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i think we would place somewhere similar to Rockel...top 6 for sure.
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He should win....
Different level of class
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He should have won, can't be entirely sure given the strange judging criteria though...Just like he should have won against the mess that was Dorian.
Great poser.
Schmoe edited vid.
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Very good posing + COMPLETE physique, not GH gut. He should beat Gutler!
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Immediate disqualification!
waist too small and tight
no looseness in lower back
no "bloated" gut
too much proportion & far too symmetrical
has big arms AND well developed calves
too much conditioning, tight skin & vascularity
upper body and lower body not only proportionate, but balanced
how much we've progressed, cant believe they let guys like this onstage at the O in the 80's & 90's... ::)
(edit: posing is far too fluid)
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Haha. Let's face it dude, Saudi Arabia sucks (especially for women). :P
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The fact that the abortion that is cutler has 4 O's and Shawn has zero is beyond a joke.
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I can't understand it's really disappointing to see how far bodybuilding has regressed
and it just keeps getting worse. Nearly all the top 10 at the mr o this year has stomach distension
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you nailed it!
Immediate disqualification!
waist too small and tight
no looseness in lower back
no "bloated" gut
too much proportion & far too symmetrical
has big arms AND well developed calves
too much conditioning, tight skin & vascularity
upper body and lower body not only proportionate, but balanced
how much we've progressed, cant believe they let guys like this onstage at the O in the 80's & 90's... ::)
(edit: posing is far too fluid)
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Now that's what a Mr. O should look like!
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Immediate disqualification!
waist too small and tight
no looseness in lower back
no "bloated" gut
too much proportion & far too symmetrical
has big arms AND well developed calves
too much conditioning, tight skin & vascularity
upper body and lower body not only proportionate, but balanced
how much we've progressed, cant believe they let guys like this onstage at the O in the 80's & 90's... ::)
(edit: posing is far too fluid)
Lol...
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Sell 1990's pics for $20.
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I can't understand it's really disappointing to see how far bodybuilding has regressed
and it just keeps getting worse. Nearly all the top 10 at the mr o this year has stomach distension
Rockel had some bad distention Saturday night at the Olympia. And he is suppose to be the new model of balance and symmetry. Shawn Ray would destroy him on stage. The human body is the same as it's always been, today's guys can't come in 30 lbs heavier than the guys in the '90s and expect it to be in all the right places, half of it gets carried in the gut.
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Rockel had some bad distention Saturday night at the Olympia. And he is suppose to be the new model of balance and symmetry. Shawn Ray would destroy him on stage. The human body is the same as it's always been, today's guys can't come in 30 lbs heavier than the guys in the '90s and expect it to be in all the right places, half of it gets carried in the gut.
Correct
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In the 90's, the perfect balance was struck between, size, density, and aesthetics. Can any pro of today do a legitamite vacuum pose?
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Immediate disqualification!
waist too small and tight
no looseness in lower back
no "bloated" gut
too much proportion & far too symmetrical
has big arms AND well developed calves
too much conditioning, tight skin & vascularity
upper body and lower body not only proportionate, but balanced
how much we've progressed, cant believe they let guys like this onstage at the O in the 80's & 90's... ::)
(edit: posing is far too fluid)
Haha, I'm impressed. I didn't know even know they had a judging criteria!
You know, instead of finding the 'big-man-on-campus' they should be findng the 'best-man-on-campus'.
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Shawn about the 94 olympia:
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The worst moment was in 1994, when I lost the Mr. Olympia contest. That was even harder to deal with than failing the drug test at the Arnold Classic in 1990 because I won that show. I felt like a winner there, everybody who saw it felt that. At the Mr. Olympia contest, in 1992 I was 4th, in 1993 I was 3rd. In 1994, to wind up second in a contest that I felt I had won, when Dorian had torn his bicep, came in with a bloated stomach, his color was off, and it was clear he was visibly not at his best from 1993. A lot of people came to my room, and told me I looked the best, that I was going to win. The photographers were setting up photo shoot for me. Joe Weider gave me his blessing - he thought that I nailed it. Everybody who knew me knew that I had nailed this show. I used the routine that I turned pro with in 1987, and I nailed that too. I felt that this was going to be the night.
