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Title: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: Arnold jr on October 07, 2010, 12:38:38 AM
O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow

On last night’s “O’Reilly Factor,” host Bill O’Reilly lambasted ABC TV host Christiane Amanpour regarding her handling of recent comments by a British Muslim cleric that Islam will “conquer” America.

“The liberal media … is buying into the genteel Islam,” he told guest Charles Krauthammer.* “The media in America is close to [becoming] the media in Europe, which as you know is a very significant factor in this kind of situation.”

On Sunday, Muslim cleric Anjem Choudary claimed that Sharia law will one day rule the East and West and “the flag of Islam will fly over the White House.” (See video below.)

“That is a provocative statement that Miss Amanpour certainly didn’t challenge the way she should have,” O’Reilly said. “That’s what gets me about ABC news. … They let this stuff go and I don’t think they should”:

Anjem Choudary has long been known for his shocking statements about Islam. This weekend, the British Muslim cleric lived up to his reputation. Appearing on an ABC TV program with Christiane Amanpour regarding Islam, Choudary claimed that the East and West will one day be governed by Sharia law and predicted that “the flag of Islam will fly over the White House.“ He then threw out the word ”conquer”:

Last month, Choudary called for a “burn the stars and stripes”  day in response to a Florida pastor’s plan to burn the Koran on September 11. His organization, Islam4UK, has been banned by the British government. In the past, he has explained that Islam is not a religion of peace:



Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2010, 01:10:58 AM
lol, there are probably more wiccans in America than muslims.  The total muslim population of Canada, the US and all of South America combined in 08 was under 10 million.  I don't think they're taking over shit and we're not going to see their bs laws ruling over America.

http://www.islamicpopulation.com/America/america_islam.html
Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: Fury on October 07, 2010, 04:25:59 AM
O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow

On last night’s “O’Reilly Factor,” host Bill O’Reilly lambasted ABC TV host Christiane Amanpour regarding her handling of recent comments by a British Muslim cleric that Islam will “conquer” America.

“The liberal media … is buying into the genteel Islam,” he told guest Charles Krauthammer.* “The media in America is close to [becoming] the media in Europe, which as you know is a very significant factor in this kind of situation.”

On Sunday, Muslim cleric Anjem Choudary claimed that Sharia law will one day rule the East and West and “the flag of Islam will fly over the White House.” (See video below.)

“That is a provocative statement that Miss Amanpour certainly didn’t challenge the way she should have,” O’Reilly said. “That’s what gets me about ABC news. … They let this stuff go and I don’t think they should”:

Anjem Choudary has long been known for his shocking statements about Islam. This weekend, the British Muslim cleric lived up to his reputation. Appearing on an ABC TV program with Christiane Amanpour regarding Islam, Choudary claimed that the East and West will one day be governed by Sharia law and predicted that “the flag of Islam will fly over the White House.“ He then threw out the word ”conquer”:

Last month, Choudary called for a “burn the stars and stripes”  day in response to a Florida pastor’s plan to burn the Koran on September 11. His organization, Islam4UK, has been banned by the British government. In the past, he has explained that Islam is not a religion of peace:





Christiane Amanpour loves pandering to Muslim fundamentalists. She's an enabler and Muslim worshiper, just like the rest of the MSM. Reza Aslan, who was also on that show, is nothing more than an Iranian puppet and most likely a Quds agent.

It was nice of them to edit out almost all that Robert Spencer, who was far and away the most educated and knowledgeable individual on that show, had to say. Not surprising given that most Islamic supremacists avoid debating him like the plague.

lol, there are probably more wiccans in America than muslims.  The total muslim population of Canada, the US and all of South America combined in 08 was under 10 million.  I don't think they're taking over shit and we're not going to see their bs laws ruling over America.

http://www.islamicpopulation.com/America/america_islam.html

Oh, what a naive and uninformed individual you are.

Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2010, 04:36:26 AM
Oh, what a naive and uninformed individual you are.
epic.... do you have that reply on permanent copy/paste standby?  I'm guessing you have a button on the keyboard dedicated to it.  It seems to be your typical response.  Next you'll jet into my low IQ lol...

