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Title: 2010 Olympia - The 202lb contest cannot be the 210lb contest!
Post by: Wiggs on September 26, 2010, 02:52:49 AM
If the bodybuilders in the 202 class are competing, they should be maximum 202.....This crap that English and Correa pull by going up to 210-215 is bullcrap and unfair....It's called 202 for a reason...
Title: Re: Bob this needs to be changed in the name of fairness.
Post by: mass243 on September 26, 2010, 03:06:57 AM
Who gives a shit about 202 anyway?

That's like Formula 1's having a crap series inside the F1... "You guys can't drive and have shitty cars so drive in your own F1-mini-class..." 

What a joke. Feel free to have weight classes in amateurs but in professional league? WTF?


Or think about it being in NFL:
"You guys are so small and slow that you can't keep up with us so come and play in your own NFL-losers-class before our real games"

Or in NHL:
"You guys are homos and can't skate so come and play in your own little NHL-homo-class for 5 mins before our real games that people pay to see"

I don't get it! Can you see now after my examples how stupid this 202-thingy is?

If you are not able to be a professional then fucking go to amateur-level again! Plain and simple.
Title: Re: Bob this needs to be changed in the name of fairness.
Post by: jwb on September 26, 2010, 03:07:12 AM
English looked about 225!
Title: Re: Bob this needs to be changed in the name of fairness.
Post by: churbro on September 26, 2010, 05:46:42 AM
I thought they weighed them before the show and they were all on or under the limit?
Or do you mean they should be under 202 all year round?
Title: Re: Bob this needs to be changed in the name of fairness.
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on September 26, 2010, 06:00:15 AM
If the bodybuilders in the 202 class are competing, they should be maximum 202.....This crap that English and Correa pull by going up to 210-215 is bullcrap and unfair....It's called 202 for a reason...



i agree, they should either way them before going on stage

or make a limit on how may pounds a guy can re-feed

like not go over 205 at any time





i know that is overcomplicating things..............




but also you gotta look at it this way..........each of the competitors have the sme opportunity to put weight back on after weighing in,. so its not like anyone has an unfair advantage

except for kevin english,..........cause he is obviously pulling some kind of voo doo.......like havign an organ temporarily removed
Title: Re: Bob this needs to be changed in the name of fairness.
Post by: Chick on September 26, 2010, 08:48:39 AM
If the bodybuilders in the 202 class are competing, they should be maximum 202.....This crap that English and Correa pull by going up to 210-215 is bullcrap and unfair....It's called 202 for a reason...

That strategy could easily backfire as well...No different than boxers or wrestlers making weight.  trust me, you can only put on so much between weigh in and prejudge without fuckin it up...Whatever their carbing method is up to the individual, but they all must make the weight...It's fair
Title: Re: Bob this needs to be changed in the name of fairness.
Post by: Stavios on September 26, 2010, 08:52:59 AM
That strategy could easily backfire as well...No different than boxers or wrestlers making weight.  trust me, you can only put on so much between weigh in and prejudge without fuckin it up...Whatever their carbing method is up to the individual, but they all must make the weight...It's fair
agreed
Title: Re: 2010 Olympia - The 202lb contest cannot be the 210lb contest!
Post by: Ron on September 26, 2010, 09:44:04 AM

They made weight when they were weighed in - if they want to increase pounds that quickly, how much conditioning will they lose?   
Title: Re: 2010 Olympia - The 202lb contest cannot be the 210lb contest!
Post by: Bobby on September 26, 2010, 09:55:27 AM
as the title suggests they should weigh 202 or under WHEN competing.
Title: Re: Bob this needs to be changed in the name of fairness.
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on September 26, 2010, 10:00:25 AM
English looked about 225!

So did Kai, and he was 280.
Title: Re: 2010 Olympia - The 202lb contest cannot be the 210lb contest!
Post by: Ex Coelis on September 26, 2010, 10:03:21 AM
just call it the short class

if that hurts their little feelings then too damn bad

the class will never evolve if the top guys have to loss muscle to compete
Title: Re: 2010 Olympia - The 202lb contest cannot be the 210lb contest!
Post by: Disgusted on September 26, 2010, 10:12:44 AM
Erik if you are reading this buddy go back to the 202 weight that made you pro!
Title: Re: 2010 Olympia - The 202lb contest cannot be the 210lb contest!
Post by: jude2 on September 26, 2010, 10:19:58 AM
202 are you kidding me.
Title: Re: 2010 Olympia - The 202lb contest cannot be the 210lb contest!
Post by: Stavios on September 26, 2010, 10:20:26 AM
Erik if you are reading this buddy go back to the 202 weight that made you pro!
he looked fucking amazing back then

I think he was like 205 when he turned pro
Title: Re: 2010 Olympia - The 202lb contest cannot be the 210lb contest!
Post by: Disgusted on September 26, 2010, 10:32:06 AM
he looked fucking amazing back then

I think he was like 205 when he turned pro

No he was 202, I talked to him and his trainer after the show.
Title: Re: 2010 Olympia - The 202lb contest cannot be the 210lb contest!
Post by: Stavios on September 26, 2010, 10:37:26 AM
No he was 202, I talked to him and his trainer after the show.

that's pretty good considering he beat guys who were probably 230 carbed up
Title: Re: 2010 Olympia - The 202lb contest cannot be the 210lb contest!
Post by: flexingtonsteele on September 26, 2010, 11:35:57 AM
he'd be top 5 at the 202 show if he stepped on stage lookin like that last nite.

Title: Re: 2010 Olympia - The 202lb contest cannot be the 210lb contest!
Post by: MB on September 26, 2010, 11:36:28 AM
They're weighed on Wednesday for a Saturday show.  Someone like Kevin is probably 220 by Saturday.  These guys should be weighed on Friday.
Title: Re: 2010 Olympia - The 202lb contest cannot be the 210lb contest!
Post by: Disgusted on September 26, 2010, 11:42:14 AM
that's pretty good considering he beat guys who were probably 230 carbed up

Yeah I actaully think he looked better at the weighin. He prob weighed a tad more on stage. I asked him why he didn't drop to the LH and they said that they were just going to go for the best look and not worry about weight. Sometimes this is a good move although a mass monster could have thrown a wrench into things, but I'm sure they knew who was in the show that year so it worked out.
Title: Re: Bob this needs to be changed in the name of fairness.
Post by: MCWAY on September 27, 2010, 05:36:18 AM
That strategy could easily backfire as well...No different than boxers or wrestlers making weight.  trust me, you can only put on so much between weigh in and prejudge without fuckin it up...Whatever their carbing method is up to the individual, but they all must make the weight...It's fair

I don't get the point of this class, anyway. It'd be one thing, if they were doing this old-school with the winner of this class, facing the an "over 202" weight-class winner for the overall.

Plus, English and Henry have proven they can compete in the open ranks. I believe in 2008, English won the 202 class at the NY Pro and placed second in the open to Kai Greene. Both English and Henry compete at the 202 class and open Olympia that same year (Wasn't that rule change made, because English actually made more money than Greene at the NY Pro?).

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Title: Re: 2010 Olympia - The 202lb contest cannot be the 210lb contest!
Post by: MCWAY on September 27, 2010, 05:40:00 AM
Erik if you are reading this buddy go back to the 202 weight that made you pro!

WHAT?

Last time I checked, superheavyweight minimum is 225. That's the class Farkhouser won, en route to the overall NAC title and his pro card.

Correction - He won the heavyweight class, not the Supers; I keep confusing his name with Kirk DeFrancesco, who has yet to turn pro (but is a superheavyweight).