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Title: Irelands African problems
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 09, 2010, 07:54:39 AM
Central Statistics office shows that:
37% of African nationals are claiming full social and housing
4% of Irish nationals are claiming full social and housing
1% of English nationals are claiming social and housing.

And if Hedgehog the fucking fag bastard moves this to political board I will start proceedings to have him removed as a mod
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Devon97 on November 09, 2010, 07:55:43 AM
It's a lot worse in the USA. COnsider yourself lucky!
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 07:57:54 AM
It's a lot worse in the USA. COnsider yourself lucky!
Yeah but it's entirely different there's  a whole fucked up history that caused it. Irish invited them in, they fucked around. Simple.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 09, 2010, 08:00:10 AM
Central Statistics office shows that:
37% of African nationals are claiming full social and housing
4% of Irish nationals are claiming full social and housing
1% of English nationals are claiming social and housing.

And if Hedgehog the fucking fag bastard moves this to political board I will start proceedings to have him removed as a mod

Shit, you guys should see America...

those cotton pickin' days are gonna haunt us forever..
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 08:09:49 AM
Shit, you guys should see America...

those cotton pickin' days are gonna haunt us forever..

again irrelavant black americans were forced without choice into poverty until 1965. This shit don't dissapear in a generation.

These people were invited into the country under the premise they would contribute to ireland. Don't make this something it's not.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on November 09, 2010, 08:14:29 AM
its not their fault, they cant help who they are....its deeply socioculturally and biologically ingrained


its the fault of  contemptible white, self hating , bleeding heart liberals ...............who have been taught by the jewish media to hate their own history and identity so much, they feel obligated to give their country and tax dollars over these animals



its our own fault, 100%
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 09, 2010, 08:15:07 AM
again irrelavant black americans were forced without choice into poverty until 1965. This shit don't dissapear in a generation.

These people were invited into the country under the premise they would contribute to ireland. Don't make this something it's not.

Bullshit, look at the whole continent of Africa.. see a familiar pattern?!?? poverty, disease, infestation, parents that don't care for their kids and only think of their selfish needs ?

Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 08:16:17 AM
Bullshit, look at the whole continent of Africa.. see a familiar pattern?!?? poverty, disease, infestation, parents that don't care for their kids and only think of their selfish needs ?


Same shit you see in anywhere near the equator. It's the 3rd world nimrod.

Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Tapeworm on November 09, 2010, 08:17:57 AM
Devil's advocate here.  What are they supposed to do when no one will hire them because they're black?  Of course they're in financial straits.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 08:20:30 AM
Devil's advocate here.  What are they supposed to do when no one will hire them because they're black?  Of course they're in financial straits.
Don't go to fucking ireland. I wouldn't go there to go on welfare, and I'm more than alittle irish. They simply take no respect for where they are. Free loading shit sniffers. You gotta realize to get out of most of these places you need to skim from your fellow people to get out, so they see less than a problem with skimming from a bunch of foriegners that give it to em willingly.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on November 09, 2010, 08:20:40 AM
Same shit you see in anywhere near the equator. It's the 3rd world nimrod.




what fucking planet are you from.........were talking about an entire continent (the most resource rich in the world) that cant get thier shit together...........you think at least one country in africa would be successful by accident at least according to the law of averages

a continent of shit........

except the part that was being run by whites...........but that was obviously too successful..........so they had to hand it back over to blacks..........and like MAGIC......within a few short years, the farms became dustbowls, production ceased, economy collapsed, and cities turned into warzones
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 09, 2010, 08:21:42 AM
Same shit you see in anywhere near the equator. It's the 3rd world nimrod.



Equator!?! you idiot, do you realize how large Africa is ?!?!

LOL, way to fail grade 3

(http://www.feedingminds.org/img/map_world.jpg)
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 08:27:49 AM
You fuck don't know fuck all about africa or geography. Yes there rich in minearals and oil. But it's been proven time and time again that it does fuck all for net growth, as coruption just sucks it all up.

The countries that can grow are the ones that either have unified economies(china singapoor, south korea,) or ones that have a strong agricultural base(india, brazil, etc.)
Of course culture has a huge part to do with it. Cultures take centuries to develope the shit don't happen over night. Small changes like womens rights still hasn't been worked out over a century after the shit started. China and india, have been permanent civilizations for more than 2000 years. You can't compare them to a burmese(south asian's) Nigerians, or Jamicans who have had their culture erased by european powers.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Tapeworm on November 09, 2010, 08:30:39 AM
Don't go to fucking ireland. I wouldn't go there to go on welfare, and I'm more than alittle irish. They simply take no respect for where they are. Free loading shit sniffers. You gotta realize to get out of most of these places you need to skim from your fellow people to get out, so they see less than a problem with skimming from a bunch of foriegners that give it to em willingly.

I never knew.  Guess I'm just not as worldly as you.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 09, 2010, 08:31:44 AM
You fuck don't know fuck all about africa or geography. Yes there rich in minearals and oil. But it's been proven time and time again that it does fuck all for net growth, as coruption just sucks it all up.

The countries that can grow are the ones that either have unified economies(china singapoor, south korea,) or ones that have a strong agricultural base(india, brazil, etc.)
Of course culture has a huge part to do with it. Cultures take centuries to develope the shit don't happen over night. Small changes like womens rights still hasn't been worked out over a century after the shit started. China and india, have been permanent civilizations for more than 2000 years. You can't compare them to a burmese(south asian's) Nigerians, or Jamicans who have had their culture erased by european powers.

