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US did find Iraq WMD
By DON KAPLAN
Posted: 12:44 AM, October 25, 2010
The massive cache of almost 400,000 Iraq war documents released by the WikiLeaks Web site revealed that small amounts of chemical weapons were found in Iraq and continued to surface for years after the 2003 US invasion, Wired magazine reported.
The documents showed that US troops continued to find chemical weapons and labs for years after the invasion, including remnants of Saddam Hussein's chemical weapons arsenal -- most of which had been destroyed following the Gulf War.
In August 2004, American troops were able to buy containers from locals of what they thought was liquid sulfur mustard, a blister agent, the documents revealed. The chemicals were triple-sealed and taken to a secure site.
Also in 2004, troops discovered a chemical lab in a house in Fallujah during a battle with insurgents. A chemical cache was also found in the city.
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I'm too lazy to post the link, but I read a small blurb in todays NY Post and Daily News about it. Apparently, there were WMD's in Iraq. I guess an unintended consequence of leaking hundreds of thousands of classified documents is that you probably wouldn't take the time to read them all.
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Notice no one is responding to this? Gee I wonder why?
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Does this alter people's opinion of Wikileaks and all the classified documents they leaked?
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evidence?
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Does this alter people's opinion of Wikileaks and all the classified documents they leaked?
No, and the little butt pirate PFC who leaked them should be hanged
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Does this alter people's opinion of Wikileaks and all the classified documents they leaked?
Why would it? Assange has all but admitted that he's trying to take down the US govt. and even his employees have said the company is going bankrupt because of his vendetta against the US. He's a fucking scumbag who, along with the MSM, had no qualms about releasing the names of Afghan informants and the like, despite the fact that it put them and their families at risk of retribution by the Taliban. A true dirt bag.
These "leaks" haven't proven shit beyond the fact that Iran has played a direct role in the murder of thousands of Iraqi civilians by arming, equipping, financing and training the insurgents and Shiite death squad militias.
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US did find Iraq WMD
By DON KAPLAN
Posted: 12:44 AM, October 25, 2010
The massive cache of almost 400,000 Iraq war documents released by the WikiLeaks Web site revealed that small amounts of chemical weapons were found in Iraq and continued to surface for years after the 2003 US invasion, Wired magazine reported.
The documents showed that US troops continued to find chemical weapons and labs for years after the invasion, including remnants of Saddam Hussein's chemical weapons arsenal -- most of which had been destroyed following the Gulf War.
In August 2004, American troops were able to buy containers from locals of what they thought was liquid sulfur mustard, a blister agent, the documents revealed. The chemicals were triple-sealed and taken to a secure site.
Also in 2004, troops discovered a chemical lab in a house in Fallujah during a battle with insurgents. A chemical cache was also found in the city.
well of course there were some from the 80`s that were left over, but does he mention anything about him trying to produce that shit since 95.
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i dont like this dirtbag - if another country did this, we'd bomb them. and he's sure not fcking with russia lol...
that being said - why didn't Bush, repubs, FOX news share this intel? We found WMD and none of them noticed? IMO, Bush would be on tv holding up the nuclear rods himself, saying "toldja so" to keep congress in 2006.
Link?
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Fox News: Declare WikiLeaks an 'enemy combatant'
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/10/fox-news-editorial-wikileaks-employees-declared-enemy-combatants/
it's hard to disagree... it's one thing for them to release some evidence of a war crime - but to just release millions of documents where afghan informants names are listed - and they're getting killed? That's insane. WIKI is undermining the war effort. If it's clear proof of a crime, leak it. Twelve pages. Etc.
But.... releasing EVERYTHING... that's bullshit.
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Fox News: Declare WikiLeaks an 'enemy combatant'
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/10/fox-news-editorial-wikileaks-employees-declared-enemy-combatants/
it's hard to disagree... it's one thing for them to release some evidence of a war crime - but to just release millions of documents where afghan informants names are listed - and they're getting killed? That's insane. WIKI is undermining the war effort. If it's clear proof of a crime, leak it. Twelve pages. Etc.
But.... releasing EVERYTHING... that's bullshit.
Meh he`s taking people lives in his hands, it`s a risk he`s willing to take for his cause. George Bush did the same. Its a fucking war its not easy.
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i dont like this dirtbag - if another country did this, we'd bomb them. and he's sure not fcking with russia lol...
that being said - why didn't Bush, repubs, FOX news share this intel? We found WMD and none of them noticed? IMO, Bush would be on tv holding up the nuclear rods himself, saying "toldja so" to keep congress in 2006.
