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Straw,
Why are you supporting Brown?
(Or: Why should Jerry Brown become governor?)
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Straw,
Why are you supporting Brown?
They are supporting Brown for one reason - the LGBT issue.
Gays are like blacks - mostly single issue voters for Demos regardless of anything else whatsoever.
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Straw,
Why are you supporting Brown?
(Or: Why should Jerry Brown become governor?)
like many voters in many elections my vote for Brown would mostly be a vote against his opponent
my vote for Obama was mostly a vote against McCain and Palin
I think many of these decisions come down to a vote against rather than a vote in favor
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They are supporting Brown for one reason - the LGBT issue.
Gays are like blacks - mostly single issue voters for Demos regardless of anything else whatsoever.
I have no idea what Brown thinks about LGBT and don't care
I've never voted for anyone based on that issue
seriously 333 - why is it that you and other far right loonies think about LGBT so much
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it is funny... the sex offender, dont ask/dont tell, and death pentalty threads all come from the highly reperessed far-right voters on the board.
the left, sure, they want to hug trees and fix the world. But the creepy sex threads always come from the other side. creepy.
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I have no idea what Brown thinks about LGBT and don't care
I've never voted for anyone based on that issue
seriously 333 - why is it that you and other far right loonies think about LGBT so much
I was referring to it in terms of why certain people reflexively vote the way they do.
And please tell me what is so bad about Meg Whitman that you are voting "against" her that you would vote for Brown?
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I was referring to it in terms of why certain people reflexively vote the way they do.
And please tell me what is so bad about Meg Whitman that you are voting "against" her that you would vote for Brown?
I think she's full or more shit that Brown
She never voted in her adult life, she's using her own money (120 million) to run, she blatanly lies in her ads and I think she'd do more to help weatlhy people and less to help the state or the majority of it's citizens (poor, middle class and rich)
bottom line - I just don't like Whitman and I don't trust her
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I think she's full or more shit that Brown
She never voted in her adult life, she's using her own money (120 million) to run, she blatanly lies in her ads and I think she'd do more to help weatlhy people and less to help the state or the majority of it's citizens (poor, middle class and rich)
bottom line - I just don't like Whitman and I don't trust her
Yet you trust someone who has his hands completely in the mess of the pension disaster?
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Yet you trust someone who has his hands completely in the mess of the pension disaster?
ya got anything more than a talking point?
you already know how I feel about defined benefit pensions for govt employees
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ya got anything more than a talking point?
you already know how I feel about defined benefit pensions for govt employees
Ok, then why do you allow your personal dislike of Meg to vote for a guy who helped create one of thew main problems in your state?
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I think she's full or more shit that Brown
She never voted in her adult life, she's using her own money (120 million) to run, she blatanly lies in her ads and I think she'd do more to help weatlhy people and less to help the state or the majority of it's citizens (poor, middle class and rich)
bottom line - I just don't like Whitman and I don't trust her
You think she's more full of shit than Brown? Is that even possible?
What are some of her lies?
I haven't made up my mind yet. Although i am leaning towards Meg.
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You think she's more full of shit than Brown? Is that even possible?
What are some of her lies?
I haven't made up my mind yet. Although i am leaning towards Meg.
there are plenty of them (with the most recent being the issue with her maid - which is small potatoes to me).
Here are a few more:
http://www.factcheck.org/tag/meg-whitman/
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I think she's full or more shit that Brown
She never voted in her adult life, she's using her own money (120 million) to run, she blatanly lies in her ads and I think she'd do more to help weatlhy people and less to help the state or the majority of it's citizens (poor, middle class and rich)
bottom line - I just don't like Whitman and I don't trust her
Why is using her own money to run a bad thing?
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Why is using her own money to run a bad thing?
Because they are only pure and pristine when its coming from public employee unions, AFL/CIO, SEIU, Sierra Club, etc.
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Because they are only pure and pristine when its coming from public employee unions, AFL/CIO, SEIU, Sierra Club, etc.
Well, I'd rather have them use their own money than interest groups or taxpayer matching, etc. I would think such people are less beholden to anybody but the taxpayer in those cases.
