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When I first started working out at 15 years old, I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.
So, I'd just do ungodly amounts of pushups, situps squats and curls.
My workout would go like this:
Do a couple hundred pushups.
Do a couple hundred situps.
Do a couple hundred squats holding 20 pound dumbells.
Do about a hundred curls with the 20's.
It was a full body workout and i'd do this about 3 x per week.
I know that this workout sounds ridiculous, but it WORKED. Back then I was swole as fuck just from doing that. I used to think it was just because of the fact that I was so young and just started lifting that I got good results fromt his.
But now i'm starting to work out more like that again. Going low weight, high rep, high volume, and once again i'm blowing up MUCH better than I did off standard 8-12 rep sets.
Maybe each person's genetics are different, and this ultra-high rep stuff works for some people? Maybe i'm one of these people? What do you think?
I'm starting to think I should just throw all bro-science out the window and just do some really unconventional shit.
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Ultrahigh volume? Like when I smoke a joint and play 2 hours of Tiesto? ;D
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check out some of the Quads on the guys in the Tour De France. no homo
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check out some of the Quads on the guys in the Tour De France. no homo
Exactly.
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I'm really in favor of this high volume, light weight protocol, even for strength gains. Something with that volume just activates your muscles and you can feel it in your every day life too, things become easier. Many people have been, or is in the situation where they are limited with their equipment and resistance, and that honestly can be very good thing to happen to that individual.
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I'm doing a low-rep, high-weight program right now for the first time and I fucking hate it. Not sure how long I can last.
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Speed skaters
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Same happened to me.
When i started. i did like 6 exercises pre bp x 6sets. Very high volume.
all very light as i didnt knew about "failure" and other training techniques, just straight sets.
I grew like a weed...
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Speed skaters
And track cyclists
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When I first started working out at 15 years old, I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.
So, I'd just do ungodly amounts of pushups, situps squats and curls.
My workout would go like this:
Do a couple hundred pushups.
Do a couple hundred situps.
Do a couple hundred squats holding 20 pound dumbells.
Do about a hundred curls with the 20's.
It was a full body workout and i'd do this about 3 x per week.
I know that this workout sounds ridiculous, but it WORKED. Back then I was swole as fuck just from doing that. I used to think it was just because of the fact that I was so young and just started lifting that I got good results fromt his.
But now i'm starting to work out more like that again. Going low weight, high rep, high volume, and once again i'm blowing up MUCH better than I did off standard 8-12 rep sets.
Maybe each person's genetics are different, and this ultra-high rep stuff works for some people? Maybe i'm one of these people? What do you think?
I'm starting to think I should just throw all bro-science out the window and just do some really unconventional shit.
are you sore all the time?
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I'm really in favor of this high volume, light weight protocol, even for strength gains. Something with that volume just activates your muscles and you can feel it in your every day life too, things become easier. Many people have been, or is in the situation where they are limited with their equipment and resistance, and that honestly can be very good thing to happen to that individual.
u guys got pics?
(http://fhg.shemale.asia/sma/155_Summita_nvlbv/001.jpg)
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These high level athletes are also dosing on test and other shit, so it isn't surprising that they build muscle from the training.
I think the point is that one can make decent gains without the typical heavy power lifts .
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I was nothing that great but looked my all time best doing a couple months of high reps and NO heavy lifting.
You look at Arnold and the gang leading up to the Olympia and Universe in Pumping Iron.
They did mostly higher rep pumping.
Larry Scott did a thing called rushing the pump where he did a variety of super or tri sets to get a massive pump.
I honestly think doing reps and getting a pump is a lost art now with all the extreme drug regimes.
Just my 2 cents.
When I first started working out at 15 years old, I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.
So, I'd just do ungodly amounts of pushups, situps squats and curls.
My workout would go like this:
Do a couple hundred pushups.
Do a couple hundred situps.
Do a couple hundred squats holding 20 pound dumbells.
