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Email Comments 646 Two new automated surveys on the California governors race confirm that Democrat Jerry Brown now narrowly leads Republican Meg Whitman by a narrow margin. Other new surveys released over the last 24 hours show Richard Blumenthal's lead holding in Connecticut, reconfirm the razor close margin in the Illinois Senate race and present something of a puzzle on the Ohio governor's race.
In California, the latest automated poll from SurveyUSA shows Brown leading by four percentage points (47% to 43%), while an update from Rasmussen Reports has Brown ahead by five (49% to 44%).
While the new surveys show the usual random variation, a clear shift in the data is evident: Over three weeks in late August and early September, five surveys (all but one automated) showed Whitman holding modest single-point advantages and winning between 47% and 51% of the vote. The seven surveys conducted since September 15, however, (including four using live interviewers) all show Whitman with less than 44% of the vote. While our standard trend estimate now shows Brown leading narrowly (46.2% to 44.6%), our more sensitive trend lines appear to more accurately capture the recent data and show Brown leading seven percentage points (48.8% to 41.8%).
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i hope those idiots vote for Brown. They will deserve every miserable thing that happens.
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i if she throws another 120 million of her own money i think she can pull even ;D
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(R)asmussen Reports has Brown ahead by five (49% to 44%).
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i if she throws another 120 million of her own money i think she can pull even ;D
I hope they do vote for Moon Beam. When the state collapses, they will still be clinging to enviro insanity, massive taxes, forcing productive taxpayers out of the state.
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I hope they do vote for Moon Beam. When the state collapses, they will still be clinging to enviro insanity, massive taxes, forcing productive taxpayers out of the state.
honestly, what would whitman do differently?
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honestly, what would whitman do differently?
She is a business woman and knowes how to read a balance sheet at least.
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honestly, what would whitman do differently?
This coming from the guy who asks "honestly what would McCain have done differently".
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This coming from the guy who asks "honestly what would McCain have done differently".
240 - why dont we take the last 100 threads you have posted and see what percentage are bashing the repubs and how many are bashing the dems?
As for Moon Beam - Calif voters voting for this are going to get everything they deserve - higher taxes, more regulation and mandate, more deficit, more enviro insanity, more taxpayers fleeing the state, higher UE, etc.
suckers.
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i hope those idiots vote for Brown. They will deserve every miserable thing that happens.
Fuck that. The rest of us have to live here too.
Jerry can govern SFran and the LA area. Meg can work for the rest of us.
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She is a business woman and knowes how to read a balance sheet at least.
from what i recall, she outsourced a shitload of american jobs. yeah, not sure that's what we're looking for.
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240 - why dont we take the last 100 threads you have posted and see what percentage are bashing the repubs and how many are bashing the dems?
I care about dog shit in my own yard. not so much about dog shit in the neighbor's yard.
People on getbig say it's okay for their yard to be covered in turds - because the neighbor's yard's turds smell worse.
Now, if youre done attacking me personally... why do you think whitman skipping 3rd debate despite her falling popularity?
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from what i recall, she outsourced a shitload of american jobs. yeah, not sure that's what we're looking for.
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Unreal. 240 - lately you never cease to amaze me with your posts. Embarassing would be a compliment at this point.
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Unreal. 240 - lately you never cease to amaze me with your posts. Embarassing would be a compliment at this point.
okay. youve attacked me. gotten it out of your system.
Now, please tell me what she did as a 'business woman' that was so awesome. Didn't she outsource a shitload of american jobs?
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okay. youve attacked me. gotten it out of your system.
Now, please tell me what she did as a 'business woman' that was so awesome. Didn't she outsource a shitload of american jobs?
Guess how many domestic jobs she created and were spun off out of Ebay? tens of thousands.
240 - honest to God - are you just playing this act lately for shits and giggles?
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from what i recall, she outsourced a shitload of american jobs. yeah, not sure that's what we're looking for.
240 = another blind union supporter. Jobs get outsourced because the labor costs or regulations makes doing the here impossible.
Address that and outsourcing won't happen.
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Do you guys realize that ebay created tens of thousands of jobs in this country by people forming their own small businesses of of this allowing people to work from home and turn garage sales and other crap into a job and employment?
240 - be honest - you are putting us on lately?