Link?
My guess is a few containers of leftover materials from the 1980s is all they found. Atleast that`s what logic would suggest. It`d be hard to skimm over a few wmd`s labs.
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yeah, IMO there'd be a ticker tape parade for it, if new WMD were found.
if its just a few pieces from 91 that we sold them, decades past effective date, eh...
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::) remnants lol and you guys are going to post this crap as the big justification of Bush or some shit.... lol...
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Meh he`s taking people lives in his hands, it`s a risk he`s willing to take for his cause. George Bush did the same. Its a fucking war its not easy.
Get the fuck out of here with that shit. Taking people's lives in his hands? No, this twat is throwing them to the wolves because of his vendetta against the US. He's sticking his nose where it doesn't belong and he has zero regard for human life. There is zero fucking reason to release the names of Afghan informants and other people working against the Taliban. For someone who loathes the US this guy seems to be no different.
i dont like this dirtbag - if another country did this, we'd bomb them. and he's sure not fcking with russia lol...
My guess is that the govt. doesn't think the leaks are important enough. I'm sure if he was leaking something big they'd have killed him already.
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Crazy conspiracy theory I just thought of= Julian assage ( or whatever his name is) is still alive because Obama views Iraq as an unjust war and the US as a colonizing force. Therfore, fundamentally, Obama agrees with what he's doing and wants Iraq to become unpopular with the American public again.
If the US is as powerful as it's portrayed to be, this POS would be fertilizer by now. No way he's breathing unless Obama gave the order not to kill him.
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This is highly in question because at the time support for the war was waning. I wouldn't be surprise if the evidence was insignificant or unsubstantial. I remember a few years ago on this forum people saying 500 or some thing old artillery shells that carried chemical weapons that were probably left over from the iraq iran war were proof of wmd's. This sounds like the same thing. That's why the Bush admin never pointed to this stuff we are finding out now.
All of this crap listed does not justify the billions of dollars wasted and the thousands of American lilve lost from a war that was based on lies.
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All of this crap listed does not justify the billions of dollars wasted and the thousands of American lilve lost from a war that was based on lies.
they wanted a war. it's that simple. the reasons changed, but it all comes down to they wanted a war. everyone (well, their friends) all got rich. Sure, a shitload of ppl died but the decision making was one of utilitarianism, not some silly moral sense.
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I wonder if those were leftovers from the stuff Saddam purchased from the US with help from Rumsfeld
The tiny remnants they found sound like the equivalent of searching a house for drugs and finding a 20 year half smoked joint
whatever they found it wasn't anywhere near enough to justify Bush/Cheney's claim that an attack was imminent (can't wait for that mushroom cloud) or you know that Bush/Cheney and their propaganda arm (Fox News) would have been all over it
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Get the fuck out of here with that shit. Taking people's lives in his hands? No, this twat is throwing them to the wolves because of his vendetta against the US. He's sticking his nose where it doesn't belong and he has zero regard for human life. There is zero fucking reason to release the names of Afghan informants and other people working against the Taliban. For someone who loathes the US this guy seems to be no different.
Sticking his nose where it don`t belong rofl, you have a pretty narrow minded view. Stop being self absorbed. The majority of the western world see the iraq war as being a sham of coruption. I WAS FOR THE FUCKING WAR. But I admit it was coruption that got us there. You really can`t be that out of touch can you. There wasn`t any major WMD program, any more terrorist cells than say in Brussels, and Saddams rule was far better than the current situation. This is stuff the majority of the world will agree on, and the stastics and facts back that up.
The other facts are Chenny gave loads of contracts to his ex employer. Couldn`t explain that one purely a mystery.
This is what will be written in the history books. Sure I would of been for the war in 2003, but any competent military stradegist would realize this was a colossal disaster.
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Sticking his nose where it don`t belong rofl, you have a pretty narrow minded view. Stop being self absorbed. The majority of the western world see the iraq war as being a sham of coruption. I WAS FOR THE FUCKING WAR. But I admit it was coruption that got us there. You really can`t be that out of touch can you. There wasn`t any major WMD program, any more terrorist cells than say in Brussels, and Saddams rule was far better than the current situation. This is stuff the majority of the world will agree on, and the stastics and facts back that up.
The other facts are Chenny gave loads of contracts to his ex employer. Couldn`t explain that one purely a mystery.
This is what will be written in the history books. Sure I would of been for the war in 2003, but any competent military stradegist would realize this was a colossal disaster.
