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Title: 2010 Olympia - Phil Heath vs. Jay Cutler - Narrow vs. Wide
Post by: Wiggs on September 29, 2010, 02:22:32 AM
Jay aint 5'9...Phil is.  Jay is 5'8.

Title: Re: Jay and Phil, then and now.
Post by: LatsMcGee on September 29, 2010, 02:24:18 AM
Friends til the end.....
Title: Re: Jay and Phil, then and now.
Post by: Parker on September 29, 2010, 02:28:24 AM
Jay aint 5'9...Phil is.  Jay is 5'8.


Phil had more of a defined square jaw, before hopping up his stack. Now, even dieted down, he still has a moonface.
Title: Re: Jay and Phil, then and now.
Post by: Wiggs on September 29, 2010, 02:30:48 AM
Happens to them all at some point.
Title: Re: Jay and Phil, then and now.
Post by: LatsMcGee on September 29, 2010, 02:34:01 AM
I figured both of them were around 6 ft 5 since they are taller than Bob Chick. 
Title: Re: Jay and Phil, then and now.
Post by: Parker on September 29, 2010, 02:43:14 AM
Happens to them all at some point.
Bigger nose too, just like Ronnie's GH use gave him bigger lips, he looked like Mushmouth from Fat Albert.
Title: Re: Jay and Phil, then and now.
Post by: roccoginge on September 29, 2010, 02:45:25 AM
look at the striations in the abs of Jay.
Title: Re: Jay and Phil, then and now.
Post by: Parker on September 29, 2010, 02:48:44 AM
look at the striations in the abs of Jay.
I see Phil having a thicker chest than Jay.
Title: Re: Jay and Phil, then and now.
Post by: TRIX on September 29, 2010, 02:57:06 AM
Your point? Doesnt that just make him even more massive for his height?
Title: Re: Jay and Phil, then and now.
Post by: Pollux on September 29, 2010, 05:38:57 AM
Dammit, colored boy! I was gonna post this.  >:(
Title: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: Matt C on September 29, 2010, 06:06:07 PM
I read this was from a recent MuscleTech shoot.

Discuss.
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: Wiggs on September 29, 2010, 06:08:06 PM
Like I said before, Phil is no longer narrow. 
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: HTexan on September 29, 2010, 06:08:45 PM
phil is narrow?  ???
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 29, 2010, 06:11:08 PM
Like I said before, Phil is no longer narrow. 

You can't change clavicle width , you can only add thickness to your delts to try and offset it .
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: Wiggs on September 29, 2010, 06:14:14 PM
You can't change clavicle width , you can only add thickness to your delts to try and offset it .

Which is part of your mass, which would make you no longer narrow...I'm not talking bone structure, I'm talking mass period...

Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: Matt C on September 29, 2010, 06:17:04 PM
Like I said before, Phil is no longer narrow.  

phil is narrow?  ???

It's like when they say Phil has a small chest.  At what point will this dialogue end?  I find that notions tend to stick around until long after they have been proven wrong.  At what point will the whole of humanity accept evolution?  It is still rejected by billions all over the world.  Look at how long it took communism to collapse in the former Soviet Union.  Look at how long it is taking Keynesianism to collapse in the west today.

But then, people to this day think Kevin Levrone was narrow for some reason.  I guess this is just something I don't understand.  But it is bodybuilding and bodybuilding is ultimately subjective.  Having said that, Phil's width is an objective measurement so I don't see how someone can call him narrow.  I certainly do not think he is.
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: FREAKgeek on September 29, 2010, 06:18:11 PM
it's cause his arms are so big
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: jtsunami on September 29, 2010, 06:53:53 PM
check out phils gut in that picture  :o 
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: MAXX on September 29, 2010, 07:25:13 PM
Phils skeletal structure is pretty narrow but he made up for it with muscle.

