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Title: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: mesmorph78 on November 13, 2010, 07:40:54 AM
Slot of heavy max lifts here jay I quite strong even though he doesn't max out in all his training videos, according to MD Nov 2010 issue


BENCH PRESS         550LBS 2 REPS
INCLINE PRESS.       405LBS 6REPS
DUMBELL PRESS       200lbs 2 REPS
SQUATS                CLOSE TO 700LBS AT 19 yrs old( ass to ground jay states)
FRONT SQUATS.      455LBS 6 TO 8 REPS
DEADLIFTS.            585 for 3 reps
BARBELL ROWS       405  FOR 8 TO 10 REPS
DUMBELL ROWS.      200lbs FOR 10 REPS
MILITARY PRESS.      405 for a few reps (little help)
DUMBELL PRESS       160lbs 8 to 10
DUMBELL CURLS.      80LBS
SKULL CRUSHERS.     2 plates a side
CLOSE GRIP BENCH.   405 FOR 8 TO 10 REPS          
Title: Re: A LIST OF JAYS MAX LIFTS ACCORDING TO MD NOV2010 issue
Post by: _bruce_ on November 13, 2010, 07:44:37 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: A LIST OF JAYS MAX LIFTS ACCORDING TO MD NOV2010 issue
Post by: Mr. Magoo on November 13, 2010, 07:44:47 AM
Somewhere sitting behind a table of chicken and corn bread, Ronnie Coleman is laughing his ass off
Title: Re: A LIST OF JAYS MAX LIFTS ACCORDING TO MD NOV2010 issue
Post by: wes on November 13, 2010, 07:48:10 AM
SQUATS                CLOSE TO 700LBS AT 19 yrs old

hahahahahahahahs  ;D

Give me a fucking break.
Title: Re: A LIST OF JAYS MAX LIFTS ACCORDING TO MD NOV2010 issue
Post by: mesmorph78 on November 13, 2010, 07:51:04 AM
Somewhere sitting behind a table of chicken and corn bread, Ronnie Coleman is laughing his ass off

 ;D ;D

Title: Re: A LIST OF JAYS MAX LIFTS ACCORDING TO MD NOV2010 issue
Post by: Man of Steel on November 13, 2010, 07:52:36 AM
Somewhere sitting behind a table of chicken and corn bread, Ronnie Coleman is laughing his ass off

AHAHAHAHAH!!
Title: Re: A LIST OF JAYS MAX LIFTS ACCORDING TO MD NOV2010 issue
Post by: Pecs on November 13, 2010, 07:53:13 AM
Slot of heavy max lifts here jay I quite strong even though he doesn't max out in all his training videos


BENCH PRESS         550LBS 2 REPS
INCLINE PRESS.       405LBS 6REPS
DUMBELL PRESS       200lbs 2 REPS
SQUATS                CLOSE TO 700LBS AT 19 yrs old
FRONT SQUATS.      455LBS 6 TO 8 REPS
DEADLIFTS.            585 for 3 reps
BARBELL ROWS       405  FOR 8 TO 10 REPS
DUMBELL ROWS.      200lbs FOR 10 REPS
MILITARY PRESS.      405 for a few reps (little help)
DUMBELL PRESS       160lbs 8 to 10
DUMBELL CURLS.      80LBS
SKULL CRUSHERS.     2 plates a side
CLOSE GRIP BENCH.   405 FOR 8 TO 10 REPS          

I might only believe the deadlifts
Title: Re: A LIST OF JAYS MAX LIFTS ACCORDING TO MD NOV2010 issue
Post by: mesmorph78 on November 13, 2010, 07:53:36 AM
SQUATS                CLOSE TO 700LBS AT 19 yrs old

hahahahahahahahs  ;D

Give me a fucking break.

