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http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/11/16/3068052.htm (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/11/16/3068052.htm) ;D ;D
For Australian soldiers, a tour of duty to Afghanistan entails a good deal of danger. But a small number are getting into trouble of their own making.
Three soldiers have been sent home from Afghanistan after being caught using anabolic steroids. Earlier this year, four elite special forces soldiers were also found to be using steroids.
One defence commentator says the problem is worrying because although soldiers know they can be routinely tested for drug use, they are persisting with their risky behaviour.
The Defence Department says of the three men recently caught with steroids, one has been discharged and the other two are in the process of being sacked from the Army.
The executive director of the Australia Defence Association, Neil James, says the low number of cases indicate this is not a major issue for the Army.
"We don't see this as being a widespread problem at all, considering the number of people that serve in Afghanistan each year, that's about one in 600, which is a remarkably low percentage," he said.
Drug testing soldiers has moved from random to routine in the past couple of years, and Mr James says it is surprising troops thought they could avoid detection.
"Well the only thing that's a little bit disquieting about this is now the testing of the troops overseas is near 100 per cent, you wonder how anyone thought they could get away with it," he said.
Sign of boredom
"But steroid use tends to be a sign of boredom and it tends to be a little bit of a competitive thing among young, fit Australians.
"So if you've got the problem in the wider society then you're eventually going to have it in your military. But how they thought they could get away with it is a bit puzzling."
Commentators argue taking steroids does not provide a physical edge in combat, and Mr James says, if anything, the cases have uncovered a vain streak among Defence personnel.
"What you need in combat is physical fitness and endurance fitness and steroids have more to do with muscle tone," he said.
It has been well documented that steroids can sometimes carry the side effect of what is known as 'roid rage'.
But Mr James says he doubts the soldiers would be suffering from those side effects.
"Well you would, wouldn't you, but steroid use that produces rage is generally severe steroid use and without knowing what the random or the 100 per cent testing has uncovered, I suspect that is probably hasn't been major overuse, it's just been to a lesser level," he said.
"So I don't really think the rage would have been too much of a problem and there's lots of ways that would have been uncovered anyway, just in the way that soldiers look after each other and their general behaviour."
Mr James says drug use tends to be more common in general units and not among special forces or commandos.
He says they are busier and more disciplined than an average soldier.
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lol @ its okay to shoot and blow up other people but not to take steroids ::) - double standards? surely not.
If they be clever they be handing out steroids to these guys like M&M's - as long as they are faster bigger and better then the
raghead sandcoons AK swinging monkey's in bongobongo land I'm all for steroid
use with the amred forces.
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Any glute shots?(no homo)
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Any glute shots?(no homo)
A shredded muscled ass can overcome almost anything! :D
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A shredded muscled ass can overcome almost anything! :D
(very homo) ;D
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It has been well documented that steroids can sometimes carry the side effect of what is known as 'roid rage'.
could we fucking PLEASE stop with this completely fabricated sensationalized bullshit lie already we all look back now and agree on how ridiculous reefer madness is.........but this equally, or more ridiculous smear is allowed to continue
::) ::)
these stories just make my fucking blood boil
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It has been well documented that steroids can sometimes carry the side effect of what is known as 'roid rage'.
could we fucking PLEASE stop with this completely fabricated sensationalized bullshit lie already we all look back now and agree on how ridiculous reefer madness is.........but this equally, or more ridiculous smear is allowed to continue
::) ::)
these stories just make my fucking blood boil
Whats the problem with roid rage - especially in a war zone.
We just very recently uploaded a video of a marine unit which gote themself into a fire fight filmed by the helmet camera.
They had ANA support and one young ANA soldier which the Marines called sparky was about the most gunho soldier I have ever seen
to the point of being completly reckless.
At one stage the platoon comander had to call sparky back when he attempt to flank the Taliban by himself :D his reaction was...WHY THE FUCK NOT!!!
:D
I think some of the marine units could use some steroids :D
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A shredded muscled ass can overcome almost anything! :D
damn bay I bet the 'end of the rainbow' is in your HDD drive
christ that thing is prob streamin with gayness :D
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It's impossible in Russia, Russian soldiers don't use steroids, they just simply drink...