(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_P8C3559wtmk.JPG)
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: jude2 on September 29, 2010, 07:27:26 PM
Now that is some calves on a black guy.
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: Parker on September 29, 2010, 07:31:38 PM
it's cause his arms are so big
Actually his arms aren't that big, Jay's arms are as big or bigger, Phil's just has highly detailed arms, with very thick tris, just look how the lateral head pops out while looking at them straight on...Flex had the said thing going on, so does Roelly, and Kev
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: HTexan on September 29, 2010, 09:30:08 PM
jay can't hold phil's jockstrap.
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: delta9mda on September 29, 2010, 09:33:08 PM
Like I said before, Phil is no longer narrow. 
he is the same narrow as he was. his clavicles did not get longer, his delts are bigger that is all.

jay is killing him.
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: cswol on September 29, 2010, 09:35:03 PM
ANYONE AND EVERYONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT BBING, KNOWS PHIL HEAT IS THE REAL 2010 MR. OLYMPIA, NOT JAY CUTLER!
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: Matt C on September 29, 2010, 09:38:16 PM
ANYONE AND EVERYONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT BBING, KNOWS PHIL HEAT IS THE REAL 2010 MR. OLYMPIA, NOT JAY CUTLER!

Phil honestly looked amazing.

The best way I can describe my thoughts would be to say that I will not be losing sleep over Jay beating Phil but that I would also not have lost sleep if the situation was reversed.

When Jay won in 2007 I couldn't sleep for a month!  :-X
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: The True Adonis on September 29, 2010, 09:42:34 PM
jay can't hold phil's jockstrap.
Would you be willing to hold Phil`s or Jay`s jockstrap?
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: jaejonna on September 29, 2010, 10:00:10 PM
i wish i was that narrow ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: drmarkp on September 29, 2010, 10:32:11 PM
phil is narrow?  ???

Phil isn't narrow, he just has small lats. Look at him closely.
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: G_Thang on September 29, 2010, 10:32:26 PM
Phils skeletal structure is pretty narrow but he made up for it with muscle.

(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_P8C3559wtmk.JPG)

jesus...that’s a terrible top 6

1. wolfe - no change in 4yrs
2. ronnie - dont belong
3. jay - shoulders balance him out
4. phil - odd balloon delts but still dental floss narrow
5. branch - actually good balance because he is so compact but torn lat is distraction
6. dex - just being dex

JUST HORRIBLE!
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: jaejonna on September 29, 2010, 10:50:07 PM
Branch's torn lat expose-a-mundo .... it looks bad there...

Agree the Top 6 is a hodge podge of who has the least weaknesses ....no nearly complete BB's like 1999 Cormier up there...
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: galain on September 30, 2010, 12:15:27 AM
Heath's clavicle width doesn't seem to be 'that' much less than some of the others. His pecs have very unfortunate insertion points - if I'd point at anything being narrow on him it'd be his pecs. Can't do much about that though - they're as developed as they're going to get - he just doesn't have the insertions that the others do. I think that hurts him in terms of looking wide.
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: Tito24 on September 30, 2010, 12:17:49 AM
looks like jay is a small guy too afterall.
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: DK II on September 30, 2010, 12:23:52 AM
looks like jay is a small guy too afterall.

Jay has the typical swimmer's physique, and Phil is totally narrow with no lats, no chest and funny delts.

Thanks god that getbiggers aren't bodybuilding judges, lol!!!
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: TRIX on September 30, 2010, 01:23:52 AM
(http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af242/BODYBUILDINGGOD/beastmode.jpg)
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: d0nny2600 on September 30, 2010, 01:24:36 AM
jesus...that’s a terrible top 6

1. wolfe - no change in 4yrs
2. ronnie - dont belong
3. jay - shoulders balance him out
4. phil - odd balloon delts but still dental floss narrow
5. branch - actually good balance because he is so compact but torn lat is distraction
6. dex - just being dex

JUST HORRIBLE!

