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UNFREAKINGBELIEVABLE! They don't even want them and blame us ::)
A coalition of Mexican mayors has asked the United States to stop deporting illegal immigrants who have been convicted of serious crimes in the U.S. to Mexican border cities, saying the deportations are contributing to Mexican border violence.
The request was made at a recent San Diego conference in which the mayors of four Mexican border cities and one U.S. mayor, San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders, gathered to discuss cross-border issues.
Ciudad Juarez Mayor Jose Reyes blamed U.S. deportation policy for contributing to his city's violence, saying that of the 80,000 people deported to Juarez in the past three years, 28,000 had U.S. criminal records -- including 7,000 convicted rapists and 2,000 convicted murderers.
Those criminal deportees, he said, have contributed to the violence in Juarez, which has reported more than 2,200 murders this year. Reyes and the other Mexican mayors said that when the U.S. deports criminals back to Mexico, it should fly them to their hometowns, not just bus them to the border.
But critics in America say the Mexican lawmakers are simply trying to pass the buck to the U.S. and its taxpayers. They say the Mexicans should take responsibility for their criminals, who are putting both Mexican and American lives in danger.
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U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement transports a majority of Mexican criminal aliens back to Mexico on buses. Since they're often held in U.S. detention centers near the border prior to deportation, busing them to Mexican border cities is much less expensive than flying them to the interior of the country.
Those convicted of crimes in the U.S. are required first to fulfill "any sentence imposed by the U.S. courts," ICE spokeswoman Virginia Kice told FoxNews.com.
She said all of the deportees are then inspected by Mexican immigration authorities when they arrive in Mexico, and if they are wanted for crimes in Mexico, they are also met by representatives from the Mexican Attorney General’s Office.
But if they don't have charges pending against them in Mexico, they are free men and women once they cross the border regardless of what they have done in the U.S.
Despite that, ICE says it recognizes the threat posed by Mexico's cartel-related crime and has been working closely with Mexican authorities to address it.
"Earlier this year, ICE suspended the removal of Mexican nationals with criminal records to Ciudad Juarez," Kice said. "…In addition to dedicating unprecedented manpower, technology and infrastructure resources to the border, ICE has also collaborated with Mexico to adapt its removal procedures in response to safety considerations."
And while criminal aliens continue to be repatriated to Mexico at other locations along the border, Kice said, "those removals are coordinated closely with Mexican authorities and advance notification is provided prior to the return of convicted violent offenders."
Juan Hernandez, founder of the Center for U.S.-Mexico Studies at the University of Texas at Dallas and former director of Mexico's Presidential Office for Mexicans, says he's spoken to the border city mayors, and they don't believe the U.S. is doing enough.
"Mexico believes that individuals who commit crimes in the United States should be prosecuted in the United States and not sent to Mexico to continue their performing of crimes," he told FoxNews.com.
Critics of the Mexican lawmakers say the U.S. is prosecuting the criminals in question, and if Mexico wants to keep them out of its border towns, then it should be up to Mexico to lock them up or transport them elsewhere.
"It's almost perverse that foreign officials would blame us for sending their criminals back to their country. Sovereignty entails responsibility. This country needs to take responsibility for its own criminals, and other countries -- Mexico included -- need to take responsibility for their own criminals and deal with them," Ira Mehlman, spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, told FoxNews.com.
But Hernandez, a dual citizen of both the U.S. and Mexico, says the U.S. can't wash its hands of this issue.
"The border will never totally be shut down because we don't want that to happen in the United States. Mexico is our second most important trading partner, there are close to one million people crossing legally every day between Mexico and the United States," Hernandez told FoxNews.com. "So we can be strict to the letter of the law and say these criminals are Mexico's problem, but it's not just their problem because it will come back to haunt the United States."
Melhman says in some cases it may be worth spending the extra time and money to fly criminals to the Mexican interior to lower the risk of them coming back over the border. But that decision, he says, needs to be made because it's deemed to be in the best interest of the U.S., not because of pressure from Mexico.
"Every day, American citizens are victimized by illegal alien criminals because, for political reasons, our government refuses to enforce immigration laws," he said. "…We need to put resources into protecting our own interests and making sure violence doesn't spread across our border."
