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Title: Going to the moon.
Post by: Lundgren on October 16, 2010, 05:15:37 AM
So I was just looking up a bunch a shit about space. Anyhow there expecting to have a trip to the moon cost about 1 mil in 30 years. So would you go if you couldn't afford a flight back?
P.S.  they'd have an abundance of genetically engineered green skinned super hoes one you get there.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: spinnis on October 16, 2010, 05:21:38 AM
in 30 years there will be easier way to get to the moon.

nanotube elivator for example
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Lundgren on October 16, 2010, 05:23:58 AM
in 30 years there will be easier way to get to the moon.

nanotube elivator for example
Meh possible, I donno but still would you pay a million for to buy a house then then. I mean we all got this idea that going to space will be cheap. It probally won't get much under a million so for most people it'll be a one way trip. It's something peopel always forget. When are ancestors went to the america's they didn't visit, then went to stay and never looked back.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Fatpanda on October 16, 2010, 05:31:45 AM
in 30 years there will be easier way to get to the moon.

nanotube elivator for example

teleporters  8)
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: djbigballs on October 16, 2010, 05:34:34 AM
how abundant and more importantly how desperate will these green women be
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: devilsmile on October 16, 2010, 05:35:08 AM
Meh possible, I donno but still would you pay a million for to buy a house then then. I mean we all got this idea that going to space will be cheap. It probally won't get much under a million so for most people it'll be a one way trip. It's something peopel always forget. When are ancestors went to the america's they didn't visit, then went to stay and never looked back.

oh PLEASE tell us who are these "ancestors" of AMERica landscape as you like to say  ::)

LOL just kiding, don't mean to start shit  :P
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: lovemonkey on October 16, 2010, 05:35:51 AM
in 30 years there will be easier way to get to the moon.

nanotube elivator for example

If you're interested by that sorta stuff I can definitely recommend "Physics of the Impossible" by Michio Kaku. Some really cool stuff in there.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Lundgren on October 16, 2010, 05:43:27 AM
If you're interested by that sorta stuff I can definitely recommend "Physics of the Impossible" by Michio Kaku. Some really cool stuff in there.
Meh he's a bit of a wanker, alot of this stuff might happen but isn't likely.

Elon musk at space x, is getting the cost of lanching shit into space at 3000 dollars per kilo and down as low as just 1000($440 per pound) with 15 years. The costs of getting to space are getting 10 times to a 100 times cheaper in a few decades, the wonders of private enterprise.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: lovemonkey on October 16, 2010, 05:46:16 AM
Meh he's a bit of a wanker, alot of this stuff might happen but isn't likely.

Elon musk at space x, is getting the cost of lanching shit into space at 3000 dollars per kilo and down as low as just 1000($440 per pound) with 15 years. The costs of getting to space are getting 10 times to a 100 times cheaper in a few decades, the wonders of private enterprise.


Did you read the book at all? He's not saying that all of that stuff necessarily will happen, but merely that there's really nothing in the laws of physics preventing it.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Lundgren on October 16, 2010, 05:56:54 AM
Did you read the book at all? He's not saying that all of that stuff necessarily will happen, but merely that there's really nothing in the laws of physics preventing it.
Honestly know I've seen alot of him in videos over the years though. I aware he don't say it will. But he never talks about the econmics which usually dwarfs the physics.

Nasa was sending the shuttle to space for a 500 mil a launch. Within five years a space station could be put into space for the same price. A 100 billion ISS we got now is a joke. Private corps could make that today for 10 billion. Were undergoing an economic revolution in space, and all every talks about are transporters, and laser beems. :(
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on October 16, 2010, 06:09:12 AM
i have zero desire to leave Earth. i dont care if it cost $5. fuck space.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: spinnis on October 16, 2010, 06:30:53 AM
If you're interested by that sorta stuff I can definitely recommend "Physics of the Impossible" by Michio Kaku. Some really cool stuff in there.

I need to get myself a pair of reading glasses and some good ass books
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Rami on October 16, 2010, 07:13:02 AM
So I was just looking up a bunch a shit about space. Anyhow there expecting to have a trip to the moon cost about 1 mil in 30 years. So would you go if you couldn't afford a flight back?
P.S.  they'd have an abundance of genetically engineered green skinned super hoes one you get there.

I see no point going to the moon. You can go my more important places in mind. That will have greater implications and experience.

That you need to explore.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: WillGrant on October 16, 2010, 07:30:27 AM
I just returned from mars , dam that was good smoke
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: DK II on October 16, 2010, 07:33:25 AM
I just returned from mars , dam that was good smoke

top or bottom?
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Tapeworm on October 16, 2010, 07:36:13 AM
in 30 years there will be easier way to get to the moon.

nanotube elivator for example

(http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Editorial/090511/fatguys/fatguys-honeymooners8.jpg)
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Lundgren on October 16, 2010, 07:45:01 AM
I see no point going to the moon. You can go my more important places in mind. That will have greater implications and experience.