Social Darwinism 101: Survival of the Fittest.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on November 09, 2010, 08:31:58 AM
right, unified production based economies

like south africa had..................oop s..................UNTIL ...............power was transitioned back to blacks


literally in like two seasons some of the best farmland on the planet just became dust ;D ;D
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on November 09, 2010, 08:34:22 AM
Social Darwinism 101: Survival of the Fittest.



yep, "progressives" like this douch LOVE them some Darwin


except in this case, in this specific case when it comes to african-descendant people being a failed people who couldnt survive without being babysat by whites...........in this circumstance darwinism gets thrown out the window ;D ;D
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Devon97 on November 09, 2010, 08:36:31 AM
again irrelavant black americans  were forced without choice into poverty until 1965. This shit don't dissapear in a generation.

These people were invited into the country under the premise they would contribute  to ireland. Don't make this something it's not.


You lost me here lol ???
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: jpm101 on November 09, 2010, 08:38:53 AM
After over two hundred years of finally getting the British out of Ireland, the Irish let the Africans in and live off the public dole? Any Muslim problem yet I wonder? Guess so, lots of black Muslims from Africa. And rape seems a past time for them, as they are doing in present Sweden.

Estimate that over 100,000 Irish (including women and children) were taken by the British and used as slaves in the Caribbean, Central and South America. They worked and were quarters with the blacks. Mother England owes the Irish quite a bit. Blacks aren't the only ones who can pull the race card.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Option D on November 09, 2010, 08:46:16 AM
This lundgren guy knows his shit
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 09, 2010, 08:49:15 AM
You fuck don't know fuck all about africa or geography. Yes there rich in minearals and oil. But it's been proven time and time again that it does fuck all for net growth, as coruption just sucks it all up.

The countries that can grow are the ones that either have unified economies(china singapoor, south korea,) or ones that have a strong agricultural base(india, brazil, etc.)
Of course culture has a huge part to do with it. Cultures take centuries to develope the shit don't happen over night. Small changes like womens rights still hasn't been worked out over a century after the shit started. China and india, have been permanent civilizations for more than 2000 years. You can't compare them to a burmese(south asian's) Nigerians, or Jamicans who have had their culture erased by european powers.

this is not the case at all..you need to go over your history
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Ex Coelis on November 09, 2010, 08:49:44 AM
ironically, the streets of Dublin have looked worse

Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 08:51:27 AM

except in this case, in this specific case when it comes to african-descendant people being a failed people who couldnt survive without being babysat by whites...........in this circumstance darwinism gets thrown out the window ;D ;D
African's have been given 45 years to turn things around. Europeans had about 500 year start. So fuck off.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 09, 2010, 08:51:43 AM
After over two hundred years of finally getting the British out of Ireland, the Irish let the Africans in and live off the public dole? Any Muslim problem yet I wonder? Guess so, lots of black Muslims from Africa. And rape seems a past time for them, as they are doing in present Sweden.

Estimate that over 100,000 Irish (including women and children) were taken by the British and used as slaves in the Caribbean, Central and South America. They worked and were quarters with the blacks. Mother England owes the Irish quite a bit. Blacks aren't the only ones who can pull the race card.
Not much muslim problems yet, but give it time
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 09, 2010, 08:52:03 AM

yep, "progressives" like this douch LOVE them some Darwin


except in this case, in this specific case when it comes to african-descendant people being a failed people who couldnt survive without being babysat by whites...........in this circumstance darwinism gets thrown out the window ;D ;D

QFT
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 09, 2010, 08:52:28 AM
16 June 2010
A failed asylum seeker assumed the identity of a dead woman to secure work and claim over €18,000 worth of social welfare payments in Limerick.
Izabel Zuwa from Nigeria and with an address at Crossley House, Dock Road, Limerick has been jailed for 6 months at Limerick District Court.
She pleaded guilty to two charges after presenting the dead woman's passport for inspection at the Dept of Social Welfare Offices on Dominic St on the 15th of March this year.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 08:54:06 AM
Not much muslim problems yet, but give it time
It don't matter if their muslim chrisitan hindu whatever. Point is if you leave your front door unlocked bad sht will happen.

The simply solution is don't offer citizen ship until there 2nd generation. No welfare, etc unless your parents were born in the counrty, and deport anyone that fucks around. I wouldn't invite someone into my house and treat them like I would my own child why the fuck would I do it with my country.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 09, 2010, 08:55:10 AM
again irrelavant black americans were forced without choice into poverty until 1965. This shit don't dissapear in a generation.


asians immigrants to america were oppressed and treated like shit and mostly stuck in isolated communities until the 2nd half of the 20th century. from the day they arrived in masse around the 1850's until over a hundred years later they got essentially the same treatment as the blacks did. yet today they are what is known as 'the model minority'...the yellow fellows made it ok, whereas the blacks continue to make excuses and play the 'but we were slaves 100 years ago!' card  ::)
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 08:56:37 AM
asians immigrants to america were oppressed and treated like shit and mostly stuck in isolated communities until the 2nd half of the 20th century. from the day they arrived in masse around the 1850's until over a hundred years later they got essentially the same treatment as the blacks did. yet today they are what is known as 'the model minority'...the yellow fellows made it ok, whereas the blacks continue to make excuses and play the 'but we were slaves 100 years ago!' card  ::)
Because they had a constant supply of people from china constantly keeping them going. Just look at the vietmanese, they fall way below the chinese race ain't the issue.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 09, 2010, 08:57:40 AM
It don't matter if their muslim chrisitan hindu whatever. Point is if you leave your front door unlocked bad sht will happen.

