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Title: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 30, 2010, 09:56:03 PM
...both 'sides' are just there to give the illusion of 'choice', both groups are controlled by the same handlers, the international banking elites/cartel/globalists. you know, the rothschilds, rockefellers, bilderberg group, etc.

the american political system does whatever wall street and the big corporations tell them/pay them to do.

its all just for show.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: MB_722 on September 30, 2010, 10:19:25 PM
...both 'sides' are just there to give the illusion of 'choice', both groups are controlled by the same handlers, the international banking elites/cartel/globalists. you know, the rothschilds, rockefellers, bilderberg group, etc.

the american political system does whatever wall street and the big corporations tell them/pay them to do.

its all just for show.

tookenough time.


I don't know, that's why I blacked it out.  ;) naming those names seems like a distraction to keep people from looking elsewhere.

it's a mafia. same unknowns, same fronts.

Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Cy Tolliver on September 30, 2010, 10:28:51 PM
THIS IS THE MOST ACCURATE POST OF THE POITICAL BOARD
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Arnold jr on September 30, 2010, 11:18:05 PM
The truth, there are progressives and there are non-progressives. Yes, there are differences in the various non-progressives but the long and short is there are progressives and non-progressives and the U.S. seems to have an infatuation with progressivism even if they don't fully realize it.

As long as people keep basing their decision on things like, "He seems more presidential" or "this person wants change" they will keep electing progressives.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 01, 2010, 03:34:31 AM
...both 'sides' are just there to give the illusion of 'choice', both groups are controlled by the same handlers, the international banking elites/cartel/globalists. you know, the rothschilds, rockefellers, bilderberg group, etc.

the american political system does whatever wall street and the big corporations tell them/pay them to do.

its all just for show.
spot on.... end of story...
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 01, 2010, 04:07:04 AM

By and large - yes I agree other than a few issues on the margin, guns, abortion, etc etc.  Here is what i usually see, the Dems pass all sorts of insane shit and people get pissed and toss them out.  The GOP wins on a platform of turning back the stupid shit the Dems do, but usually don't do dick and people get fed up again.  Its like a cycle of this crap.    

However, on local issues there is a massive difference.  The Dems completely run NYS, NYC, and it has never been this bad.  Both parties are not the same when it comes time to local governance.  Look at california, NY, IL, MI, etc.  

  
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 01, 2010, 04:16:40 AM

What I am most focused on right now, and what utterly pisses me off with both parties, is the lack of focus on domestic manufacturing and stupid trade agreements we never do shit about.  The asshole pols don't understand that if we don't have a way to have decent jobs for non-college grads, we are screwed on many many levels, and im not talking about service jobs.  We need industrial manufacturing!    

The GOP doesnt even give it lip service any more, and the Dems are giving a message - "we want manufacturing, but we want all sorts of energy hikes, regs, health mandates, etc etc too", which is utter nonsense.  

I could care less about the social issues like abortion and gay marriage, its the weakening of the nation that really pisses me off.  
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 01, 2010, 04:31:38 AM

I know exactly what is going on, and you need to go read that book I told you about.  

We are being set up to be a two class society - a massive serf class, and a tiny overlord class run by Buffetts, Gates, etc etc.  
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 01, 2010, 04:55:22 AM


The ultimate conclusion is that the pols of both parties by and large, not all, are the whores for the NWO types and are selling out the nation for 30 pieces of silver.  I have posted the KRS 1 video many times and its well worth watching again. All these massive 2000 page bills are a complete disaster.  All it takes is for there to be one sentence in one of those bills to give the govt complete control over many aspects of society.    

What do you think all this obamaCare, the food bill, Cap & trade, and other craziness is all about?  Its about impoversishing and controlling us all to make of serfs and slaves to the monied interests controlling these aspects of society, which we all depend on.  

This is why i don't mind the Rand Paul's, Palins, Paladino's, O'Donnell's, etc.  They come from the unwashed masses like most of us and are not bought and paid for.  Can they be corrupted and sell out?  Yes of course, but they have not been bought yet.  Is party of the tea party movement comprimised?  Yes!  

However, the Tea party people are going after both parties and I am aamzed at how when we take out the RINO filth, it is met with derision and scorn.  Its like people want the "safe" establishment picks due to familiarity or something or latch on to "But so and so went to Harvard",  "So and So is brilliant", blah blah blah.  I'm tired of these establishment scum who are all leading us off the cliff.  The snowes, collins, murkowskis, castles, dodd, schumer, etc etc.    