I was a little skeptical about that one...  That's a lot of weight for a 19 yr old.
But this is what was printed word for word article written by jay his monthly column and he stated he went ass to ground on his squats always
Title: Re: A LIST OF JAYS MAX LIFTS ACCORDING TO MD NOV2010 issue
Post by: dan18 on November 13, 2010, 07:55:47 AM
Slot of heavy max lifts here jay I quite strong even though he doesn't max out in all his training videos


BENCH PRESS         550LBS 2 REPS
INCLINE PRESS.       405LBS 6REPS
DUMBELL PRESS       200lbs 2 REPS
SQUATS                CLOSE TO 700LBS AT 19 yrs old( ass to ground jay states)
FRONT SQUATS.      455LBS 6 TO 8 REPS
DEADLIFTS.            585 for 3 reps
BARBELL ROWS       405  FOR 8 TO 10 REPS
DUMBELL ROWS.      200lbs FOR 10 REPS
MILITARY PRESS.      405 for a few reps (little help)
DUMBELL PRESS       160lbs 8 to 10
DUMBELL CURLS.      80LBS
SKULL CRUSHERS.     2 plates a side
CLOSE GRIP BENCH.   405 FOR 8 TO 10 REPS          


Take away the tons of gh and juice and you can drop everything about 150 to 200 pounds same goes for that monkey ronnie coleman
Title: Re: A LIST OF JAYS MAX LIFTS ACCORDING TO MD NOV2010 issue
Post by: LMV on November 13, 2010, 07:56:34 AM


great numbers

good on you jay !
Title: Re: A LIST OF JAYS MAX LIFTS ACCORDING TO MD NOV2010 issue
Post by: mass243 on November 13, 2010, 08:05:11 AM
SQUATS                CLOSE TO 700LBS AT 19 yrs old

hahahahahahahahs  ;D

Give me a fucking break.

If you can't do it, it doesn't make it impossible for others. Calm down... some people just are born to lift... Live with it. (I'm not claiming I was born to lift... far from that  ;D)
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts
Post by: local hero on November 13, 2010, 08:33:18 AM
i actualy dont think he's that strong for elite level bodybuilder of his size.... yates, coleman and levrone etc etc totaly crush all his numbers all day long

only impressive numbers are the shoulder presses and the alleged squats
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts
Post by: spinnis on November 13, 2010, 08:35:46 AM
I believe him. (maby not the squat though)
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts
Post by: tendonitis on November 13, 2010, 08:50:47 AM
Jay never lies.  He was programmed at the factory to always be 100% honest.
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts
Post by: mesmorph78 on November 13, 2010, 09:07:01 AM
550 for two is impressive
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: Wiggs on November 13, 2010, 09:21:22 AM
All those seem like legit Jay lifts...the only one I question is the 700 at 19...I see him in the gym often and based on what he wrote, those seem about right.
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: Below Me on November 13, 2010, 09:21:34 AM
These sound like NO BS numbers.   Probably pretty accurate.
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: mesmorph78 on November 13, 2010, 09:30:08 AM
Another point is jay works through his sets pretty fast probably why he never maxes out
Title: Re: A LIST OF JAYS MAX LIFTS ACCORDING TO MD NOV2010 issue
Post by: Parker on November 13, 2010, 09:47:50 AM
I might only believe the deadlifts
Which might be the reason for his subpar lower back.
Title: Re: A LIST OF JAYS MAX LIFTS ACCORDING TO MD NOV2010 issue
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 13, 2010, 10:00:05 AM


Take away the tons of gh and juice and you can drop everything about 150 to 200 pounds same goes for that monkey ronnie coleman

probably even more, like 250-300lbs
Title: Re: A LIST OF JAYS MAX LIFTS ACCORDING TO MD NOV2010 issue
Post by: Hulkotron on November 13, 2010, 10:05:45 AM
SQUATS                CLOSE TO 700LBS AT 19 yrs old

hahahahahahahahs  ;D

Give me a fucking break.

Haha I love the stories that are like "Yeah I once squatted close to 700 lbs I don't remember how much it was exactly" as if they don't know exactly how much it was.

Also b.s. on the 550 bench.
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: 240 is Back on November 13, 2010, 10:13:08 AM
it's weird that guys gain 100 pounds of muscle and train for 20 years, and get weaker.
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: StanZoLOL on November 13, 2010, 10:16:44 AM
These sound like NO BS numbers.   Probably pretty accurate.