The simply solution is don't offer citizen ship until there 2nd generation. No welfare, etc unless your parents were born in the counrty, and deport anyone that fucks around. I wouldn't invite someone into my house and treat them like I would my own child why the fuck would I do it with my country.
Well Irish citizens would love to have it like that, but we dont, africans get benefits and housing well before they are given citizenship
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 09, 2010, 08:57:53 AM
asians immigrants to america were oppressed and treated like shit and mostly stuck in isolated communities until the 2nd half of the 20th century. from the day they arrived in masse around the 1850's until over a hundred years later they got essentially the same treatment as the blacks did. yet today they are what is known as 'the model minority'...the yellow fellows made it ok, whereas the blacks continue to make excuses and play the 'but we were slaves 100 years ago!' card  ::)

Hell yeah, the beginning of the 20th century was worse for Asians then it was for Africans, the Asians are just a stronger people at the core and don't keep whining and making excuses, they just soldier on and take it like a man.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 09, 2010, 08:58:29 AM
Maybe fat alex can chime in on this one, his wife is an african
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Option D on November 09, 2010, 09:01:11 AM
Hell yeah, the beginning of the 20th century was worse for Asians then it was for Africans, the Asians are just a stronger people at the core and don't keep whining and making excuses, they just soldier on and take it like a man.


Really?
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 09:01:35 AM
Hell yeah, the beginning of the 20th century was worse for Asians then it was for Africans, the Asians are just a stronger people at the core and don't keep whining and making excuses, they just soldier on and take it like a man.

That's horeshit. The bulk of asians came recently, and they never forgot who their were or there culture. Black americans had 400 years of shit they don't even know where the fuck they came from.

I'm not saying chinese's are hard working and got direction, but its what you'd expect their chinese they have a 3000 year old culture, they were never conqured into imperialism like africans. They never skipped a beat.  
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 09, 2010, 09:01:43 AM
African's have been given 45 years to turn things around. Europeans had about 500 year start. So fuck off.

im not sure why you have the idea that europe left africa a desolate wasteland of destroyed cultures and mass slaughter, devoid of resources....this is not the case at all
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 09:03:27 AM
im not sure why you have the idea that europe left africa a desolate wasteland of destroyed cultures and mass slaughter, devoid of resources....this is not the case at all
Pardon?
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 09, 2010, 09:04:12 AM
Really?

I would say so, labor camps, inhumane treatment...at least by that time blacks weren't slaves anymore, the Asians were forced into crazy conditions and basically jailed.

http://www.calisphere.universityofcalifornia.edu/calcultures/ethnic_groups/subtopic2b.html

Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 09:07:00 AM
I would say so, labor camps, inhumane treatment...at least by that time blacks weren't slaves anymore, the Asians were forced into crazy conditions and basically jailed.

http://www.calisphere.universityofcalifornia.edu/calcultures/ethnic_groups/subtopic2b.html


you fail at number you ignorant shit. It was a touch and go thing. They came over in one generation and got fucked the next were fine. There no were near the uniformity that you find in black slavery, or jim crow laws.

Some asians had it bad some had it good, but they kept coming and each generation that came got better and better, and these were the best that china had to offer, Just look in the gold rush in california loads of chinese, some were fucked over others' were able to keep their traditions and culture.

Another thing I'd like to point out why aren't any african languages used in africa, why do the chinese have their own language if you can't sort this out I'm lost.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Wiggs on November 09, 2010, 09:07:39 AM
If I were in charge of an African country, it would be successful...I would end up dead though.

Of course it would depend on the country and based on that, whatever the countries main natural resources were, I'd exploit them to the highest degree...I'd make the country VERY business friendly to other countries...other countries as in not African countries..there would be a minimum wage, child labor laws, etc similar to the U.S...There would be education initiative and much of the money from my government would be towards educating these people and Westernizing them in business, education, and the way they treat women...Tribes can be tribes...on various reservations....it's fucked up but it needs to be done...Corruption is a major problem in many of these governments and those found guilty, of political corruption would be imprisoned and or executed depending on the severity of the crime...Those found guilty of rape castrated and imprisoned.

While I'd invite corporations to my country for business, there would be strict rules on how'd they operate...
It would be a long process but I'd have various programs to empower women since they are treated like utter shit...I wouldn't try to change gender roles just educate them, give them a voice so they realize they are people also...

On the aids issue, nothing is going to change that but education,...Oh and you'd only be allowed to have 2 children maximum (it really depends on the birthrate), and that's if it's proven you can support them, and that you are AIDS free...This wouldn't be a permanent thing...Obviously, I'd have a team of incredibly smart and well people monitoring trends, arising problems, etc...

I would promote entrepreneurship and small business....I'd have microloan programs...Inflation is a huge problem in many of these countries so a balance budget is a must and money wouldn't be PRINTED if it wasn't already in the system...

How I ran my military would depend on what the surrounding countries were.

Welfare system?  There would really not be a need for initially, because many of my projects would be towards modernizing the country and with outside corps coming in with their money there would be jobs...railroads being built, highways, etc...