Sorry, it's well documented that this guy has a vendetta against the US and even his own employees have said the company is falling apart because of it. Instead of releasing govt. leaks from other countries, this guy's life now revolves around the US. Not to mention that their editing and handpicking of documents/videos destroys any credibility they have as an objective organization.
Him releasing the names of people working with the US and against the Taliban, thus directly endangering not only their life but the lives of their family and friends, is a complete scumbag move and shows this guy's true colors.
And why is it that retards always insist on lecturing people? You claim dyslexia but the reality of the situation is that you're a shitty gimmick.
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Sticking his nose where it don`t belong rofl, you have a pretty narrow minded view. Stop being self absorbed. The majority of the western world see the iraq war as being a sham of coruption. I WAS FOR THE FUCKING WAR. But I admit it was coruption that got us there. You really can`t be that out of touch can you. There wasn`t any major WMD program, any more terrorist cells than say in Brussels, and Saddams rule was far better than the current situation. This is stuff the majority of the world will agree on, and the stastics and facts back that up.
The other facts are Chenny gave loads of contracts to his ex employer. Couldn`t explain that one purely a mystery.
This is what will be written in the history books. Sure I would of been for the war in 2003, but any competent military stradegist would realize this was a colossal disaster.
SHUT THE FUCK UP. You never supported the Iraq war. Stop making shit up to make yourself look credible.
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SHUT THE FUCK UP. You never supported the Iraq war. Stop making shit up to make yourself look credible.
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Don't worry, man. He's just dyslexic. ::)
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Sorry, it's well documented that this guy has a vendetta against the US and even his own employees have said the company is falling apart because of it. Instead of releasing leaks for other countries, this guy's life now revolves around the US. Not to mention that their editing and handpicking of documents/videos destroys any credibility they have as an objective organization.
Him releasing the names of people working with the US and against the Taliban, thus directly endangering not only their life but the lives of their family and friends, is a complete scumbag move and shows this guy's true colors.
And why is it that retards always insist on lecturing people? You claim dyslexia but the reality of the situation is that you're a shitty gimmick.
Lol loads of people are dyslexic, why can`t you understand this. Tihs is waht I see wehn I raed on hree. Nhtoing you say or do wlil cahange tihs. Sineeg tihs you mghit uerdntsnad why my gmmaar scuks.
Bush endangered the lives of going to Iraq this is a pointless argument. Could`t care about his vendetta with the states, we all want the documents so stop complaining about the source.
Sure it`s wreckless it`s no surprise. But you can`t Illegally invade a country, with little support, no net benefit, and expect no fall out. This guys a douche bag no doubt, don`t mean he should get killed(can`t for one he`d be a martyr).
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SHUT THE FUCK UP. You never supported the Iraq war. Stop making shit up to make yourself look credible.
I did I too believe in spreading democracy through warfare if it can be done cost effectively and with low death count.
I`m for the war in afghanistan, have friends over their fighting right, now. Even voted for Prime minster harper who was for extending the role their. However the Iraq war was a botched deal poorly planned, corupt, and lacking in net benefit.
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WMD's - only if M stands for Minor as in Weapons of Minor Destruction. In saying that it's not loss Sadaam is gone, i do think he was a horrific leader and don't shed any tears he was taken out. But a small cache of weapons is not a WMD or WMD's. The proof is in the fact it was never released. It would have been bad PR to say "we found 'em" and come under scrutiny for such a small amount found.
As to this wikieaks loser, someone needs to take him out. I can not believe it's taken this long to a) find him, and b) neutralize him. A dead man tells no tales.
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This is highly in question because at the time support for the war was waning. I wouldn't be surprise if the evidence was insignificant or unsubstantial. I remember a few years ago on this forum people saying 500 or some thing old artillery shells that carried chemical weapons that were probably left over from the iraq iran war were proof of wmd's. This sounds like the same thing. That's why the Bush admin never pointed to this stuff we are finding out now.
All of this crap listed does not justify the billions of dollars wasted and the thousands of American lilve lost from a war that was based on lies.
Yes, exactly..
Why didn't the Bush Admin point out the alleged evidence..? I'm really stumped
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Yes, exactly..
Why didn't the Bush Admin point out the alleged evidence..? I'm really stumped
Because it`s merely a bunch of leftover parts, we knew there were leftovers from 91 so no big surprise.
You can find the parts for nuclear bombs in canada, don`t mean we have a full fledged force.