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Title: Can Testosterone Treatment Restore Fertility in Men? - is this true?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on November 07, 2010, 06:57:26 AM
Unfortunately, while testosterone supplementation can help achieve and maintain an erection and improve other physical barriers to conception, Dr. Paul Turek reports that "In fact, zero sperm counts occur in ninety percent of patients within 10 weeks of starting therapy."

Read more: Can Testosterone Treatment Restore Fertility in Men? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/facts_5831502_can-treatment-restore-fertility-men_.html#ixzz14bnyeA1q
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 07, 2010, 07:00:46 AM
Unfortunately, while testosterone supplementation can help achieve and maintain an erection and improve other physical barriers to conception, Dr. Paul Turek reports that "In fact, zero sperm counts occur in ninety percent of patients within 10 weeks of starting therapy."

Read more: Can Testosterone Treatment Restore Fertility in Men? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/facts_5831502_can-treatment-restore-fertility-men_.html#ixzz14bnyeA1q

I've read that if someone wants to boost test level, but remain fertile, docs prescribe Chlomid instead of test....
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on November 07, 2010, 07:01:15 AM
thats a lie

thats an old wives tale that you completely shut down the second you take some gear


i have knows PLENTY of bodybuilders who were so sure they couldnt knock any girl up, that didnt wear a rubber, and now are paying for it............literally. ............in the form of child support


i have been on pretty concistantly for the past year and a half, and my nuts havent shrunk even a little
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: 225for70 on November 07, 2010, 07:04:02 AM
Clomid makes me blind and gives me Visuals... ???

All steroids shut you down, it's just a matter of time..

Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: mass243 on November 07, 2010, 07:04:19 AM
BS

Even many pros have children...
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 07, 2010, 07:05:07 AM
I got my lady pregnant this summer while being on for months taking a gram of Test plus Tren,EQ,Primo,GH etc its true its a complete old wives tale, quite frankly a lot of the side effects of steroids are just made up ::)
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 07, 2010, 07:08:14 AM
I think you guys are missing that it's talking about "starting therapy" which would mean the person is probably low test to begin with, so probably has low count, and being on 10 weeks did not improve sperm count......or at least that is how I interpreted it.....
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on November 07, 2010, 07:10:22 AM
I got my lady pregnant this summer while being on for months taking a gram of Test plus Tren,EQ,Primo,GH etc its true its a complete old wives tale, quite frankly a lot of the side effects of steroids are just made up ::)



when talking about steroid side effects they take the exception and make it the rule


in other words, if you ask most doctors what happens when you take steroids........they will say, acne, gynomastia, baldness, hair loss......like it will happen to everyone

when in reality it happens to a really small percentage of users



other then steroids expediting baldness, its really a lot of bullshit
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 07, 2010, 07:15:40 AM


when talking about steroid side effects they take the exception and make it the rule


in other words, if you ask most doctors what happens when you take steroids........they will say, acne, gynomastia, baldness, hair loss......like it will happen to everyone

when in reality it happens to a really small percentage of users



other then steroids expediting baldness, its really a lot of bullshit

Yes I agree, the only side effect ive ever had is some acne on my back, not really bad, i started to grow hair on my back once i upped the Test, but ive never had gyno,my balls never shrunk, ive never had dick trouble even when using Deca, i still have a full head of hair, i get my full medical every 6 months and no problems so far, all my mates who juice have been fine also, i think the guys that have libido or fertility problems had issues before they took juice
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on November 07, 2010, 07:16:50 AM
I got my lady pregnant this summer while being on for months taking a gram of Test plus Tren,EQ,Primo,GH etc its true its a complete old wives tale, quite frankly a lot of the side effects of steroids are just made up ::)
Special needs child
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: Rami on November 07, 2010, 07:17:59 AM
thats a lie

thats an old wives tale that you completely shut down the second you take some gear


i have knows PLENTY of bodybuilders who were so sure they couldnt knock any girl up, that didnt wear a rubber, and now are paying for it............literally. ............in the form of child support


i have been on pretty concistantly for the past year and a half, and my nuts havent shrunk even a little


congratulations, you been paying for bunk gear for 1.5 years
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 07, 2010, 07:21:10 AM
Special needs child

You are the one with ''special needs''
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: mass243 on November 07, 2010, 07:21:20 AM


when talking about steroid side effects they take the exception and make it the rule


in other words, if you ask most doctors what happens when you take steroids........they will say, acne, gynomastia, baldness, hair loss......like it will happen to everyone

when in reality it happens to a really small percentage of users



other then steroids expediting baldness, its really a lot of bullshit

You're probably right. Only side effect I've seen was when one dude went crazy and shot himself...  but that's only one I've seen (didn't saw it when it happened but you know..)
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on November 07, 2010, 07:26:18 AM
You are the one with ''special needs''
Your life will never be the same. My thoughts will be with you & your baby's momma.
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Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 07, 2010, 07:27:10 AM
Your life will never be the same. My thoughts will be with you & your baby's momma.