College would be free for those that want to attend BUT they would have to serve in my government (aka government job) for a set period of time during or after the completion of college.

There would a social security like program set up and all though initially tough, through education, people would learn to invest their money, compound interest, etc, etc..

This is a rough start...and it would change alot...I'm sure initially if I wasn't assassinated, I wouldn't be welcome...but 30 years after I was in power, people would look back at what I'd done and be awestruck...There's much more I'd do but I think you get the point...

I see the potential problems and of course there are going to be things me and my team didn't think of and they will be delt with in a fair and humane manner.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 09:09:13 AM
If I were in charge of an African country, it would be successful...I would end up dead though.
Lol what would you? No joke just curious?
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 09, 2010, 09:11:09 AM
Pardon?
pardon what? the portugese and belgians were brutal but they only held a tiny portion of the continent; the british held by far the majority of the population of africa, and they ruled through Indirect means...they did not invade, kill/enslave everybody, destroy cities/architecture/history/etc...in fact the parts of africa controlled by the british were LARGELY BETTER OFF THEN than they are now. the brits maintained order and created tons of infrastructure.

had a professor from Zambia, he even said that most of the roads and infrastructure they use TODAY was shit that the BRITISH PUT THERE LMAO  
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 09:16:51 AM
pardon what? the portugese and belgians were brutal but they only held a tiny portion of the continent; the british held by far the majority of the population of africa, and they ruled through Indirect means...they did not invade, kill/enslave everybody, destroy cities/architecture/history/etc...in fact the parts of africa controlled by the british were LARGELY BETTER OFF THEN than they are now. the brits maintained order and created tons of infrastructure.

had a professor from Zambia, he even said that most of the roads and infrastructure they use TODAY was shit that the BRITISH PUT THERE LMAO 
The british get order, by erasing cultural barriers that existed for centuries, eroded the native languages, essential took control and didn't give them the ability to learn how to lead their own lives. 
Now africa suffers major inbalances in power tradition everything they have is a mess. (imagine trying to convert the renassiance american/french revolution, protestant reformation,multiple wars(WW2,WW1 and the list goes on, celtic revival, journeys into fascism(nazi's), journey into communism(soviet union) all in a 45 year period. Not to mention they still haven't even figured out which languages to speak(english came about after german/french invasions). You can't expect these people to go through all of that since 1965.

And NO you can't just read about this shit from european text books, a people and culture need to live through this shit to get it.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 09, 2010, 09:20:04 AM
you fail at number you ignorant shit. It was a touch and go thing. They came over in one generation and got fucked the next were fine. There no were near the uniformity that you find in black slavery, or jim crow laws.

Some asians had it bad some had it good, but they kept coming and each generation that came got better and better, and these were the best that china had to offer, Just look in the gold rush in california loads of chinese, some were fucked over others' were able to keep their traditions and culture.

Another thing I'd like to point out why aren't any african languages used in africa, why do the chinese have their own language if you can't sort this out I'm lost.
Asian immigrants work, want to work, create their own work
Africans sponge, take, enjoy benefitting from our too-relaxed system


When I was young, before the africans came, we were thought in school that africa had a lot of starving people and neded help
Now that is true but its not ethiopians or sudanese coming here, its obese sponging nigerians
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 09:21:40 AM
Asian immigrants work, want to work, create their own work
Africans sponge, take, enjoy benefitting from our too-relaxed system


When I was young, before the africans came, we were thought in school that africa had a lot of starving people and neded help
Now that is true but its not ethiopians or sudanese coming here, its obese sponging nigerians
And how do you get out of china? Do you even know?

FYI south asians do the same shit as africans. Your confusing chinese with asians.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 09, 2010, 09:22:16 AM
you fail at number you ignorant shit. It was a touch and go thing. They came over in one generation and got fucked the next were fine. There no were near the uniformity that you find in black slavery, or jim crow laws.

Some asians had it bad some had it good, but they kept coming and each generation that came got better and better, and these were the best that china had to offer, Just look in the gold rush in california loads of chinese, some were fucked over others' were able to keep their traditions and culture.

Another thing I'd like to point out why aren't any african languages used in africa, why do the chinese have their own language if you can't sort this out I'm lost.

This is called = PERSEVERANCE it's a great quality/trait to posses.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 09:23:21 AM
This is called = PERSEVERANCE it's a great quality/trait to posses.
Yes but it took centuries to develope. The chinese have been working in a organized soceity for 2000 years.Look into their systems of confusionism, taoism. They took 2000 years to get where there at. And they sure as hell ain't perfect. They work hard but act like fucking drones, all the humanity has been wiped out of them, there obsessed with being hard working and that it's.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 09, 2010, 09:23:53 AM
you fail at number you ignorant shit. It was a touch and go thing. They came over in one generation and got fucked the next were fine. There no were near the uniformity that you find in black slavery, or jim crow laws.

Some asians had it bad some had it good, but they kept coming and each generation that came got better and better, and these were the best that china had to offer, Just look in the gold rush in california loads of chinese, some were fucked over others' were able to keep their traditions and culture.

Another thing I'd like to point out why aren't any african languages used in africa, why do the chinese have their own language if you can't sort this out I'm lost.

