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Title: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Jake_W on November 12, 2010, 07:57:07 AM
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Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Stark on November 12, 2010, 07:57:40 AM
Midget
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 12, 2010, 08:04:37 AM
Looks crazy but curling 10lbs with both arms is just kinda sad..
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Post by: Tito24 on November 12, 2010, 08:08:19 AM
maybe he accidently picked up the wrong bar?
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: nukkaready on November 12, 2010, 08:11:16 AM
Maybe he only needed 10lbs to build a physique like that... ;D
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Stark on November 12, 2010, 08:35:00 AM
Looks crazy but curling 10lbs with both arms is just kinda sad..


ITS ALWAYS BOUT THE INTENSITY DUDE!!!
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Howard on November 12, 2010, 08:37:03 AM
ITS ALWAYS BOUT THE INTENSITY DUDE!!!
Bingo! Zane is my all time favorite Mr O. I saw him win in person at the 1979 Olympia in Columbus .
He looked pretty BIG on the stage.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: crownshep on November 12, 2010, 08:40:49 AM
Perfect
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: French on November 12, 2010, 09:45:45 AM
 8) 8) 8)

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Post by: wes on November 12, 2010, 09:47:47 AM
I never saw a bad pic of Zane.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: clued-up on November 12, 2010, 09:50:10 AM
Looks crazy but curling 10lbs with both arms is just kinda sad..


Heavy weight means jack shit in bodybuilding.   
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 12, 2010, 10:02:13 AM
A lot of hormones running through those viens
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Jake_W on November 12, 2010, 10:41:37 AM
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Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Wiggs on November 12, 2010, 10:49:47 AM
Perfect fitness physique.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Jake_W on November 12, 2010, 10:54:40 AM
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Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Jake_W on November 12, 2010, 10:57:10 AM
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Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Jake_W on November 12, 2010, 11:02:57 AM
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Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: tallgerman on November 12, 2010, 11:06:57 AM
holy shit he looks tiny there

legs way too big
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: JasonH on November 12, 2010, 11:23:49 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=355464.0;attach=390898;image)

Should get Kai to recreate that pose.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Tito24 on November 12, 2010, 11:40:15 AM
looks great although with his height its nothing impressive on
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Cleanest Natural on November 12, 2010, 11:43:31 AM
Listen to these fags such as Capt Equipiss

Frank Zane, would weigh 50 lbs less than him, and side to side in real life Frank would LOOK 50 lbs MORE than this roided redneck lol

brutal small penis syndrom ragging one one of the best physiques gracing the face of the Earth EVER
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: dj181 on November 12, 2010, 11:53:59 AM
How much do u think he weighed in that curl shot? I say 190 or so, which was his comp weight in the 70s. By da way, dat is da True Adonis right there fellas :-D
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Jaime on November 12, 2010, 12:02:51 PM
Great physique, his structure is a little out with his height, but the lean mass he carried is ideal and he looked very aesthetic.

Most gymrats probably cycle more than he did and 99% of them look like shit.

He carried on the Reeves tradition. Balance, lines and propotion over mass.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: French on November 12, 2010, 01:20:15 PM

His perfect structure and shape was enough to beat monster guys like Bertil Fox.
Fox could beat any NPC championship and as Zane > Fox --> Zane could easily won all NPC title until nowadays.

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Post by: The_Punisher on November 12, 2010, 01:30:34 PM
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shit, he looks like a young sylvester stallone here
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Meso_z on November 12, 2010, 01:36:27 PM
all natural  ::)
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: _bruce_ on November 12, 2010, 01:58:38 PM

shit, he looks like a young sylvester stallone here

+1
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: pellius on November 12, 2010, 02:04:30 PM
Hope I'm not sounding naive but this is a no HGH physique, right? I just remember gh15 mentioning that Arnold couldn't break 240 lbs because HGH wasn't widely available and his build is on hormones only. Zane was I think 190 lbs. Good enough for me. No need to be 275 lbs when you can't walk up a fight of stairs without sucking wind.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: affeman on November 12, 2010, 02:06:34 PM
His perfect structure and shape was enough to beat monster guys like Bertil Fox.
Fox could beat any NPC championship and as Zane > Fox --> Zane could easily won all NPC title until nowadays.