Yep, most of them are pretty accurate, especially allowing 'gym form', etc. Even the squat.
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts
Post by: monstercalves on November 13, 2010, 10:18:58 AM
Jay never lies.  He was programmed at the factory to always be 100% honest.


lmao genius
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: powermaxx9 on November 13, 2010, 10:26:34 AM
SQUATS                CLOSE TO 700LBS AT 19 yrs old( ass to ground jay states)

maybe jay considers 300 to be close to 700?
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: Parker on November 13, 2010, 10:37:40 AM
A fridge lifting weight is serious business...
(http://www.legendarystrength.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/iStock_000007358533XSmall.jpg)
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: mesmorph78 on November 13, 2010, 10:38:38 AM
700 is a lotta weight for a teen probably still in puberty
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: mass243 on November 13, 2010, 10:39:04 AM
A fridge lifting weight is serious business...
(http://www.legendarystrength.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/iStock_000007358533XSmall.jpg)

I didn't know Jay was this hardcore using chains like Branch.....
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: Parker on November 13, 2010, 10:41:54 AM
I didn't know Jay was this hardcore using chains like Branch.....
Hardcore: Sears Special Edition
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: Wiggs on November 13, 2010, 10:43:38 AM
I didn't know Jay was this hardcore using chains like Branch.....


lol...LIGHT WEIGHT FUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: kevcat on November 13, 2010, 11:15:54 AM
Whats so unbelievable about the numbers? Theyre not exactly killing elite powerlifters or anything, and for the size of the guy its pretty believable.
As for someone who said Levrone and Yates kill these numbers, wheres the proof of that?
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: Parker on November 13, 2010, 11:45:10 AM
Whats so unbelievable about the numbers? Theyre not exactly killing elite powerlifters or anything, and for the size of the guy its pretty believable.
As for someone who said Levrone and Yates kill these numbers, wheres the proof of that?
They are in some old magazines, apparently Kev tore his pec back in the day benching 550-600 pounds. And if you look at that benching vid, he is no joke...
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: mass243 on November 13, 2010, 11:48:06 AM
They are in some old magazines, apparently Kev tore his pec back in the day benching 550-600 pounds. And if you look at that benching vid, he is no joke...

Kevin was one strong mf!
No question about that.
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: local hero on November 13, 2010, 12:08:23 PM
Whats so unbelievable about the numbers? Theyre not exactly killing elite powerlifters or anything, and for the size of the guy its pretty believable.
As for someone who said Levrone and Yates kill these numbers, wheres the proof of that?

proofs in the pudding............
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: mesmorph78 on November 13, 2010, 12:36:09 PM
keV is a a strong presser
for sure
curled 100s. Too
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: Parker on November 13, 2010, 12:45:37 PM
keV is a a strong presser
for sure
curled 100s. Too

Then you have the Chris Cormier squatting 695 for reps, and he was pressing 200's back in the day, he was known as impressive presser,
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: Wiggs on November 13, 2010, 12:58:06 PM
Strongest all time in no particular order

Ronnie, Yates, Johnny Jackson, Chris Cormier, Mike Francois, Kai, Levrone, Franco Columbo...Feel free to add more...I'm drawing a blank...
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: mesmorph78 on November 13, 2010, 01:01:45 PM
Take johnnie out that list and kai
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on November 13, 2010, 01:04:35 PM
700 at 19, why not? i did 600 at 21 with straps (pl things you tie round your legs, dont know the name) and jay was alot bigger than me at 19, so with pl gear that not impossible

( 3...2....1....all the homos welcome to chime in "of course you did")

jay at 19
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: Wiggs on November 13, 2010, 01:05:58 PM
Take johnnie out that list and kai

Um exactly why would Johnny and Kai not be on the list?

I've seen Kai lift in person last year during his prep for the O...He def belongs on the list...esp...for how heavy he was lifing 4-5 weeks out from the O...I know you're still butt hurt over his comment about whatever he said he lifted when he was a teen..