1. they did not come over in 'just one generation'
2. there certainly was the same uniformity of oppression through the enactment of various anti-chinese policies
3. it was FAR from 'the best china had to offer'...haha where do you get this shit? the ones that came over were the poor hordes who couldnt make it in china so they came to america in the hopes of finding work so they could support their families back in china

YOU FAIL AT HISTORY BRO
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 09, 2010, 09:24:46 AM
Germany was fucked after WW2, now its on top of the world economically and technically
Why? No excuses and european leaders

Africa is fucked since the europeans left it
Africans do not have the brainpower to govern a country

Oh, and USA president is an african, I feel you are going to keep going downhill til toy get 'whitey' back at the helm
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Option D on November 09, 2010, 09:26:45 AM
I would say so, labor camps, inhumane treatment...at least by that time blacks weren't slaves anymore, the Asians were forced into crazy conditions and basically jailed.

http://www.calisphere.universityofcalifornia.edu/calcultures/ethnic_groups/subtopic2b.html



Kind of like blacks at turn of century. Dude. Share cropping, instituional (meaning it was law) injustice (Jim Crow) specifically made for blacks
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 09, 2010, 09:27:19 AM
And how do you get out of china? Do you even know?

FYI south asians do the same shit as africans. Your confusing chinese with asians.
South asians work here
They arent entitled to benefits cos they arent 'asylum seekers'
Somehow nigerians are..seeking asylum from what I wonder?
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 09:27:38 AM
Germany was fucked after WW2, now its on top of the world economically and technically
Why? No excuses and european leaders

Germany wasn't fucked war torn yes but the american's pretty much funded reconstruction. The germans had a 500 year history that started from luther and the reformation. This shit is still relavant 500 years later as prostestant europe has a much stronger work ethic, than catholic's different values etc.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 09, 2010, 09:28:12 AM
Yes but it took centuries to develope. The chinese have been working in a organized soceity for 2000 years.Look into their systems of confusionism, taoism. They took 2000 years to get where there at. And they sure as hell ain't perfect. They work hard but act like fucking drones, all the humanity has been wiped out of them, there obsessed with being hard working and that it's.

So what does that say about all of Africa?!! the so called 'cradle of civilization' where it's all supposed to have started... considering this is where scientists say civilization began, they would have had quite the head start, no? instead what is Africa?! a vast wasteland full of simpleton's living in mud huts hurling spears at each other, dancing around fires ritualistically and painting their faces..

wow..in a meager few thousand years caucasians (and asians) have managed to split the atom, send a man to the moon and create nuclear power... fail much !?!??!
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 09:28:38 AM
South asians work here
They arent entitled to benefits cos they arent 'asylum seekers'
Somehow nigerians are..seeking asylum from what I wonder?
Go meet some burmese refugee's and I might agree with you. Refugees are fucking shit can't fucking stand them no arguement their.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 09, 2010, 09:29:34 AM
Germany was fucked after WW2, now its on top of the world economically and technically
Why? No excuses and european leaders

Africa is fucked since the europeans left it
Africans do not have the brainpower to govern a country

Oh, and USA president is an african, I feel you are going to keep going downhill til toy get 'whitey' back at the helm

germany was left in complete economic RUIN after WW1..and within 20 years they were the most powerful, advanced nation on earth.

Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 09, 2010, 09:30:06 AM
Germany wasn't fucked war torn yes but the american's pretty much funded reconstruction. The germans had a 500 year history that started from luther and the reformation. This shit is still relavant 500 years later as prostestant europe has a much stronger work ethic, than catholic's different values etc.
And what of africans work ethic?
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 09:30:32 AM
So what does that say about all of Africa?!! the so called 'cradle of civilization' where it's all supposed to have started... considering this is where scientists say civilization began, they would have had quite the head start, no? instead what is Africa?! a vast wasteland full of simpleton's living in mud huts hurling spears at each other, dancing around fires ritualistically and painting their faces..

Africa ain't the cradle of civilization you ignorant shit Iraq and the middle east gets credit for that. There the cradle of people. They never into civlization status because africa has shit land. It's the reason europeans never went their. Except south africa and the whites were sure to get the best land.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 09, 2010, 09:30:54 AM
So what does that say about all of Africa?!! the so called 'cradle of civilization' where it's all supposed to have started... considering this is where scientists say civilization began, they would have had quite the head start, no? instead what is Africa?! a vast wasteland full of simpleton's living in mud huts hurling spears at each other, dancing around fires ritualistically and painting their faces..

wow..in a meager few thousand years caucasians (and asians) have managed to split the atom, send a man to the moon and create nuclear power... fail much !?!??!

hahahah  ;D
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 09:32:33 AM
And what of africans work ethic?
Give em 500 years to sort that out and we'll see what happens. There culture is fucked I'm first to admit it. But they need more than 2 or 3 generations to sort that shit out. You fucks knew anything about history and culture and you'd know that. Europe took forever to get where it is now. And it wasn't a clean process a hell of a lot of mistakes (even now with imigration).
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: leadhead on November 09, 2010, 09:33:54 AM
And what of africans work ethic?