So according to you Zane would beat for example a Cedric McMillain outweighing him by 60 pds? :D

(http://maxximum-portal.com/forum/richedit/upload/2kd80f55f808.jpg)
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: johnny1 on November 12, 2010, 03:00:45 PM
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Thats a Great rare pic of Zane his conditioning was 9/10 spot on which he needed to beat the bigger more massive bbers back in his day.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Howard on November 12, 2010, 03:10:48 PM
Great physique, his structure is a little out with his height, but the lean mass he carried is ideal and he looked very aesthetic.

Most gymrats probably cycle more than he did and 99% of them look like shit.

He carried on the Reeves tradition. Balance, lines and propotion over mass.
He beat Arnold in the 1969 Universe and won the O three times in a row.
Say whatever shit you want, the man's BODYBUILING contest record is hall of fame worthy.
He beat a much more massive Mentzer in 1979 and deserved the win.
I am NOT saying the modern pro isn't great as well. A guy like Jay or Ronnie is great but in a different way at different time and place.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: erics on November 12, 2010, 03:26:03 PM
If you look at bodybuilding as one of the artistic sports, then it is very, very easy to see why Frank Zane is one of the greatest bodybuilders ever.

If you look at bodybuilding as just muscle mass, then Zane is one of the worst bodybuilders ever.

Watch Zane's posing routines. He is one of the very few guys who rarely repeat the same pose twice in a routine. What's more, he looks great in almost every single pose he does. Posing has degenerated to such an extent that bodybuilders these days rarely do more than the mandatories and most muscular variations. The most muscular is one of the few poses that most bodybuilders can do that doesn't make them look bad. Most other poses highlight their imbalances and lack of aesthetic appeal.

It's a shame then that many people cannot recognise the value of such details.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 12, 2010, 03:29:01 PM
Listen to these fags such as Capt Equipiss

Frank Zane, would weigh 50 lbs less than him, and side to side in real life Frank would LOOK 50 lbs MORE than this roided redneck lol

brutal small penis syndrom ragging one one of the best physiques gracing the face of the Earth EVER

Where am I ragging on him you piss poor peasant ?!!? I made a joke about the weight, he looks insane, STFU

fucking 130lb gypsy twink
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: CT_Muscle on November 12, 2010, 03:44:50 PM
I never saw a badbig pic of Zane.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 12, 2010, 03:51:48 PM
Zane was so bad that he won the Olympia three times against bigger bodybuilders.  Back in the day no one wanted to stand next to him because he made the mass monsters look like crap.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: kevcat on November 12, 2010, 04:01:22 PM
looks great although with his height its nothing impressive on

STFU, theres literally no one on this board who has a physique that good probably, and that was 30 years ago  ;) unless youve photos to prove it?
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: French on November 12, 2010, 04:16:01 PM
His legs beat the best legs (Tom) in history many times.
No  problem to beat a big but no refined Cedric
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: dj181 on November 12, 2010, 04:21:44 PM
Back in the day, Zane said something like Arnold has nothing below the chest, to which Arnold replied Zane has no body, or something to that effect.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Jake_W on November 12, 2010, 04:32:39 PM
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Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on November 12, 2010, 08:27:40 PM
So according to you Zane would beat for example a Cedric McMillain outweighing him by 60 pds? :D

(http://maxximum-portal.com/forum/richedit/upload/2kd80f55f808.jpg)

Hi Cedric.

THE BEEF
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Jaime on November 13, 2010, 02:10:07 AM
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Nubret and Zane owning proceedings there.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Cleanest Natural on November 13, 2010, 04:58:18 AM
Where am I ragging on him you piss poor peasant ?!!? I made a joke about the weight, he looks insane, STFU

fucking 130lb gypsy twink

come to think of it ...I will make you my bitch..let alone Frank

BTW : post a current pic instead of the one when you juiced heavily in your mom's basement you big dumb redneck :)


Now let us compare the big boned dumb redneck to Frank

 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=355486.0;attach=390976;image)(http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/attachments/professional-muscle-forum/39862-interview-frank-zane-excerpt-frankzanemra.jpg)
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 13, 2010, 05:28:55 AM
Awww.. here we go again, why don't you go start another thread about how the Queen of England is an 8 foot reptilian alien from the Zuuriba star system you 130lb gypsy nutbar, you have the muscle mass of a starving ethiopian
you must be crushed because I made a joke about the weights your mancrush uses.

