changes require YEARS of hardcore training, dieting, and of course, anabolic steroids.

To put it in to perspective, in the last 10 years, I have not taken off more than 7 days COMPLETELY from the gym--EVER, and these occasions that I did were extremely rare.  For the past 10 years, every 2-3 hours, I am consuming 40-60 grams of protein.  For the past 10 years, I have been training in the gym at least 4-6 times per week, for at least 60-90 minutes. This is a lifestyle for me and although I will admit that I could have NEVER looked like I do naturally, it has taken me QUITE a long time to get here, and it's the same for any IFBB bodybuilder but even more so.

no kidding, that's probably true for 99% of us. Again, some people blow up in a few months time - not ready to step IFBB stage but enough to turn heads. Some will look like they haven't touched a weight.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Deicide on September 23, 2010, 08:16:46 AM
No.

WOW.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: no one on September 23, 2010, 08:29:17 AM
In most cases no, but get a blood panel and review your family history before you start. But in general and use just for hrt purposes, the positives outweigh the negetives by a long shot.

^ this

i know a guy who has been on for almost 15 years- always at 500mg a week- ramping up to 2000-2500mg a week 3-4 times a year for 6-8 weeks. he's an insulin user as well.

he got bloodwork done the other day- thyroid, prostate, cholesterol, liver and kidney function all fine. no sign of diabetes.

so much for steroids being so harmful.

thanks for playing, 'croatch'.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Playboy on September 23, 2010, 08:32:33 AM
Its one thing to take moderate doses and its quite another thing to abuse. Same can be said for alchohol & cigerattes.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: slacker on September 23, 2010, 09:57:37 AM
Its one thing to take moderate doses and its quite another thing to abuse. Same can be said for alchohol & cigerattes.
well I dont smoke or drink so I take steroids   will I got to hell
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: owner76 on September 23, 2010, 04:27:03 PM
Only if you ingest or inject them.
Other than that, they're fine.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: HTexan on September 23, 2010, 07:11:32 PM
Only if you ingest or inject them.
Other than that, they're fine.
yup yup, anally is the only safe way to take roids.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: slacker on September 23, 2010, 07:53:42 PM
yup yup, anally is the only safe way to take roids.
so are they saafe
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: slacker on September 24, 2010, 05:10:36 AM
Im shooing one cc every 4 days
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Playboy on September 24, 2010, 05:16:23 AM
well I dont smoke or drink so I take steroids   will I got to hell
According to the "anti-users" yes. But then again, they really should be minding their own business instead of being bitter, jealous, self-righteous idiots.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Tapeworm on September 24, 2010, 05:39:13 AM
so are they saafe

All drugs have effects and side effects which vary from person to person.  It isn't a yes/no issue.  Surely you know this already.

If you're a healthy adult and are using for bodybuilding purposes, then the drugs can only be a detriment to your health.  Who can say to what degree.  Surely you know this already.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: slacker on September 24, 2010, 05:47:47 AM
All drugs have effects and side effects which vary from person to person.  It isn't a yes/no issue.  Surely you know this already.

If you're a healthy adult and are using for bodybuilding purposes, then the drugs can only be a detriment to your health.  Who can say to what degree.  Surely you know this already.
yeah your right I know everything lol      When ever I start a cycle I just want someone to hold my hand. 
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Lord of the Roidz on September 24, 2010, 06:39:39 AM
Steroids used properly are unlikely to produce any life threatening effects. However, I don't think it's a great idea to use thousands of milligrams a week for extended periods of time. There is some evidence to suggest that the heart can be negatively affected by large steroid doses. Many bodybuilders from the 70's and 80's have had heart surgeries or heart attacks..and many you've never heard of. The steroids cause the LDL and HDL levels to be thrown off. For a temporary period, this is no big deal..but prolonged imbalances in these levels leads to dangerous plaque build up in the arteries. The kidneys , through various mechanisms (including high blood pressure)can be damaged by excessive steroid use...and of course the liver can be strained, especially if methylated orals are used for a long time. Prolonged use of steroids will definitely cause a lowereing of your own testosterone, which sometimes never returns to normal. Most guys now say, "Screw it, I'll just go on HRT." But when you are in your 20's and you need to take test just to function normally, you probably have to look forward to also taking ancilliaries like HCG, Arimidex, Proscar to combat test sides...for life. This, in my opinion, is not a strategy for optimum health.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: flinstones1 on September 24, 2010, 10:25:41 PM
Being a bodybuilder will allow you to be healthy while abusing steroids because weight training, the clean diet, etc will counteract the problems.. The problem is guys like powerlifters who are more abusive than bbers half the time when it comes to AAS and dont do cardio, become obese, rarely get any excercise because of the few reps involved in powerllifting training.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Luolamies on September 25, 2010, 04:32:39 AM
Being a bodybuilder will allow you to be healthy while abusing steroids because weight training, the clean diet, etc will counteract the problems.. The problem is guys like powerlifters who are more abusive than bbers half the time when it comes to AAS and dont do cardio, become obese, rarely get any excercise because of the few reps involved in powerllifting training.