It's interesting that he doesn't seem to indicate where they stand on the issues, just who is less full of shit. I have no idea how it's possible to determine that. Most politicians I've ever seen are pretty much equally full of shit. But, it's opinion so don't take it as an attack Straw, just trying to see your reasoning.
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Why is using her own money to run a bad thing?
I don't like it because it means that someone can use personal wealth to essentially buy a political office
Given that our current system allows unlimited spending by corporations and that any candidate must whore themself out for campaign $$$ I guess in the end their really isn't much difference however I'm always suspect when someone wants to spend $120 million of their own money for a job that probably pays only a 200k salary.
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As much as I can't stand Bloombergs positions on the mosque and nanny state bs, in the last 10 years or so, there has not been one financial scandal with him and lobbysits, contributors, etc.
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I don't like it because it means that someone can use personal wealth to essentially buy a political office
Given that our current system allows unlimited spending by corporations and that any candidate must whore themself out for campaign $$$ I guess in the end their really isn't much difference however I'm always suspect when someone wants to spend $120 million of their own money for a job that probably pays only a 200k salary.
right. So its better they are owned by public employee unions who are literally ravaging the taxpayers. ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Because they are only pure and pristine when its coming from public employee unions, AFL/CIO, SEIU, Sierra Club, etc.
any idea where all the money from wacko teabagger candidates is coming from?
mostly from a few rich guys from texas (Koch Brother et al)
the entire campaign finance system is rigged and needs to be fixed
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I live in NY and I don't really follow the races for governor, so I can't say I have paid very close attention to the CA race.
However, this "scandal" involving the housekeeper is such a festering example of dirty politics and contrived outrage by the left it's not even funny.
They hired the housekeeper through an employment agency. After a long period of time, it was discovered by the Feds that the housekeeper had a bogus SS number so they sent a letter. Later, the house keeper was fired. Nobody knows or hears a thing about it until all of a sudden in the middle of the election the housekeeper comes out with a box of tissues and hires ding bat feminazi Gloria Alldred who promptly goes on television and admits that her client committed a felony. I mean give me a fucking break. Obvious hatchet job that has nothing to do with the issues that was orchestrated to sway Hispanic voters from voting R.
I don't really know or like either candidate from the little I have seen. But from what I have seen of Brown, you would have to be a queer, illegal immigrant or welfare recipient to make that POS Governor.
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any idea where all the money from wacko teabagger candidates is coming from?
mostly from a few rich guys from texas (Koch Brother et al)
the entire campaign finance system is rigged and needs to be fixed
::) ::)
The Tea Party movement and those who support, the TENS of MILLIONS of us, do not even know who these people are, yet support the goals of this movement. People are utterly livid at the far left and big govt and the sooner you realize this has nothing to do with Koch or Meg or whoever, maybe you will get a clue. In fact, I have never even heard of these people until it was kneepadded by maddow in a pathetic attempt to discredit a movement of millions of middle class taxpayers in revolt against tthe extreme radical agenda of the left.
Keep it up with your "head in the sand" leftist nonsense, no one is buying it anymore.
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They are supporting Brown for one reason - the LGBT issue.
Gays are like blacks - mostly single issue voters for Demos regardless of anything else whatsoever.
amazing..the shit that comes out of your head is dumb
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I have no idea what Brown thinks about LGBT and don't care
I've never voted for anyone based on that issue
seriously 333 - why is it that you and other far right loonies think about LGBT so much
(http://towleroad.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c730253ef0134857913fd970c-800wi)
Maybe this is 3
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::) ::)
The Tea Party movement and those who support, the TENS of MILLIONS of us, do not even know who these people are, yet support the goals of this movement. People are utterly livid at the far left and big govt and the sooner you realize this has nothing to do with Koch or Meg or whoever, maybe you will get a clue. In fact, I have never even heard of these people until it was kneepadded by maddow in a pathetic attempt to discredit a movement of millions of middle class taxpayers in revolt against tthe extreme radical agenda of the left.
Keep it up with your "head in the sand" leftist nonsense, no one is buying it anymore.
