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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Lion666 on October 18, 2010, 06:14:31 AM
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that kaatsumi training is getting a lot of pub out there from japan... also known as tourniquet training...
anybody have any info... they found that walking 15 min on treadmill can give more gains than squats... another figure is using 20% of 1repmax and getting same results in 2 wks opposed to 5 wks...
although i did see some info about the founder getting massive blood clots. story goes he overdid it tho and that 15 min sessions arent that bad, the veins "bend" so...
other training protocols have training 15 - 20 mins every 4 hrs 6 days a wk... lots of info on this fairly new "training technique"
anybody?
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i've had some great results in the past
(http://retecool.com/uploads/behanger-1239790884895.jpg)
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Could be dangerous.
Once tried it while training arms, though only 8 reps and a weight to get a mere pump.
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that kaatsumi training is getting a lot of pub out there from japan... also known as tourniquet training...
anybody have any info... they found that walking 15 min on treadmill can give more gains than squats... another figure is using 20% of 1repmax and getting same results in 2 wks opposed to 5 wks...
although i did see some info about the founder getting massive blood clots. story goes he overdid it tho and that 15 min sessions arent that bad, the veins "bend" so...
other training protocols have training 15 - 20 mins every 4 hrs 6 days a wk... lots of info on this fairly new "training technique"
anybody?
this sounds like a fucking horrible idea.
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Didn't work so well for Chris Benoit.
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this sounds like a fucking horrible idea.
i couldnt click "post" fast enough to agree with you on this one bro...
This is how you kill yourself...
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i couldnt click "post" fast enough to agree with you on this one bro...
This is how you kill yourself...
yeah man, it's like "doing cardio without breathing"
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yeah man, it's like "doing cardio without breathing"
funny thing is there are some mma guys that do the cardio with a mask on to restrict their air intake and "mimick" those later rounds...
think vanderli did it in one of those ufc access vids...
as far as the kaatsu training,,, i only did and arm n calf wrkout that lasted 8 mins each,,, weird pump and ya gotta lift light... i didnt do it long enough as the protocol states,, just wondering if any here did or tried to
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funny thing is there are some mma guys that do the cardio with a mask on to restrict their air intake and "mimick" those later rounds...
think vanderli did it in one of those ufc access vids...
as far as the kaatsu training,,, i only did and arm n calf wrkout that lasted 8 mins each,,, weird pump and ya gotta lift light... i didnt do it long enough as the protocol states,, just wondering if any here did or tried to
yeah, it was rumored lance armostrong would go train in high hilly areas because it restricted his breathing and would make his lungs work harder and expand or some crap.
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yeah, it was rumored lance armostrong would go train in high hilly areas because it restricted his breathing and would make his lungs work harder and expand or some crap.
That's high altitude training. Lotta endurance athletes do that. Been doing it for decades now.
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yeah, it was rumored lance armostrong would go train in high hilly areas because it restricted his breathing and would make his lungs work harder and expand or some crap.
Whaaat bro?
Almost every athlete trains in high places for some period of time every training season. Mostly I think Alps are the place where this magic happens. Those periods are called high place -camps or something like that.
(OK, dr.chimps was faster. )
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Whaaat bro?
Almost every athlete trains in high places for some period of time every training season. Mostly I think Alps are the place where this magic happens. Those periods are called high place -camps or something like that.
(OK, dr.chimps was faster. )
well i'm calling it crap because for most of us, myself included, we'll never need that "finishing touch". most of us couldn't keep up with lance for a mile on the bike, much less tour de france.
i always laugh when i see those marathon runners run an average mile faster than i could sprint .
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Those scrawny fuckers are all drugs manbearpig, all drugs and good sneakers.
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Interesting to see that 5 years after this Getbig posting, Kaatsu training (i.e. occlusion training) has hit the mainstream. The Wall Street Journal wrote an article about it today at http://www.wsj.com/articles/can-you-work-out-less-get-more-results-1450714676?mod=WSJ_article_EditorsPicks_3 (http://www.wsj.com/articles/can-you-work-out-less-get-more-results-1450714676?mod=WSJ_article_EditorsPicks_3). Scary development. Wonder how many will buy into this training method and abuse it to dire effect.
From the article: "The idea of restricting blood flow to enhance training isn’t new. Some body builders in America have bound their arms with bands for years, calling it occlusion training. Kaatsu’s proponents say Kaatsu offers a safer and more effective method.
The pressurized belts cause the limbs to fill up with blood. Muscles are activated and lactic acid accumulates, say some researchers who have studied exercise when blood flow is restricted. That tricks the brain into thinking the body is doing more intense exercise, which encourages muscle growth and burning of fat and helps the body repair injuries faster, say proponents of the technique. Other researchers say the ways in which restricting blood flow helps encourage muscle growth, even with a light workout, aren’t completely understood. "
Got to love this purported side-effect:
"Another reason for Kaatsu’s popularity in Japan: its purported cosmetic effects. The buildup of lactic acid during Kaatsu signals the brain to produce growth hormone, say Kaatsu researchers and trainers. There haven’t been any studies of how Kaatsu affects appearance, but some athletes and regular gym-goers say their hair and nails grow faster and their skin looks younger when using Kaatsu."
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Perhaps bodybuilders could get the same Kaatsu effect by training in tight clothes that are a few sizes too small.
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Marc Lobliner from Tiger Fitness using this method
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Bodybuilder's could probably get a lot of mileage out of a plastic bag over the head, a noose and a wobbly stool. Add a few DB curls and BOOM!
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funny thing is there are some mma guys that do the cardio with a mask on to restrict their air intake and "mimick" those later rounds...
think vanderli did it in one of those ufc access vids...
as far as the kaatsu training,,, i only did and arm n calf wrkout that lasted 8 mins each,,, weird pump and ya gotta lift light... i didnt do it long enough as the protocol states,, just wondering if any here did or tried to
If you have to wear a mask you are not doing cardio hard enough.
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If you have to wear a mask you are not doing cardio hard enough.
Or you're just really fucking ugly...
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Too weird for me guys, I'll stick to standard training.