And when they announced Dorian in first, I felt that at that point and time, there was nothing that I could have changed, nothing I would have done differently, and nothing more that I could do. This was the best that I had with my physique, and I was dazed and confused because I didn't know what else I could do with my body? I didn't want to change anything - I was happy. And when I placed second, it was the worst thing. I would have been happier if I had placed 6th or 7th. One person stopped me from my destiny. One person away from realizing a dream since I had in high school. I was 10 years removed from high school, it was two weeks after my 10 years reunion, and when that happened, it took a lot out of me. I retired that night.
Shawn right after the 1994 Mr Olympia
Flex magazine January 1995 Shawn Ray
Dorian was a bigger version of what he's been. I'm not a fan in the sense that his physique is something I aspire to attain. Dorian is in his own class and in his own little world. For that reason, there's nobody they can compare like-to-like with Dorian. They can only bring forward a different package.
( 1994 Mr Olympia ) Tonight I feel that I got what I deserved. With a beaming smile , Shawn concluded: " This is the first time in three years I haven't ' retired ' the night of the show and got drunk. "
Truth is he was lucky to beat Kevin for second place and only did so by a single point.
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Shawn right after the 1994 Mr Olympia
Flex magazine January 1995 Shawn Ray
Dorian was a bigger version of what he's been. I'm not a fan in the sense that his physique is something I aspire to attain. Dorian is in his own class and in his own little world. For that reason, there's nobody they can compare like-to-like with Dorian. They can only bring forward a different package.
( 1994 Mr Olympia ) Tonight I feel that I got what I deserved. With a beaming smile , Shawn concluded: " This is the first time in three years I haven't ' retired ' the night of the show and got drunk. "
ray owned
Truth is he was lucky to beat Kevin for second place and only did so by a single point.
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its called a weider contract. Back then he had one, he couldnt talk shit.
yeah whatever. he couldnt touch yates with a step ladder
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Shawn about the 94 olympia:
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The worst moment was in 1994, when I lost the Mr. Olympia contest. That was even harder to deal with than failing the drug test at the Arnold Classic in 1990 because I won that show. I felt like a winner there, everybody who saw it felt that. At the Mr. Olympia contest, in 1992 I was 4th, in 1993 I was 3rd. In 1994, to wind up second in a contest that I felt I had won, when Dorian had torn his bicep, came in with a bloated stomach, his color was off, and it was clear he was visibly not at his best from 1993. A lot of people came to my room, and told me I looked the best, that I was going to win. The photographers were setting up photo shoot for me. Joe Weider gave me his blessing - he thought that I nailed it. Everybody who knew me knew that I had nailed this show. I used the routine that I turned pro with in 1987, and I nailed that too. I felt that this was going to be the night.
And when they announced Dorian in first, I felt that at that point and time, there was nothing that I could have changed, nothing I would have done differently, and nothing more that I could do. This was the best that I had with my physique, and I was dazed and confused because I didn't know what else I could do with my body? I didn't want to change anything - I was happy. And when I placed second, it was the worst thing. I would have been happier if I had placed 6th or 7th. One person stopped me from my destiny. One person away from realizing a dream since I had in high school. I was 10 years removed from high school, it was two weeks after my 10 years reunion, and when that happened, it took a lot out of me. I retired that night.
Here is a good "What If?", what if Flex Wheeler hadn't broken his neck in 1994, where would Shawn or he have placed in the 1994 Mr. O?
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its called a weider contract. Back then he had one, he couldnt talk shit.
Obviously you never picked up a magazine from back then because that's all Shawn did was talk shit , in fact he said after Dorian tore his bicep that he was done and he had a couple of years left in him for guest posing , Shawn mentioned at the athletes meeting that year that he hoped his physique was being judged and not his comments
and even entertaining he didn't say anything out of ' fear ' that doesn't change anything , the fact is he was lucky to beat Kevin Levrone in 94 and only did so by 1 point , he was in fact trailing Kevin after the prejudging so either way you're sucked
Shawn wasn't good enough to beat Dorian , Haney or Ronnie , he claimed Ronnie didn't deserve the Olympia in 98 , Shawn says a lot of things a lot which fly in the face of reality , Shawn couldn't accept the fact he simply wasn't good enough.
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Here is a good "What If?", what if Flex Wheeler hadn't broken his neck in 1994, where would Shawn or he have placed in the 1994 Mr. O?
If Flex was on like 93 he probably would have beaten Dorian , nevermind Shawn
Shawn isn't in Flex's league or Dorians.