Seriously dude, stop wasting threads and server space with your idiocy, you're just going to get owned into oblivion for 15 pages and disappear for 2 months like the last time anyway..

You know you've made it on the internet when pics of you are made into failure warnings and spread around other boards, hahahaha
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Cleanest Natural on November 13, 2010, 06:02:33 AM
brutal meltdown

I obviously touched a sore point :)

I don't see you posting my pics where I dwarf you or the vids where I outlift you by 100 lbs on every friggin lift hahahaha

you dumb roided big boned redneck
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 13, 2010, 06:04:49 AM
brutal meltdown

I obviously touched a sore point :)

I don't see you posting my pics where I dwarf you or the vids where I outlift you by 100 lbs on every friggin lift hahahaha

you dumb roided big boned redneck

That's because they don't exist.

tell me again what university you studied at gypsy ? was there even an elementary school in your village ?
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Cleanest Natural on November 13, 2010, 06:42:44 AM
That's because they don't exist.

tell me again what university you studied at gypsy ? was there even an elementary school in your village ?

3rd meltie .. u dabble in cock?
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 13, 2010, 06:49:09 AM
3rd meltie .. u dabble in cock?

Answer the question princess, otherwise we'll all assume you have a grade 8 education.

I mean half your country is iliterate so it wouldn't surprise me.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: YngiweRhoads on November 13, 2010, 06:56:06 AM
Good physique Cap but what's with the hair dude?

You're a guitar player man, grow that shit.

(http://www.earache.com/bands/carcass/news_archive/carcass/Carcass03.jpg)
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 13, 2010, 07:01:59 AM
Good physique Cap but what's with the hair dude?

You're a guitar player man, grow that shit.

(http://www.earache.com/bands/carcass/news_archive/carcass/Carcass03.jpg)

LOL, I never liked long hair.. had it long until grade 10 or so, then I've always kept it short
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: YngiweRhoads on November 13, 2010, 07:05:14 AM
LOL, I never liked long hair.. had it long until grade 10 or so, then I've always kept it short


Blasphemy.


I will say that having hair that takes 2 hours to dry is a bitch, especially in a Canadian winter.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 13, 2010, 07:38:22 AM
Blasphemy.


I will say that having hair that takes 2 hours to dry is a bitch, especially in a Canadian winter.

That's the problem, plus I played a bunch of sports in high school so it would just get sticky and nasty with sweat!
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Oldschool Flip on November 13, 2010, 08:02:40 AM
Classic physique from the "golden years" of bodybuilding. Times change and so does the perception of what bodybuilding should be. I do think that from the late 70's to the late 80's, bodybuilding seemed much more accepted from mainstream America than it does now. I would rather have a physique like Zane's over today's competitor's because in regular clothes Zane looks like a fit guy.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Reeves on November 13, 2010, 09:23:46 AM
Midget

Actually, he was about 5' 8" to5' 9" when I met him.  Of course he was much younger than now and we all shrink with age.  No where near a midget unless you are really tall, e.g., 7 feet and more.  A great physique champion who has done more in his lifetime than the majority of us.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Reeves on November 13, 2010, 09:31:05 AM

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=355464.0;attach=390898;image)

This is what a well built man looks like.  On top of that, Zane is intelligent (highly educated), articulate, married to a woman of great physical and spiritual beauty for many, many years and is a gentleman.  His interests have always varied far outside just bodybuilding, which makes him a complete man.  Kinda like the late Steve Reeves.

Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Purge_WTF on November 13, 2010, 09:34:05 AM
Good physique Cap but what's with the hair dude?

You're a guitar player man, grow that shit.