You speak from experience then ::)
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on November 07, 2010, 07:32:10 AM
You speak from experience then ::)

Timmaahh
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: 225for70 on November 07, 2010, 07:35:41 AM
Yes I agree, the only side effect ive ever had is some acne on my back, not really bad, i started to grow hair on my back once i upped the Test, but ive never had gyno,my balls never shrunk, ive never had dick trouble even when using Deca, i still have a full head of hair, i get my full medical every 6 months and no problems so far, all my mates who juice have been fine also, i think the guys that have libido or fertility problems had issues before they took juice

Everyone suffers from different side effects.  i never get any pimples from Gear...However, i experience other sides that you don't get.
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on November 07, 2010, 07:40:02 AM
Everyone suffers from different side effects.  i never get any pimples from Gear...However, i experience other sides that you don't get.

ED you say?
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: 225for70 on November 07, 2010, 07:41:19 AM

ED you say?

No, atrophied testes...Loss of libido(desire)...However, no ED...
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on November 07, 2010, 07:44:23 AM
No, atrophied testes...Loss of libido(desire)...However, no ED...

At least you won't have a retarded baby.
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on November 07, 2010, 07:45:47 AM
You're probably right. Only side effect I've seen was when one dude went crazy and shot himself...  but that's only one I've seen (didn't saw it when it happened but you know..)




how can you say that was because of steroids


the guy could have been chronically unhappy for a long period of time


people decide to kill themselves everyday............



steroids dont have an effect on the mind like that, im sorry to tell you........they arent a narcotic that elicits an emotional reaction
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: mass243 on November 07, 2010, 07:59:26 AM


how can you say that was because of steroids


the guy could have been chronically unhappy for a long period of time


people decide to kill themselves everyday............



steroids dont have an effect on the mind like that, im sorry to tell you........they arent a narcotic that elicits an emotional reaction

You are right.. I was more like just foolin' around on this as everyone always claims steroids if something like this shit happens...

Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on November 07, 2010, 08:14:04 AM
You are right.. I was more like just foolin' around on this as everyone always claims steroids if something like this shit happens...




they sure do....

like that asshole father in texas who was pushing his kid to be a pro athlete, would nt  allow him to have a life............the kid was miserable


on numerous anti-depressants (whose proven connection to suicide has been known for a long time)

and in a last ditch effort to satisfy his father he took some steroids........a couple weeks later he killed himself



of course it wasnt the awful parenting that drove the teen to suicide, it wasnt the numerous anti depressants...........it was the steroids he took for a few weeks ::) ::)
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: disco_stu on November 07, 2010, 11:47:30 AM


how can you say that was because of steroids


the guy could have been chronically unhappy for a long period of time


people decide to kill themselves everyday............



steroids dont have an effect on the mind like that, im sorry to tell you........they arent a narcotic that elicits an emotional reaction

you are completely wrong. a drug doesnt need to be a narcotic to yield an emotional response.

test saturation ends up competing for spaces in the brain, affecting emotion, happiness and all sorts of neurological pathways. it is well proven that it has a significant effect on the brain through several mechanisms..not just receptor centric.

you need to do some homework.

Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 08, 2010, 03:54:32 AM

At least you won't have a retarded baby.
Someone is getting brave today...
I think someone should post your pics, you stuid looking bastard, your wife/partner looks like a man too, seriously
And that Captain America tattoo...
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: WillGrant on November 08, 2010, 04:30:42 AM
My nuts went missing when I started lol but this is not to say it happens to everyone , its a "potential" side effect .I only get the odd pimple where as my gym buddy breaks out like a pizza , we are all different.
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 08, 2010, 05:00:00 AM
thats a lie

thats an old wives tale that you completely shut down the second you take some gear


i have knows PLENTY of bodybuilders who were so sure they couldnt knock any girl up, that didnt wear a rubber, and now are paying for it............literally. ............in the form of child support


i have been on pretty concistantly for the past year and a half, and my nuts havent shrunk even a little

LOL me too, and in the same boat i know one not very well known pro that after juicing for 15+ years wasn't able to have children, his wife is traumatized cause all she ever wanted was a family.. I feel bad for him, he is a friend.
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: Overload on November 08, 2010, 06:53:54 AM
I had my sperm count done after being on 1500mg of Test for almost a year. The count was within normal but my swimmers were very weak. My Endo said i shouldn't have any problems having kids and 6 months after i came off all AAS my count was still normal and my swimmers were slightly improved.

I personally know 8 men who have been on AAS for over 10 years and all of them have multiple children.

I also know 5 men who have never used AAS in their life and they are having serious fertility issues and cannot get their wives pregnant.

Just my .02


8)
Title: Re: Interesting statistic..............wonder how true it is.....
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on November 08, 2010, 07:00:34 AM
you are completely wrong. a drug doesnt need to be a narcotic to yield an emotional response.

test saturation ends up competing for spaces in the brain, affecting emotion, happiness and all sorts of neurological pathways. it is well proven that it has a significant effect on the brain through several mechanisms..not just receptor centric.

you need to do some homework.




your not a smart person, you probably have no experience with steroids


stop embarrassing yourself.