So lets go through what I said.  You think muslims are going to take over America?  Did I lie about the population of Muslims in both North America and South America combined?  Tell me where in what I said I was uninformed?  and yes I know there are less than stated wiccans, it was a joke, key words, lol and probably ;).
Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: Fury on October 07, 2010, 04:41:13 AM
epic.... do you have that reply on permanent copy/paste standby?  I'm guessing you have a button on the keyboard dedicated to it.  It seems to be your typical response.  Next you'll jet into my low IQ lol...

Actually, I'll jet into the report (which I made a thread about) released by a non-partisan group a few weeks ago that highlights the fact that there are multiple Muslim "advocacy" groups in this country conducting stealth jihad and working to implement Sharia here. Or, we can use the recently leaked British intelligence reporting that highlights the fact that multiple "charities" and "advocacy groups" in Britain are in-fact jihad workshops. Or maybe, back as far as 1998 and even by Muslim estimates, that 80% of the mosques in this country have been taken over by Wahhabi ideology.

You go ahead and throw your population statistics around, though.
Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2010, 04:42:55 AM
ok johnny on the spot, I wasn't finished.

epic.... do you have that reply on permanent copy/paste standby?  I'm guessing you have a button on the keyboard dedicated to it.  It seems to be your typical response.  Next you'll jet into my low IQ lol...

So lets go through what I said.  You think muslims are going to take over America?  Did I lie about the population of Muslims in both North America and South America combined?  Tell me where in what I said I was uninformed?  and yes I know there are less than stated wiccans, it was a joke, key words, lol and probably ;).
Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2010, 04:44:14 AM
Actually, I'll jet into the report (which I made a thread about) released by a non-partisan group a few weeks ago that highlights the fact that there are multiple Muslim "advocacy" groups in this country conducting stealth jihad and working to implement Sharia here. Or, we can use the recently leaked British intelligence reporting that highlights the fact that multiple "charities" and "advocacy groups" in Britain are in-fact jihad workshops. Or maybe, back as far as 1998 and even by Muslim estimates, that 80% of the mosques in this country have been taken over by Wahhabi ideology.

You go ahead and throw your population statistics around, though.
how does that refute anything I just said lol... it doesn't.
Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: Fury on October 07, 2010, 04:45:56 AM
Whether they will take over or not, I don't know. But they are definitely being enabled by the MSM and the left and there are definitely Muslims here working to implement Sharia Law and destroy the values this country stands for. And they are getting stronger with more and more Saudi/Iranian oil money being thrown at them. And there are people are far more intelligent and informed than I am that are saying the same thing.

how does that refute anything I just said lol... it doesn't.

Well, let's look at your post and ask the same thing. How does a population statistic prove anything?
Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2010, 04:47:30 AM
I'm much more worried about politicians fucking over America than I am stupid shit muslims.  Tell me I'm wrong about that asshole....
Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: Fury on October 07, 2010, 04:49:44 AM
I'm much more worried about politicians fucking over America than I am stupid shit muslims.  Tell me I'm wrong about that asshole....

They're one in the same at this point. I would rank CAIR as one of the five most powerful lobbyists right now and they're in bed with a number of leftist politicians. They've also got former lobbyists working for a variety of MSM organizations, including the NY Times.
Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2010, 04:55:10 AM
Whether they will take over or not, I don't know. But they are definitely being enabled by the MSM and the left and there are definitely Muslims here working to implement Sharia Law and destroy the values this country stands for. And they are getting stronger with more and more Saudi/Iranian oil money being thrown at them. And there are people are far more intelligent and informed than I am that are saying the same thing.

Well, let's look at your post and ask the same thing. How does a population statistic prove anything?
oh... lol, you think we're going to see sharia law in America?  LOL...  You say you don't know so you must think it's possible...  Tell us how such a small portion of America will end up fucking over our system and we'll end up being ruled by them lol... hey retard, you said you didn't know so that's a good question.  Why don't you know?  I want to know why you don't know.  You must have some other scenario to say I don't know.  So lets here it.

Aslo interesting that interest in Islam here in America increased after 9/11.  Why the fuck did that happen?  Some people saw that bs coming from the start. 