(http://www.earache.com/bands/carcass/news_archive/carcass/Carcass03.jpg)

  Ah, good ol' Carcass. One of the best metal bands ever.

  And Zane can and will beat any of you vulvas any day.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: caseyviator on November 15, 2010, 11:47:13 AM
believe it or not bodybuilding is 10000 more times excepted by the mainstream NOW than in the late 70s n 80s anyone who was really into it back then knows that...i did my sophomore term paper on arnold in 1982 at the time mind you i went to a public school the 2nd biggest one in toledo ohio, roy c start high school. i was 1 of only 2 people into powerlifting and bodybuilding...my teacher and noone else in the class even knew who arnold was.  we all had to read them out loud and show pics of who ur paper was about....noone had a clue who he was.  i will say everyone was amazed by him and i answered questions on it for about 20 mins ......they really had mixed feelings and none of the girls admitted to liking his look...

now arnold is king of the country. 
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 15, 2010, 11:55:14 AM
believe it or not bodybuilding is 10000 more times excepted by the mainstream NOW than in the late 70s n 80s anyone who was really into it back then knows that...i did my sophomore term paper on arnold in 1982 at the time mind you i went to a public school the 2nd biggest one in toledo ohio, roy c start high school. i was 1 of only 2 people into powerlifting and bodybuilding...my teacher and noone else in the class even knew who arnold was.  we all had to read them out loud and show pics of who ur paper was about....noone had a clue who he was.  i will say everyone was amazed by him and i answered questions on it for about 20 mins ......they really had mixed feelings and none of the girls admitted to liking his look...

now arnold is king of the country. 

Conan came out in 82 and no one had a clue?
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: tbombz on November 15, 2010, 12:12:55 PM
So according to you Zane would beat for example a Cedric McMillain outweighing him by 60 pds? :D

(http://maxximum-portal.com/forum/richedit/upload/2kd80f55f808.jpg)

lmao.. some of these guys on here project their frail bodies with their blind worship of the smallest mr olympia ever..    zane looked absolutely amazing, no doubt about that... but the npc passed him up about 20 years ago...
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Jaime on November 15, 2010, 12:22:36 PM
lmao.. some of these guys on here project their frail bodies with their blind worship of the smallest mr olympia ever..    zane looked absolutely amazing, no doubt about that... but the npc passed him up about 20 years ago...


Nah Zane looks better than 99% of pro bodybuilders, he was the Mr.O so he is used as a referance point.

It could be Nubret or Reeves, it doesn't matter, they represent an idealology that is completely diffeent from modern bodybuilding.

Him being small and people aspiring to his look has jack to do with it. If anything it's far less attainable.

Anybody can get big, absolutely anybody. To look good while not weighing much is entirely down to genetics and structure.

With the right training and supplementation anybody could put on the mass of modern pro bodybuilders.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
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Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
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Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: flexingtonsteele on November 15, 2010, 03:12:17 PM
lmao.. some of these guys on here project their frail bodies with their blind worship of the smallest mr olympia ever..    zane looked absolutely amazing, no doubt about that... but the npc passed him up about 20 years ago...

totally the opposite.

while the physiques might be bigger and have more muscle than they did 20 years ago, bodybuilding has totally regressed in the last 20 years.

just take a look at those worlds championships pics from this year.......now thats old school conditioning and size. they blow away 99% of the pros today.

zane might have been small and 190lbs but the quality of his physique blows away anything today.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: andreisdaman on November 15, 2010, 03:22:43 PM
Heavy weight means jack shit in bodybuilding.   

This true...if you are taking steroids you are gonna look jacked no matter what you do and what weight you lift....you can curl ten pounds like Zane is doing and still get awesome biceps.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: nzmusclemonster on November 15, 2010, 03:26:31 PM
Best Mr Olympia ever.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: tbombz on November 15, 2010, 03:57:26 PM

Nah Zane looks better than 99% of pro bodybuilders, he was the Mr.O so he is used as a referance point.

It could be Nubret or Reeves, it doesn't matter, they represent an idealology that is completely diffeent from modern bodybuilding.

Him being small and people aspiring to his look has jack to do with it. If anything it's far less attainable.