I get your point, but i don't agree...

Most serious powerlifters take care of their health and make sure everything is in check. I've been lifting since i was 13-years old, using AAS on/off (low-medium doses) since 20, now i'm allmost 26 and have seen the differences between bodybuilding and powerlifting drug usage and lifestyle. Powerlifters i know use moderate doses of basic drugs and seldom if ever take anything exotic like: t3, diuretics, slin, prostaglandins, plasma expander's etc. not to mention the rec. drug scene. Of course there are extremes on both sides, but in my opinion generally powerlifters are healthier.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Tito24 on September 25, 2010, 04:44:05 AM


Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: StanZoLOL on September 25, 2010, 04:56:30 AM
Most serious powerlifters take care of their health and make sure everything is in check. I've been lifting since i was 13-years old, using AAS on/off (low-medium doses) since 20, now i'm allmost 26 and have seen the differences between bodybuilding and powerlifting drug usage and lifestyle. Powerlifters i know use moderate doses of basic drugs and seldom if ever take anything exotic like: t3, diuretics, slin, prostaglandins, plasma expander's etc. not to mention the rec. drug scene. Of course there are extremes on both sides, but in my opinion generally powerlifters are healthier.

Not so sure about that... they are probably healthier than bodybuilders (not saying much) but still love their high doses of halo, tren, suspension, etc. Not to mention combining that with alchohol, shitty diet, etc.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: slacker on September 26, 2010, 03:53:29 PM
Not so sure about that... they are probably healthier than bodybuilders (not saying much) but still love their high doses of halo, tren, suspension, etc. Not to mention combining that with alchohol, shitty diet, etc.
anyone here have any bad sides
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Tapeworm on September 27, 2010, 02:18:59 AM
anyone here have any bad sides

Nothing really bad but the sides I noticed with T were decreased sex drive, delayed ejaculation and less satisfying orgasms, increased aggression, and for some reason I would get a wicked headache on the last few reps of any chest exercise (probably erythropoiesis).  Coming off was emotionally sucky.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: slacker on September 27, 2010, 11:53:55 AM
Nothing really bad but the sides I noticed with T were decreased sex drive, delayed ejaculation and less satisfying orgasms, increased aggression, and for some reason I would get a wicked headache on the last few reps of any chest exercise (probably erythropoiesis).  Coming off was emotionally sucky.
really I heard it increases your sex drive
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 27, 2010, 12:02:19 PM
anyone here have any bad sides

Speaking for myself..no. I've been on and off since I was 16 (too young IMO thinking back) and I'm 48 now and NEVER any problems.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Captain Equipoise on September 27, 2010, 12:02:20 PM
Shirt idea for croatch

front: Croatch (with picture)

back: STEROIDS: atempted and failed miserably.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: slacker on September 27, 2010, 09:11:59 PM
Shirt idea for croatch

front: Croatch (with picture)

back: STEROIDS: attempted and failed miserably.

lol thats funny
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Croatch on September 28, 2010, 02:03:40 AM
Shirt idea for croatch

front: Croatch (with picture)

back: STEROIDS: atempted and failed miserably.

atempted...attempted

I wouldn't say failed.  I put on 35lbs in 2 months.
I saw how easy it was, then realize...this shit is for tools.
So, decided to put on 50lbs of lean mass using zero drugs.

You show some respect clown.
Maybe consider asking me for training tips and not making bad jokes, then you'd have a chance at gaining half what I did on your own stud.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Playboy on September 28, 2010, 04:16:09 AM
atempted...attempted

I wouldn't say failed.  I put on 35lbs in 2 months.
I saw how easy it was, then realize...this shit is for tools.
So, decided to put on 50lbs of lean mass using zero drugs.

You show some respect clown.
Maybe consider asking me for training tips and not making bad jokes, then you'd have a chance at gaining half what I did on your own stud.