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eh, i take adversarial positions when this place is dead.
i have to laugh if anyone really thinks i'm serious ALL of the time. it's also funny how personally some ppl take a silly message board for debating.
remember, if we both agree 100% on an issue, one of us isn't necessary in that discussion ;)
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eh, i take adversarial positions when this place is dead.
i have to laugh if anyone really thinks i'm serious ALL of the time. it's also funny how personally some ppl take a silly message board for debating.
remember, if we both agree 100% on an issue, one of us isn't necessary in that discussion ;)
Some of us dont tolerate liars well.When a guy claims he voted for Bob Barr and then rants and raves about amnesty not even knowing Barr is an amnesty supporter,we see that as the guy being a liar or a dunce.
When we see a guy claiming he is a libertarian but supporting ANY aspect of the health care scheme,we think the guy is a liar or a fraud.
When we see a guy intent on attacking conservative women non stop,we say the guy is either gay or a pussy scared of strong women.
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Honestly, I don't see how you can not be "for" amnesty as a politician these days... Also, I don't understand why the idea of "amnesty" is some big deal.
You take the illegals... You say fine... You are here... You are now legal.
You give them a social security card and you say, "You will now pay taxes."
Then you stop having drug laws and you give everyone who is in prison for a drug violation their freedom.
Then, you start enforcing the immigration laws we have and you say, "If I find illegals, I will not deport you, I will lock you in prison."
I have no saved the prison industry, repealed most drug laws, and solved our immigration issues with one swoop.
Boom.
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Honestly, I don't see how you can not be "for" amnesty as a politician these days... Also, I don't understand why the idea of "amnesty" is some big deal.
You take the illegals... You say fine... You are here... You are now legal.
You give them a social security card and you say, "You will now pay taxes."
Then you stop having drug laws and you give everyone who is in prison for a drug violation their freedom.
Then, you start enforcing the immigration laws we have and you say, "If I find illegals, I will not deport you, I will lock you in prison."
I have no saved the prison industry, repealed most drug laws, and solved our immigration issues with one swoop.
Boom.
Here is the problem - the politicans always do the first thing, which is easy, but nwever get around to the hard part about enforcing the law. We have been down this road many many times before and the taxpayers know what will happen.
we will get flooded with millions more illegals knowing that so long as they stay here long enough, eventually the govt will get overwhwelmed again and just give in to them.
FUCK THAT - ILLEGALS NEED TO BE CATAPULTED OUT OF HERE ASAP - EVERY ONE OF THEM.
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Honestly, I don't see how you can not be "for" amnesty as a politician these days... Also, I don't understand why the idea of "amnesty" is some big deal.
You take the illegals... You say fine... You are here... You are now legal.
You give them a social security card and you say, "You will now pay taxes."
Then you stop having drug laws and you give everyone who is in prison for a drug violation their freedom.
Then, you start enforcing the immigration laws we have and you say, "If I find illegals, I will not deport you, I will lock you in prison."
I have no saved the prison industry, repealed most drug laws, and solved our immigration issues with one swoop.
Boom.
And since it's no big deal to break the laws, lets give amnesty to al criminals who are currently on the run, and tell the, "Hey if we catch you again, we are going to put you in jail (maybe)".
And then since the illegals now have SS cards, there is no doubt they will stop working under the table and committing the massive tax fraud they all do now, because, hey, they are going to all be legal and honest, law abiding citizens, right?
And aafter all the drug addicts and dealers get out, it will be ok if they hurt people while in a drug addled haze because we now will have Obama care, and thee injured will be able to get fixed, so what the hell, right?
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Here is the problem - the politicans always do the first thing, which is easy, but nwever get around to the hard part about enforcing the law. We have been down this road many many times before and the taxpayers know what will happen.
we will get flooded with millions more illegals knowing that so long as they stay here long enough, eventually the govt will get overwhwelmed again and just give in to them.
FUCK THAT - ILLEGALS NEED TO BE CATAPULTED OUT OF HERE ASAP - EVERY ONE OF THEM.
So how come it's ok for a mexican to break the law, and all that happens is he gets to get a free ride home, yet the cops rarely let any of the rest of us just go home after doing somthing bad?
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It's a pretty fucked situation when politicians on both sides don't want to do the right thing because they don't want to lose votes.
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So how come it's ok for a mexican to break the law, and all that happens is he gets to get a free ride home, yet the cops rarely let any of the rest of us just go home after doing somthing bad?
Exactly... Find them guilty of invading our country or something and put them in prison.