Do about a hundred curls with the 20's.
It was a full body workout and i'd do this about 3 x per week.
I know that this workout sounds ridiculous, but it WORKED. Back then I was swole as fuck just from doing that. I used to think it was just because of the fact that I was so young and just started lifting that I got good results fromt his.
But now i'm starting to work out more like that again. Going low weight, high rep, high volume, and once again i'm blowing up MUCH better than I did off standard 8-12 rep sets.
Maybe each person's genetics are different, and this ultra-high rep stuff works for some people? Maybe i'm one of these people? What do you think?
I'm starting to think I should just throw all bro-science out the window and just do some really unconventional shit.
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How your workout has fuk all to do with achieving results. Mind you pushups and situps and squatting like a girl won't help much.
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My training is very high volume about 25-35 sets per bodypart, 1 body part per day, training 5 days a week
And I do a combination of both low weight/high reps (25 reps or so), and high weight/low reps (6 reps or so)
Seems to work beset for me!
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My training is very high volume about 25-35 sets per bodypart, 1 body part per day, training 5 days a week
And I do a combination of both low weight/high reps (25 reps or so), and high weight/low reps (6 reps or so)
Seems to work beset for me!
25-30 sets per bodypart!!?? I do 10-12 per bodypart once a week. Even if you're mega-juicing, one doesn't need more than 15 per bodypart.
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Chest work out from this Week:
Seated Machine Bench Press
70X25
70X25
85X25
100X20
130X20
145X15
160X15
195X12
220X8
220X7
145X15
145X18
Incline Hammer Strength Press
100X20
100X15
140X15
190X10
230X8
230X6 (and a half :-D)
140X15
Cable Cross Overs:
40X23
50X20
Pec Dec:
145X20
160X15
235X12
295X8
Seated Machine Bench Press (different one than what we started off with)
80X20
90X15
100X15
110X12
Also did 6 sets of Calves to finish it off!!!
Leg Work out from this Week
Machine Leg Press:
90X25
Leg Press (Sled):
90X25
90X22
180X20
270X20
360X20
450X15
540X11
630X6
270X20
Leg Extensions:
80X20
100X20
140X No idea just kept going, maybe 18-20
180X15
220X12
250X8
150X As many as I could
Leg Curls (These were hurting):
65X20
65X20
80X15
110X8
110X9(and a half lol)
65X25
Hack Squats (The icing on the cake :-D At that point we couldn't go anywhere near heavy, just did what we could do!)
90X15
180X11
180X9
90X15
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Row, row, row your boat..
(http://www.stanford.edu/~fthomson/porter_lucerne2000.jpg)
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All about muscle contraction gents.......cyclists and rowers muscles contract like crazy thru their entire workouts...... many lifters try to move a lot of weight, but never really contract the muscle.....thats why you will see guys who look they have never been to the gym who can move some decent weight. At least thats my opinion.
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yes that is good. let's continue this way
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Chest work out from this Week:
Seated Machine Bench Press
70X25
70X25
85X25
100X20
130X20
145X15
160X15
195X12
220X8
220X7
145X15
145X18
Incline Hammer Strength Press
100X20
100X15
140X15
190X10
230X8
230X6 (and a half :-D)
140X15
Cable Cross Overs:
40X23
50X20
Pec Dec:
145X20
160X15
235X12
295X8
Seated Machine Bench Press (different one than what we started off with)
80X20
90X15
100X15
110X12
Also did 6 sets of Calves to finish it off!!!
Leg Work out from this Week
Machine Leg Press:
90X25
Leg Press (Sled):
90X25
90X22
180X20
270X20
360X20
450X15
540X11
630X6
270X20
Leg Extensions:
80X20
100X20
140X No idea just kept going, maybe 18-20
180X15
220X12
250X8
150X As many as I could
Leg Curls (These were hurting):
65X20
65X20
80X15
110X8
110X9(and a half lol)
65X25
Hack Squats (The icing on the cake :-D At that point we couldn't go anywhere near heavy, just did what we could do!)