    

  
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: whork25 on October 01, 2010, 05:31:25 AM
I thought Obamacare was an effort to make medical insurance available to all and not just the rich? :P
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 01, 2010, 06:03:01 AM
for the rest, ignorance is bliss.....
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Arnold jr on October 01, 2010, 09:11:52 AM
I thought Obamacare was an effort to make medical insurance available to all and not just the rich? :P

It has and never had anything to do with that. It's only about power, always has been. When you control health care you can control everything...you can put anything under health care.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Deicide on October 01, 2010, 09:22:17 AM
So true yet this board is only full of 'those dems' and 'those repubs'...
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 01, 2010, 09:29:23 AM
So true yet this board is only full of 'those dems' and 'those repubs'...
yea,... "only" lol ::)  You mean dominated by...
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 01, 2010, 09:31:33 AM
yea,... "only" lol ::)  You mean dominated by...

Hugo - look at the demographics of this site.  this is the natural audicien for cons./libertarians types. 
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 01, 2010, 09:34:56 AM
We need a red pill board.  3333, you're so way not invited ;D
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 01, 2010, 09:37:25 AM
By and large - yes I agree other than a few issues on the margin, guns, abortion, etc etc.  Here is what i usually see, the Dems pass all sorts of insane shit and people get pissed and toss them out.  The GOP wins on a platform of turning back the stupid shit the Dems do, but usually don't do dick and people get fed up again.  Its like a cycle of this crap.    

However, on local issues there is a massive difference.  The Dems completely run NYS, NYC, and it has never been this bad.  Both parties are not the same when it comes time to local governance.  Look at california, NY, IL, MI, etc.  

  


lol...so thats what it is...dems do shit wrong initially...and the only wrong thing repubs do is sit around when dems do wrong shit? Other than that, repubs are cool?
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 01, 2010, 09:40:21 AM

lol...so thats what it is...dems do shit wrong initially...and the only wrong thing repubs do is sit around when dems do wrong shit? Other than that, repubs are cool?

The GOP usually leaves people alone and does not enact crazy schemes like cap & trade, obamacare, etc etc.  Yes they spend on stupid shit, but are nothing like the spendthrift socialists we have in the Dem party. 

On a local level, its not even close.  The Dems have utterly destroyed NY, MI, IL, and CA with their insanity.   
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Skeletor on October 01, 2010, 09:41:02 AM
So true yet this board is only full of 'those dems' and 'those repubs'...

True
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 01, 2010, 09:44:59 AM
The GOP usually leaves people alone and does not enact crazy schemes like cap & trade, obamacare, etc etc.  Yes they spend on stupid shit, but are nothing like the spendthrift socialists we have in the Dem party. 

On a local level, its not even close.  The Dems have utterly destroyed NY, MI, IL, and CA with their insanity.   
ok...so again..to recap
The Dems are bad for doing shit bad...point blank
The Repubs are only semi bad because they dont over turn the dems initial fuck up...

But all in all..if left to their own devices, Repubs are generally good?
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Mons Venus on October 01, 2010, 10:01:25 AM
...both 'sides' are just there to give the illusion of 'choice', both groups are controlled by the same handlers, the international banking elites/cartel/globalists. you know, the rothschilds, rockefellers, bilderberg group, etc.

the american political system does whatever wall street and the big corporations tell them/pay them to do.

its all just for show.

Both party's = Self serving ccocksuckers.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 01, 2010, 10:09:18 AM
ok...so again..to recap
The Dems are bad for doing shit bad...point blank
The Repubs are only semi bad because they dont over turn the dems initial fuck up...

But all in all..if left to their own devices, Repubs are generally good?

By and large yes.  my issue with the GOP is they never cut enough govt employees and programs. 
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 01, 2010, 10:15:31 AM
By and large yes.  my issue with the GOP is they never cut enough govt employees and programs. 

OK
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Mons Venus on October 01, 2010, 10:24:01 AM
By and large yes.  my issue with the GOP is they never cut enough govt employees and programs. 

Neither do. Pandering scuumbgs! >:(
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: BM OUT on October 01, 2010, 11:26:23 AM
Lets see,which party invented the idiotic war on poverty,section 8 housing,the community reinvestment act,the health care overahaul,welfare,union pay offs,social security,medicare,medicaide[all bankrupt].The democrat party and all liberals are the enemy of the country.Republicans are only slightly better because that party has been taken over by libs like McCain and Graham.But in comparrison to the democrats,sorry,no party has done more to centralise all the power in this country to Washington.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on October 01, 2010, 03:33:08 PM
ok, on smaller and loca levels there is a big difference on their policies.

but the higher up you go, the more they become the same.

once at the top, they sell out by either choice or force and simply do the bidding of their globalist masters, who stay behind the scenes.

look at bush- a strong conservative who once president, spent trillions and left a huge gaping hole.

look at obama- campaigned on reason, anti-war, left-leaning..then once president expands war in afghanistan, and continues or expands bush's constitutional abuses/secrecy.

once at the top they all do the same shit for the same people.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Deicide on October 01, 2010, 06:10:20 PM
ok, on smaller and loca levels there is a big difference on their policies.

but the higher up you go, the more they become the same.

once at the top, they sell out by either choice or force and simply do the bidding of their globalist masters, who stay behind the scenes.

look at bush- a strong conservative who once president, spent trillions and left a huge gaping hole.

look at obama- campaigned on reason, anti-war, left-leaning..then once president expands war in afghanistan, and continues or expands bush's constitutional abuses/secrecy.

once at the top they all do the same shit for the same people.