Then train natural and shut up & leave it at that, stud. 
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Luolamies on September 28, 2010, 04:27:02 AM
Then train natural and shut up & leave it at that, stud. 

x2
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Tapeworm on September 28, 2010, 04:46:29 AM
really I heard it increases your sex drive

My desire for sex correlates 1-1 with how long it's been since I last ejaculated.  What can I say, I'm a guy.  Stopping sperm makin' meant less desire for me.  Others may differ.  Hcg makes me a grunting hump machine.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: slacker on September 28, 2010, 08:31:44 AM
 8)
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: WEIBK on September 28, 2010, 11:47:00 AM

STEROIDS ARE VERY HAEMFUL, IF USED WITHOUT CONTROL OR CONSULTATION. IT HAS VERY BAD SIDE EFFECTS ON ALL BODY ORGANS, SPECIALLY PROSTATE, LIVER, KIDNEYS, BRAIN, BLOOD VESSELS, HEART, AND OTHERS. I WAS HAVING  A VERY CLOSE FRIEND DIED DUE TO OVERDOSES OF STEROIDS.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Playboy on September 28, 2010, 11:54:37 AM
STEROIDS ARE VERY HAEMFUL, IF USED WITHOUT CONTROL OR CONSULTATION. IT HAS VERY BAD SIDE EFFECTS ON ALL BODY ORGANS, SPECIALLY PROSTATE, LIVER, KIDNEYS, BRAIN, BLOOD VESSELS, HEART, AND OTHERS. I WAS HAVING  A VERY CLOSE FRIEND DIED DUE TO OVERDOSES OF STEROIDS.
keep listening to the media  ;)
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: slacker on September 28, 2010, 08:48:30 PM
STEROIDS ARE VERY HAEMFUL, IF USED WITHOUT CONTROL OR CONSULTATION. IT HAS VERY BAD SIDE EFFECTS ON ALL BODY ORGANS, SPECIALLY PROSTATE, LIVER, KIDNEYS, BRAIN, BLOOD VESSELS, HEART, AND OTHERS. I WAS HAVING  A VERY CLOSE FRIEND DIED DUE TO OVERDOSES OF STEROIDS.
is any of this true
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Man of Steel on September 28, 2010, 08:51:32 PM
Front: Steroids..

Back: When you want to feel like you accomplished something, but really achieved nothing
 :D

New shirt idea.  What do you guys think?

Front:  Steroids....

Back: the only side effect is greatness.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: slacker on September 28, 2010, 09:00:49 PM
Front:  Steroids....

Back: the only side effect is greatness.
ive only heard good things
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: MB_722 on September 28, 2010, 09:06:03 PM
No.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Croatch on September 28, 2010, 10:46:49 PM
Front:  Steroids....

Back: the only side effect is greatness.
Yeah, but that couldn't be further from the truth.

Steroids...
Because kicking ass on your own,
isn't for everyone
BOOM!

Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: WEIBK on September 29, 2010, 12:51:46 AM
keep listening to the media  ;)

NO MY FRIEND , I HAVE A LOT INFORMATION ABOUT STROIDS, HORMONES, AND OTHER DRUGS RELATED.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Wiggs on September 29, 2010, 02:15:40 AM
Crotch, you're full of shite...
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Luolamies on September 29, 2010, 02:47:08 AM
NO MY FRIEND , I HAVE A LOT INFORMATION ABOUT STROIDS, HORMONES, AND OTHER DRUGS RELATED.

If you are such an expert on PED's then why can't you spell STEROIDS correctly, even once?

Crotch, you're full of shite...

Agreed.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Captain Equipoise on September 29, 2010, 04:28:51 PM
atempted...attempted

I wouldn't say failed.  I put on 35lbs in 2 months.
I saw how easy it was, then realize...this shit is for tools.
So, decided to put on 50lbs of lean mass using zero drugs.

You show some respect clown.
Maybe consider asking me for training tips and not making bad jokes, then you'd have a chance at gaining half what I did on your own stud.


Hahaha... msg me when u come close to looking anything like me...

oh and don't change your story now, before you said you did them and didn't get good results..now all of a sudden you put on 35lbs on them... something looks sketchy..
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Captain Equipoise on September 29, 2010, 04:32:05 PM
Shirt idea:

STEROIDS:

For when you wanna upgrade your bicycle to a car

or

When you're ready to make the gains it took you to make in 10 years in a month
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Croatch on September 29, 2010, 09:45:05 PM
Hahaha... msg me when u come close to looking anything like me...

oh and don't change your story now, before you said you did them and didn't get good results..now all of a sudden you put on 35lbs on them... something looks sketchy..

