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Title: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: Parker on October 18, 2010, 04:18:19 PM
Okay, over the last few yrs we have seen the oversaturation of the Pro ranks with piss poor quality. Ron what is the deal? Many of these guys (and girls) should not have been given Pro Cards from the NPC. They have more people entering the contests, meaning raking in more at the gate and entrance fees, yet piss poor quality...

Ya'll need to do something about this Ron and Isaac, seriously if this continues, you won't be seeing anymore Phil Heath's, Dex's or Roelly's anymore. In fact, look to more foreign contests to produce the better quality, like Roelly.
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: ThaRealist on October 18, 2010, 05:31:54 PM
Okay, over the last few yrs we have seen the oversaturation of the Pro ranks with piss poor quality. Ron what is the deal? Many of these guys (and girls) should not have been given Pro Cards from the NPC. They have more people entering the contests, meaning raking in more at the gate and entrance fees, yet piss poor quality...

Ya'll need to do something about this Ron and Isaac, seriously if this continues, you won't be seeing anymore Phil Heath's, Dex's or Roelly's anymore. In fact, look to more foreign contests to produce the better quality, like Roelly.

Dude are you serious?? Have you seen the "pros" these 3rd world countries have produced??? Most of them have the quality of a state/regional NPC show....The NPC nationals has the highest content of the best physiques in the world...Some do get pushed through due to who they know, but tough competition none the less
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: G_Thang on October 18, 2010, 05:39:09 PM
Okay, over the last few yrs we have seen the oversaturation of the Pro ranks with piss poor quality. Ron what is the deal? Many of these guys (and girls) should not have been given Pro Cards from the NPC. They have more people entering the contests, meaning raking in more at the gate and entrance fees, yet piss poor quality...

Ya'll need to do something about this Ron and Isaac, seriously if this continues, you won't be seeing anymore Phil Heath's, Dex's or Roelly's anymore. In fact, look to more foreign contests to produce the better quality, like Roelly.

you're absolutely right.  in the old days there were only 3-4 pro cards per yr.  didnt they give out like 4 at the jr usa or something like that?  i lost count around july-aug.  i can understand giving out 10 per yr for bikini to build up the pro ranks but men's bbing  ???  
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: Deicide on October 18, 2010, 05:40:58 PM
Okay, over the last few yrs we have seen the oversaturation of the Pro ranks with piss poor quality. Ron what is the deal? Many of these guys (and girls) should not have been given Pro Cards from the NPC. They have more people entering the contests, meaning raking in more at the gate and entrance fees, yet piss poor quality...

Ya'll need to do something about this Ron and Isaac, seriously if this continues, you won't be seeing anymore Phil Heath's, Dex's or Roelly's anymore. In fact, look to more foreign contests to produce the better quality, like Roelly.

You said we don't matter.  :-\ :'( >:(
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: Howard on October 18, 2010, 05:52:33 PM
you're absolutely right.  in the old days there were only 3-4 pro cards per yr.  didnt they give out like 4 at the jr usa or something like that?  i lost count around july-aug.  i can understand giving out 10 per yr for bikini to build up the pro ranks but men's bbing  ???  

Here is the deal:
The sport has become very insular.
They are NOT even trying to expand the fan base.
Most of those that went to see the Nationals were directly involved with someone in the show, or the sport ( judge, compete, former pro, etc).
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: ThaRealist on October 18, 2010, 05:55:50 PM
Here is the deal:
The sport has become very insular.
They are NOT even trying to expand the fan base.
Most of those that went to see the Nationals were directly involved with someone in the show, or the sport ( judge, compete, former pro, etc).

I agree, I won't go to a BB show due to it being just full of those that know the competetor and fag schmoes....It is getting ridiculous
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: Parker on October 18, 2010, 05:57:37 PM
Dude are you serious?? Have you seen the "pros" these 3rd world countries have produced??? Most of them have the quality of a state/regional NPC show....The NPC nationals has the highest content of the best physiques in the world...Some do get pushed through due to who they know, but tough competition none the less
That Greek guy, then Roelly Winklaar, other guys from islands who are amatuers, that boyish looking Russian, Japan and Korea have good quality muscle--albeit smaller.
You can not deny that the quality of Pros getting cards look like refries shit a la Robert B, abd even Jason Huh, they lack that crisp quality. These shows are only money makers for Mcmanion, that's why the men's fitness division, even the Bikini division.
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: affeman on October 18, 2010, 06:20:12 PM
European amateur:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=351457.0;attach=386623;image)

US Pro:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=352194.0;attach=387495;image)
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: Howard on October 18, 2010, 06:43:08 PM
I agree, I won't go to a BB show due to it being just full of those that know the competetor and fag schmoes....It is getting ridiculous