I wish people here would get this; sadly some never will.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: MB_722 on October 01, 2010, 08:42:32 PM
We need a red pill board.  3333, you're so way not invited ;D

rofl !1
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: MB_722 on October 01, 2010, 09:07:37 PM
 ::)

http://www.outlawjournalism.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6009 (http://www.outlawjournalism.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6009)

Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: whork25 on October 04, 2010, 03:00:00 AM
It has and never had anything to do with that. It's only about power, always has been. When you control health care you can control everything...you can put anything under health care.

So you prefer the power is in the hands of gready business men rather that the Government?
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2010, 04:01:10 AM
So you prefer the power is in the hands of gready business men rather that the Government?

Yes - it worked much better than where we are heading. 
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 07:21:09 AM
But in comparrison to the democrats,sorry,no party has done more to centralise all the power in this country to Washington.

abortion, same sex marriage, gay people in military, Weed...yeah...real decentralized  ::)
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: BM OUT on October 04, 2010, 07:29:40 AM
abortion, same sex marriage, gay people in military, Weed...yeah...real decentralized  ::)

Ummm,republicans are all for a vote state by state on abortion,are libs?California is about to decriminalise pot,what party is the governor from?Gay people in the military has nothing to do with a centralised government.Gays should not be in the military according to the vast majority of leaders in the military.Would I trust a filthy lib,or actual military people to make the call.Lets let the military vote on it.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 07:33:00 AM
Ummm,republicans are all for a vote state by state on abortion,are libs?California is about to decriminalise pot,what party is the governor from?Gay people in the military has nothing to do with a centralised government.Gays should not be in the military according to the vast majority of leaders in the military.Would I trust a filthy lib,or actual military people to make the call.Lets let the military vote on it.

No Republicans are by in large Anti Abortion legislation...Ask the repubs in this board, Collosal500, george whore, etc... California...yeah...one hand people say Arnold is a lib...but for your argument, you wanna claim him as a republican. Oh and anti pot is a widley held liberal Stance.. you know that.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: BM OUT on October 04, 2010, 07:36:30 AM
No Republicans are by in large Anti Abortion legislation...Ask the repubs in this board, Collosal500, george whore, etc... California...yeah...one hand people say Arnold is a lib...but for your argument, you wanna claim him as a republican. Oh and anti pot is a widley held liberal Stance.. you know that.

Most republicans are for banning abortion,but would be fine with a vote on it.Do a google search and see who is responsible for most drug laws and most drug policies in the history of this country.You will find its Liberal Joe Biden.

Now,how about seat belt laws,enviro laws,cafe standards,etc etc. no people in the history of this country want to regulate our lives like libs.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 07:37:53 AM
Most republicans are for banning abortion,but would be fine with a vote on it.Do a google search and see who is responsible for most drug laws and most drug policies in the history of this country.You will find its Liberal Joe Biden.

Now,how about seat belt laws,enviro laws,cafe standards,etc etc. no people in the history of this country want to regulate our lives like libs.

But they want to tell gay people they cant get married..but no they dont want to regulate our lives
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 07:38:19 AM
But they want to tell gay people they cant get married..but no they dont want to regulate our lives

So does Obama
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: BM OUT on October 04, 2010, 07:39:55 AM
So does Obama

So does Hilary,so does Joe Biden,so does Bill Clinton.Shall we go on?Hey,ever see what the people want?32 times its been on the ballot,32 times the people[including those in California]shot it down.So,please,you sound folish trying to say its only republicans.,
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 07:41:31 AM
So does Hilary,so does Joe Biden,so does Bill Clinton.Shall we go on?Hey,ever see what the people want?32 times its been on the ballot,32 times the people[including those in California]shot it down.So,please,you sound folish trying to say its only republicans.,

So is opposing gay marriage a liberal stance or a conservative stance...
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 07:46:28 AM
So is opposing gay marriage a liberal stance or a conservative stance...

Seems to be a black stance.


Why Are Blacks Against Gay Marriage?

Of all ethnic and racial groups, blacks are the most opposed to gay marriage, exit polls show. Why? Despite gays’ comparison of their struggle to the civil-rights struggle, this article says blacks see sexual orientation as “different from race,” and homosexuality as “a matter of character.”

http://ideas.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/24/why-are-blacks-against-gay-marriage/

Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 07:47:40 AM
Seems to be a Black stance.