Anybody can get big, absolutely anybody. To look good while not weighing much is entirely down to genetics and structure.

With the right training and supplementation anybody could put on the mass of modern pro bodybuilders.

totally the opposite.

while the physiques might be bigger and have more muscle than they did 20 years ago, bodybuilding has totally regressed in the last 20 years.

just take a look at those worlds championships pics from this year.......now thats old school conditioning and size. they blow away 99% of the pros today.

zane might have been small and 190lbs but the quality of his physique blows away anything today.

your both retarded.  :D

just because the guys who have been winning the olympia (dorian, ronnie, jay) lack symetry and aesthetics, doesnt mean all npc and ifbb bodybuilders do.


like i said, the npc passed up zane 20 years ago with the coming of ray, wheeler, levrone, cormier and company. the past ten years or so some guys have started losing shape at the expense of size, but not everybody-far from it.


list of guys in last years olympia who have better aesthetics than zane (remember, size is a part of aesthetics too, and if two guys have the exact same physique but one is just a little bit heavier muscled, the bigger guy thus has better aesthetics[he will have a more pronounced x frame, v taper, more definition due to bigger muscle bellies, etc]):

Phil Heath, Dexter Jackson, Ronny Rockel, Hide Yamagishi, Troy Alves, Edward Nunn, David Henry, Steve Namat



Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: flexingtonsteele on November 15, 2010, 04:05:22 PM
your both retarded.  :D

just because the guys who have been winning the olympia (dorian, ronnie, jay) lack symetry and aesthetics, doesnt mean all npc and ifbb bodybuilders do.


like i said, the npc passed up zane 20 years ago with the coming of ray, wheeler, levrone, cormier and company. the past ten years or so some guys have started losing shape at the expense of size, but not everybody-far from it.


list of guys in last years olympia who have better aesthetics than zane (remember, size is a part of aesthetics too, and if two guys have the exact same physique but one is just a little bit heavier muscled, the bigger guy thus has better aesthetics[he will have a more pronounced x frame, v taper, more definition due to bigger muscle bellies, etc]):

Phil Heath, Dexter Jackson, Ronny Rockel, Hide Yamagishi, Troy Alves, Edward Nunn, David Henry, Steve Namat





WRONG!

Size has nothing to do with asthetics, nothing at all.

Asthetics is all about the beauty of the physique, the artisitic part of bodybuilding. Size is a totally different ballgame.

Most physiques look like shit nowadays, it doesnt matter if its at a local show the npc nationals or the mr. olympia.

The regression of bodybuilding is why shawn ray called this years nationals the worst he's ever seen.

If the NPC has surpassed the physiques of the zane error than why would shawn ray say such a thing? When you said the NPC has gotten so much better?



Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: tbombz on November 15, 2010, 04:25:48 PM
i didnt look at this years nationals but i would bet that ray was talkign about the depth of the field, and not the class winners(although he may have been rtefering to burneika).

size has everything to do with aesthetics in bodybuilding. without size, you have zero aesthetics. muscle is what creaters the shape - and shape is what forms aesthetics. bigger muscles=more shape, and as long as bodyfat doesnt increase and the abdomen doesnt protrude then that= better aesthetics.



heres juan morel, second place heavyweights at nationals. definitely better than zane, albeit he doesnt have as much abdominal definition as zane, he possess superior aesthetics and size


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=351639.0;attach=387103)
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Jaime on November 15, 2010, 04:25:48 PM
your both retarded.  :D

just because the guys who have been winning the olympia (dorian, ronnie, jay) lack symetry and aesthetics, doesnt mean all npc and ifbb bodybuilders do.


like i said, the npc passed up zane 20 years ago with the coming of ray, wheeler, levrone, cormier and company. the past ten years or so some guys have started losing shape at the expense of size, but not everybody-far from it.


list of guys in last years olympia who have better aesthetics than zane (remember, size is a part of aesthetics too, and if two guys have the exact same physique but one is just a little bit heavier muscled, the bigger guy thus has better aesthetics[he will have a more pronounced x frame, v taper, more definition due to bigger muscle bellies, etc]):

Phil Heath, Dexter Jackson, Ronny Rockel, Hide Yamagishi, Troy Alves, Edward Nunn, David Henry, Steve Namat







Wow..................... ........You think that fucking Phil Heath, Dexter Jackson et cetera have better aesthetics than Zane, Nubret......