And there is no implementation of Sharia in America, not that you have to be subject to unless you want to.
Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2010, 04:56:17 AM
They're one in the same at this point. I would rank CAIR as one of the five most powerful lobbyists right now and they're in bed with a number of leftist politicians. They've also got former lobbyists working for a variety of MSM organizations, including the NY Times.
American politicans and Islam are one in the same... OK, I got that quoted and saved... lololol...
Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: Fury on October 07, 2010, 05:00:14 AM
oh... lol, you think we're going to see sharia law in America?  LOL...  You say you don't know so you must think it's possible...  Tell us how such a small portion of America will end up fucking over our system and we'll end up being ruled by them lol... hey retard, you said you didn't know so that's a good question.  Why don't you know?  I want to know why you don't know.  You must have some other scenario to say I don't know.  So lets here it.

Aslo interesting that interest in Islam here in America increased after 9/11.  Why the fuck did that happen?  Some people saw that bs coming from the start.  

And there is no implementation of Sharia in America, not that you have to be subject to unless you want to.

Haha, you're so stupid that it astounds me. This is why arguing with someone who knows fuck all about the topic is pointless.

We're going to see Sharia Law in America? It's already here to some extent, dipshit. South Park's episode about Mohammed getting censored. The fiasco that was the Koran burning. Police in Michigan tracking down a man who burned a Koran. Molly Norris's life being completely destroyed while the government and MSM ignores it. She apologized profusely for her joke about Everybody Draw Mohammed day being taken seriously and instead of defending and protecting her, the government has thrown her to the wolves. That woman's life is ruined and yet there was not a word of condemnation from our President. Note how quick he was to condemn the Koran burning. It's fast becoming off-limits to even criticize Islam.

Look at England for a good example of where this country appears to be headed.  

And why did Islam increase in America? Maybe the billions of dollars that the Saudis have dumped into the spread of Wahhabi Islam since the 70s have something to do with it?  ::)

I don't understand why you insist on posting in threads on this topic. You embarrass yourself every time. You prove time and time again that you live in fantasy land.
Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2010, 05:04:43 AM
OK, I had to stop when you were using South Park to make your point ::)

Just stop, I know your act.  Just tell me what I said that was so wrong in my original post that you attacked.  What did I say in that post that was misinformed?
Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: Fury on October 07, 2010, 05:11:10 AM
OK, I had to stop when you were using South Park to make your point ::)

Just stop, I know your act.  Just tell me what I said that was so wrong in my original post that you attacked.  What did I say in that post that was misinformed?

Here we go. You can't actually debate with me so you start pissing, moaning and ignoring posts. Thanks for playing. This conversation with you just reached that point where any further posts directed at you will be a waste of time.

I need to go back to ignoring your posts in any threads regarding Islam as it's just painful to even try to carry on a conversation with someone like you. You're so misinformed and you spout so much fallacious junk that I can't help but wonder if you truly are a Quds agent or something of the like.

And for what it's worth, I'll believe the Center for Security Policy's reports on stealth jihad before I believe anything you say 100 times out of 100.  :)
Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2010, 05:26:00 AM
Here we go. You can't actually debate with me so you start pissing, moaning and ignoring posts. Thanks for playing.

I need to go back to ignoring your posts in any threads regarding Islam as it's just painful to even try to carry on a conversation with someone like you. You're so misinformed and you spout so much fallacious junk that I can't help but wonder if you truly are a Quds agent or something of the like.
Bullshit, you attacked me first.  The least I deserve is a reason why.  I would like to know what I said in my original post that set you off.  You already promised that you would not reply to me anymore and that was a happy moment for me, but you broke that and jumped all over my ass.  Well I don't think it's to much to ask what I said that is so wrong?  Your reply to me was that I was uninformed nothing more. 

Now, if you would like to go back to not replying to me, OMFG, Please do.  I usually ignore you and when you said you were going to ignore me, I thought, oh hell yea, perfect....

Ironic that I have no love for Islam and infact think it's the worst religion to come out of that region, yet you battle me on it lol....