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damn bay I bet the 'end of the rainbow' is in your HDD drive
christ that thing is prob streamin with gayness :D
gayer than Bay's "hard"drive?
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i fought against the bottle but i had to do it drunk
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gayer than Bay's "hard"drive?
I dont think that 'gayer than' can ever be surpassed, we should get Ron to close the Gayer than thread now.
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It's impossible in Russia, Russian soldiers don't use steroids, they just simply drink...
because of fighting Chechen rebel ::)
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because of exterminating Chechen rebel ::)
Fixed
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Whats the problem with roid rage - especially in a war zone.
We just very recently uploaded a video of a marine unit which gote themself into a fire fight filmed by the helmet camera.
They had ANA support and one young ANA soldier which the Marines called sparky was about the most gunho soldier I have ever seen
to the point of being completly reckless.
At one stage the platoon comander had to call sparky back when he attempt to flank the Taliban by himself :D his reaction was...WHY THE FUCK NOT!!!
:D
I think some of the marine units could use some steroids :D
just shows what a pussified fucking planet we became...........the NAZIs were some of the first to expiriment with steroids specificallly FORthe fact that steroids migh tmake one mroe aggressive, and they were one of the most efficient fighting forces in the history of the planet
but now its a BAD thing, if SOLDIERS are aggressive...... ::) ::) ::)
which steroids will NOT make you be the way
what an ANA soldier ???
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because of fighting Chechen rebel ::)
Chechen rebel is sponsored by US. Chechnya is a Russian region and shortly speaking it's Russia and the current President of Chechnya Ramzan Kadirov is licking Putin's ass everytime he sees it, use a fuckin google bro. You're from Asia I wouldn't be thinking Asians are that ignorant.
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since when does the military test for steroids...........there are plenty of US soldiers who are on gas
there are even active duty IFBB pros
is austrailia more strict, cause i was under the impresion they dont test fore steroids unless someone raises a red flag
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just shows what a pussified fucking planet we became...........the NAZIs were some of the first to expiriment with steroids specificallly FORthe fact that steroids migh tmake one mroe aggressive, and they were one of the most efficient fighting forces in the history of the planet
but now its a BAD thing, if SOLDIERS are aggressive...... ::) ::) ::)
which steroids will NOT make you be the way
what an ANA soldier ???
I think the Japs did their own experiments as well..
ANA Afghanistan National Army - Afghan Army
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poll pots
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Chechen rebel is sponsored by US. Chechnya is a Russian region and shortly speaking it's Russia and the current President of Chechnya Ramzan Kadirov is licking Putin's ass everytime he sees it, use a fuckin google bro. You're from Asia I wouldn't be thinking Asians are that ignorant.
US listed Chechen rebel as terroist now.
by the way,I had studied Russian in my college days 35 years ago :)
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I think the Japs did their own experiments as well..
ANA Afghanistan National Army - Afghan Army
well they gave their soldiers and pilots crystal methamphetamine to the point where after the war, half the country was strung out
so i wouldnt be suprised
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US listed Chechen rebel as terroist now.
by the way,I had studied Russian in my college days 35 years ago :)
One persons freedom fighter is the others terrorist
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US listed Chechen rebel as terroist now.
by the way,I had studied Russian in my college days 35 years ago :)
you may do speak English for all and the Russian exclusively for me, check your memory ;)
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just shows what a pussified fucking planet we became...........the NAZIs were some of the first to expiriment with steroids specificallly FORthe fact that steroids migh tmake one mroe aggressive, and they were one of the most efficient fighting forces in the history of the planet
but now its a BAD thing, if SOLDIERS are aggressive...... ::) ::) ::)
which steroids will NOT make you be the way
what an ANA soldier ???
If you don't think steroids make one more aggressive, then you probably haven't been on them.
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Australian soldiers doing very well in Afghanistan.