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Shawn right after the 1994 Mr Olympia
Flex magazine January 1995 Shawn Ray
Dorian was a bigger version of what he's been. I'm not a fan in the sense that his physique is something I aspire to attain. Dorian is in his own class and in his own little world. For that reason, there's nobody they can compare like-to-like with Dorian. They can only bring forward a different package.
( 1994 Mr Olympia ) Tonight I feel that I got what I deserved. With a beaming smile , Shawn concluded: " This is the first time in three years I haven't ' retired ' the night of the show and got drunk. "
Truth is he was lucky to beat Kevin for second place and only did so by a single point.
Truth is that Dorian was an abomination that derailed the whole sport to the extent that it still hasn't recovered.
Kevin and Shawn should have both finished above him.
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The guy loves asian tranny ass.
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I know of 1 and a 1/2 women that would not vote for him! his mom and "Sasha"
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Obviously you never picked up a magazine from back then because that's all Shawn did was talk shit , in fact he said after Dorian tore his bicep that he was done and he had a couple of years left in him for guest posing , Shawn mentioned at the athletes meeting that year that he hoped his physique was being judged and not his comments
and even entertaining he didn't say anything out of ' fear ' that doesn't change anything , the fact is he was lucky to beat Kevin Levrone in 94 and only did so by 1 point , he was in fact trailing Kevin after the prejudging so either way you're sucked
Shawn wasn't good enough to beat Dorian , Haney or Ronnie , he claimed Ronnie didn't deserve the Olympia in 98 , Shawn says a lot of things a lot which fly in the face of reality , Shawn couldn't accept the fact he simply wasn't good enough.
He was good enough to win the 94 O according to Joe Weider and a lot of other people. ;)
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Shawn right after the 1994 Mr Olympia
Flex magazine January 1995 Shawn Ray
Dorian was a bigger version of what he's been. I'm not a fan in the sense that his physique is something I aspire to attain. Dorian is in his own class and in his own little world. For that reason, there's nobody they can compare like-to-like with Dorian. They can only bring forward a different package.
( 1994 Mr Olympia ) Tonight I feel that I got what I deserved. With a beaming smile , Shawn concluded: " This is the first time in three years I haven't ' retired ' the night of the show and got drunk. "
Truth is he was lucky to beat Kevin for second place and only did so by a single point.
Lucky to beat Kevin?
It had nothing to do with luck, he was just the better bb that night.
It isn't luck considering he beat Kevin the year before as well and two years later.
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i think there is a point where GH allows you to take your genetics to the limit and makes you look god-like. thats what we saw with guys like ray, wheeler, etc in the 90's. i think once you hit that apex, the body cannot hold that amount of muscle for whatever reason and you lose sharpness and detail, i dont necessarily think it is all insulin's fault. i think thats we are seeing these days. maybe over saturation due to availability causing the body to look like it has less quality muscle to it? i dunno. but for some reason the guys in the 90's had the size and the look of physiques that were crisp and held good muscle, even at the nats level when they got their pro cards.
maybe disgusted would have a better idea as to why.
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i think there is a point where GH allows you to take your genetics to the limit and makes you look god-like. thats what we saw with guys like ray, wheeler, etc in the 90's. i think once you hit that apex, the body cannot hold that amount of muscle for whatever reason and you lose sharpness and detail, i dont necessarily think it is all insulin's fault. i think thats we are seeing these days. maybe over saturation due to availability causing the body to look like it has less quality muscle to it? i dunno. but for some reason the guys in the 90's had the size and the look of physiques that were crisp and held good muscle, even at the nats level when they got their pro cards.
maybe disgusted would have a better idea as to why.
MB phrased it best in an earlier post:
The human body is the same as it's always been, today's guys can't come in 30 lbs heavier than the guys in the '90s and expect it to be in all the right places, half of it gets carried in the gut.
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Lucky to beat Kevin?
It had nothing to do with luck, he was just the better bb that night.
It isn't luck considering he beat Kevin the year before as well and two years later.
When you trail after the prejudging, you're lucky to place ahead of that person. It's not the norm.
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He was good enough to win the 94 O according to Joe Weider and a lot of other people. ;)
not according to Shawn at the contest ;) Joe Weider doesn't judge contests and neither do a lot of other people
Judges judge contests and they are only right when YOU agree they are , but when the winner's physique isn't pretty enough for you he should lose ::)
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Pretty damn impressive
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Lucky to beat Kevin?
It had nothing to do with luck, he was just the better bb that night.
It isn't luck considering he beat Kevin the year before as well and two years later.