That you need to explore.
There's loads of helium3 on the moon, excellent source of cheap nuclear. Plus their's water, at a price of about 1000 dollars a liter, it may be cheaper to get it off the moon than earth. Also their's loads of a minerals in near earth asteriods. Something like 100 trillion worth of minerals in the asteriod belt.

At to that with nuclear propulsion you can get around space quite cheaply once you leave the atmosphere.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Jaime on October 16, 2010, 07:47:06 AM
There is fuck all in space, earth is where it's happening.

Once we get space travel it will explode, like when travelling to other continents first became viable, then you get used to it and everybody will be fucking bored with it.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: dr.chimps on October 16, 2010, 07:48:45 AM
(http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Editorial/090511/fatguys/fatguys-honeymooners8.jpg)
LOL. Nicely played, Sir!  "Bang* *Zoom*
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Lundgren on October 16, 2010, 07:51:09 AM
There is fuck all in space, earth is where it's happening.

Once we get space travel it will explode, like when travelling to other continents first became viable, then you get used to it and everybody will be fucking bored with it.
Lol there's loads of wealth in space, don't require light speed to get their either. Star trek has warped everyones minds about space.

It's easier to do alot of things in space, there are major advantages to leaving the planet. Cheap minerals, you have basically giant chunks of ore just floating around waiting to be used, even on earth most of our metals come from past comets that have hit the earth. Construction is super cheap because there's no need for crains, economy of scale works wonderfully, because everything can be built  large scale without gravity.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: dr.chimps on October 16, 2010, 07:52:27 AM
teleporters  8)
I'm sure even those will have occupancy limits, Jumbo.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Jaime on October 16, 2010, 07:57:13 AM
Lol there's loads of wealth in space, don't require light speed to get their either. Star trek has warped everyones minds about space.

It's easier to do alot of things in space, there are major advantages to leaving the planet. Cheap minerals, you have basically giant chunks of ore just floating around waiting to be used, even on earth most of our metals come from past comets that have hit the earth. Construction is super cheap because there's no need for crains, economy of scale works wonderfully, because everything can be built  large scale without gravity.


Just from a living perspective.

No doubt there are infinite resources, but all it would be is like earth but on a larger level.

Existence is still existence and people just fill their time with shit to do until they die.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Lundgren on October 16, 2010, 08:00:12 AM

Just from a living perspective.

No doubt there are infinite resources, but all it would be is like earth but on a larger level.

Existence is still existence and people just fill their time with shit to do until they die.
You got point, no doubt. Nihilist wouldn't survive very long up their. It would be for those that want to seed another civilization. The strong minded ubermensch. It's the next frontier. Much like alaska was. For some it's just another place to live, to others it would be about improvement.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Tapeworm on October 16, 2010, 08:00:35 AM

Just from a living perspective.

No doubt there are infinite resources, but all it would be is like earth but on a larger level.

Existence is still existence and people just fill their time with shit to do until they die.

Damn.  Bleaker than not finding inner peace at the Sea of Tranquility.  :(
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Jaime on October 16, 2010, 08:03:17 AM
Be cool to be left behind like the abandoned cityscapes in blade runner while everyone is running about colonizing.  :)
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Lundgren on October 16, 2010, 08:05:40 AM
Damn.  Bleaker than not finding inner peace at the Sea of Tranquility.  :(
Ironic as the first american's had it tuff as balls, Starvation, freezing, and barreness were the norm. Life is pointless without a direction. The trick is believing you really wanna get there.
Be cool to be left behind like the abandoned cityscapes in blade runner while everyone is running about colonizing.  :)
Good luck being trapped on a planet with few resources no room to grow, and a serious overpopulation problem.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Jaime on October 16, 2010, 08:12:12 AM
No, 99% of the population would have left, the poorest are the first to seek new horizons.

It would have all of the stuff the colonists would be working their asses off building on some far away planet or ship, but already there.

No population problems.

Technology to do whatever you like.

I just don't see the point in the pursuit of nothing in particular.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: YngiweRhoads on October 16, 2010, 08:18:45 AM
Obama has, for all intents and purposes, grounded Nasa.

India's space program looks promising. No joke.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Lundgren on October 16, 2010, 08:40:58 AM
Obama has, for all intents and purposes, grounded Nasa.

