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After yesterday, Phil's physique has surpassed anything Levrone has ever brought...better than 2000 Mr. O and 94 O.
Discuss
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After yesterday, Phil's physique has surpassed anything Levrone has ever brought...better than 2000 Mr. O and 94 O.
Discuss
Levrone still has bigger shoulders especially traps compared to Phil.
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Levrone still has bigger shoulders especially traps compared to Phil.
Overall who is better? Very similar physiques. Heath kills him in back double bi, absolutely destroys him
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i agree, heath has really made some improvements.
if he can keep his gut in check i believe he could dominate this sport for a long long time.
i say this because he trains smart i.e. avoids injuries and trying to feed his ego.
he is well spoken, he sounds intelligent and motivated about the sport.
i do worry that he will keep pushing the boat drug wise and the sides will destroy him, like it did with dorian, coleman, ruhl, james, cutler, etc all of these guys have hit amazing peaks then it eventually caught up to them......
i hope heath is different, as i believe he could spark a new age of bodybuilding.
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Levrone owns him.
How so? Convince me.
Arms: Heath
Legs: Heath
Backdouble Bi: Heath
Rear Lat spread: Levrone
Ab and thigh Heath
Most Muscular: Heath
Conditioning: Heath
Symettry: Heath
Side Chest: Levrone
Side Tri: Heath
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How so? Convince me.
Arms: Heath
Legs: Heath
Backdouble Bi: Heath
Rear Lat spread: Levrone
Ab and thigh Heath
Most Muscular: Heath
Conditioning: Heath
Symettry: Heath
Side Chest: Levrone
Side Tri: Heath
i'd give the lat spread to heath too, levrone had a pathetic back imo
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Both suck.
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Id go as far to say that Heath is better than Wheeler and Ray also in his young career.
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How so? Convince me.
Arms: Heath
Legs: Levrone
Backdouble Bi: Heath
Rear Lat spread: Levrone
Ab and thigh Levrone
Most Muscular: Levrone
Conditioning: Tie
Symettry: Heath
Side Chest: Levrone
Chest: Levrone
Traps: Levrone
Side Tri: Tie
Fixed
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How so? Convince me.
Arms: Heath
Legs: Heath
Backdouble Bi: Heath
Rear Lat spread: Levrone
Ab and thigh Heath
Most Muscular: Heath
Conditioning: Heath
Symettry: Heath
Side Chest: Levrone
Side Tri: Heath
Structure:Levrone
Conditioning:Heath
Arms:even
Chest:Levrone
Abs:Levrone
Back:Heath
Thighs Heath
Hamstrings:Heath
Shoulders:Even
Back DB:Heath
Back Lat:Levrone
Side chest:Levrone
Side tricep:Levrone
Abs and thighs:Heath
Most M:even
Front DB: Levrone
Front Lat:Even
Would be epic matchup.
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Fixed
You're smokin'
Levrone's legs are a liability. Phil destroys Levrone in most muscular. Tie on Triceps
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Id go as far to say that Heath is better than Wheeler and Ray also in his young career.
Hard to say, different eras competiting now. It's like saying Rockel is better than Lebrada
(http://www.learn-bodybuilding.com/pro_bodybuilders/kevin_levrone/kevin_levrone11.jpg)
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If you say Heath is better than Levrone then by default the fridge is too.
Ain't no way I'm buying that.
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I'd say Levrone because he's wider than Heath. I think Heath is better than Wheeler though.
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If you say Heath is better than Levrone then by default the fridge is too.
Ain't no way I'm buying that.
No defaults because the general public will never feel Jay is then Sergio Oliva or Flex Wheeler.
Heath is Better than Levrone thats it....Between Jay and Levrone I don't care for either of their physiques.
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If you say Heath is better than Levrone then by default the fridge is too.
Ain't no way I'm buying that.
Fridge is not better than any of the greats, including Heath, mentioned. I dont care how many O's he wins.
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You're smokin'
Levrone's legs are a liability. Phil destroys Levrone in most muscular. Tie on Triceps
Levrone used to measure up with Quadzilla...Levrone's legs only became a liability after his back injury and they were down in 99-00's, the 1997-1998 Levrone was a beast that Phil couldn't handle...
And remember Flex came second to Ronnie in 1998, Phil (of the distant future) wouldn't be able to hang...even with Flex a tad off, his superior lines would highlight Phil's flaws, and remember it was said that if Flex came in his 1998 Arnold shape, there is a big possibility that he would have won...
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Levrone used to measure up with Quadzilla...Levrone's legs only became a liability after his back injury and they were down in 99-00's, the 1997-1998 Levrone was a beast that Phil couldn't handle...
And remember Flex came second to Ronnie in 1998, Phil (of the distant future) wouldn't be able to hang...even with Flex a tad off, his superior lines would highlight Phil's flaws, and remember it was said that if Flex came in his 1998 Arnold shape, there is a big possibility that he would have won...
Youre right, the biggest challenge to the version Phil heath presented yesterday would be Levrone from 97-98.