It is getting worse and I have been going to shows for over 3 decades, yikes.
I decided to fcous on smaller local shows where I enjoy a more "grass roots" bodybuilding atmosphere similar to what my ideals were when I started in BB. I will ONLY go the judging at bigger events that come to my area from now on. Screw the night show finals with 300 bikini babes and panting schmos in the crowd hehehe
Had I only gone to the BB prejudging at the nationals I would have felt better about the sport and saved some $$$...win-win.
I got to see some good bodybuilders compare, circulate in a less dense crowd, talk to Bob and others I enjoy seeing, etc.
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on October 18, 2010, 06:48:38 PM
your asking ron and issac to (not even say anything bad about) but to disagree with the NPC



.......................g ood luck, dont hold your breath

Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: Howard on October 18, 2010, 06:52:31 PM
your asking ron and issac to (not even say anything bad about) but to disagree with the NPC



.......................g ood luck, dont hold your breath


I think their thing has more to do with getting plenty of hot pics of the endless string of bikini babes sticking their butts out.
Hey at least Ron looked leaner and has lost wt!
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: Azure on October 18, 2010, 09:30:15 PM
I agree, I won't go to a BB show due to it being just full of those that know the competetor and fag schmoes....It is getting ridiculous


The last time I went was just to support a friend. I'm not interested anymore...Last time I went, I didn't even get any phone numbers...That's how bad it was ;D

Seriously though, Howard makes good points. It's very insular and I'd be very curious to see profit/loss statements.
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: KevinP85 on October 18, 2010, 10:23:13 PM
Two words "Peter Putnam." ;D

Jason Huh isn't too bad, young and has a lot of time.

Kuclo is my pick, I see this guy from time to time, works really hard, and has amazing size, shape and structure. Now if he can get his conditioning down he will be hard to beat. Will make a good pro.
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: KevinP85 on October 18, 2010, 10:23:58 PM
The last time I went was just to support a friend. I'm not interested anymore...Last time I went, I didn't even get any phone numbers...That's how bad it was ;D

Seriously though, Howard makes good points. It's very insular and I'd be very curious to see profit/loss statements.


For some reason I bet you smell really good!! ;D
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: Mattyh7688 on October 18, 2010, 11:08:48 PM
top foreign ifbb competitor

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/big/2006/2006sanfran_pics_pre106.jpg)
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: jon cole on October 19, 2010, 02:59:59 AM
this guy train at my gym, a lost gym in a lost town in the dark and cold North of France, only 22 years old, totally unknow but 5 time better than the average npc competitor of this year.
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: LatsMcGee on October 19, 2010, 03:01:57 AM
this guy train at my gym, a lost gym in a lost town in the dark and cold North of France, only 22 years old, totally unknow but 5 time better than the average npc competitor of this year.

MUSCLE GALLERY SCHMOE.
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: jon cole on October 19, 2010, 03:06:23 AM
MUSCLE GALLERY SCHMOE.


yep i know, i was shocked when i discovered him on it.

but considering only in bbing term that guy had potential.
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: jon cole on October 19, 2010, 03:11:34 AM
damn i can see the rage of delusion in his eye.
epitome of what makes people laugh and hate bbing.
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 19, 2010, 03:14:00 AM
 ;)The next Pro card.  8)
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on October 19, 2010, 03:20:43 AM
I made this point yesterday in another thread
How is it that there are so many pro cards given out in USA when many UK, German, Asian competitions have far better competitors and its almost impossible to get a pro card there
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: jon cole on October 19, 2010, 03:21:03 AM
what amaze me the most when i surf on u.s forum is the dose of gear that people use.

you can see lot of guy of 200pds cycling with 1000 of test e and 800 of eq and 75 mg of dbol  for 20 week and they look like shit, maybe they're too many fake gear in usa.

500 of test e and 400 of deca in h.g gear with few dbol is enough to make big boy explose in my gym.
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: spinnis on October 19, 2010, 03:24:51 AM
what amaze me the most when i surf on u.s forum is the dose of gear that people use.

you can see lot of guy of 200pds cycling with 1000 of test e and 800 of eq and 75 mg of dbol  for 20 week and they look like shit, maybe they're too many fake gear in usa.

500 of test e and 400 of deca in h.g gear with few dbol is enough to make big boy explose in my gym.

thats the first difference I noticed from swedish forums / american.

the insane difference in dosages. at least a few years ago.
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: jon cole on October 19, 2010, 03:31:35 AM
thats the first difference I noticed from swedish forums / american.

the insane difference in dosages. at least a few years ago.


i've got headache from high bp and nipples hurt just reading these forum.

too many fake, gh15 can confirm this.

in several post you can see stuff like "i'm on week 4 of 1000 test E e.w and don't feel anything..."


Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: MB on October 19, 2010, 04:22:22 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=352194.0;attach=387495;image)

Adonis Principles?
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: Bobby on October 19, 2010, 08:02:45 AM

US Pro:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=352194.0;attach=387495;image)

WTF is that ???
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: MB on October 19, 2010, 09:05:22 AM
WTF is that ???

That's a man who meets all the criteria to becoming an IFBB Pro.  There's a division for everyone, literally. 
Title: Re: NPC's oversaturation of the Pro ranks with bad quality?
Post by: Azure on October 19, 2010, 09:18:24 PM

For some reason I bet you smell really good!! ;D

But of course ;D