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Every year a "mainstream" reporter likes to make the comparison between Jay Cutler the bodybuilder and Jay Cutler the football player. The angle is played out but Jay offers up some interesting comments in a recent ESPN interview. Some come across a bit arrogant like, ""I'm the only guy on the planet that looks like this. If I wasn't, I'd have more of a challenge as Mr. Olympia."
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/columns/story?columnist=isaacson_melissa&id=5756000
'I'm the real Jay Cutler'
Bears QB's namesake has his back -- and a little advice for the embattled passer
By Melissa Isaacson
ESPNChicago.com
Jay Cutler, the world's best bodybuilder, has never met Jay Cutler, the Chicago Bears' beset quarterback, but he feels like he knows him.
That's because every day he receives e-mails sent to his website meant for the Bears' Cutler. And regularly at his autograph signings, he will see people in Bears jerseys and know that someone is about to be disappointed.
"Some will come up and say 'Hello,' "said the 37-year-old, four-time Mr. Olympia, "and I'll see others all confused and they'll leave."
It shouldn't be too confusing after the wayward Bears' fan catches a glimpse of the 5-foot-9, 290-pound world champion with the 34-inch waist, the 31-inch thighs and the 22-inch biceps. This Jay Cutler could be his own offensive line.
"I'm very recognizable as Jay Cutler," said the four-time Mr. Olympia. "I'm the only guy on the planet that looks like this. If I wasn't, I'd have more of a challenge as Mr. Olympia. The other Jay Cutler and I do not look alike. But these fans will see that Jay Cutler is appearing at a nutrition store and they'll miss the part that says, 'four-time Mr. Olympia.' "
It couldn't have been too much of a bargain these past 10 days to have the same name as the guy who heaved four interceptions to the same player, particularly when Jay Cutler turns up to be the butt of a Jay Leno monologue. But the "other" Jay Cutler is empathetic and, well, maybe even a little protective of his namesake.
"Everyone loves to be negative and count people out," says the uber Jay, who lives in Las Vegas but is familiar with the Bears' woes via NFL Sunday Ticket. "That's just the way society is. Tom Brady is a great quarterback, but if he didn't have the offensive line he has where he can stand in the pocket and shoot, shoot, shoot, he wouldn't be Tom Brady. And that's the problem Cutler is dealing with in Chicago. He can't use his talent, which is his arm, and his pocket is only so big. If your line can't hold people back, you can't perform.
"He's trying to make things happen, but what can you expect him to do?"
It didn't seem worth going into it. Besides, Giant Jay knows something about misconceptions.
"I weigh 280 pounds. What do you think people think when they look at me?" he said. "You hear comments. I've dealt with it since I was a teenager and bigger than everyone. 'This guy takes steroids.' I grew up working on a farm in Massachusetts. I didn't even know what steroids were."
Fresh off winning the 2010 Mr. Olympia, his second unprecedented repeat, Cutler says he does use supplements such as creatine and ephedra, which are banned in other sports, and reconciles himself to the risks involved.
"When the supplement industry is the biggest supporter of what you do, you're allowed to take these products," he said. "Of course, steroids are involved in bodybuilding and some guys are going to use them. There are drug-testing procedures and, like any tests, some people get away with it."
But the assumption that all bodybuilders take illegal steroids, he said, is "disappointing."
"When people look at the sport of bodybuilding, which is based on performance-enhancement, they assume this is what happens when you take steroids. What they don't realize is the commitment it takes day in and day out.
"When you mold your body to its top form for a lot of years, something you were always good at since you were a kid, and people say it's a chemically induced physique, it's disappointing because I work hard at what I do. We eat, sleep and train, and that's it."
You think football Jay has pressure? Bodybuilder Jay trains all year to be perfect for one two-hour session. "And you can miss it by days, hours, minutes," he says.
Or a judge can tell him it's not perfect enough. "It's crazy," he says.
While our Jay might take his girlfriend to a steak place every now and then, big Jay, when he's in training, eats five pounds of meat a day. He starts out each day with a breakfast of 20 egg whites and dry oatmeal, his first of seven meals and 5,000-6,000 calories per day, and also consumes three gallons of water.