I just see Flex getting killed from the back by Heath. Flex had one of the best back double bi's, but his hams and glutes were smooth in 98/99. Heaths back double bi is just as good and his hams glutes are shredded. And Heath is a tad better in the lat spread. I still think Heath would win cause he is bigger and shredded everywhere.
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Youre right, the biggest challenge to the version Phil heath presented yesterday would be Levrone from 97-98.
I just see Flex getting killed from the back by Heath. Flex had one of the best back double bi's, but his hams and glutes were smooth in 98/99. Heaths back double bi is just as good and his hams glutes are shredded. And Heath is a tad better in the lat spread. I still think Heath would win cause he is bigger and shredded everywhere.
Bingo on Heath and Levrone in 97-98 when he was 260 would fall to Heaths conditioning.
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Levrone was a beast, i'm not sure i'd put him behind Phil.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IlsDlZ1-N9s/TBJT897XRZI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/BBvHC0-DITU/s400/KevinLevrone97.jpg)
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Wiggs go check the 1999 British Grand Prix, that's all I have to say.
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Wiggs go check the 1999 British Grand Prix, that's all I have to say.
All Lighting....Look at everyone in that show...Dex looked his best and that was 11 years ago...Phil would look incredible under that.
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No defaults because the general public will never feel Jay is then Sergio Oliva or Flex Wheeler.
Heath is Better than Levrone thats it....Between Jay and Levrone I don't care for either of their physiques.
I really think you're underrating Levrone's physique. A very good argument could be made he's one of the 10 best bodybuilders ever.
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Youre right, the biggest challenge to the version Phil heath presented yesterday would be Levrone from 97-98.
I just see Flex getting killed from the back by Heath. Flex had one of the best back double bi's, but his hams and glutes were smooth in 98/99. Heaths back double bi is just as good and his hams glutes are shredded. And Heath is a tad better in the lat spread. I still think Heath would win cause he is bigger and shredded everywhere.
when on it was Flex...we all remember this back shot...
(http://www.anabolic-steroids.blogspot.com/flex-wheeler.jpg)
(http://www.isteroids.com/bodybuilding/images/flex_wheeler4.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rDNyQdDXib8/ScoGp1dyvcI/AAAAAAAAEJ0/0En6DM-tpXA/s400/FlexWheeler2.jpg)
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i think it's possible to play these match ups. ok...last night was phil's best. what does kevin's best look like with today's drug regimes and kev knowing that phil is there instead of shawn and flex given phil isnt mr o just yet? kev still has better clavicle structure than phil.
compared to yrs gone by...last night wasnt a great o lineup. come on guys. politics to the side....some had branch ahead of phil...not just jay.
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After yesterday, Phil's physique has surpassed anything Levrone has ever brought...better than 2000 Mr. O and 94 O.
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When posting a thread like this why not post up some comparison pics you lazy fuck! LOL.
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You have to see them stood next to each other.
I mean when Phil show up at the individual routine in the prejudging I couldn't believe what I was seeing but when I saw him at the line up sth wasn't there.
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I can't find any back poses of levrone, that's probably the decider, but :
(http://contests.flexonline.com/images/contests/large/86459.jpg)
(http://www.learn-bodybuilding.com/pro_bodybuilders/kevin_levrone/kevin_levrone11.jpg)
(http://maknutricion.com/img/imgpersonas/kevin-levrone.jpg)
(http://contests.flexonline.com/images/contests/large/86378.jpg)
(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3149/kevinlevrone97.jpg)
:o
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Levrone...done and done
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not the best shot
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better
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levrone....done and done
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(http://contests.flexonline.com/images/contests/large/86407.jpg) (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=349766.0;attach=384519;image)
Phil has him here in the rear double
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Hard to say, different eras competiting now. It's like saying Rockel is better than Lebrada
(http://www.learn-bodybuilding.com/pro_bodybuilders/kevin_levrone/kevin_levrone11.jpg)
:o :o :o
Sorry, Levrone over Heath any day.
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Phil shouldnt NEVER even be in the same sentence as Kevin. Kevin is a legend. He was massive with the structure of a track star/sprinter. . Phil looks like a 16 year old buy in puberty who hasnt developed any clavicles yet.
Take any black kid off the street, pump em full of drugs and two years and I will show you another phil Heath and thats the truth, In most cases will look better because its rare for a brother to have such narrow shoulders as that homo Phil.
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Phil is awesome, but not yet there with the best of Kevin.
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It's a tough one. I think they are very close. I think that can really be justified either way depending on the judging. It's not like asking if Phil is better than Craig Titus or someone else where the answer is obvious. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think it's obvious. It depends on the pose I think.
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Kevin by a landslide
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Levone beats Phil
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lol holy fuck levrone was a monster.
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Levrone wins everyday of the week for the sole reason that Phil is a fucking loser in the free pose. Phil is a newbe to bodybuilding and poses like Mike Quinn and Laura's Mike A. Levrone was a cool mother fucker back in the day. Phil is a Kamali screamer on stage. :-\
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After yesterday, Phil's physique has surpassed anything Levrone has ever brought...better than 2000 Mr. O and 94 O.
