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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Hugo Chavez on November 16, 2010, 05:14:09 AM
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Are 'terrorists' more dangerous than how we react to them?
A TSA agent had just felt up my balls as I boarded a plane. I felt seriously fucking violated but I needed to board that red eye so I kept my mouth shut and got myself molested in the interest of 'getting where I needed to be in a harsh economy'. I handed over my boarding card and got directed to my seat. I stuck my carry on luggage into the overhead compartment. I chit chatted with the random guy who sat next to me. Both of us were uneasy as we whipped out our laptops. After all, either of us could have a strip of semtex explosive instead of a lithium battery installed. Not that the TSA would know any better. And I realized...
Airport security is theater.
The necessary fiction of modern life.
I then came to a sudden realization as I tested my flotation device, that if I were an actual terrorist boarding a flight in any American airport, why would I waste my time trying to fool the TSA and smuggle a 'bomb' on board a plane when I could cause far more havoc by simply taking the same bomb and walking to the busiest local shopping mall, tossing my bomb in a rubbish bin at the food court and walking slowly away.
BOOM!
The 'terrorists' have just made every shopping facility in America a no go area. The greatest hit to a consumer economy ever! Why, if the terrorist threat is so real, are soft targets like shopping malls not blowing up every week? A true terrorist would simply bypass flying and blow up soft civilian targets. If Al Qaida are so prevalent, and the war on terror is real, then why are Al Qaida wasting their time smuggling bombs onto airplanes?
There are so many soft targets that could do far more economic damage.
Why are they not happening?
Oh shit, as the author of this entire piece, I suddenly realize how shit gets skewed.
http://wartard.blogspot.com/2010/11/terrorist-fail.html
I realize that some blogger calling himself wartard doesn't exactly start out with a lot of credibility, but does he have a good point here?
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Disagree completely - a plane on a bomb has the potental to kill many more and scare the crap out of far more people.
A terrorist with a bomb at a mall means millions more people going for concealed weapons permits and a few dead muslims.
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Disagree completely - a plane on a bomb has the potental to kill many more and scare the crap out of far more people.
A terrorist with a bomb at a mall means millions more people going for concealed weapons permits and a few dead muslims.
I honestly don't know. If you look at the way cities have reacted to a serial killer or random shooters going uncaught for weeks... there is an effect, some do stay home and lock their doors. When you consider that it only takes 10 to 15% to hit an economy hard, they don't need much to have a big effect. even worse in an economy that is already highly stressed. Even if you have 50% running out for guns and permits including the folks that already have them there is the portion of America that runs for cover and if they trigger them, it hits America and possibly hard. If they hit 3 random shopping malls across America 1 month before Christmas you can't say there wouldn't be a negative impact. I don't know for sure that there would be, but it's by far not unimaginable, it's actually realistic.
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Oh it would definately have an impact no doubt - but these asholes want major terrois events, not a dozen dead kids at a mall.
They want the 9/11 imagery and the big bang - not a three day news event.
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Oh it would definately have an impact no doubt - but these asholes want major terrois events, not a dozen dead kids at a mall.
They want the 9/11 imagery and the big bang - not a three day news event.
I disagree with that. They clearly want what has a big impact and that's not necessarily the biggest casualty number in a bombing. The whole premise of terrorism is to terrorise a population with the main point being to force attention to their cause. Disrupting the holiday season with a few mall bombings would have a much bigger impact than a hijacked plane. Not to mention that all the safeguards are already in place today to prevent that. Even if a terrorist passes TSA, he's not getting to the cockpit to fly that plane today... He may bring down the plane or may not but he's not going to fly it into a building or anywhere else. in fact there's a much better chance today that if he actually makes it on the plane, it will be a fail. You can't say that about the multitude of "soft targets" across America. Most of them would be walk in, walk out, boom... Now I know that sounds sick to say and I feel uncomfortable even talking about this, but I'm truly wondering if this guy has a valid point. I want to think not, but logically I'm thinking he does.
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Yeah - but Hugo - in 10 years - not once has this happened, espite how easy it would be. Why?
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Yeah - but Hugo - in 10 years - not once has this happened, espite how easy it would be. Why?
Yea and in the entire time the TSA has existed, they've never once caught a terrorist. Plus with what you just said, it was part of the point of this dude's blog. Good question, why? One he is partly asking...
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Yea and in the entire time the TSA has exsisted, they've never once caught a terrorist. Plus with what you just said, it was part of the point of this dude's blog. Good question, why? One he is partly asking...
Serious - lets say I get 5 crazies together. We get AK's each with 10 30 round clips. 300 Rounds a guy plus body armour. We get in a minivan and go to Times Square or Mid Town NYC and just start blasting away.
We could kill at least 100 people easily before being stopped. That type of scenaro has always puzzled me as to why it has not happened since it seems it would be so easy to accomplish.
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I have suggested before that the terrorist threat isn't as dengerous as it's made up to be. I have shown how airports and airplanes are still easy targets. And how anyone with just a few thousand dollars could halt air traffic in the USA for a few days again.
So I agree with some of this.
The no fly list is show also.
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Disagree completely - a plane on a bomb has the potental to kill many more and scare the crap out of far more people.
A terrorist with a bomb at a mall means millions more people going for concealed weapons permits and a few dead muslims.
Obama did it
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Serious - lets say I get 5 crazies together. We get AK's each with 10 30 round clips. 300 Rounds a guy plus body armour. We get in a minivan and go to Times Square or Mid Town NYC and just start blasting away.
We could kill at least 100 people easily before being stopped. That type of scenaro has always puzzled me as to why it has not happened since it seems it would be so easy to accomplish.
see, now you're starting to see what this bloggers point is. Even worse, with your point, you would be caught. With someone planting a bomb in malls, they could possibly get away with it and move on to the next plan. why hasn't it happened? At this point it's a thousand times more easy to pull off than getting on a plane and hijacking it.
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see, now you're starting to see what this bloggers point is. Even worse, with your point, you would be caught. With someone planting a bomb in malls, they could possibly get away with it and move on to the next plan. why hasn't it happened? At this point it's a thousand times more easy to pull off than getting on a plane and hijacking it.
Check this out - last year oil barges were sitting in NY harbor. How hard would it have been to strap a bunch of bombs like the Cole in a pleasure boat and go sink one of those?
I just don't understand sometimes why we have not been hit a lot more since it seems so easy to do.
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Check this out - last year oil barges were sitting in NY harbor. How hard would it have been to strap a bunch of bombs like the Cole in a pleasure boat and go sink one of those?
I just don't understand sometimes why we have not been hit a lot more since it seems so easy to do.
It doesn't "seem" so easy to do, it would be easy to do! That does make you wonder, as Ozmo pointed out, just how big this terrorist threat is? Obviously not big enough that we need to be paying billions of dollars to ex burger flippers to feel our junk or see us nekkid scanned lol....
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Oh it would definately have an impact no doubt - but these asholes want major terrois events, not a dozen dead kids at a mall.
They want the 9/11 imagery and the big bang - not a three day news event.
I have to agree with 333 AS WELL AS the blogger.
The terrorists do want major terrorism events with the 911 imagery, the big bang and endless news coverage.
Now all you have to do is figure out exactly who these SOB terrorists really are.
Once you've determined that, ...then you're in a better position to gauge the real terrorist threat level.