Then he walks outside and people stare. "Honestly, people laugh when they see me," he says.
I resisted the urge to tell him that mini-Jay could no doubt relate lately.
The guy billed as the "most recognized and most personable" in professional bodybuilding is not defensive. And though he is the best in the world at what he does, he is far from aloof. Hey, he even did an interview on a Monday.
"Realistically," he says, "bodybuilding is not a sport. It's not beating someone with home runs or touchdowns. Bodybuilding is an art because you're crafting your best body. It's not about how much weight we lift. It's about carving your physique into its best form with hard work and God-given genetics."
Asked if he had any advice for the sometimes prickly Jay, nice Jay did not evade the question.
"A top professional handles the wins and losses the same," he said. "That's why I'm respected in this business, because I've won and lost and handled both the same way. He's obviously disappointed but he needs to do something about it and needs to realize that dealing with the media things are very, very important for his image."
Savvy Jay's income is laughable compared to his counterpart's, though his $1-2 million per year is as good as it gets in his sport and certainly not chump change. But you believe him when he says it's the challenge that drives him.
"It's the challenges, the obstacles, the people who said I could never be a great bodybuilder, the ones who told me I could never be Mr. Olympia or that I could never do it more than once," he said.
Though he's at the peak age for bodybuilding, he is looking to the future and a career as an actor. He just signed to do his first film, "Hercules Now,'' which he said will start shooting in 2011 and be out in 2012.
A "huge football and basketball fan," he was a talented defensive tackle at Wachusett Regional High outside Boston and grew up a New England Patriots fan, but his allegiance now is to Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts. He'd like to meet Cutler, the quarterback, and almost did once when football Jay was playing for the Denver Broncos and bulky Jay was contacted by people from his golf tournament and invited to play. But he was booked that weekend.
Maybe someday, he hopes. Somehow it seems our Jay would be the better for it.
"It's funny because everyone I meet asks me about Jay Cutler, the quarterback, and I always laugh about it and just say, 'I'm the real Jay Cutler.' "
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God, what bullshit.... :o :o :o :o
(except for the BB is not a sport part...)
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34 inch waist......BHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
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34 inch waist......BHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
beat me to it ;D
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"you didnt know what steroids were.."................huh jay..................... ....well, looks like you found out at some point
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", Cutler says he does use supplements such as creatine and ephedra, which are banned in other sports, and reconciles himself to the risks involved."
..........oh my dear god christ jesus ::) ::) ::)
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t, Cutler says he does use supplements such as creatine and ephedra, which are banned in other sports, and reconciles himself to the risks involved.
..........oh my dear god christ jesus ::) ::) ::)
Total utter bullshit, this is really a disgrace.
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t, Cutler says he does use supplements such as creatine and ephedra, which are banned in other sports, and reconciles himself to the risks involved.
..........oh my dear god christ jesus ::) ::) ::)
Wow :-X
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Total utter bullshit, this is really a disgrace.
im not even mad at cutler., so much as the stupid fucking idiot ESPN reporter who would believe that
these ESPN guys LOVE to act like experts on steroids and performance enhancing drugs............they love to pontificate about them
but this shows you how far up their asses their heads are.........they think fucking creating is a steroid-like dangerous supplement
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Wow :-X
I think he did well...totally skirting the steriods issue, I think politics are in his future...because the blind and ignorant always swallow responses like his.
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im not even mad at cutler., so much as the stupid fucking idiot ESPN reporter who would believe that
these ESPN guys LOVE to act like experts on steroids and performance enhancing drugs............they love to pontificate about them
but this shows you how far up their asses their heads are.........they think fucking creating is a steroid-like dangerous supplement
Yes i think that Cutler admitting to creatine probably gave someone at ESPN a major promotion... ::) ::)
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Why does he feel the need to lie? Just side-step the issue. ::)
"When the supplement industry is the biggest supporter of what you do, you're allowed to take these products," he said. "Of course, steroids are involved in bodybuilding and some guys are going to use them. There are drug-testing procedures and, like any tests, some people get away with it."