It was luck , 1994 was a close contest FOR SECOND PLACE neither were in Dorian's league
Kevin was beating Shawn after the prejudging and if you know anything about contests that's the meat & potatoes rarely are placings improved upon in the evening show , Shawn only ' beat ' Kevin by a single point so yes he was lucky Kevin was a tad off in prejudging because if Kevin was spot-on like 95 he would have been left for dead , like he was in 92 and the only reason Shawn beat him in 93 was of Kevin's pec-tear . Shawn isn't in Kevin's league and he sure as fuck wasn't good enough to beat Dorian even at one of his worse showings
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HULKSTER SOS!!!
Call for moron reinforcements , his dumb ass has been corrected many times on this subject and I'll do it again ;D
again 94 was a very close contest , for second place.
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When you trail after the prejudging, you're lucky to place ahead of that person. It's not the norm.
There you go. someone who gets it.
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Is there a remote possibility that Bam-Bam is pumpster?
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not according to Shawn at the contest ;) Joe Weider doesn't judge contests and neither do a lot of other people
Judges judge contests and they are only right when YOU agree they are , but when the winner's physique isn't pretty enough for you he should lose ::)
I know that man, I was just pointing out different opinions on the subject.
I've already admitted Dorian deserved his win, but I think Shawn had the better physique.
Of course I not always agree with a contest result, its called having an opinion of my own.
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Is there a remote possibility that Bam-Bam is pumpster?
I think he is a team nasser gimmick, the way he sticks up for fatpanda.
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its called a weider contract. Back then he had one, he couldnt talk shit.
Bullshit, he talked shit all the time.
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It was luck , 1994 was a close contest FOR SECOND PLACE neither were in Dorian's league
Kevin was beating Shawn after the prejudging and if you know anything about contests that's the meat & potatoes rarely are placings improved upon in the evening show , Shawn only ' beat ' Kevin by a single point so yes he was lucky Kevin was a tad off in prejudging because if Kevin was spot-on like 95 he would have been left for dead , like he was in 92 and the only reason Shawn beat him in 93 was of Kevin's pec-tear . Shawn isn't in Kevin's league and he sure as fuck wasn't good enough to beat Dorian even at one of his worse showings
So close placing = luck?
Shawn only beat Kevin in 93 due to Kevin's pec tear and in 94 due to Kevin being slighty off. What about 96? What is the excuse for this one?
I agree that Kevin at his best (like in 95) beats Shawn's best without a doubt, but 94 was 94 and Shawn beat him.......I guess we can call it luck.
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Shawn only ' beat ' Kevin by a single point so yes he was lucky Kevin was a tad off in prejudging because if Kevin was spot-on like 95 he would have been left for dead , like he was in 92
So according to this logic of Shawn being lucky Kevin was off, we can say that:
Dorian was lucky to win the 92 Olympia since Lee Haney retired right?
Or Dorian was lucky Flex had that accident in 94, if not he wouldn't have won the Olympia right?
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So close placing = luck?
Shawn only beat Kevin in 93 due to Kevin's pec tear and in 94 due to Kevin being slighty off. What about 96? What is the excuse for this one?
I agree that Kevin at his best (like in 95) beats Shawn's best without a doubt, but 94 was 94 and Shawn beat him.......I guess we can call it luck.
Behind after the prejudging and winning by a single point = luck
Kevin always tip between big/soft hard/small he always had a hard time finding the balance and when he did Shawn wasn't in his league and when he didn't he could be beaten , the irony is Kevin was slightly off even in the prejudging and still beat Shawn in it and this is Shawn at his best !
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So according to this logic of Shawn being lucky Kevin was off, we can say that:
Dorian was lucky to win the 92 Olympia since Lee Haney retired right?
Or Dorian was lucky Flex had that accident in 94, if not he wouldn't have won the Olympia right?
Lucky? NO however I do thing if Haney showed up the way he did in 92 as he did in 91 and Dorian appeared the same Haney would have taken him again , 1993 Dorian would beat any version of Haney
Dorian was lucky Flex had the accident because he is the only legitimate guy who could beat him when he was off , but Dorian not at his best is still eons better than Shawn
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Is there a remote possibility that Bam-Bam is pumpster?
It's obviously a gimmick who wants to act like they're above this topic , who cares either way he's wrong ;D
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Gimmicks are pricks who talks tough and never post a single pic. I am real as it gets.
hehehe time will tell , it always does ;)