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If you don't think steroids make one more aggressive, then you probably haven't been on them.
lol ;D ;D
whatever you say................
you the kind of dude who would commit a violent crime and go with the "ROIDZ MADE EM DO IT" defense
overall , steroids make men somewhat more alpha male in terms of competitively, sexually, in the gym you wanna crush weights, aggressive type of stuff you would expect with supraphysiological testosterone levels
...........but this concept of acute "roid rage" where people lose their minds for periods of time in a violent fits of rage and and unbridled aggression, sue to steroids.......is ......ahem............FUCKING BULLSHIT
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i have been around more steroids and steroid users more then 99.99& of the population.........and its simply comically exaggerated.........i have never seen someone freak out cause they are on steroids
i HAVE witnessed steroids give an insecure douchebag the confidence and the inflated ego to be a bigger douchebag
but no, bruce banner/ jeckel and hyde type of psychotic ciolent episodes......
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lol ;D ;D
whatever you say................
you the kind of dude who would commit a violent crime and go with the "ROIDZ MADE EM DO IT" defense
overall , steroids make men somewhat more alpha male in terms of competitively, sexually, in the gym you wanna crush weights, aggressive type of stuff you would expect with supraphysiological testosterone levels
...........but this concept of acute "roid rage" where people lose their minds for periods of time in a violent fits of rage and and unbridled aggression, sue to steroids.......is ......ahem............FUCKING BULLSHIT
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i have been around more steroids and steroid users more then 99.99& of the population.........and its simply comically exaggerated.........i have never seen someone freak out cause they are on steroids
i HAVE witnessed steroids give an insecure douchebag the confidence and the inflated ego to be a bigger douchebag
but no, bruce banner/ jeckel and hyde type of psychotic ciolent episodes......
You clearly said that steroids do not make one more aggressive in that earlier post. THis is not true, and you you explained why in this post. I am not one to blame steroids for any negative behavior, but to say they do not increase aggression is simply not true.
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You clearly said that steroids do not make one more aggressive in that earlier post. THis is not true, and you you explained why in this post. I am not one to blame steroids for any negative behavior, but to say they do not increase aggression is simply not true.
I think it depends on the individual - there are thousands that can take anything they want and they are never
angry - and some others go out and kill their whole family *cough Chris Benoit
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You clearly said that steroids do not make one more aggressive in that earlier post. THis is not true, and you you explained why in this post. I am not one to blame steroids for any negative behavior, but to say they do not increase aggression is simply not true.
your nitpicking sir
the way we were using "aggressive" in the original context was "would steroids make soldiers more violent and and combative"......to which the answer is no
everyone knows that steroids make you wanna lift and fuck girls.........if you want to call that "aggressive" ..............fine
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can't blame special forces guys for being on them.
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I think it depends on the individual - there are thousands that can take anything they want and they are never
angry - and some others go out and kill their whole family *cough Chris Benoit
He was on every drug under the sun, so it would really be tough to say which drug made him lose his mind.
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your nitpicking sir
the way we were using "aggressive" in the original context was "would steroids make soldiers more violent and and combative"......to which the answer is no
everyone knows that steroids make you wanna lift and fuck girls.........if you want to call that "aggressive" ..............fine
Aggression is aggression. whether you are talking about fighting, or fucking.
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My buddy is in the army special force green beret, he told me 1/2 of his squad are on gears. He even told me in delta force, they give soldiers weekly shots by just visiting doc office. Because they want the delta guys to perform to the limits in mission
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My buddy is in the army special force green beret, he told me 1/2 of his squad are on gears. He even told me in delta force, they give soldiers weekly shots by just visiting doc office. Because they want the delta guys to perform to the limits in mission
Troll harder nigga
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australia is officially the most fucked up country in the free world..
WOW, 3 special forces guys discharged because they wanted to increase their chances of successfull mission... fucking unreal, maybe the australian government should take away their rifles next, cause you know it's cheating..
*shaking head*
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When u don't know who u are talking to n know nothing, shut da fuck up and don't make yourself look like an ass.
Troll harder nigga
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When u don't know who u are talking to n know nothing, shut da fuck up and don't make yourself look like an ass.