You are a complete fucking retard if you are being serious.

Do you have any comprehension of what aesthetic is?

The human body can only support a certain ammount of mass before the lines and structure get swamped by mass.

Dexter looks like he has swallowed a tortoise, he has zero taper, Phil heath has the arms of someone 8 foot tall and the chest and width of a 7 year old girl... ::)

Flex Wheeler is a good example, he looked a million times better in his rookie year than he ever did again.

Most people would look at someone like Rockel or Henry and burst out laughing because they look so bad.

Go and ask a thousand people on the street what they think looks more aesthetic Zane or Heath. I would be surprised if more than five people said Heath.

Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: tbombz on November 15, 2010, 04:30:59 PM

Most people would look at someone like Rockel or Henry and burst out laughing because they look so bad.



nobody is laughing at rockel's physique.  theres a case to be made about the big guts and awkward social behaviors that some bodybuilders display which makes them laughable, and indeed, laughed at. but a guy like rockel is not drawing any of that attention. 



you have some pre conceptions about admitting anyones superiority to zane. why woudl that be? i can only speculate.. maybe because he was the smallest olympia? are you a small guy always had trouble gaining size??   :)
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Howard on November 15, 2010, 04:35:26 PM
This true...if you are taking steroids you are gonna look jacked no matter what you do and what weight you lift....you can curl ten pounds like Zane is doing and still get awesome biceps.

Line up 5,000 gym rats and give them plenty of juice along with hard training and a decent diet.
They will all makes gains in terms of muscle size and strength.
I suspect some will get a lot BIGGER than Zane in his prime, but guess what? NONE of them will ever be Mr Olympia and/or look like one.
Say what you want, Zane was a three time Mr O, end of debate   'nuff said
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Jaime on November 15, 2010, 04:44:13 PM
nobody is laughing at rockel's physique.  theres a case to be made about the big guts and awkward social behaviors that some bodybuilders display which makes them laughable, and indeed, laughed at. but a guy like rockel is not drawing any of that attention. 



you have some pre conceptions about admitting anyones superiority to zane. why woudl that be? i can only speculate.. maybe because he was the smallest olympia? are you a small guy always had trouble gaining size??   :)





Forget Zane. Nubret, Reeves, Paris, Wheeler, whatever.... Rockel has shit genetics and is a bloated midget mess.

If you are going to say that you don't think that Zane carried enough mass then at least say he falls short of someone with a superior structure, like a Flex Wheeler or a Bob Paris.

You have absolutely no idea what aesthetic means.

"Aesthetics is size" lol.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: flexingtonsteele on November 15, 2010, 04:45:15 PM
i didnt look at this years nationals but i would bet that ray was talkign about the depth of the field, and not the class winners(although he may have been rtefering to burneika).

size has everything to do with aesthetics in bodybuilding. without size, you have zero aesthetics. muscle is what creaters the shape - and shape is what forms aesthetics. bigger muscles=more shape, and as long as bodyfat doesnt increase and the abdomen doesnt protrude then that= better aesthetics.



heres juan morel, second place heavyweights at nationals. definitely better than zane, albeit he doesnt have as much abdominal definition as zane, he possess superior aesthetics and size


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=351639.0;attach=387103)

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

You're comparing a guy who couldnt win the heavies in what shawn ray called the weakest nationals in the history of the event to a 3x mr.olympia.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Thats laughable at best.

And size has zero to do with asthetics. thats why they judge size and asthetics as two seperate entities. because one has nothing to do with the other.

And Shawn Ray was talkin about the quality of the physiques at the show. It was terrible.

Try again taylor, your argument here is terrible. Zane, Nubret, Paris, thats bodybuilding. An early wheeler, shawn ray, makaway, haney, thats bodybuilding......

What you see onstage today is SHIT!