Once enough people are in prison, people will stop crossing illegally... Freedom is a powerful motivator.
Will my taxes pay for some prison shit... sure... but I guarantee you that once a few people are in prison for being illegal, they won't be trying to be illegal.
Since I've already fixed the issue about paying taxes, then I don't see why people wouldn't be on board with it.
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Exactly... Find them guilty of invading our country or something and put them in prison.
Once enough people are in prison, people will stop crossing illegally... Freedom is a powerful motivator.
Will my taxes pay for some prison shit... sure... but I guarantee you that once a few people are in prison for being illegal, they won't be trying to be illegal.
Since I've already fixed the issue about paying taxes, then I don't see why people wouldn't be on board with it.
Tu - no one trusts the govt to deport these scum bags after an amnesty goes through. Why dont they deport the assholes first?
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Tu - no one trusts the govt to deport these scum bags after an amnesty goes through. Why dont they deport the assholes first?
They don't deport them because the legals who are here will shit bricks... this is an instance where if you give them something, it will go a long way.
Don't give them anymore... no second chances... After the initial amnesty period, no breaks.
I personally think my plan is boss and I'm simply saying that if I were running shit, this is what I would do.
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Tu - no one trusts the govt to deport these scum bags after an amnesty goes through. Why dont they deport the assholes first?
Deporting them first or giving them amnesty won't do a dam thing to solve this problem until the borders are sealed properly. If you deport them they will be back very soon if you give them amnesty eventually ther will be moor illegals down the road.
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Until there is real consequence to sneaking across the border it's not going to stop.
If Uncle Jose left for the border, and nobody hears anything from him for the next 5 years because he's in a hard labor camp somewhere, the rest of them might think twice about doing it themselves.
Expecting illegals to not break the law by coming here (and then giving them free everything once here) is like leaving the door to the pantry open and expecting the rats not to come in because it's 'not right'.
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Exactly... Find them guilty of invading our country or something and put them in prison.
Once enough people are in prison, people will stop crossing illegally... Freedom is a powerful motivator.
Will my taxes pay for some prison shit... sure... but I guarantee you that once a few people are in prison for being illegal, they won't be trying to be illegal.
Since I've already fixed the issue about paying taxes, then I don't see why people wouldn't be on board with it.
You would need something much, much harsher than our current prison system, because honestly for a lot of the illegals it would be a step up.
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You would need something much, much harsher than our current prison system, because honestly for a lot of the illegals it would be a step up.
Work camps?
I am open to suggestions on punishment.
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Work camps?
I am open to suggestions on punishment.
Thats what I think. We have tons of infrastructure jobs that need to be done, how about helping fight fires in Cali, etc...? And I would set it up so that they could actually "build a resume" from the work they do so as to be a productive citizen when released.
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Thats what I think. We have tons of infrastructure jobs that need to be done, how about helping fight fires in Cali, etc...? And I would set it up so that they could actually "build a resume" from the work they do so as to be a productive citizen when released.
I'm open to that...
See... I'm better than politicians because I'm actually open to suggestions.
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How about a work camp where illegals caught inside of America are forced to work at Taco Bell for free until they pay off their debt to society. Upon satisfying the amount of money that they owe for breaking the law, they are deported. The method of deportation is as follows: Being driven across the border into the outskirts of towns that are currently Cartel strongholds. Individuals are then thrown out of moving vans handcuffed and blindfolded. = For first time offenders
Edited for content so that high school drop out and all around moron Hugo Chavez can no longer can pat himself on the back for catching a typo. ***
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How about a work camp where are :D illegals caught inside America are forced to work at Taco Bell for free until they pay off their debt to society. Upon satisfying the amount of money that they owe for breaking the law, they are deported. The method of deportation is as follows: Being driven across the border into the outskirts of towns that are currently Cartel strongholds. Individuals are then thrown out of moving vans handcuffed and blindfolded. = For first time offenders
oh sure, take away the jobs from American teens just starting out or other Americans that that can't get any other work in this time.. As if there hasn't been enough of that already you want to add to it at the worst time... You're a fucking real genius GW....
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You're not too bright are you?
Is it a liberal affliction or some other sort of unexplained phenomneon that accounts for left wingers being too retarded to comprehend sarcasm?
If I have to explain why I wasn't serious about forcing detained illegals to work at Taco Bell, you shouldn't be moderating this forum. Actually if that is the case, you shouldn't be allowed to reproduce or own a computer either.