So are you saying its not a predominant Conservative thing?
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: BM OUT on October 04, 2010, 07:48:47 AM
So is opposing gay marriage a liberal stance or a conservative stance...

Its an American stance!!!!32 times on the ballot,32 times defeated.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 07:49:41 AM
Most of California's Black Voters Backed Gay Marriage Ban


LOS ANGELES, Nov. 6 -- Any notion that Tuesday's election represented a liberal juggernaut must overcome a detail from the voting booths of California: The same voters who turned out strongest for Barack Obama also drove a stake through the heart of same-sex marriage.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/06/AR2008110603880.html
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 07:51:07 AM
Its an American stance!!!!32 times on the ballot,32 times defeated.

So its not mostly a conservative stance?
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 07:53:57 AM
So its not mostly a conservative stance?

are most blacks conservative?
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 07:55:13 AM
are most blacks conservative?

So is it a Conservative or Liberal Stance..and this is like number 5
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 07:57:07 AM

Most blacks vote for liberals, yet most blacks are against gay marriage.  How do you explain that ?
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: BM OUT on October 04, 2010, 07:58:37 AM
So its not mostly a conservative stance?

No,I think its a very very mainstream position that the vast majority of Americans support.The loony left doesnt support it,but the vast majority of Americans do.Im a libertarian so I couldnt care less if they got married or didnt get married.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 08:03:37 AM

Most blacks vote for liberals, yet most blacks are against gay marriage.  How do you explain that ?
So I'll ask again per Political Party Platforms, it the anti gay marriage a Republican party stance or a Democratic Party stance?
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 08:04:26 AM
Considering Obama is against gay marriage. seems to be both

Now answer my question:

Most blacks vote for liberals, yet most blacks are against gay marriage.  How do you explain that ?
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 08:05:50 AM
But you never answered my question..and i asked first..a long time ago..
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 08:10:20 AM
But you never answered my question..and i asked first..a long time ago..

I already answered your question:

Considering Obama is against gay marriage. seems to be both


Now answer my question:

Most blacks vote for liberals, yet most blacks are against gay marriage.  How do you explain that ?
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 08:16:34 AM
I already answered your question:


Now answer my question:

Most blacks vote for liberals, yet most blacks are against gay marriage.  How do you explain that ?
Knee Grows are against Gay Marriage because most knee grows have strong faith in the bible.. and to them religion trumps government.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: OzmO on October 04, 2010, 08:19:22 AM
I already answered your question:


Now answer my question:

Most blacks vote for liberals, yet most blacks are against gay marriage.  How do you explain that ?

I know you are not asking me, but here's what i think:

Most blacks are conservative.  People typically vote based on there needs.

You take an average person earning below average income and you see that person voting for candidates that support more public services that result in increased taxes.  that same person starts their own business or gets a job that puts them in a higher tax bracket and then they start seeing how much of "their" money goes to taxes and then they start voting conservative.  

the whole 2 party system is a sham.  Our representatives will do what ever there supporters tell them and what ever they have to do to get the funding to get reelected.  That's why a 3rd or 4th party is needed.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 08:20:26 AM
Knee Grows are against Gay Marriage because most knee grows have strong faith in the bible.. and to them religion trumps government.

Yet blacks vote for people who are for abortion, against gay marriage, against prayer in school and etc....

So it only "trumps" when it comes to gay marriage ?
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 08:26:44 AM
Yet blacks vote for people who are for Abortion, against gay marriage, against prayer in school and etc....

Well thats 1 issue..religion....cover s gay marriage and prayer in school...

But when that same black person works and gets home at 6...but dont make the money for child care..and their liberal candiate is for after school programs, she'll vote for the PERSON...

Or when a black person has been laid off but paid into Unemployment benefits, they will vote for the liberal that isnt trying to end it.

OR the person who cant afford private school will vote for more public funding when it comes to public schools..

I like how you slid the "person who is for abortion" vs "the actual bill"...
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 08:31:46 AM
Well thats 1 issue..religion....cover s gay marriage and prayer in school...

But when that same black person works and gets home at 6...but dont make the money for child care..and their liberal candiate is for after school programs, she'll vote for the PERSON...

Or when a black person has been laid off but paid into Unemployment benefits, they will vote for the liberal that isnt trying to end it.

OR the person who cant afford private school will vote for more public funding when it comes to public schools..

I like how you slid the "person who is for abortion" vs "the actual bill"...

So what you are saying is Religion for Blacks "trumps" government only when it doesn't effect them financially?
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 08:37:19 AM
So what you are saying is Religion for Blacks "trumps" government only when it doesn't effect them financially?

No..If each bill was voted on seperatley..the picture would be painted clear for you.

When voting for a Person, you wont agree with 100% of their platform. But when each issue is put to a bill seperatley, their religion will trump..As in the case of case of prop 8
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 08:51:37 AM
No..If each bill was voted on seperatley..the picture would be painted clear for you.