Simple. Alot of them don't have any work ethic. It's just as bad in America. We should have sent them on their way back over to Africa when we didn't need them to pick cotton in the South anymore :-\ (no racist). Some have a work ethic but they also were raised correctly, which I think entails alot of Africans problems.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 09, 2010, 09:34:15 AM
Give em 500 years to sort that out and we'll see what happens. There culture is fucked I'm first to admit it. But they need more than 2 or 3 generations to sort that shit out. You fucks knew anything about history and culture and you'd know that. Europe took forever to get where it is now. And it wasn't a clean process a hell of a lot of mistakes (even now with imigration).
Give them 500years????
Hahahahaha, so we keep them in benefits for 500years before they think 'shit, it wouldnt be a bad idea to get a job'
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 09:35:33 AM
Give them 500years????
Hahahahaha, so we keep them in benefits for 500years before they think 'shit, it wouldnt be a bad idea to get a job'

What benefits I was the first in the thread to condem immigrants. I think it's a horrible fucking system their's no need for it and just prooves that western states can't function.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 09, 2010, 09:38:55 AM
Give em 500 years to sort that out and we'll see what happens. There culture is fucked I'm first to admit it. But they need more than 2 or 3 generations to sort that shit out. You fucks knew anything about history and culture and you'd know that. Europe took forever to get where it is now. And it wasn't a clean process a hell of a lot of mistakes (even now with imigration).

The fact that you can't debate without resorting to petty name calling kind of sums up everything... good luck with grade 9
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Stark on November 09, 2010, 09:39:12 AM
and 37% of them are Nigerians.

And THEY CANNOT FUCKING DRIVE !!!! its ridicules to the extreme, they always drive some FUCKED up Toyota corolla and they never user indication dont
know how to us roundabount etc etc.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 09:40:20 AM
The fact that you can't debate without resorting to petty name calling kind of sums up everything... good luck with grade 9

Lol sorry didn't realize you were so sensitive. I can be polite if you were offended. However I think we can both look paste my colourful language we can clearly see I know my shit.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: lovemonkey on November 09, 2010, 09:41:25 AM
I sometimes wonder if G_thang and IwishIsukkedLundgrenscau lk are the same person.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 09, 2010, 09:41:40 AM
Give em 500 years to sort that out and we'll see what happens. There culture is fucked I'm first to admit it. But they need more than 2 or 3 generations to sort that shit out. You fucks knew anything about history and culture and you'd know that. Europe took forever to get where it is now. And it wasn't a clean process a hell of a lot of mistakes (even now with imigration).

problem is, is that virtually every other people/region on earth has had periods of advanced, enlightened civilization; the middle east is shit now, but during the dark ages they were world leaders of civilization and knowledge. china/japan/south asia have had periods where they were 3rd world backwaters, but also extensive period where they were the pinnacle of mankind. europe rose, then fell during the dark ages, then rose again, now is declining...even south america had period of highly advanced civilizations and architecture that boggles the mind to this day.
thing is...africa...a vast, enormous continent..has NEVER had a period where any of its people had even risen above iron age- level status. thats gotta say something.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 09:43:03 AM
and 37% of them are Nigerians.

And THEY CANNOT FUCKING DRIVE !!!! its ridicules to the extreme, they always drive some FUCKED up Toyota corolla and they never user indication dont
know how to us roundabount etc etc.
The hard working chinese seem to suck at it as well. It's because they never grew up in a car culture. The worst part is they don't even know how bad they are. As everyone they know can't drive for shit either. Again westerners took 50 years from driving 5 ton death traps to get where we are now. They simply don't have our concept of safe driving etc. Driving is a small part of life but it's an obvious example of why culture mixing don't work.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 09, 2010, 09:45:19 AM
problem is, is that virtually every other people/region on earth has had periods of advanced, enlightened civilization; the middle east is shit now, but during the dark ages they were world leaders of civilization and knowledge. china/japan/south asia have had periods where they were 3rd world backwaters, but also extensive period where they were the pinnacle of mankind. europe rose, then fell during the dark ages, then rose again, now is declining...even south america had period of highly advanced civilizations and architecture that boggles the mind to this day.
thing is...africa...a vast, enormous continent..has NEVER had a period where any of its people had even risen above iron age- level status. thats gotta say something.
They invented Aids
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Option D on November 09, 2010, 09:45:26 AM
problem is, is that virtually every other people/region on earth has had periods of advanced, enlightened civilization; the middle east is shit now, but during the dark ages they were world leaders of civilization and knowledge. china/japan/south asia have had periods where they were 3rd world backwaters, but also extensive period where they were the pinnacle of mankind. europe rose, then fell during the dark ages, then rose again, now is declining...even south america had period of highly advanced civilizations and architecture that boggles the mind to this day.
thing is...africa...a vast, enormous continent..has NEVER had a period where any of its people had even risen above iron age- level status. thats gotta say something.
That blacks are Genetically inferoir to all...So says Ben Carson and Vivian Thomas
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 09, 2010, 09:47:41 AM
That blacks are Genetically inferoir to all...So says Ben Carson and Vivian Thomas
QFT man
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 09:49:52 AM
problem is, is that virtually every other people/region on earth has had periods of advanced, enlightened civilization; the middle east is shit now, but during the dark ages they were world leaders of civilization and knowledge. china/japan/south asia have had periods where they were 3rd world backwaters, but also extensive period where they were the pinnacle of mankind. europe rose, then fell during the dark ages, then rose again, now is declining...even south america had period of highly advanced civilizations and architecture that boggles the mind to this day.
thing is...africa...a vast, enormous continent..has NEVER had a period where any of its people had even risen above iron age- level status. thats gotta say something.
First off excluding rome(it was mediterean based) even egypt,iraq and algeria were part of it. Europe never really got civlized until around the 1200's. And it took centuries to get it off the ground. The only thing it ever had going for it was trade. It's geography with loads of rivers and sea's made it ideal for trade, and competition. Europe was built on trade somethign only it's geography and position in the world would be good for.