90X15
180X11
180X9
90X15
No barbells or DB's in your gym?
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are you sore all the time?
I was wondering if maybe he was in a cell or something..
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No barbells or DB's in your gym?
LOL - well for chest because of my shoulder injury I'm sorta avoiding free weights right now.
For legs, well I don't squat so never really use a bar on that day!
I do deadlifts with a barbell ;D
Recently I have been using machines a lot more than free weights - may switch back soon!
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The good thing about high reps is that you have time to establish the mind/muscle link. With low reps, by the time you do so, the set is over.
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I was nothing that great but looked my all time best doing a couple months of high reps and NO heavy lifting.
You look at Arnold and the gang leading up to the Olympia and Universe in Pumping Iron.
They did mostly higher rep pumping.
Larry Scott did a thing called rushing the pump where he did a variety of super or tri sets to get a massive pump.
I honestly think doing reps and getting a pump is a lost art now with all the extreme drug regimes.
Just my 2 cents.
I agree with Howard. I'm limited right now with my home equipment, so I think I'm gonna give higher reps a try. I've always gotten the best pumps doing super sets and tri sets. Especially works great for arms...they swell up big time.
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I agree here as well. Since I've been really concentrating on feeling my muscles contract, my pumps are much better, and my muscles have gotten harder and fuller.
I picked up Arnold's Encyclopedia Of Bodybuilding at the Border's bargain rack for 3 bucks (steal!) and throughout the book he always emphasizes the importance of feeling the muscle work through the entire range of motion, as well as visualization...putting your "mind in your muscle". Makes all the difference in the world, IMO.
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Another advantage of higher reps is that it may well allow you to train without the fear of getting "stuck" under a weight that would be otherwise too heavy too lift after five or so reps. Something you can handle for twenty or more reps on say, the bench press, even should you become exhausted and rested the bar on your chest while performing the movement, would probably allow you to rest for several seconds and then push it up and rack it.
It also stands to reason that you are less likely to injure yourself with a lighter weight. As the reps progress, the weight will feel heavier to you and provide some of the benefits of heavier training, with less of the danger of injuries. Besides, as time goes and you become progressively stronger, what is light for you may well be thought of as heavy to other trainers, something I have personally witnessed. Remember, the heaviness/lightness of a weight is relative to individual strength and in no way detracts from personal effort.
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Agreed. And since my rotators are pretty jacked, a little lighter weight and higher reps are better for me in that regard as well.
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The calisthenic kings all look small for the most part. The record holder for push ups looks like he never touched a weight in his life. I could do 500 free squats under 15 minutes in high school and my legs looked like shit. It builds up endurance and perseverance. If you hit the iron after a long time with such a prototcol, you will quickly realize that you have no real strength. Your fast twitch fibers are not trained properly.
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post pics
do you hit a wall recovery wise?
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Rubbish. In essence you are advocating the use of pink dumbells for the remainder of a trainees life in order to get huge.
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I Know my cock get's Harder when i do high rep's of pumping
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When I first started working out at 15 years old, I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.
So, I'd just do ungodly amounts of pushups, situps squats and curls.
My workout would go like this:
Do a couple hundred pushups.
Do a couple hundred situps.
Do a couple hundred squats holding 20 pound dumbells.
Do about a hundred curls with the 20's.
It was a full body workout and i'd do this about 3 x per week.
I know that this workout sounds ridiculous, but it WORKED. Back then I was swole as fuck just from doing that. I used to think it was just because of the fact that I was so young and just started lifting that I got good results fromt his.
But now i'm starting to work out more like that again. Going low weight, high rep, high volume, and once again i'm blowing up MUCH better than I did off standard 8-12 rep sets.
Maybe each person's genetics are different, and this ultra-high rep stuff works for some people? Maybe i'm one of these people? What do you think?