When voting for a Person, you wont agree with 100% of their platform. But when each issue is put to a bill seperatley, their religion will trump..As in the case of case of prop 8

So Religion for Blacks "trumps" government only when it doesn't effect them financially, so when voting for a politician that will benefit them financially, religion takes a back seat, and isn't that important... but when the Bill is on the Ballot separately, then they become Religious again ?
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 08:57:19 AM
So Religion for Blacks "trumps" government only when it doesn't effect them financially, as when voting for a politician that will benefit them financially, religion takes a back seat, and isn't that important, but when the Bill is on the Ballot separately, they become Religious again.

Oh yeah thats America. Finances trump all...
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2010, 09:11:25 AM
Well thats 1 issue..religion....cover s gay marriage and prayer in school...

But when that same black person works and gets home at 6...but dont make the money for child care..and their liberal candiate is for after school programs, she'll vote for the PERSON...

Or when a black person has been laid off but paid into Unemployment benefits, they will vote for the liberal that isnt trying to end it.

OR the person who cant afford private school will vote for more public funding when it comes to public schools..

I like how you slid the "person who is for abortion" vs "the actual bill"...

 ::)  ::)

no wonder most black areas never improve economically with idiotic beliefs like that. 
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 09:13:49 AM
::)  ::)

no wonder most black areas never improve economically with idiotic beliefs like that. 

Lmao..Blacks from 1968 to now...have shown Economic improvement in every sector of life.. were are you getting your stats from?
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2010, 09:15:06 AM
Lmao..Blacks from 1968 to now...have shown Economic improvement in every sector of life.. were are you getting your stats from?

Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, Mt. Vernon, Yonkers.   
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 09:17:45 AM
Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, Mt. Vernon, Yonkers.   

So black individuals as a whole havent improved steadily economically since the passage of Equal rights bill
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: George Whorewell on October 04, 2010, 09:34:04 AM
Lmao..Blacks from 1968 to now...have shown Economic improvement in every sector of life.. were are you getting your stats from?

Yeah, and most of them didn't do it on government cheese and free handouts. That's the irony here. Outside of Affirmative Action ( which is debatable and also a joke), can you name a single government social welfare program that has benefited the black community? Yet, the prisons are overwhelmingly filled with blacks, the per capita calculations on poverty, illiteracy, etc. are still more prevalent in the black community than in non black communities ( and I am including other minorities as non black as well, not just whites), the black community has the highest rate of illegitimacy and single parent households and when it comes to voting- Blacks vote democrat 10-1.

So, along with being conservative religiously and having made great strides WITHOUT these inept social programs-- how can you possibly justify voting democrat over and over again? Simple. Identity politics that are perpetrated by the democratic machine which depends on a permanent black UNDERCLASS to ensure reelection.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 09:41:42 AM
Knee Grows are against Gay Marriage because most knee grows have strong faith in the bible.. and to them religion trumps government

Oh yeah thats America. Finances trump all...

So in one post you say religion "trumps" Government, then in your other post, you say Government "trumps" all (including religion)

Make up your mind, which is the true 'trump"?

Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2010, 09:46:34 AM
Make up your mind, which is the true 'trump"?



"Whoever giving me shit fo free"   TRUMPS everything for most of these people. 
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 09:54:16 AM
"Whoever giving me shit fo free"   TRUMPS everything for most of these people. 

From reading his answers in this thread, it seems to be the case.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2010, 10:00:31 AM
From reading his answers in this thread, it seems to be the case.

I just got back from Brooklyn criminal court and let me tell you, every single middle class taxpayer should take a trip down and see where their hard earned tax dollars are being pissed away. 

Baby mamas rolling in with 5 kids, the thugs with their pants around their asses saying stuff like 'you, i here on some bs yo, I didnt even have much on me and he lock me up anyway".   The little babies are screaming and look poorly taken care of.  the fat pigs who bear these little babies look like they just rolled off the mattress and have guys sticking outside of the sweat pants.  "yo, my benes be in jepidty if boo dont call da man"  etc etc. 

Disgusting. 
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 10:19:17 AM
I just got back from Brooklyn criminal court and let me tell you, every single middle class taxpayer should take a trip down and see where their hard earned tax dollars are being pissed away. 

Baby mamas rolling in with 5 kids, the thugs with their pants around their asses saying stuff like 'you, i here on some bs yo, I didnt even have much on me and he lock me up anyway".   The little babies are screaming and look poorly taken care of.  the fat pigs who bear these little babies look like they just rolled off the mattress and have guys sticking outside of the sweat pants.  "yo, my benes be in jepidty if boo dont call da man"  etc etc. 

Disgusting. 

Are you sure you weren't at an ACORN Voter Drive Rally ?
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2010, 10:21:36 AM
Are you sure you weren't at an ACORN Voter Drive Rally ?