But the assumption that all bodybuilders take illegal steroids, he said, is "disappointing."
"When people look at the sport of bodybuilding, which is based on performance-enhancement, they assume this is what happens when you take steroids. What they don't realize is the commitment it takes day in and day out.
First off, it's not "some" guys, it's 100% of professional bodybuilders. Secondly, there are ZERO drug tests for steroids in pro bodybuilding. They do test for diuretics but NOT for steroids.
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"I weigh 280 pounds. What do you think people think when they look at me?" he said. "You hear comments. I've dealt with it since I was a teenager and bigger than everyone. 'This guy takes steroids.' I grew up working on a farm in Massachusetts. I didn't even know what steroids were."
Fresh off winning the 2010 Mr. Olympia, his second unprecedented repeat, Cutler says he does use supplements such as creatine and ephedra, which are banned in other sports, and reconciles himself to the risks involved.
"When the supplement industry is the biggest supporter of what you do, you're allowed to take these products," he said. "Of course, steroids are involved in bodybuilding and some guys are going to use them. There are drug-testing procedures and, like any tests, some people get away with it."
But the assumption that all bodybuilders take illegal steroids, he said, is "disappointing."
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So much bullshit in that article I'm not even going to bother.
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And regularly at his autograph signings, he will see people in Bears jerseys and know that someone is about to be disappointed.
*instant classic*
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asshole fever
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When I first moved to Hawaii thje University flew me to The Big Island to help with a football camp they were putting on there. IU was helping to do drills and workouts. My friend Nuu Faaola who was a standout there and NFL player got me this gig. Well we were being interviewed by a local paper and the interviewer was asking all kinds of football questions about the NFL. After the interview I asked Nuu what was that all about and he started laughing saying the guy thought I was Keith Jones a NFL player who Nuu played with. There is also a Keith Jones who plays in the NHL and NBA.
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I think he did well...totally skirting the steriods issue, I think politics are in his future...because the blind and ignorant always swallow responses like his.
This. He did really well, you guys act like he should come out and say, yeah, im nothing but roids, I slam a needle in my ass everyday and thats just it.
He never denied using juice, he never denied that steroids built he physique, he even went so far as to say that performance enhancers are what run the sport. WTF more do you people want from him? Especially since this was being said to an ESPN interviewer? Dude did exactly what he should have.
As far as the hearing the juice comments, yeah he wouldnt have ever got there without them, but to the general public, when they say juice, to them it means that all he had to do was stick a needle in his ass and it makes him huge. Hes probably referering to the fact that he will never get credit for all the days he loses to eating, and lifting, etc, all the sacrifices he makes, cause people just say "steroids". My .02.
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Good point. You start being open about steroid usage and the general public are going to think, oh he did some roids and won the Olympia after training for a year.
But the funny thing is, like all pro bodybuilders he is all drugs, You take the drugs away and you have a 5'8 guy with a blocky structure that weighs about 140 lb in contest shape.
As for the interview, i on't know what anybody would expect him to say.
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This daily creatine and ephedra injections
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/S46_yuqb4bI/AAAAAAAAHRY/L6edv5Dnt1c/s400/Jay+Cutler+Take+Steroids+-+www.Musclebase.Blogspot.com+-+06.jpg)
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This daily creatine and ephedra injections
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/S46_yuqb4bI/AAAAAAAAHRY/L6edv5Dnt1c/s400/Jay+Cutler+Take+Steroids+-+www.Musclebase.Blogspot.com+-+06.jpg)
Hahaha I knew that was coming.
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34 inch waist? :-\
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34 inch waist? :-\
That was when he was still a fetus.
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Yeah that was some BS. But he has to keep his story consistent, considering the mags state his waist as being that.
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That was when he was still a fetus.
A small "college" fridge?
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I'm sure Jay's interviewer felt like the interviewers who spoke to this man...
..just dying to laugh in Jay's face.
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A small "college" fridge?
Jay sitting in the car when he was a toddler.
(http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/yhst-86993463860622/MFcar2.jpg)
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hahahaha 34 inches waist !!!