I'm starting to think I should just throw all bro-science out the window and just do some really unconventional shit.
Post a current pic, show us what you're working with here.
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Post a current pic, show us what you're working with here.
Yes, chaos wants a good, hard look at you.
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i dont do any volume right now and still have 20 inch arms at 270
once i get back into working out and curing my heart condition with mega doses of vitamin c i will do high volume
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Yes, chaos wants a good, hard look at you.
:o ::)
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Post a current pic, show us what you're working with here.
Send my 50 bucks cash and i'll mail you a glossy autographed pic of myself posing in a cowboy outfit with my hard cock sticking out.
I'll even throw in my sweaty jock strap.
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When I first started working out at 15 years old, I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.
So, I'd just do ungodly amounts of pushups, situps squats and curls.
My workout would go like this:
Do a couple hundred pushups.
Do a couple hundred situps.
Do a couple hundred squats holding 20 pound dumbells.
Do about a hundred curls with the 20's.
It was a full body workout and i'd do this about 3 x per week.
I know that this workout sounds ridiculous, but it WORKED. Back then I was swole as fuck just from doing that. I used to think it was just because of the fact that I was so young and just started lifting that I got good results fromt his.
But now i'm starting to work out more like that again. Going low weight, high rep, high volume, and once again i'm blowing up MUCH better than I did off standard 8-12 rep sets.
Maybe each person's genetics are different, and this ultra-high rep stuff works for some people? Maybe i'm one of these people? What do you think?
I'm starting to think I should just throw all bro-science out the window and just do some really unconventional shit.
without a doubt i reckon its this...
when you first started, you were young and pumped full of test. whatever you did would yield results, and you trained your body to respond to that regime.
now that you are older, your new routine is hitting muscle that isnt used to that stimulus, so you not only dont have the test you had, you also arent exposing your muscles to a routine that you had adapted to.
so you barely invoke muscle me memory, learned rep patterns, and are doing it with much lower test.
of course going back to the old ways will give you decent results.
its unlikely that it has anything to do with a rep range or number of exercises.
either way, you need to learn how to work out what the variables are- not just put 1 and 1 together and come up with 54.
alot of things have changed since you trained like that. any one alone, two, three, or all in combination could generate this response.
you need to determine what makes sense- based on how the body/brain works- not what is the simplest cause and effect.
i may have eaten a chocolate bar when i had the flu last time, along with my medication. Do i think i got better because of the chocolate bar?
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without a doubt i reckon its this...
when you first started, you were young and pumped full of test. whatever you did would yield results, and you trained your body to respond to that regime.
now that you are older, your new routine is hitting muscle that isnt used to that stimulus, so you not only dont have the test you had, you also arent exposing your muscles to a routine that you had adapted to.
so you barely invoke muscle me memory, learned rep patterns, and are doing it with much lower test.
of course going back to the old ways will give you decent results.
its unlikely that it has anything to do with a rep range or number of exercises.
either way, you need to learn how to work out what the variables are- not just put 1 and 1 together and come up with 54.
alot of things have changed since you trained like that. any one alone, two, three, or all in combination could generate this response.
you need to determine what makes sense- based on how the body/brain works- not what is the simplest cause and effect.
i may have eaten a chocolate bar when i had the flu last time, along with my medication. Do i think i got better because of the chocolate bar?
True, it might just be that i'm shocking my muscles with different stimuli.
I'm gonna keep experimenting and see if that's what it is, or if the routine just works better.
I do know that i'm getting awesome pumps and I feel after after a good high volume, high rep workout. After more of and HIT style workout I just feel a lot more normal.
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Send my 50 bucks cash and i'll mail you a glossy autographed pic of myself posing in a cowboy outfit with my hard cock sticking out.
I'll even throw in my sweaty jock strap.
LOL
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Rubbish. In essence you are advocating the use of pink dumbells for the remainder of a trainees life in order to get huge.
That's how you make sure THIS stays a 10.