Know - i was amongst the people that support the policies Mal is talking about - more welfare, more health care, more socialist crap, more dependency on government, more grubby hands screaming for free shit from taxpayers, etc etc. 

I would put every one of these bums on a work farm growing food and learing a work ethic. 
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 10:34:32 AM
"Whoever giving me shit fo free"   TRUMPS everything for most of these people. 

ok..
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2010, 10:36:10 AM
ok..

Its sad . . . ..  but essentially true and you already conceded that.     
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 10:54:22 AM
Its sad . . . ..  but essentially true and you already conceded that.     

It would take me a month...and you still wouldnt get it...

Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2010, 10:58:47 AM
It would take me a month...and you still wouldnt get it...



No of course not, I only have lived in the Bronx my entire life and have no clue about the ghetto, inner city culture, etc.   ::)  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 11:00:20 AM
Thanks for your honesty.

honesty in what?
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 11:03:25 AM
honesty in what?

In your clarification as to what is the true "trump"
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 11:05:04 AM
In your clarification as to what is the true "trump"

Its always money. Thats not limited to blacks.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2010, 11:05:30 AM
In your clarification as to what is the true "trump"

gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme  - thats the entire agenda of the far left.  
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 11:06:39 AM
Its always money. Thats not limited to blacks.

That is not what you wrote earlier:

Knee Grows are against Gay Marriage because most knee grows have strong faith in the bible.. and to them religion trumps government.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2010, 11:09:49 AM
For a group of so called religious people - I did not hear a peep from "the religious black community" about obama's radical stance on abortion.  Not a peep or a sound. 

Hypocrites. 
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 11:09:58 AM
gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme  - thats the entire agenda of the far left.  

blacks or the left?
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 11:11:31 AM
That is not what you wrote earlier:


you asked why they opposed gay marriage...and its because of religion..but their kid being in an after school program has nothing to do with their religion
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 11:11:34 AM
For a group of so called religious people - I did not hear a peep from "the religious black community" about obama's radical stance on abortion.  Not a peep or a sound. 

Hypocrites. 

Very true.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 11:13:25 AM
you asked why they opposed gay marriage...and its because of religion..but their kid being in an after school program has nothing to do with their religion

So then once again, what you are saying, is that religion to blacks only "trumps" government when it doesn't effect them financially ?
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: BM OUT on October 04, 2010, 11:14:35 AM
you asked why they opposed gay marriage...and its because of religion..but their kid being in an after school program has nothing to do with their religion

So they need government to do it for them because they cant do it themselves?The Churches have a collection ever sunday,that money cant be used for such things as after school programs,it must be sent to Obama so democrats can win elections and then steal the money for their programs from those of us that work.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 11:14:45 AM
For a group of so called religious people - I did not hear a peep from "the religious black community" about obama's radical stance on abortion.  Not a peep or a sound. 

Hypocrites. 

I didnt know abortion was a religios issue. I thought that was a life and death issue and further an issue on when life starts.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 11:15:20 AM
So then once again, what you are saying, is that religion to blacks only "trumps" government when it doesn't effect them financially ?

they are seperate issues one not having to do with the other
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2010, 11:16:40 AM
So they need government to do it for them because they cant do it themselves?The Churches have a collection ever sunday,that money cant be used for such things as after school programs,it must be sent to Obama so democrats can win elections and then steal the money for their programs from those of us that work.

You ever see the mansion Rev. Wright lives in?

Also, with respect to Rev. Wright - that disgusting pig literally got a woman in his congregation to cheat on her husband with him, divorce him, and then he married her.  He used his position of rev to do it.  It was all outlined in Dineshs' book.  

  
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 11:17:14 AM
"A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul."
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 11:18:01 AM
the money for their programs from those of us that work.

Im a public school kid with afterschool programs because both parents worked and got off at 6 while school lets out at 3.

After school programs are for parents who do work.. What why they are needed
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2010, 11:18:21 AM
I didnt know abortion was a religios issue. I thought that was a life and death issue and further an issue on when life starts.

 ::)  ::)

Keep kneepadding bro - keep kneepadding.  
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: BM OUT on October 04, 2010, 11:19:07 AM
Im a public school kid with afterschool programs because both parents worked and got off at 6 while school lets out at 3.

After school programs are for parents who do work.. What why they are needed

Paid for by MY tax money!!!We have our kid in an after school program as well,paid for by the families that send the kid there ZERO government funds needed.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 11:19:54 AM
::)  ::)

Keep kneepadding bro - keep kneepadding.  

U made it an obama thing. im talking about abortion...I know he dominates your mind and you blame him for rain today, but at some point the Obama mania going on in your mind has to stall
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2010, 11:20:31 AM
Im a public school kid with afterschool programs because both parents worked and got off at 6 while school lets out at 3.