How do you look?  I haven't seen a shot up of you.
I wouldn't say my results were bad, but more water weight than anything.
Steroids are a lot like eating pizza, do enough, you'll gain weight.
Or smoking weed, smoke enough, you'll get high.
It's so easy, it's laughable.  You can tell yourself whatever you'd like, most people don't give roid users any respect...including me.
Kick ass on your own, everything else is make believe...like Peter Pan.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Stavios on September 29, 2010, 09:51:55 PM
low doses are probably safe

but us, bodybuilders, don't take low doses.
So without being hypocrites, we should all agree that yes steroids are probably harmful

but what isn't harmful these days
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Croatch on September 29, 2010, 10:01:36 PM
low doses are probably safe

but us, bodybuilders, don't take low doses.
So without being hypocrites, we should all agree that yes steroids are probably harmful

but what isn't harmful these days
Brutal roid user rationalization...haha
I love this one.  It's like watching "Bigger, Faster, Stronger".
I'd rather here, "Yeah, I gear up.  Know there are risks and don't care."
Nothing worse than comparing roid use to eating cheeseburgers...get real.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Stavios on September 29, 2010, 10:03:58 PM
Brutal roid user rationalization...haha
I love this one.  It's like watching "Bigger, Faster, Stronger".
I'd rather here, "Yeah, I gear up.  Know there are risks and don't care."
Nothing worse than comparing roid use to eating cheeseburgers...get real.

Never said I don't care about the risks
I do care, but I made the choice

the thing is if I get sick someday, you won't hear me bitch about it that's for sure
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Croatch on September 29, 2010, 10:08:37 PM
Never said I don't care about the risks
I do care, but I made the choice

the thing is if I get sick someday, you won't hear me bitch about it that's for sure

Sounds good.  Just don't be one of these fools saying, "Even Vitamin C can be dangerous."
haha

I'm guessing, in moderate doses, it's fine for the most part.  If it weren't, guys like Cutler would be dropping dead within 5 years....yet...are not.
Of course, your genetics determine how susceptible you are to getting kidney problems, etc.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Stavios on September 29, 2010, 10:15:35 PM
Sounds good.  Just don't be one of these fools saying, "Even Vitamin C can be dangerous."
haha

I'm guessing, in moderate doses, it's fine for the most part.  If it weren't, guys like Cutler would be dropping dead within 5 years....yet...are not.
Of course, your genetics determine how susceptible you are to getting kidney problems, etc.

yop exactly !

I am pretty sure people can use 500mg of test a week all their life without having any problem that's for sure.

but who uses only 500mg ?  :-\
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: slacker on October 01, 2010, 08:14:21 PM
SO ARE STEROIDS SAFE
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Natural Man on October 01, 2010, 08:19:59 PM
Sounds good.  Just don't be one of these fools saying, "Even Vitamin C can be dangerous."
haha

I'm guessing, in moderate doses, it's fine for the most part.  If it weren't, guys like Cutler would be dropping dead within 5 years....yet...are not.
Of course, your genetics determine how susceptible you are to getting kidney problems, etc.

get back on the sauce and stfu alrdy, you re annoying. You look like an addict who tries to convince everyone aout the bad side of an addiction yet cant stop thinking about the moment he ll get hooked on it, succumbing to his addiction. 
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: slacker on October 04, 2010, 01:47:40 PM
get back on the sauce and stfu alrdy, you re annoying. You look like an addict who tries to convince everyone aout the bad side of an addiction yet cant stop thinking about the moment he ll get hooked on it, succumbing to his addiction. 
wtf you talking about willis
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Lord of the Roidz on October 05, 2010, 01:04:44 PM
yop exactly !

I am pretty sure people can use 500mg of test a week all their life without having any problem that's for sure.

but who uses only 500mg ?  :-\
I don't know...I've looked phenomenal on 500 mg test a week...then again, I look pretty good now and I've been clean for 10 years.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Croatch on October 05, 2010, 01:41:27 PM
wtf you talking about willis
Yes, wtf is this clown speaking of.
Who is talking about the bad side of steroids?  I just mock the fools who pretend to be jacked, nothing more.
I could care less about roid side effects and if they're ok for your health in moderate doses.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: MAXX on October 05, 2010, 01:54:29 PM
Hahaha... msg me when u come close to looking anything like me...