Flexington 1 , Tbombz 0
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: tbombz on November 15, 2010, 09:20:08 PM



Forget Zane. Nubret, Reeves, Paris, Wheeler, whatever.... Rockel has shit genetics and is a bloated midget mess.

If you are going to say that you don't think that Zane carried enough mass then at least say he falls short of someone with a superior structure, like a Flex Wheeler or a Bob Paris.

You have absolutely no idea what aesthetic means.

"Aesthetics is size" lol.

i already mentioned wheeler as being superior to zane. zane looked awesome. how many times do i have to say that. but theres 500 guys in the npc today who look better than he did. not all the guys, and not all the guys that are winning either. npc/ifbb judges dont always award the best physiques. there is a case to be made about the "downfall of bodybuilding" in regards to the distended stomachs, wide waists and the lack of conditioning that has been accepted in mr olympias and other top spots, but those guys usually have a shit load of mass to go along with it. alot of guys dont get distorted, keep their aesthetics, and achieve a bigger, better body than zane had.








flexington- find any one pitcure of zane in a similar pose where its clear he is the better bodybuilder. you wont be able to. the guy up there cant win his class at nationals, but his physique shits all over zanes. more development in all the muscle groups, more pronounced x frame, smaller waist, etc.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: flexingtonsteele on November 15, 2010, 09:39:12 PM
i already mentioned wheeler as being superior to zane. zane looked awesome. how many times do i have to say that. but theres 500 guys in the npc today who look better than he did. not all the guys, and not all the guys that are winning either. npc/ifbb judges dont always award the best physiques. there is a case to be made about the "downfall of bodybuilding" in regards to the distended stomachs, wide waists and the lack of conditioning that has been accepted in mr olympias and other top spots, but those guys usually have a shit load of mass to go along with it. alot of guys dont get distorted, keep their aesthetics, and achieve a bigger, better body than zane had.








flexington- find any one pitcure of zane in a similar pose where its clear he is the better bodybuilder. you wont be able to. the guy up there cant win his class at nationals, but his physique shits all over zanes. more development in all the muscle groups, more pronounced x frame, smaller waist, etc.


Ill do one better, I cant find a pic of zane that DOESNT blow that dude away.

If there was someone today who had zanes physique with 20lbs plus of muscle he'd be mr.olympia over and over and over.

You gotta look past size when it comes to bodybuilding. Size while important isnt everything. If that was the case marcus ruhl, art atwood, paco bautista, etc etc would be your Mr.O . Size is only one aspect.

The guys in the npc now blow away Zane is terms of size only, but the quality is so much less, that this shouldnt even be an argument. You notice no one else is backing you up in this thread??? Doesnt that say something T?
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: DK II on November 15, 2010, 09:42:09 PM
Ill do one better, I cant find a pic of zane that DOESNT blow that dude away.

If there was someone today who had zanes physique with 20lbs plus of muscle he'd be mr.olympia over and over and over.

You gotta look past size when it comes to bodybuilding. Size while important isnt everything. If that was the case marcus ruhl, art atwood, paco bautista, etc etc would be your Mr.O . Size is only one aspect.

The guys in the npc now blow away Zane is terms of size only, but the quality is so much less, that this shouldnt even be an argument. You notice no one else is backing you up in this thread??? Doesnt that say something T?

Spot on.

Zane was really the best, there's not one who is more pleasing to the eye, it's also almost impossible to find a pic of Zane where he doesn't look superb.

(http://www.healthhabits.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/frank-zane-beard.jpg)
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: DK II on November 15, 2010, 09:44:53 PM
Great article on Zane here:

http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-legend-of-zane-an-interview.html


Quote
Standing 5’9″ and tipping the scales at around 190 pounds, Frank Zane was as good as it got in body-building at a time when the sport was about building an ideal physique, not an overwhelming one.Every inch of his musculature was in aesthetically pleasing proportion with the rest, almost as if sculpted by a divine master artisan who deigned that man, in his dreams of achieving physical perfection, should have a living example to which to aspire. A rising deltoid here; a tapering waistline there; striations all around.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: flexingtonsteele on November 15, 2010, 09:54:50 PM
Spot on.