After school programs are for parents who do work.. What why they are needed

Maybe if the disgusting leviathon govt did not steal these kids' parents income one would be able to stay home. 
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2010, 11:23:21 AM
U made it an obama thing. im talking about abortion...I know he dominates your mind and you blame him for rain today, but at some point the Obama mania going on in your mind has to stall

Read Dineshs' book - if you dare - and get the pixy dust out of your eyes as to what is going with this govt.  You, like the other 91% of blacks supporting Obama and this insane agenda - are clueless. 

The differences between the parties are not so much as who is in office as it is who voted for these people.  Most people who vote GOP want the govt to leave them alone and out of their lives. 

Most people who vote Dem want a cradle to grave govt.   

That is the difference.   
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 11:24:27 AM
I didnt know abortion was a religios issue. I thought that was a life and death issue and further an issue on when life starts.

Then you don't know much.


You could start with reading Jeremiah 1:5
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 11:25:44 AM
MY tax money!!

bitch my mother has made more than 100k since 1988 and it has gone up every year. My pop has made 100k since 1992. So their tax money has paid for me and many others in LA for after school programs. YOU can kill yourself with that jack.


Wait...unless you lived in Cali.. Our school programs are state funded...so i know it sounds good and all to say "My tax money" but im sure my family has paid more in taxed fed and state than you have..
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2010, 11:27:41 AM
bitch my mother has made more than 100k since 1988 and it has gone up every year. My pop has made 100k since 1992. So their tax money has paid for me and many others in LA for after school programs. YOU can kill yourself with that jack.


Wait...unless you lived in Cali.. Our school programs are state funded...so i know it sounds good and all to say "My tax money" but im sure my family has paid more in taxed fed and state than you have..

Fine - I hope they feel they got their monies' worth. 

As for me, I prefer not to get raped by the govt to pay for all this stuff. 
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 11:28:14 AM
Read Dineshs' book - if you dare - and get the pixy dust out of your eyes as to what is going with this govt.  You, like the other 91% of blacks supporting Obama and this insane agenda - are clueless. 

The differences between the parties are not so much as who is in office as it is who voted for these people.  Most people who vote GOP want the govt to leave them alone and out of their lives. 

Most people who vote Dem want a cradle to grave govt.   

That is the difference.   

Dude you wont let it go.. I dont blindly support obama. I again and again will tell you i dont like the soft obama care...i did that a week ago. But between Obama and McCain...I think i chose the right guy.. I voted for hillary in the primaries...so before you go again with your sweeping statements, get some facts jack.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 11:29:50 AM
Fine - I hope they feel they got their monies' worth. 

As for me, I prefer not to get raped by the govt to pay for all this stuff. 

Did you go to private school?
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 11:33:40 AM
Then you don't know much.


You could start with reading Jeremiah 1:5

So is abortion is wrong in your mind?
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2010, 11:35:03 AM
Did you go to private school?

I went to a small catholic school that my parents paid for since they did not want me shipped to other party of the city in a horrible nabe so that the city scumbags could meet their "diversity" quotas.  The NYC public school system was a complete disaster back then.  Typical far left failures all around.    

My friends who did go to the public schools told me of unspeakable behavior by the little animals who would have been better off in the bronx zoo in a cage than having tax dollars pissed away on them.  

Do you want me to start with the ones who pissed on cop cars or the ones who attacked the teachers with scissors?  Or how about the 12 y/o showing up prego?  

 
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2010, 11:37:26 AM
Dude you wont let it go.. I dont blindly support obama. I again and again will tell you i dont like the soft obama care...i did that a week ago. But between Obama and McCain...I think i chose the right guy.. I voted for hillary in the primaries...so before you go again with your sweeping statements, get some facts jack.

Fine - but its not just obamaCare that is part of this destructive admn.  All of these crazie policies are set out to intentionally destroy the nation.  I know its hard to believe, but its true. 
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 11:38:51 AM
So what we can take form this thread is:

"Knee Grows are against Gay Marriage because most knee grows have strong faith in the bible.. and to them religion trumps government. "

But Blacks have no problem with Obama stance on Abortion, or other pro abortion Politicians Religious points of view, including abortion. as long as they vote to fund after school programs.  



Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 11:39:38 AM
I went to a small catholic school that my parents paid for since they did not want me shipped to other party of the city in a horrible nabe so that the city scumbags could meet their "diversity" quotas.  The NYC public school system was a complete disaster back then.  Typical far left failures all around.    

My friends who did go to the public schools told me of unspeakable behavior by the little animals who would have been better off in the bronx zoo in a cage than having tax dollars pissed away on them.  