Johnny's numbers speak for themselves...He's an elite powerlifter...with that, add the white rhino to the list probably the top of the list...Don't remember his name...the really rich guy that turned pro last year...Stan Efferdine or something among those lines..
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: mesmorph78 on November 13, 2010, 01:19:42 PM
I saw kai on video benching 5 plates oscar hands on the bar from rep one
 

did you see when kevin and roonie and cormier benched 5 plates no hands till the end
Johnnie has a strong deadlift that it
he gets owned very badly whenever he trains with branch on video
aside from deadlft he is not that strong and his form is the worst in bbing history
strongest pros in their prime
Coleman
levrone
cormier
I'd throw branch in there too
he owns johnnie badly
eg he militarly pressed 315 for 12 in a vid when h. Was training with johnnie
johnnie needed help from rep two
how the fuck is he one of the strongest bbers???
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: tallgerman on November 13, 2010, 01:21:52 PM
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Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on November 13, 2010, 01:24:43 PM
hey tallsperman i know that you wont stop being a annoying twat, but please at least post pics of slim chicks and not cows.
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: Wiggs on November 13, 2010, 01:26:27 PM
I saw kai on video benching 5 plates oscar hands on the bar from rep one
 

did you see when kevin and roonie and cormier benched 5 plates no hands till the end
Johnnie has a strong deadlift that it
he gets owned very badly whenever he trains with branch on video
aside from deadlft he is not that strong and his form is the worst in bbing history
strongest pros in their prime
Coleman
levrone
cormier
I'd throw branch in there too
he owns johnnie badly
eg he militarly pressed 315 for 12 in a vid when h. Was training with johnnie
johnnie needed help from rep two
how the fuck is he one of the strongest bbers???

How are you going to bring "form" and "Branch" in the same sentence?...He gets the weight up at any cost...
If you took three exercises...Bench, Squat and deadlifts...and had to us strict form...Johnny would kill branch...100:100 times.
So now Kai's not on the list just because Oscar's hands were on the bar?...lol... ::)....Kai would destroy branch and Johnny in just about every lift..except Johnny on deadlift...

Stan Efferdine is on the list near or at the top...
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: mesmorph78 on November 13, 2010, 01:32:07 PM
Please post a vid of kai doing any kind of amazing lift without oscars hand on the bar

branch and john ie use similar form and branch out lift johnnie on everything except deads...
So branch IMO is vastly stronger
feel free to post a vid of johnnie doin an amazing lift except deads
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: JasonH on November 13, 2010, 01:44:59 PM
Slot of heavy max lifts here jay I quite strong even though he doesn't max out in all his training videos, according to MD Nov 2010 issue


BENCH PRESS         550LBS 2 REPS
INCLINE PRESS.       405LBS 6REPS
DUMBELL PRESS       200lbs 2 REPS
SQUATS                CLOSE TO 700LBS AT 19 yrs old( ass to ground jay states)
FRONT SQUATS.      455LBS 6 TO 8 REPS
DEADLIFTS.            585 for 3 reps
BARBELL ROWS       405  FOR 8 TO 10 REPS
DUMBELL ROWS.      200lbs FOR 10 REPS
MILITARY PRESS.      405 for a few reps (little help)
DUMBELL PRESS       160lbs 8 to 10
DUMBELL CURLS.      80LBS
SKULL CRUSHERS.     2 plates a side
CLOSE GRIP BENCH.   405 FOR 8 TO 10 REPS          

I would believe all those numbers except for the dumbell curls - only 80lbs a side? Hell, I've done that before  - you'd think Jay would be capable of 100s.
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: Wiggs on November 13, 2010, 01:45:52 PM
Please post a vid of kai doing any kind of amazing lift without oscars hand on the bar

branch and john ie use similar form and branch out lift johnnie on everything except deads...
So branch IMO is vastly stronger
feel free to post a vid of johnnie doin an amazing lift except deads

As you know Kai is a hermit so good luck on those videos and you can look up Johnny's records to verify his lifts...
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: Parker on November 13, 2010, 01:48:06 PM
I would believe all those numbers except for the dumbell curls - only 80lbs a side? Hell, I've done that before  - you'd think Jay would be capable of 100s.
And you wonder why his biceps look the way they do. BTW, I believe Lee had curled 315, and I think there is video of Darrem Charles curling a 135 pounder.
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: JP_RC on November 13, 2010, 01:55:47 PM
I agree Branch's form is horrible.

Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: Parker on November 13, 2010, 02:03:25 PM
I agree Branch's form is horrible.


Horrible form, horrible physique...hmm maybe a coorrelation? I mean, Bertil Fox had horrible form and a shitty back...Ronnie Coleman's  form was less than perfect, but not horrible, and he didn't look terrible. Maybe it's hit or miss, or if you are not activating the muscle fibers.
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: JP_RC on November 13, 2010, 02:06:46 PM
Horrible form, horrible physique...hmm maybe a coorrelation? I mean, Bertil Fox had horrible form and a shitty back...Ronnie Coleman's  form was less than perfect, but not horrible, and he didn't look terrible. Maybe it's hit or miss, or if you are not activating the muscle fibers.

Ronnie was an exception...too much of a freak. You see Branch trying to imitate him and ends up injurying himself and like you said looking horrible.
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: mesmorph78 on November 13, 2010, 02:11:21 PM
As you know Kai is a hermit so good luck on those videos and you can look up Johnny's records to verify his lifts...

if this is the case and he is a hermit how did u arrive at the conclusion that kai who had oscar helping him every rep with 500 is one of the strongest bbers of all time

we all know Jackson can deadlift from what I can see on video weak on presses owned by branch in chest session and shoulder session . Why should he make the list no way bbing excersises I wouldn't even have johnnie anywhere near the strongest bbers list
strong dead that's it
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: Parker on November 13, 2010, 02:14:25 PM
if this is the case and he is a hermit how did u arrive at the conclusion that kai who had oscar helping him every rep with 500 is one of the strongest bbers of all time

we all know Jackson can deadlift from what I can see on video weak on presses owned by branch in chest session and shoulder session . Why should he make the list no way bbing excersises I wouldn't even have johnnie anywhere near the strongest bbers list
strong dead that's it
I fogot what JOJ's totals and the break down of his powerlifting meets, but didn't he do well over 500 on bench at this past Olympia's World's Strongest Bodybuilder?   
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: Wiggs on November 13, 2010, 02:20:59 PM
if this is the case and he is a hermit how did u arrive at the conclusion that kai who had oscar helping him every rep with 500 is one of the strongest bbers of all time

we all know Jackson can deadlift from what I can see on video weak on presses owned by branch in chest session and shoulder session . Why should he make the list no way bbing excersises I wouldn't even have johnnie anywhere near the strongest bbers list
strong dead that's it

I told you already, when he was here last year for the O training at my gym, (not my gym, the gym I go to) He and Oscar allowed me to follow them around in the gym for the last 7 weeks of the show and I wrote those posts about it...
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: JP_RC on November 13, 2010, 02:22:27 PM
What's with all this worrying about who is the strongest pro, who lifts heavier, etc.

Dexter is "weaker" than Jay, but looks much better.

Flex wasn't as strong as Dorian, but looked better.
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: Parker on November 13, 2010, 02:23:03 PM
if this is the case and he is a hermit how did u arrive at the conclusion that kai who had oscar helping him every rep with 500 is one of the strongest bbers of all time

we all know Jackson can deadlift from what I can see on video weak on presses owned by branch in chest session and shoulder session . Why should he make the list no way bbing excersises I wouldn't even have johnnie anywhere near the strongest bbers list
strong dead that's it
Also, in this vid, JOJ explains his use of floor presses to help him with his bench
Title: Re: A list of Jay Cutler's max heavy lifts according to MD NOV 2010 issue
Post by: mesmorph78 on November 13, 2010, 03:31:24 PM
Stomgest bber :-\ :-\ :-\
here is branch pwning him watch entire clip