In that picture my waist was a little bit over 34 inches ;D
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hahahaha 34 inches waist !!!
In that picture my waist was a little bit over 34 inches ;D
wow in that case cutler must be what what ?? 42? 44?
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or she could have just watched this...
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Monster integrity.
No shit people claim steroids from when you started lifting...probably because you were on since a teenager.
Obviously, there's no point in him saying...I take more drugs than you can imagine.
He's a hero to a few and just a drug abuser to most. But one of the best at it.
Maybe when he retires from bbing, he'll write a tell all book like Canseco and how the IFBB doesn't drug test and should be regulated by the government.
The thing is, these bbers are so dumb and don't realize that something like that could start a change in the "sport". Allowing them to train without endangering their health.
However, they're just addicts, like any other form....so why change what most enjoy doing.
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say what you want about but Jay Cutler the bodybuilder but he is alot more recognized around the world than the football player. Just do a google search and see how much hits you get on them.
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What is Jay supposed to say? I shoot up with steroids all day long, and don't use any of these shitty supplements? LOL. Give the guy a break. :)
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"you didnt know what steroids were.."................huh jay..................... ....well, looks like you found out at some point
This should send Dante running to give his "bbing and genetics" speach lol. Doggcrapp will be here soon mark my word
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What is Jay supposed to say? I shoot up with steroids all day long, and don't use any of these shitty supplements? LOL. Give the guy a break. :)
That's what most of these retards would say, which is why they are unemployed degenerates.
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hahahaha 34 inches waist !!!
Don't laugh Toney Freeman's is under 34.
:-X ;D
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I'm sure Jay's interviewer felt like the interviewers who spoke to this man...
..just dying to laugh in Jay's face.
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That's funny shit..This man has to have 4 wives, and have sex 15 times each day.
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Jay's easily a 44 inch waist.
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Jay's easily a 44 inch waist.
Make that "waste". :-X
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hahahaha 34 inches waist !!!
In that picture my waist was a little bit over 34 inches ;D
pussy pulling physique there.
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Every year a "mainstream" reporter likes to make the comparison between Jay Cutler the bodybuilder and Jay Cutler the football player. The angle is played out but Jay offers up some interesting comments in a recent ESPN interview. Some come across a bit arrogant like, ""I'm the only guy on the planet that looks like this. If I wasn't, I'd have more of a challenge as Mr. Olympia."
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/columns/story?columnist=isaacson_melissa&id=5756000
'I'm the real Jay Cutler'
Bears QB's namesake has his back -- and a little advice for the embattled passer
By Melissa Isaacson
ESPNChicago.com
Jay Cutler, the world's best bodybuilder, has never met Jay Cutler, the Chicago Bears' beset quarterback, but he feels like he knows him.
That's because every day he receives e-mails sent to his website meant for the Bears' Cutler. And regularly at his autograph signings, he will see people in Bears jerseys and know that someone is about to be disappointed.
"Some will come up and say 'Hello,' "said the 37-year-old, four-time Mr. Olympia, "and I'll see others all confused and they'll leave."
It shouldn't be too confusing after the wayward Bears' fan catches a glimpse of the 5-foot-9, 290-pound world champion with the 34-inch waist, the 31-inch thighs and the 22-inch biceps. This Jay Cutler could be his own offensive line.
"I'm very recognizable as Jay Cutler," said the four-time Mr. Olympia. "I'm the only guy on the planet that looks like this. If I wasn't, I'd have more of a challenge as Mr. Olympia. The other Jay Cutler and I do not look alike. But these fans will see that Jay Cutler is appearing at a nutrition store and they'll miss the part that says, 'four-time Mr. Olympia.' "
It couldn't have been too much of a bargain these past 10 days to have the same name as the guy who heaved four interceptions to the same player, particularly when Jay Cutler turns up to be the butt of a Jay Leno monologue. But the "other" Jay Cutler is empathetic and, well, maybe even a little protective of his namesake.