Asia was pretty stable. They appear to have fallen to shit because the never had the industrial revolution. Europe got in the way of letting it spread properly. But now that European communism has got out of the way of india and china things are going back to where it should be.


African geography is shit, you simply don't know it if there's even a debate. Aside from south africa and the northern coast(mediterean) there econmies are shit. The land is mostly shit, there's not a lot of rivers etc. And it's fucking huge. You can't even grow rice in most of the continent, and roads din't exist until 100 years ago and recent politics got in the way.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Option D on November 09, 2010, 09:52:02 AM
QFT man

so say ben carson and vivian thomas...

by the way what is your educational background. Like what was your major. Not a shot, but  want to know my playing field before i get into this
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 09:58:47 AM
so say ben carson and vivian thomas...

by the way what is your educational background. Like what was your major. Not a shot, but  want to know my playing field before i get into this
I doubt your pointing to me, but I've studied anthroplogy, economics, history, political science,before going into engineering/physics stream. The only reason I'm saying this is because I've gotten about 7-8 different view points on the same subject, coming at it from any one angle won't give you a full view of the situation as the shit's all related.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Jaime on November 09, 2010, 10:02:13 AM
Ireland survived for thousands of years with Irish people in the country...I'm sure the motherland can survive some Africano's.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 10:03:25 AM
Ireland survived for thousands of years with Irish people in the country...I'm sure the motherland can survive some Africano's.
Technically speaking the majority left or died but sure I agree :D
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Wiggs on November 09, 2010, 10:04:52 AM
Of course it would depend on the country and based on that, whatever the country's main natural resources were, I'd exploit them to the highest degree...I'd make the country VERY business friendly to other countries...other countries as in not African countries..there would be a minimum wage, child labor laws, etc similar to the U.S...There would be education initiative and much of the money from my government would be towards educating these people and Westernizing them in business, education, and the way they treat women...Tribes can be tribes...on various reservations....it's fucked up but it needs to be done...Corruption is a major problem in many of these governments and those found guilty, of political corruption would be imprisoned and or executed depending on the severity of the crime...Those found guilty of rape castrated and imprisoned.

While I'd invite corporations to my country for business, there would be strict rules on how'd they operate...
It would be a long process but I'd have various programs to empower women since they are treated like utter shit...I wouldn't try to change gender roles just educate them, give them a voice so they realize they are people also...

On the aids issue, nothing is going to change that but education,...Oh and you'd only be allowed to have 2 children maximum (it really depends on the birthrate), and that's if it's proven you can support them, and that you are AIDS free...This wouldn't be a permanent thing...Obviously, I'd have a team of incredibly smart and well paid people monitoring trends, arising problems, etc...

I would promote entrepreneurship and small business....I'd have microloan programs...Inflation is a huge problem in many of these countries so a balance budget is a must and money wouldn't be PRINTED if it wasn't already in the system...

How I ran my military would depend on what the surrounding countries were.

Welfare system?  There would really not be a need for initially, because many of my projects would be towards modernizing the country and with outside corps coming in with their money there would be jobs...railroads being built, highways, etc...

College would be free for those that want to attend BUT they would have to serve in my government in some capicty for a set period of time during or after the completion of college.

There would a social security like program set up and all though initially tough, through education, people would learn to invest their money, compound interest, etc, etc..

This is a rough start...and it would change alot...I'm sure initially if I wasn't assassinated, I wouldn't be welcome...but 30 years after I was in power, people would look back at what I'd done and be awestruck...There's much more I'd do but I think you get the point...

I see the potential problems and of course there are going to be things me and my team didn't think of and they will be delt with in a fair and humane manner.

In essence I'm taking everything I learned that works from good ol' U.S.A. and my time spent in Europe and implement it there...There's nothing wrong with that. 8)
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: mass 04 on November 09, 2010, 10:06:37 AM
Most of the Africans(from the continent) I have met have been hard working and polite.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 09, 2010, 10:10:07 AM
Most of the Africans(from the continent) I have met have been hard working and polite.

I agree, but just don't try to let them haggle with you on prices......ouch.....alm ost as bad as Paki's.......  I had a paki guy tell me one time that he had to ask for a discount or they would throw him out....hahaha....
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Option D on November 09, 2010, 10:21:13 AM
I doubt your pointing to me, but I've studied anthroplogy, economics, history, political science,before going into engineering/physics stream. The only reason I'm saying this is because I've gotten about 7-8 different view points on the same subject, coming at it from any one angle won't give you a full view of the situation as the shit's all related.

Na okami...i wanted to know his education before we sparred
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 10:22:38 AM
Of course it would depend on the country and based on that, whatever the country's main natural resources were, I'd exploit them to the highest degree...I'd make the country VERY business friendly to other countries...other countries as in not African countries..there would be a minimum wage, child labor laws, etc similar to the U.S...There would be education initiative and much of the money from my government would be towards educating these people and Westernizing them in business, education, and the way they treat women...Tribes can be tribes...on various reservations....it's fucked up but it needs to be done...Corruption is a major problem in many of these governments and those found guilty, of political corruption would be imprisoned and or executed depending on the severity of the crime...Those found guilty of rape castrated and imprisoned.

While I'd invite corporations to my country for business, there would be strict rules on how'd they operate...
It would be a long process but I'd have various programs to empower women since they are treated like utter shit...I wouldn't try to change gender roles just educate them, give them a voice so they realize they are people also...