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shut the fuck up "wiggs" heath gets LEVROWNED in every way and you've always had some sort of vendetta against Mr. Levrone, heck you even say shawn ray is better ::)
get over the LevrOWNING you experienced already
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Phil Heath beats all the best versions of these two.
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Heath owns levrone in the gut department.
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Levrone > Phil.
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Levrone would slaughter Phil, if they both would be on the same stage in their prime.
"Phil..who?"
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Levrone is better because he is white
;D
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Levrone is better because he is white
;D
Half White
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Half White
And half amazing 8)
;D
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I like Kev better
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idiotic question, offcourse was levrone better. he was twice as wide as well.
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How so? Convince me.
Arms: Heathequal
Legs: Heath
Backdouble Bi: Heath
Rear Lat spread: Levrone
Ab and thigh Heathequal
Most Muscular: Heathlevronw
Conditioning: Heath levrone
Symettry: Heathlevrone
Side Chest: Levrone
Side Tri: Heathlevrone
front lat spread: levrone
plus the fact that there's a decade between them i think levrone does pretty well.
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You are all crazy. Heath owns Kevin.
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(http://i40.tinypic.com/2vs16xj.jpg)
(http://i35.tinypic.com/8wi0rm.jpg)
enough said.
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Kev before he started going ott with the synthol in the shoulders. He has a far better skeletal structure and better lines than Phil.
Phil looks like he is made out of play doh, not a look i like.
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(http://i40.tinypic.com/2vs16xj.jpg)
(http://i35.tinypic.com/8wi0rm.jpg)
enough said.
phil may be bigger, not sure? but he doesnt have the same visual impact. Levrone had great tie-ins
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Phil is awesome, but not yet there with the best of Kevin.
word to the mothership
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Its close, but I think Phil could get the edge even if is a little narrower. Levrone just wasn't complete, his back severly lagged behind and his calves were too small. Both at their primes: equal conditioning, I'm not sure if Phil would be bigger, it seems so.
Now, I've read some guys post that Phil is better than prime Flex. Are you people crazy?
Prime Flex is almost unbeatable, only Ronnie and Dorian could surpass him.
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Levrone at his best, before the legs went MIA, was better than Heath. '93 and '95 Levrone still tops Heath. Traps, abs, chest are Lervone's by far.
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heath doesnt look like he trains with clothes on, kevin absolutely. its an insult to compare that little twat with levrone.
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Levrone no comparision
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:o :o :o
Sorry, Levrone over Heath any day.
Exactly, Heath is all arms and disappears from the back. Dont get me wrong, he looks awesome but is missing the graininess Levrone had.
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Peope dn't realize how much better the 90's were and how much more competitive it was back then. Look at any O' edition from 92 to 98-99 included and probably
any guy who placed top 6 during those years would be Mr O today.
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Exactly, Heath is all arms and disappears from the back. Dont get me wrong, he looks awesome but is missing the graininess Levrone had.
Levrone's back always lagged behind the rest of his upper body. Have you seen Phil's BDB as this O? His back is pretty thick.
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In all this, I've seen one backshot of Levrone....That says alot....why? His back double bi sucked....legs sucked for many years of his career.
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Peope dn't realize how much better the 90's were and how much more competitive it was back then. Look at any O' edition from 92 to 98-99 included and probably
any guy who placed top 6 during those years would be Mr O today.
agree, just look at this clip alone.
its a joke these days
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agree, just look at this clip alone.
its a joke these days
and that's a grand prix show...not the O or A. i love the late 90s videos because they are only the precursor to the monster Ronnie became. Phil is a small dude no matter the drug induced size and will never be a ronnie even if in the end they give him 6 Os.
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and that's a grand prix show...not the O or A. i love the late 90s videos because they are only the precursor to the monster Ronnie became. Phil is a small dude no matter the drug induced size and will never be a ronnie even if in the end they give him 6 Os.
No one said Phil was Ronnie, were just saying he's better than Flex, Wheeler, Ray and Cormier...
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No one said Phil was Ronnie, were just saying he's better than Flex, Wheeler, Ray and Cormier...
I hope you're joking. I appreciate your posts mostof the time but you're way out of line here. Phil better than Flex '93? No way, not even close. Cormier '99? Try again. Ray at his best? Closer but I don't hink so
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No one said Phil was Ronnie, were just saying he's better than Flex, Wheeler, Ray and Cormier...
No, not any of them.
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No one said Phil was Ronnie, were just saying he's better than Flex, Wheeler, Ray and Cormier...
you're full of it ...wiggs. you just wait til that lil sucker wins 2 Os. these douchebags will start the Ronnie comparisons.
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;)
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:o
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looking again levrone has heath on shoulders, but heath wins on everything else.
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looking again levrone has heath on shoulders, but heath wins on everything else.
You mean Esciline Levrone? His shoulders weren't even his...he was all esiciline it's well known....Heath is probably an SEO guy but at least his shit is real...
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:o
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This is not even close....Levrone wins this one all day
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even levrones father would beat heath in a posedown.