Add a prime Coleman in there and its no contest yet again
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: Matt C on September 30, 2010, 01:35:10 AM
I understood the narrow comments somewhat before but I do believe that Phil has big enough shoulders to offset it at this point.
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: TRIX on September 30, 2010, 01:43:03 AM
Phil isnt that narrow its just jay is so wide, its mainly his pec shape and pec width
Title: Re: Jay and Phil, then and now.
Post by: Figo on September 30, 2010, 03:45:15 AM
they've both made remarkable changes

Heath to his physique

Jay to his hair
Title: Re: Jay and Phil, then and now.
Post by: 240 is Back on September 30, 2010, 05:52:46 AM
just the finishing 2% fellahs
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: MB on September 30, 2010, 06:52:02 AM
Phil's narrow structure gets exposed when he raises his hands up (front double bi).  His lats look narrow because of this.  It will be hard for Phil to win the Olympia unless Jay retires, Wolf keeps going nowhere, and Victor & Kai keep blowing their condition.
Title: Re: Jay and Phil, then and now.
Post by: Meso_z on September 30, 2010, 07:15:45 AM
Phil had the perfect body for the generall public. not too small and not too big. and arms for the girls and cougars of course... ;D
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: Tito24 on September 30, 2010, 08:21:47 AM
Phil isnt that narrow its just jay is so wide, its mainly his pec shape and pec width

hi phil
Title: Re: Jay and Phil, then and now.
Post by: CalvinH on September 30, 2010, 10:46:23 AM
Mind bogaling info right here folks!
Title: Re: Narrow Phil Heath vs. Wide Jay Cutler.
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 30, 2010, 10:52:16 AM
In the picture, Phil is sitting with a more open stance and more straight up. Jay is in a closed stance with his arms crossing each other and slouched over. If Jay was to sit straight up, then we could see a major difference ;)
Title: Re: 2010 Olympia - Phil Heath vs. Jay Cutler - Narrow vs. Wide
Post by: Matt C on October 01, 2010, 12:44:21 AM
Looks like Jay is a little shorter than Phil after all.  When I saw Phil in person he looked to be at least as tall as me.  I am just a little bit over 5'9" in the morning and usually shrink to 5'8.5" at night.  At the time of day I saw Phil I would have been 5'9" or just barely under.

It's hard to say exactly, but I would peg Phil at somewhere between 5'8.5"-5'9.5" depending on the time of day, posture, etc.  But it's safe to say that whatever height Phil is, he is slightly taller than Jay.
Title: Re: 2010 Olympia - Phil Heath vs. Jay Cutler - Narrow vs. Wide
Post by: d0nny2600 on October 01, 2010, 03:05:08 AM
Looks like Jay is a little shorter than Phil after all.  When I saw Phil in person he looked to be at least as tall as me.  I am just a little bit over 5'9" in the morning and usually shrink to 5'8.5" at night.  At the time of day I saw Phil I would have been 5'9" or just barely under.

It's hard to say exactly, but I would peg Phil at somewhere between 5'8.5"-5'9.5" depending on the time of day, posture, etc.  But it's safe to say that whatever height Phil is, he is slightly taller than Jay.
Monster sweaty pits
Title: Re: 2010 Olympia - Phil Heath vs. Jay Cutler - Narrow vs. Wide
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on October 01, 2010, 03:07:26 AM
anyone notice how dramatically jay brought up his lagging right side this year, particularly the right thigh

a few years ago, it was a gigantic, very noticeable problem

but somehow he managed to catch the other side up
Title: Re: 2010 Olympia - Phil Heath vs. Jay Cutler - Narrow vs. Wide
Post by: Matt C on October 01, 2010, 01:35:11 PM
Monster sweaty pits

Are you saying I should switch from a deodorant to an antiperspirant?
Title: Re: 2010 Olympia - Phil Heath vs. Jay Cutler - Narrow vs. Wide
Post by: Lundgren on October 01, 2010, 01:38:59 PM
Me thinks he got leg extensions, just comepare his legs to jays. There much longer. Its make sense to as itd give a much better chance of carrying the o.