Zane was really the best, there's not one who is more pleasing to the eye, it's also almost impossible to find a pic of Zane where he doesn't look superb.

(http://www.healthhabits.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/frank-zane-beard.jpg)


Damn that quote is right on the money.  ( Dizzle. Read that over and over and over and that'll give you an idea what asthetics mean and what bodybuilding is truly about )

And that pic is what bodybuilding is all about.

Thats perfection!

Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Disgusted on November 15, 2010, 09:58:55 PM
X100
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Cableguy on November 15, 2010, 10:03:10 PM
Like the Grecian ideal.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Jake_W on November 16, 2010, 08:31:45 AM
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Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: johnnynoname on November 16, 2010, 08:37:10 AM




heres juan morel, second place heavyweights at nationals. definitely better than zane, albeit he doesnt have as much abdominal definition as zane, he possess superior aesthetics and size


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=351639.0;attach=387103)


You hear that?

That's the sound of internet forum credibility going down the toliet with four words
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on November 16, 2010, 08:43:52 AM
Look at Zane's back . . .  Lets see JM's back

THE BEEF
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Tito24 on November 16, 2010, 09:58:11 AM
(http://www.scientific-muscle.de/images/news/bo1.jpg)
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Jaime on November 16, 2010, 10:50:39 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=355043.0;attach=390810)

(http://www.isteroids.com/images/frank-zane.jpg)


This synthol, GH, eating retard probably runs more gear than Zane...But Zane is a little twink apparently, who only skinny, weak, frail guys aspire to.

The fact that this monstrosity had to be on drugs for years to attain a physique that a natty with shit genetics could achieve seems to be missed. Oh the irony.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: JP_RC on November 16, 2010, 11:08:13 AM
Let's just say Zane could've used more size, he would've looked even better with more of it.

See Arnold, Sergio, Nubret, etc. guys from those days that looked even better because of the added size and keeping the aesthetic look, symmetry and good lines.

Haney looked better too and a lot of guys from the 90s.

Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: vic86 on November 16, 2010, 11:14:34 AM
                                                                                                  .
Zane`s Tshirt says Chakra ie wheels :)
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 16, 2010, 11:18:36 AM
Let's just say Zane could've used more size, he would've looked even better with more of it.

See Arnold, Sergio, Nubret, etc. guys from those days that looked even better because of the added size and keeping the aesthetic look, symmetry and good lines.

Haney looked better too and a lot of guys from the 90s.



He tried that , competed at 200lbs and guess what? it didn't work for him. he didn't need anything
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: dj181 on November 16, 2010, 11:24:17 AM
Yep, what ND said is true, Zane was 205 or so in 82 or 83, and he did look much better at 190 compared to 205
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: ManBearPig... on November 16, 2010, 11:28:45 AM
funny how mine and zane's bmi is exactly the same, yet i look like smashed shit.

just goes to show what a crock of shit these "indicators" are.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Jake_W on November 16, 2010, 11:36:25 AM
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Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Jake_W on November 16, 2010, 11:39:05 AM
       LMAO
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Jake_W on November 16, 2010, 11:42:18 AM
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Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: flexingtonsteele on November 16, 2010, 11:45:40 AM

You hear that?

That's the sound of internet forum credibility going down the toliet with four words

HAHA!

This!
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: crownshep on November 16, 2010, 11:53:29 AM
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Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: JP_RC on November 16, 2010, 11:55:21 AM
He tried that , competed at 200lbs and guess what? it didn't work for him. he didn't need anything

It didn't work how? Did his conditioning suffer?

I just think he would look even better with bigger arms, wider lats(would make his waist look even smaller), bigger legs, etc.

With his proportions and symmetry would've made his physique a lot more impressive.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: Jake_W on November 16, 2010, 11:59:19 AM
Zane's wife Christine and Franco
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: dj181 on November 16, 2010, 12:07:03 PM
BMI is BS, waist circumference is a much better tool.
Title: Re: Frank (the truth) Zane looking thick
Post by: French on November 16, 2010, 12:17:03 PM
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