On the aids issue, nothing is going to change that but education,...Oh and you'd only be allowed to have 2 children maximum (it really depends on the birthrate), and that's if it's proven you can support them, and that you are AIDS free...This wouldn't be a permanent thing...Obviously, I'd have a team of incredibly smart and well paid people monitoring trends, arising problems, etc...

I would promote entrepreneurship and small business....I'd have microloan programs...Inflation is a huge problem in many of these countries so a balance budget is a must and money wouldn't be PRINTED if it wasn't already in the system...

How I ran my military would depend on what the surrounding countries were.

Welfare system?  There would really not be a need for initially, because many of my projects would be towards modernizing the country and with outside corps coming in with their money there would be jobs...railroads being built, highways, etc...

College would be free for those that want to attend BUT they would have to serve in my government in some capicty for a set period of time during or after the completion of college.

There would a social security like program set up and all though initially tough, through education, people would learn to invest their money, compound interest, etc, etc..

This is a rough start...and it would change alot...I'm sure initially if I wasn't assassinated, I wouldn't be welcome...but 30 years after I was in power, people would look back at what I'd done and be awestruck...There's much more I'd do but I think you get the point...

I see the potential problems and of course there are going to be things me and my team didn't think of and they will be delt with in a fair and humane manner.

In essence I'm taking everything I learned that works from good ol' U.S.A. and my time spent in Europe and implement it there...There's nothing wrong with that. 8)
Meh it's what everyone wants but it's not pratical too ideal and not gonna happen unless your a dictator.

Mine is simple. Stop coruption by having anti coruption culture spread about through whatever country. An obsessive education system that educates africans on their value of their culture, and how to adapt to industrial life. It would basically be the african equivalant to western white guilt and multiculturalism.

Have every 5 year old in the country understand why it's wrong to take bends the rules (i.e. invite family to your work, tolerate coruption, have coruption panic etc.) Ironically even americans could benefit from this shit.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Wiggs on November 09, 2010, 10:26:48 AM
Meh it's what everyone wants but it's not pratical too ideal and not gonna happen unless your a dictator.

Mine is simple. Stop coruption by having anti coruption culture spread about through whatever country. An obsessive education system that educates africans on their value of their culture, and how to adapt to industrial life. It would basically be the african equivalant to western white guilt and multiculturalism.

Have every 5 year old in the country understand why it's wrong to take bends the rules (i.e. invite family to your work, tolerate coruption, have coruption panic etc.) Ironically even americans could benefit from this shit.

You're actually correct...I would have to run it like a dictator initially but it would all be set up to eventually be ran like a democracy over a period of years and I would become a figurehead eventually...I think it's very practical though idealistic.
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Lundgren on November 09, 2010, 10:28:37 AM
You're actually correct...I would have to run it like a dictator initially but it would all be set up to eventually be ran like a democracy over a period of years and I would become a figurehead eventually...I think it's very practical though idealistic.
How would you find time for smoking weed, cheating on your wife, and posting on here :D
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Wiggs on November 09, 2010, 10:47:59 AM
How would you find time for smoking weed, cheating on your wife, and posting on here :D


I quit all those but the last one...
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 09, 2010, 10:54:10 AM
Meh it's what everyone wants but it's not pratical too ideal and not gonna happen unless your a dictator.

Mine is simple. Stop coruption by having anti coruption culture spread about through whatever country. An obsessive education system that educates africans on their value of their culture, and how to adapt to industrial life. It would basically be the african equivalant to western white guilt and multiculturalism.

Have every 5 year old in the country understand why it's wrong to take bends the rules (i.e. invite family to your work, tolerate coruption, have coruption panic etc.) Ironically even americans could benefit from this shit.

Whoa whoa whoa...white guilt?!? what white guilt!?!? why should we feel guilty for being the caretakers and progenitors of the world!?!.. someone's gotta keep this machine running..it's like shitty 3rd world countries blaming the USA for policing the world and keeping scumbags in check...shit, someone's gotta do it, I don't see any others volunteering for the job..look at how much white people have done FOR africa, holy shit look at how many organizations are on tv every day showing starving african kids that we have to help because it's supposedly the right thing to do, how many organizations like unicef and red cross does it take before people take responsibilities for their actions and get their shit together?!?!
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Bobby on November 09, 2010, 02:38:26 PM
Whoa whoa whoa...white guilt?!? what white guilt!?!? why should we feel guilty for being the caretakers and progenitors of the world!?!.. someone's gotta keep this machine running..it's like shitty 3rd world countries blaming the USA for policing the world and keeping scumbags in check...shit, someone's gotta do it, I don't see any others volunteering for the job..look at how much white people have done FOR africa, holy shit look at how many organizations are on tv every day showing starving african kids that we have to help because it's supposedly the right thing to do, how many organizations like unicef and red cross does it take before people take responsibilities for their actions and get their shit together?!?!

Hmm well more of them certainly doesn't help, it seems they see it like "we don't need to do anything, others will take care of it"
Title: Re: Irelands African problems
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 09, 2010, 09:54:50 PM
Hmm well more of them certainly doesn't help, it seems they see it like "we don't need to do anything, others will take care of it"

Agreed, there's currently at least about 30-40 separate organizations trying to send aid/money/food to africa, this 2 minute youtube video sums everything up about africa.