"Everyone loves to be negative and count people out," says the uber Jay, who lives in Las Vegas but is familiar with the Bears' woes via NFL Sunday Ticket. "That's just the way society is. Tom Brady is a great quarterback, but if he didn't have the offensive line he has where he can stand in the pocket and shoot, shoot, shoot, he wouldn't be Tom Brady. And that's the problem Cutler is dealing with in Chicago. He can't use his talent, which is his arm, and his pocket is only so big. If your line can't hold people back, you can't perform.
"He's trying to make things happen, but what can you expect him to do?"
It didn't seem worth going into it. Besides, Giant Jay knows something about misconceptions.
"I weigh 280 pounds. What do you think people think when they look at me?" he said. "You hear comments. I've dealt with it since I was a teenager and bigger than everyone. 'This guy takes steroids.' I grew up working on a farm in Massachusetts. I didn't even know what steroids were."
Fresh off winning the 2010 Mr. Olympia, his second unprecedented repeat, Cutler says he does use supplements such as creatine and ephedra, which are banned in other sports, and reconciles himself to the risks involved.
"When the supplement industry is the biggest supporter of what you do, you're allowed to take these products," he said. "Of course, steroids are involved in bodybuilding and some guys are going to use them. There are drug-testing procedures and, like any tests, some people get away with it."
But the assumption that all bodybuilders take illegal steroids, he said, is "disappointing."
"When people look at the sport of bodybuilding, which is based on performance-enhancement, they assume this is what happens when you take steroids. What they don't realize is the commitment it takes day in and day out.
"When you mold your body to its top form for a lot of years, something you were always good at since you were a kid, and people say it's a chemically induced physique, it's disappointing because I work hard at what I do. We eat, sleep and train, and that's it."
You think football Jay has pressure? Bodybuilder Jay trains all year to be perfect for one two-hour session. "And you can miss it by days, hours, minutes," he says.
Or a judge can tell him it's not perfect enough. "It's crazy," he says.
While our Jay might take his girlfriend to a steak place every now and then, big Jay, when he's in training, eats five pounds of meat a day. He starts out each day with a breakfast of 20 egg whites and dry oatmeal, his first of seven meals and 5,000-6,000 calories per day, and also consumes three gallons of water.
Then he walks outside and people stare. "Honestly, people laugh when they see me," he says.
I resisted the urge to tell him that mini-Jay could no doubt relate lately.
The guy billed as the "most recognized and most personable" in professional bodybuilding is not defensive. And though he is the best in the world at what he does, he is far from aloof. Hey, he even did an interview on a Monday.
"Realistically," he says, "bodybuilding is not a sport. It's not beating someone with home runs or touchdowns. Bodybuilding is an art because you're crafting your best body. It's not about how much weight we lift. It's about carving your physique into its best form with hard work and God-given genetics."
Asked if he had any advice for the sometimes prickly Jay, nice Jay did not evade the question.
"A top professional handles the wins and losses the same," he said. "That's why I'm respected in this business, because I've won and lost and handled both the same way. He's obviously disappointed but he needs to do something about it and needs to realize that dealing with the media things are very, very important for his image."
Savvy Jay's income is laughable compared to his counterpart's, though his $1-2 million per year is as good as it gets in his sport and certainly not chump change. But you believe him when he says it's the challenge that drives him.
"It's the challenges, the obstacles, the people who said I could never be a great bodybuilder, the ones who told me I could never be Mr. Olympia or that I could never do it more than once," he said.
Though he's at the peak age for bodybuilding, he is looking to the future and a career as an actor. He just signed to do his first film, "Hercules Now,'' which he said will start shooting in 2011 and be out in 2012.
A "huge football and basketball fan," he was a talented defensive tackle at Wachusett Regional High outside Boston and grew up a New England Patriots fan, but his allegiance now is to Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts. He'd like to meet Cutler, the quarterback, and almost did once when football Jay was playing for the Denver Broncos and bulky Jay was contacted by people from his golf tournament and invited to play. But he was booked that weekend.
Maybe someday, he hopes. Somehow it seems our Jay would be the better for it.