One last thing, have you served your country?  I have...  stop calling me a Quds agent you little fuck.  I was born in Colorado by two parents who were raised in Wyoming, one side of the family homesteading going back in Wyoming near the turn of the last century.  My family tree goes back here before America was born.  I have no love for Islam and I'll say fuck muhammad right now.  If you want I'll even draw a fucking picture of the shithead and post it online ::)  So cut the crap you homo troll.
Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 07, 2010, 05:29:01 AM
Hugo, but the problem is that the "small" number of muslim's in America can do a lot of damage especially if the media continues to coddle them.  Think of Nazi germany, the Nazi party was a very small number by comparison to the population of Germany.  Muslims keep playing the "woe is me, I'm passive, just another religion" bullshit to keep either sympathy or apathy alive. 
Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2010, 05:51:38 AM
Hugo, but the problem is that the "small" number of muslim's in America can do a lot of damage especially if the media continues to coddle them.  Think of Nazi germany, the Nazi party was a very small number by comparison to the population of Germany.  Muslims keep playing the "woe is me, I'm passive, just another religion" bullshit to keep either sympathy or apathy alive. 
that's actually a good point and true.  It doesn't take a large population to cause big problems and history does show that.  You're very right on that and I do believe that still holds true for today. But I don't think we're remotely close to that being the issue in regards to Islam taking over America as was the subject of the jackass speaking in the video.

One more thing, and this is not directed at you Showstoppa, I find it interesting that nobody mentioned that it was a Muslim opposed to what this guy said.  That is true, the Muslims opposed to the extremists do not ever get any credit, I would think you would want to praise them?  no?  I do think that Islam needs to go through a reformation and I do think they are in the beginning slow process of that as this woman shows.  Now I do also think they obviously have a long way to go yet, Christianity didn't change overnight either.
Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 07, 2010, 06:01:15 AM
that's actually a good point and true.  It doesn't take a large population to cause big problems and history does show that.  You're very right on that and I do believe that still holds true for today. But I don't think we're remotely close to that being the issue in regards to Islam taking over America as was the subject of the jackass speaking in the video.

One more thing, and this is not directed at you Showstoppa, I find it interesting that nobody mentioned that it was a Muslim opposed to what this guy said.  That is true, the Muslims opposed to the extremists do not ever get any credit, I would think you would want to praise them?  no?  I do think that Islam needs to go through a reformation and I do think they are in the beginning slow process of that as this woman shows.  Now I do also think they obviously have a long way to go yet, Christianity didn't change overnight either.

Good points and to be honest, it is going to take me awhile to really buy into the muslims who are opposed to the extremists being "legit."  I'm just being honest in that I really don't trust them at this stage.  Considering it's "ok" to lie to a non-muslim, which is what I have read, within the religion its difficult for me to accept them.  And regardless of party affiliation, I want to see all our leaders be very clear as to what is acceptable and what is not.  No Pandering.
Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: George Whorewell on October 07, 2010, 06:06:58 AM
Hugo you're such a pussy. It's comical to watch you bend over backwards to justify evil with moral equivalency arguments and half baked statistics that prove nothing.

Why don't you just admit that you hate America and hate Christianity?

It would spare the rest of us from expending the time and energy to read your posts.
Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2010, 06:43:04 AM
Good points and to be honest, it is going to take me awhile to really buy into the muslims who are opposed to the extremists being "legit."  I'm just being honest in that I really don't trust them at this stage.  Considering it's "ok" to lie to a non-muslim, which is what I have read, within the religion its difficult for me to accept them.  And regardless of party affiliation, I want to see all our leaders be very clear as to what is acceptable and what is not.  No Pandering.
Jews have the same policy about it being ok to lie to others, are you ok with that?

That's funny about you wanting to see our leaders be clear to what is acceptable and what is not.  Because I have watched them for decades dance around that on every topic imaginable.  I was not kidding when I said I see more of a threat in our own politicians than I do in Islam.  That's because it's and absolute fact.  These fuckers are a goddamned joke beyond repair.  They pose 2000 times more of a threat than a .02 of 7% of the population screaming absurdities.
Title: Re: O‘Reilly Slams ABC About Cleric’s ‘Flag of Islam’ Over the White House Vow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2010, 06:44:01 AM
Hugo you're such a pussy.
That's all I read, now shut up you bitch. ;)