Do you want me to start with the ones who pissed on cop cars or the ones who attacked the teachers with scissors?  Or how about the 12 y/o showing up prego?  

 
or we can talk about the one who created the westcoast offense, like Bill Walsh who is a product of public school
orLarry Elder, attended freshman year, transferred to nearby Crenshaw High School, talk show host.
Hugh McElhenny, class of 1947, former NFL All-Pro running back. 1952 NFL Rookie of the year.
Bill Walsh, NFL coach, attended freshman year (1947) and transferred to Hayward High School
Johnny "J", Record Producer and close friend of Tupac Shakur
Eva Marcille, class of 2002, model and actress
Mark Fields, former NFL linebacker
James Lofton, former wideout for the Green Bay Packers
Dennis Northcutt, wide receiver for the Jacksonville Jaguars
Yo-Yo (rapper), rapper and actress
Gil Garcetti, class of 1959, Los Angeles District Attorney 1996-2000. Currently fine-arts photographer
Glen Mowrer, class of 1958, Public Defender of Santa Barbara County 1975-1999, Green Party candidate for Attorney General, CA, 2002.
Stewart Alexander politician
Esther Williams class of 1939, retired American competitive swimmer, film star with many roles as swimmer and diver.
Ernie Shelton, NCAA champion high jumper, 1955–56
Joel Wachs class of 1957, Los Angeles Councilman, 2nd District, 1971-2000. Currently president of NY City "Andy Warhol Foundation."
WC (Rapper)
Candace I. Kimble, TV/film director
Kori Dickerson, tight end for the Canadian Football League Hamilton Tiger-Cats and previously played with the NFL Europe Hamburg Sea Devils and the National Football League Detroit Lions and Philadelphia Eagles.
Barbara Billingsley, actress (Leave It to Beaver)
Teresa Graves (January 10, 1948 – October 10, 2002) Class of '65 was an American actress and singer. As the star of Get Christie Love!, Graves is credited as being the first African American woman to star in her own hour long drama television series.[
Roderick "Roddy" Wright, Class of 1970. California State Assemblyman 1996 - 2002. CA State Senator 2009 -
Wendy Raquel Robinson, actress, class of '84


And thats just my high school
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 11:40:25 AM
So what we can take form this thread is:

"Knee Grows are against Gay Marriage because most knee grows have strong faith in the bible.. and to them religion trumps government. "

But Blacks have no problem with Obama stance on Abortion, or other pro abortion Politicians Religious points of view, including abortion. as long as they vote to fund after school programs.  





bingo
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Option D on October 04, 2010, 11:41:17 AM
Fine - but its not just obamaCare that is part of this destructive admn.  All of these crazie policies are set out to intentionally destroy the nation.  I know its hard to believe, but its true. 

destroy the nation...and then what...
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: James on October 04, 2010, 11:44:24 AM
bingo

Then what you have described is not the behavior of people who have a strong faith in the Bible, but the behavior of homophobes, because if they were against gay marriage because of the Bible, then they would also be against abortion and against pro-abortion politicians because of the Bible.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2010, 11:46:17 AM
destroy the nation...and then what...

The goal is to destroy what obama perceives as a fundamentally unfair system that resembles a colonialist oppresive regime that keeps down minorities, and other "un-priviged peoples" by collapsing the system and "transforming" it into one he believes is fair to all peoples in terms of re-distribution of wealth.  He believes that the only reason some people get ahead in this society is not by hard work or merit, but by inherent unfairness in the system allowing them to take advantage of others.  

Re-distribution of wealth from white, corporate, euro-america, and all the institutions of power obama perceives as being oopresive are his target - oil, health, cars, energy, etc.   these were the dreams from his father that obama is seeking to impose on the nation.  

Not that i have not said the same thing about him, but Dinesh uses his own words and actions to prove his point.  
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: BM OUT on October 04, 2010, 12:28:42 PM
The goal is to destroy what obama perceives as a fundamentally unfair system that resembles a colonialist oppresive regime that keeps down minorities, and other "un-priviged peoples" by collapsing the system and "transforming" it into one he believes is fair to all peoples in terms of re-distribution of wealth.  He believes that the only reason some people get ahead in this society is not by hard work or merit, but by inherent unfairness in the system allowing them to take advantage of others.  

Re-distribution of wealth from white, corporate, euro-america, and all the institutions of power obama perceives as being oopresive are his target - oil, health, cars, energy, etc.   these were the dreams from his father that obama is seeking to impose on the nation.  

Not that i have not said the same thing about him, but Dinesh uses his own words and actions to prove his point.  

Its obvious that is his plan.Just the shutting down of drilling in the gulf and the health care scheme is prrof of that.
Title: Re: there is no difference between the 2 'parties'
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2010, 12:33:09 PM
Its obvious that is his plan.Just the shutting down of drilling in the gulf and the health care scheme is prrof of that.

Billy - get this book - if you want pm me and I'll send you my copy.  Some of the stuff Dinesh goes into about obama's family back ground are unreal.  You don't know whether to pity the guy or be scared shit that someone like this is in high office. 

Ask GW - he read the book and its horryfing.