"It's funny because everyone I meet asks me about Jay Cutler, the quarterback, and I always laugh about it and just say, 'I'm the real Jay Cutler.' "
Jay drinks 3 gallons of Water a Day...
;D
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", Cutler says he does use supplements such as creatine and ephedra, which are banned in other sports, and reconciles himself to the risks involved."
..........oh my dear god christ jesus ::) ::) ::)
Hmm, seems very un-Jay like to be so cocky.
He should have said the other Jay Cutler ( OQ) was a great athlete and he had different athletic goals but BOTH sports were tough.
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Hmm, seems very un-Jay like to be so cocky.
He should have said the other Jay Cutler ( OQ) was a great athlete and he had different athletic goals but BOTH sports were tough.
Hello!!
Village idiot!!
Even Jay gets it, why don't you??
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Hmm, seems very un-Jay like to be so cocky.
He should have said the other Jay Cutler ( OQ) was a great athlete and he had different athletic goals but BOTH sports were tough.
People said he was boring.. he's obviously trying to change that stigma with the haircut and the cocky attitude. It's working a bit.
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People said he was boring.. he's obviously trying to change that stigma with the haircut and the cocky attitude. It's working a bit.
Maybe? But he's starting to lose me as a fan for whatever that's worth/ :D
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Maybe? But he's starting to lose me as a fan for whatever that's worth/ :D
Jay will not recover if he loses YOU as a fan. ::) ::) ::)
God, Howard, how old are you? You come across like a stupid 12 year old with your whole perception and knowledge about bodybuilding.
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Monster integrity.
No shit people claim steroids from when you started lifting...probably because you were on since a teenager.
Obviously, there's no point in him saying...I take more drugs than you can imagine.
He's a hero to a few and just a drug abuser to most. But one of the best at it.
Maybe when he retires from bbing, he'll write a tell all book like Canseco and how the IFBB doesn't drug test and should be regulated by the government.
The thing is, these bbers are so dumb and don't realize that something like that could start a change in the "sport". Allowing them to train without endangering their health.
However, they're just addicts, like any other form....so why change what most enjoy doing.
GREAT post and thoughts !
The only answer I had why most pros were so defensive about any real drug testing is some form of addiction.
Imagine how much cheaper and healthier it would be to to compete in pro BB without having to use extreme amounts of drugs.
Wouldn't it be cool if very pro BB could be honest and not have to lie about what really goes on.
If they didn't think it was wrong why would they need to lie about it?
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Jay will not recover if he loses YOU as a fan. ::) ::) ::)
God, Howard, how old are you? You come across like a stupid 12 year old with your whole perception and knowledge about bodybuilding.
Just being honest about how I feel, no more, no less,and no bullshit at least.
You think differently and that is what makes the ol' world go round.
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Hmm, seems very un-Jay like to be so cocky.
He should have said the other Jay Cutler ( OQ) was a great athlete and he had different athletic goals but BOTH sports were tough.
it woudl be hard to not be a little cocky in jay's position
he rules the bodybuilding universe, the people who run the sport love him, everything he touches turns to gold
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Just being honest about how I feel, no more, no less,and no bullshit at least.
You think differently and that is what makes the ol' world go round.
That you are honest is even the saddest part about it.
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That you are honest is even the saddest part about it.
Hey that's life. I still respect Jay for all he is done, but don't care for his new direction and attitude as a long time fan.
Opinions vary and he might be better off and make more $$ with the new image.
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many ppl drink and do drugs for free,,, sik of hearing n seein ppl complain that these guys take drugs and they oughta say they do yadayada,,, thats how they make money,, is ur smart u know truth nd if ur a mark u dont,,, if u stand on a soap box crying about it ur a smart mark looking for attention,,, ppl complain how unhealthy pro bb'r drug use is,,, yeah but the guy/girl that starts drinkin as soon as they get out of work everyday for yrs, thats ok tho... same thing basically,,, they're working then drinkin/drugn for free,,, these guys drug for work,,, whats the dif,,, its actually more noble the way bb'rs do it than reg drunks folks,,, besides erveryones gona die one day anyways
seriously not condoning or agreeing with anyuse stuff etc. or anything, who really cares about what anyone else does,just a flipside to the coin.