India's space program looks promising. No joke.
ROFLMAO, He's giving a massive amount of support to private enterprise to push space forward. So ironic that a liberal that privatises space, gets so much shit. In a decade Spacex has got the cost of launch to space cut down by a factor of ten. There's companies like bigelow aerospace, that are getting the cost of building space stations for 1/10 th the cost of ISS. These two companies alone are putting american's years ahead of the asians or euro's.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: YngiweRhoads on October 16, 2010, 08:52:51 AM
ROFLMAO, He's giving a massive amount of support to private enterprise to push space forward. So ironic that a liberal that privatises space, gets so much shit. In a decade Spacex has got the cost of launch to space cut down by a factor of ten. There's companies like bigelow aerospace, that are getting the cost of building space stations for 1/10 th the cost of ISS. These two companies alone are putting american's years ahead of the asians or euro's.

That's good news to my ear....errr...eyes. Why pull support for Nasa if he's using taxpayer funds to support private firms? ie. Cancelling the moon mission and pulling funding for the shuttle replacement and such?
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Lundgren on October 16, 2010, 08:59:25 AM
That's good news to my ear....errr...eyes. Why pull support for Nasa if he's using taxpayer funds to support private firms? ie. Cancelling the moon mission and pulling funding for the shuttle replacement and such?
Because they still hiring americans do the work. The tax money stays in america. Also it'll maintain american dominance in the industry. Also it provides loads of room for nasa to expand in the future. NASA should be about research not production.

Nasa should learn to delegate basic tasks. The tech of getting into orbit hasn't changed in 50 years. So why are we getting researchers to design rockets. The only improvements that are to be made are in efficiency something govs fail at and enterprise thrives. Nasa still has to figure out alot of things, but rocket design, is not on the list. There's still food production, probes, research, and 100 other things.

It's like getting a bunch of chemist together to make beer, it's overkill and that's what nasa is all about. Sure create a new beer, but hand it over to industry to improve, not a bunch of nerds that just sit around all day thinking up the most overcomplicated crap.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: YngiweRhoads on October 16, 2010, 09:01:39 AM
Because they still hiring americans do the work. The tax money stays in america. Also it'll maintain american dominance in the industry. Also it provides loads of room for nasa to expand in the future. NASA should be about research not production.

Nasa should learn to delegate basic tasks. The tech of getting into orbit hasn't changed in 50 years. So why are we getting researchers to design rockets. The only improvements that are to be made are in efficiency something govs fail at and enterprise thrives. Nasa still has to figure out alot of things, but rocket design, is not on the list. There's still food production, probes, research, and 100 other things.

It's like getting a bunch of chemist together to make beer, it's overkill and that's what nasa is all about. Sure create a new beer, but hand it over to industry to improve, not a bunch of nerds that just sit around all day thinking up the most overcomplicated crap.


Yeah, they have been talking more about streamlining their approach to space exploration and about researching new, more cost effective technologies.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Lundgren on October 16, 2010, 09:06:31 AM

Yeah, they have been talking more about streamlining their approach to space exploration and about researching new, more cost effective technologies.
And the COTS program is how to do it.
Thing is nasa should be designing nuclear engines, that's were they wold have a role. NASA was abot creating novel ways to do things which was good when they haven't been done. But for the last 30 years they've just being trying to find out novel ways to repeat the past cough cough Orion.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Fatpanda on October 16, 2010, 09:07:54 AM
I'm sure even those will have occupancy limits, Jumbo.

poor chimps still trying in vain to own be by making jibes about me being fat hahaha

heres a hint: all the childish insults you can come up with don't bother me,  not can they change the fact i wouldn't go for a beer with an old fag like you !  :-*
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: YngiweRhoads on October 16, 2010, 09:13:10 AM
And the COTS program is how to do it.
Thing is nasa should be designing nuclear engines, that's were they wold have a role. NASA was abot creating novel ways to do things which was good when they haven't been done. But for the last 30 years they've just being trying to find out novel ways to repeat the past cough cough Orion.

Something like this? ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NERVA
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Lundgren on October 16, 2010, 09:18:09 AM
Something like this? ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NERVA
Yeah basically. Would get the cost of traveling from Orbit to mars near zero, after the overhead of course. We got getting into orbit pretty cheap. With cheap space travel, we can really expand into manfacturing, agriculture, and mining.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Lundgren on October 16, 2010, 10:55:40 AM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1485155465058882626#


i ws posting a message on the girl board...and saw youre thread

cheers


Apparently Toxic avenger is still around.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: MikMaq on December 12, 2012, 07:44:55 AM
We should really go if that is what op is getting at.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 12, 2012, 07:51:54 AM
Damn.  Bleaker than not finding inner peace at the Sea of Tranquility.  :(
Exactly.
Title: Re: Going to the moon.
Post by: daddy8ball on December 12, 2012, 08:35:42 AM
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