post a pic then
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Fatpanda on October 05, 2010, 02:01:24 PM
groink is still alive despite his rampant steroid abuse so no i don't think they are harmful.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: disturbia on October 05, 2010, 02:02:47 PM
post a pic then

you havent seen his pic?
I have
dude is huge,....and lean,....but I think that pic was on Alex's old board if I remember correctly, Capt Equi might have to verify this
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on October 05, 2010, 02:07:34 PM
STEROIDS ARE VERY HAEMFUL, IF USED WITHOUT CONTROL OR CONSULTATION. IT HAS VERY BAD SIDE EFFECTS ON ALL BODY ORGANS, SPECIALLY PROSTATE, LIVER, KIDNEYS, BRAIN, BLOOD VESSELS, HEART, AND OTHERS. I WAS HAVING  A VERY CLOSE FRIEND DIED DUE TO OVERDOSES OF STEROIDS.

what an idoit :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on October 05, 2010, 02:15:27 PM
Yeah, but that couldn't be further from the truth.

Steroids...
Because kicking ass on your own,
isn't for everyone
BOOM!



do you live in some bizarre parallel universe where doing more work, for a longer period of time, with less results ..................is somehow meritorious??




do you follow suit in other aspects of your life..........like when you need to dig out the foundation for your house, do you use a shovel as opposed to a backhoe 

do you drive a bicycle instead of a car??


steroids are a tool, that facilitate the accomplishment of physical goals ..........if you wanna be natural fine, but stop deluding yourself into thinking it more then what it is

you dont get a trophy for doing more work, to accomplish the same goals as everyone else........usually you just get left behind
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Croatch on October 05, 2010, 04:18:04 PM
do you live in some bizarre parallel universe where doing more work, for a longer period of time, with less results ..................is somehow meritorious??




do you follow suit in other aspects of your life..........like when you need to dig out the foundation for your house, do you use a shovel as opposed to a backhoe 

do you drive a bicycle instead of a car??


steroids are a tool, that facilitate the accomplishment of physical goals ..........if you wanna be natural fine, but stop deluding yourself into thinking it more then what it is

you dont get a trophy for doing more work, to accomplish the same goals as everyone else........usually you just get left behind
Tell yourself what you have to chief.  I'd bet $100 when someone asks you a question regarding steroid in a real life situation, you don't chime your tale of valor to them.
Remember, there are 2 types of people in a gym.
1. People who kick ass
2. People who pretend to kick ass
There is no in between.  Most take gear because they can't accomplish much without them, even better, good gains with them.
Training natural is not some huge feat.  But, someone who takes drugs to train is just sad to me, and guess what....most people outside this message board.  Wake up.
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Stavios on October 05, 2010, 07:36:24 PM
I don't know...I've looked phenomenal on 500 mg test a week...then again, I look pretty good now and I've been clean for 10 years.

you are lucky then, cause 500mg doesn't do much for me.

Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: slacker on October 05, 2010, 07:41:54 PM
Tell yourself what you have to chief.  I'd bet $100 when someone asks you a question regarding steroid in a real life situation, you don't chime your tale of valor to them.
Remember, there are 2 types of people in a gym.
1. People who kick ass
2. People who pretend to kick ass
There is no in between.  Most take gear because they can't accomplish much without them, even better, good gains with them.
Training natural is not some huge feat.  But, someone who takes drugs to train is just sad to me, and guess what....most people outside this message board.  Wake up.
I use because it takes the pain away.  I dont get sore. my joints and muscles recover way quicker and I feel way better while ON 
I feel like superman
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: slate on October 05, 2010, 08:13:37 PM
I took them because they made my clitoris grow larger and improved my dementia, but then I was told they may cause long term damage to my soul or something. However after ronaldo said it was OK now I've just doubled it, and something (cant remember what, for some weird reason) is growing even larger
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: slacker on October 05, 2010, 08:32:30 PM
I took them because they made my clitoris grow larger and improved my dementia, but then I was told they may cause long term damage to my soul or something. However after ronaldo said it was OK now I've just doubled it, and something (cant remember what, for some weird reason) is growing even larger
gawd your a fucking idiot
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: saucetradomous on October 05, 2010, 08:39:00 PM
gawd your a fucking idiot

or a genius!
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: slacker on October 05, 2010, 08:40:37 PM
or a genius!
if you really believe that your also an idiot
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: saucetradomous on October 05, 2010, 08:44:58 PM
if you really believe that, you're also an idiot

Idiot ;)
Title: Re: Steroids - Are they harmful?
Post by: Croatch on October 06, 2010, 11:47:02 AM
I took them because they made my clitoris grow larger and improved my dementia, but then I was told they may cause long term damage to my soul or something. However after ronaldo said it was OK now I've just doubled it, and something (cant remember what, for some weird reason) is growing even larger
Brilliant. ;D