You seem to be a single issue voter as well; you want lower taxes (which I can understand) but that is about it. I used to think you were a Libertarian but I think you are just rightwing now.
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amazing..the shit that comes out of your head is dumb
Blacks vote Demo 90% or better no matter what. Sorry Mal - they are irrelevent as a voting block and have completely margininalized themselves with their voting patterns.
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You seem to be a single issue voter as well; you want lower taxes (which I can understand) but that is about it. I used to think you were a Libertarian but I think you are just rightwing now.
My issue - is leave me the fuck alone and dismantle the govt to the most extent possible.
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My issue - is leave me the fuck alone and dismantle the govt to the most extent possible.
And yet your allies (the Right Wing) do not agree with that.
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And yet your allies (the Right Wing) do not agree with that.
On certain issues - i agree 100%.
However, to me they are far less a problem than the far left.
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Blacks vote Demo 90% or better no matter what. Sorry Mal - they are irrelevent as a voting block and have completely margininalized themselves with their voting patterns.
I don't think homosexuals vote that way. Didn't I hear somewhere the 25% of gays voted for Bush in 2004 (even with the marriage amendment stuff)? If 25% of blacks voted Republicans, the Dems would NEVER win another election again.
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I don't think homosexuals vote that way. Didn't I hear somewhere the 25% of gays voted for Bush in 2004 (even with the marriage amendment stuff)? If 25% of blacks voted Republicans, the Dems would NEVER win another election again.
Most black voters have been gerrymandered into voting districts to where their vote is meaningless anyway as the dem will always win no matter what.
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My issue - is leave me the fuck alone and dismantle the govt to the most extent possible.
you realize that this is a radical fringe perspective that is not shared by the vast majority of this country right?
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you realize that this is a radical fringe perspective that is not shared by the vast majority of this country right?
Yes, I do realize that and often times have to vote practicalities vs. desires. What desire will never come about, but in a choice between two people - its a choice of what is a bit closer to me.
Sad to say though Straw - I do believe we are heading for a complete currency collapse and my vision will be more a reality than yours.
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I think she's full or more shit that Brown
She never voted in her adult life, she's using her own money (120 million) to run, she blatanly lies in her ads and I think she'd do more to help weatlhy people and less to help the state or the majority of it's citizens (poor, middle class and rich)
bottom line - I just don't like Whitman and I don't trust her
Read: "If she had a "D" behind her name she would be great, but she doesn't, so I shall vote for the one that does.."
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Read: "If she had a "D" behind her name she would be great, but she doesn't, so I shall vote for the one that does.."
not true - I'd consider voting for any candidate if I liked them and I don't give a rats ass about party affiliation
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Ok, so then tell me.... when's that last time you voted for a non-Democrat?
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Ok, so then tell me.... when's that last time you voted for a non-Democrat?
I voted for Republican (Chuck Reed) for mayor of San Jose in the last election and will almost certainly vote for him again
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I voted for Republican (Chuck Reed) for mayor of San Jose in the last election and will almost certainly vote for him again
Chuck Reed was a Democrat. ;)
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I voted for Republican (Chuck Reed) for mayor of San Jose in the last election and will almost certainly vote for him again
You mean Democrat (Chuck Reed)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Reed
"Political party: Democratic"
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Ouch.
Straw getting destroyed again.
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LOL!
(http://mccormicky.com/tiresome/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/homer-doh.jpg)
http://san-jose-california.us/city_council/
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Poor Straw
(http://epicallyfunnypictures.com/FunnyPictures/Owned/gameshow.jpg)
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What is sad is that you have people like Straw canceling out my vote! Damn it!
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I mean, come on... At least lie about it to make your point...
Maybe straw was confused by the ballot like those people down in Florida were who voted for Pat Buchanon when they meant to vote for the "D"...
LoL :D
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I mean, come on... At least lie about it to make your point...
Maybe straw was confused by the ballot like those people down in Florida were who voted for Pat Buchanon when they meant to vote for the "D"...
LoL :D
No Straw is a true believer of the far left agenda, regardless of whether it has been proven a failure and complete disaster. to voters like Straw - the boogey man of the bible belt is far worse than bankruptcy, insolvency, illegal invasions, etc etc.