its like when ppl blame genetics sometimes oh soso has good genes and they take away from the hard work and cheapn the persons accomplishment. its a good thing but at the same time bad.
its prob the same for guys that take, there those ppl out there like yesteryear whn training was important than they prob took lil,,, nowadays it seems like thatz the only time ppl lift. look at the reality show guy, it dont even look like the guy lifts weights forget trains. for the ones that do train for real whn ppl acuse them or find out if they use, they always imply and negate the hard work.
then again i dont use so i dont know but i workd real hard year aftr yr to look like i do,especially to untraind exprncd indivdls ;)
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Hey that's life. I still respect Jay for all he is done, but don't care for his new direction and attitude as a long time fan.
Opinions vary and he might be better off and make more $$ with the new image.
I wasn't talking about that, i was talking about your naive thoughts about BB being a sport, about steroids, insuline, hgh, gays in BB and so on...
You're like a stupid 12 year old that has started buying FLEX magazine three weeks ago, that's really sad.
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He's right about it not being a sport.
Hmmmm it mainly appeals now to a lunatic fringe. I don't know too many that want to look like Jay or find his look attractive.
I did find it interesting that he said that people look at him and laugh. Haven't quite seen that before....
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say what you want about but Jay Cutler the bodybuilder but he is alot more recognized around the world than the football player. Just do a google search and see how much hits you get on them.
Not only that, he is a world champion. Jay Cutler the football player is an Inslin using interception machine ;)
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Not only that, he is a world champion. Jay Cutler the football player is an Inslin using interception machine ;)
really? u think lota playrs use siln?
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really? u think lota playrs use siln?
He meant insulin as Cutler, the football player, was diagnosed as a diabetic.
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He meant insulin as Cutler, the football player, was diagnosed as a diabetic.
Yeah, Cutler, the Mr Olympia would NEVER use insulin.
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5-foot-9, 290-pound world champion with the 34-inch waist
That's offseason. He's more like 32 inches at contest time.
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The ONLY reason the government hasn't stepped in with IFBB is not to many have died...They did it with wrestling though...The day the government steps in and tells them mandatory drug testing or they'll do it themselves or shut it down will be a funny and great day...The IFBBs whole business model revolves around these guys drugging it up...as GH15 says, no drugs = no bodybuilding...BTW I'm willing to put money on it that Dave Jacobs is still alive and is in the witness protection program...
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The ONLY reason the government hasn't stepped in with IFBB is not to many have died...They did it with wrestling though...The day the government steps in and tells them mandatory drug testing or they'll do it themselves or shut it down will be a funny and great day...The IFBBs whole business model revolves around these guys drugging it up...as GH15 says, no drugs = no bodybuilding...BTW I'm willing to put money on it that Dave Jacobs is still alive and is in the witness protection program...
Actually it's this hypocrisy that i don't get.
Everybody KNOWS that these guys are on tons of shit and that there is a whole system of steroid dealing, underground labs, steroids imports and so on going on, but it is tolerated except for the occasional bust.
Shut it down or allow it, but this is stupid.
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i think it sucks for jay in that 1) people laugh at him and 2) that people think he's all drugs, not knowing or caring to know or caring about the fact that he and others like him have to bust their asses lifting millions of pounds of weights for years and years, along with the diet and everything else.
of course with jay making 1-2 million a year does he really give a crap what these people think?
the epitome of irony and hypocricy that these people that laugh at him and think he's all drugs and what not are the same general population who are obese, eat like crap, smoke, drink and what not, but hey "their the normal ones" and how they "damage and abuse their body is like everybody else!
once had this discussion at work about steroids in sports and 100 %percent of every one went on and on that steroids kill, were horrible, etcetera. and this was based on? what they heard in the news of course! never having used, never having known anyone who used, never ever doing research, etcetera. one dude was going on and on about how bad they were and how they are illegal and they will kill you and yet a few minutes later tells everyone how he went out the other night, got shit faced drunk and while driving home nearly ran off the road! that is messed up his logic!