Asked whether ICE planned to make any changes to its deportation policy since the conference, Kice simply said, "While ICE has suspended criminal alien removals to Cuidad Juarez, criminal aliens continue to be repatriated to Mexico at other locations along the border and to the interior of the country."
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Seriously? One of the biggest issues in this country and not one response?
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Seriously? One of the biggest issues in this country and not one response?
You shall soon see Vigilante justice soon. :-\ :-\ :-\ It is getting really bad here in the south with the Mexicans. :o :o :o
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Seriously? One of the biggest issues in this country and not one response?
I just reported it to the mods they should move this waste of time ASAP. Good luck with your rambling idiotic BS, in Politics board.
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Whhaaaattt? I cant believe this is happening with Obamas strict border policies and immigration laws ::)
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heres what we should be doing with these savages...............dr opping them in the middle of the ocean.........bye bye amimals
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Return them in body bags, problem solved
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The Guatemalans are coming by the millions and the Mexicans keep reproducing. The Mexicans are the ones who keep the Re-fried Bean industry in business. :-\ :-\
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Return them in body bags, problem solved
Gonna happen soon than you think, people are arming themselves on the AZ boarders
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The american goverment should charge mexico for all cost incurred in returning there shit. If not close down the border. You see the mexican goverment jumping through hoops.
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The american goverment should charge mexico for all cost incurred in returning there shit. If not close down the border. You see the mexican goverment jumping through hoops.
That would be like you paying a bill........it would never happen.
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The Guatemalans are coming by the millions and the Mexicans keep reproducing. The Mexicans are the ones who keep the Re-fried Bean industry in business. :-\ :-\
how are the guatamalans getting here, do they come through mexico?
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how are the guatamalans getting here, do they come through mexico?
More and more are coming from Ohio. >:( >:( >:( Why are they so fucking short? When you see one, you think you just say a "Leprechaun."
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More and more are coming from Ohio. >:( >:( >:( Why are they so fucking short? When you see one, you think you just say a "Leprechaun."
what does that mean..how do Guatamalans get to the US when they wanna get here illegally , mexicans can hop the border,.........but guatamalans cannot do that
so where do they come from?
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what does that mean..how do Guatamalans get to the US when they wanna get here illegally , mexicans can hop the border,.........but guatamalans cannot do that
so where do they come from?
Columbus, Ohio. >:( >:( >:( >:(
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heres what we should be doing with these savages...............dr opping them in the middle of the ocean.........bye bye amimals
No need to insult savages!!
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Columbus, Ohio. >:( >:( >:( >:(
ok, i guess the joke is over my head
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this is why i am moving to boise next summer, i dont want to live in arizona any longer. im sick of seeing people drive around with boycott arizona stickers on their car, and then watching them drive into walmart or the dollar store to buy they things.
arizona is going to be in serious trouble. you have a 30 percent unemployment rate here. you have undocumented workers undercutting those who really want to get a job and pay taxes and what not, but thats just not possible here. then factor in the racism and total lack of respect for the country they came to live in with their bumper stickers and flags.
i dont understand why they dont fix their own country, and take pride in that, instead of coming to our country and destroying it as well.
i am headed north, i dont want to be caught in this shitstorm any longer
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this is why i am moving to boise next summer, i dont want to live in arizona any longer. im sick of seeing people drive around with boycott arizona stickers on their car, and then watching them drive into walmart or the dollar store to buy they things.
arizona is going to be in serious trouble. you have a 30 percent unemployment rate here. you have undocumented workers undercutting those who really want to get a job and pay taxes and what not, but thats just not possible here. then factor in the racism and total lack of respect for the country they came to live in with their bumper stickers and flags.
i dont understand why they dont fix their own country, and take pride in that, instead of coming to our country and destroying it as well.
i am headed north, i dont want to be caught in this shitstorm any longer
Holy shit!! That is worse then MICHIGAN. :-\ :-\ :-\
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it doesnt matter one damn bit to me......obama doesnt have anything to do about this......the guys in charge of all of this are employed for life and are not running the play book well...
....i take all this border shit with a grain of salt anyways....i live in texas....and visit laredo on the regular....the media is blowing this shit way out of proportion....
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