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D is the new R
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I voted for Republican (Chuck Reed) for mayor of San Jose in the last election and will almost certainly vote for him again
(http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/fail-owned-chocolate-chip-fail.jpg)
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Where did Straw go? He might not recover from this.
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Where did Straw go? He might not recover from this.
Once again Straw outdoes himself
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He's looking into the possibility that somebody altered his ballot. LoL!
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Once again Straw outdoes himself
And this time outdoing himself doesn't involve breaking his previous record for ingesting gerbils or tennis balls.
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I voted for Republican (Chuck Reed) for mayor of San Jose in the last election and will almost certainly vote for him again
(http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/fail-driving.jpg)
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(http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/fail-driving.jpg)
Why dont we just tell Straw Man that Meg Whitman is a Dem and Straw will go vote for her.
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I voted for Republican (Chuck Reed) for mayor of San Jose in the last election and will almost certainly vote for him again
(http://blogs.nitobi.com/alexei/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/shipment_of_fail.jpg)
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Just checking in to see if anyone has heard from straw recently?
No? Oh well....
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there are plenty of them (with the most recent being the issue with her maid - which is small potatoes to me).
Here are a few more:
http://www.factcheck.org/tag/meg-whitman/
Looks like they are both doing it, so what?
Why is Meg the greater of 2 evils for you?
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Chuck Reed was a Democrat. ;)
my bad but it's been a few years since I voted for him and I thought he was a Repub.
He was getting crap locally even before the election for not being a real Democrat
http://mayorwatch.blogspot.com/2006/08/is-chuck-reed-closeted-republican.html
I know I've voted for a few Green Party candidates in the last election
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Just checking in to see if anyone has heard from straw recently?
No? Oh well....
you didn't hear from me because I have stuff to do all day long and don't spend my day glued to GB
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Looks like they are both doing it, so what?
Why is Meg the greater of 2 evils for you?
I just don't like her
I listened to their debate last week and she said nothing that would make me change my mind
No doubt many people will have listened to that debate or some other info and make the opposite decision
I do think Brown will win
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What is sad is that you have people like Straw canceling out my vote! Damn it!
how can I cancel your vote when you don't even live in the state
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my bad but it's been a few years since I voted for him and I thought he was a Repub.
He was getting crap locally even before the election for not being a real Democrat
http://mayorwatch.blogspot.com/2006/08/is-chuck-reed-closeted-republican.html
I know I've voted for a few Green Party candidates in the last election
Easy to get confused.... 4 years is a long time ago! ::)
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Easy to get confused.... 4 years is a long time ago! ::)
yep, especially when he walks and talks like a Repub
also proves my point that i don't really notice party affiliation
I look at the person and what they believe and their current/prior actions
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yep, especially when he walks and talks like a Repub
also proves my point that i don't really notice party affiliation
I look at the person and what they believe and their current/prior actions
Straw - you are into real estate. check out my thread on the bank foreclosure bill that got passed in the dead of night and set for Obama's signature.
Unbelievable.
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yep, especially when he walks and talks like a Repub
also proves my point that i don't really notice party affiliation
I look at the person and what they believe and their current/prior actions
Not really. It reenforces the accusation.
Then if you add to that, that you "just don't like Meg", it reenforces it more.
But it's all good. Lots of people vote party over canadate.
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Not really. It reenforces the accusation.
Then if you add to that, that you "just don't like Meg", it reenforces it more.
But it's all good. Lots of people vote party over canadate.
if I didn't know Reed was a Dem (or had forgotten) then it shows that I don't pay attention to party i.e. I voted for what I thought was a Republican
btw - I also voted for Arnold for Governor and I recall voting for a few Green Party candidates too.
Either way - it makes no difference to me. Every race comes down to a choice btw 2 major party candidates and occassionally a few others.
My choice has nothing to do with party and has to do with what I think is the best choice among the people running
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Don't ya love how radical liberals always think they are moderates?
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Don't ya love how radical liberals always think they are moderates?
are you calling me or Chuck Reed a radical liberal or are you referring to someone else?