You know shit, you have no bro that is an operator or SF othewise you would know Delta doesn't exist ::)
Now go rape yourself with a fleshlight
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Delta do exists u dick hole, everyone knows that when they are in service. keep believe everything govt tells u dumb fuck, how about post a pic of yourself n how tough n smart u are. Just go hit a tree and die fag
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Delta do exists u dick hole, everyone knows that when they are in service. keep believe everything govt tells u dumb fuck, how about post a pic of yourself n how tough n smart u are
Shut your hole newjack - I've posted my picture how about you do the same?
You know shit nigga you are just one of these guys that end up on my page pretending to be ex operator
and get the shit kicked out by my many members that are actually SF and US Forces, you are probably an airsoft player :D hahah
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(http://images2-telegraaf.nl/multimedia/archive/00783/Benedictus_783122d.jpg)
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Shut your hole newjack - I've posted my picture how about you do the same?
You know shit nigga you are just one of these guys that end up on my page pretending to be ex operator
and get the shit kicked out by my many members that are actually SF and US Forces, you are probably an airsoft player :D hahah
;D
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(http://images2-telegraaf.nl/multimedia/archive/00783/Benedictus_783122d.jpg)
hahah you just know by his retarded looking face - this guy is hiding a deep dark secret - he probably harvests tears of unborn children
to bath and drink them.
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This is the last time Im wasting my time on a low life scum spent all his life posting. Trust me u dont wNt to know how i look cuz that will make u felt like shit. U are just a fag and typical Internet warrior now when u go out later watch out for the cars, cuz u might get hit n die. Burn in hell n die fag
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This is the last time Im wasting my time on a low life scum spent all his life posting. Trust me u dont wNt to know how i look cuz that will make u felt like shit. U are just a fag and typical Internet warrior now when u go out later watch out for the cars, cuz u might get hit n die. Burn in hell n die fag
hahah this was too easy...
oh man you are so scary, you are probably just back from douchbegistan all focking roided up with a couple of confirmed kills under your belt ::)
you are pathetic you are just another little scared ho nigga that is too afraid to get out of his basement :D
Again you know shit.
1) You know nobody who is SF
2) You just play a lot of COd
3) You are probably 16 years old :D
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It has been well documented that steroids can sometimes carry the side effect of what is known as 'roid rage'.
could we fucking PLEASE stop with this completely fabricated sensationalized bullshit lie already we all look back now and agree on how ridiculous reefer madness is.........but this equally, or more ridiculous smear is allowed to continue
::) ::)
these stories just make my fucking blood boil
you obviously havent ever used steroids then eh?
i get RR even on very low doses. its like a trigger goes off and the next thing i know im going ballistic.
wouldnt be a good trait in a theatre of war.
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Only time steroids really made me hyper aggressive was on tren. Drinking alcohol on tren is a bad idea. Terrible for your body shouldn't be done.
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you obviously havent ever used steroids then eh?
i get RR even on very low doses. its like a trigger goes off and the next thing i know im going ballistic.
wouldnt be a good trait in a theatre of war.
Thank you.
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you obviously havent ever used steroids then eh?
i get RR even on very low doses. its like a trigger goes off and the next thing i know im going ballistic.
wouldnt be a good trait in a theatre of war.
no, your just a moron who obviously cant handle big boy shit
cause i have been around hundreds of steroid users in my life, not all of them nice people
........and i have never witnessed "roid rage"
some things arent for everyone ::) ::)
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My roommate in the Navy got busted for them....they sent him to AA type meetings...hahaha....he used to come home so pissed about the "drunks and druggies" and how he didn't belong with them.....i agreed and just laughed at him.
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My roommate in the Navy got busted for them....they sent him to AA type meetings...hahaha....he used to come home so pissed about the "drunks and druggies" and how he didn't belong with them.....i agreed and just laughed at him.
so you dont get thrown out if you get caught in the US armed forces?
how did they catch hium?
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so you dont get thrown out if you get caught in the US armed forces?
how did they catch hium?
This was a few years ago, and no he stayed in and only had to attend the meetings. Someone higher up requested a test on him, it's the only way you can get busted in the military.....if things haven't changed. If a superior requests a test, they do the draw and it goes to the same lab in cali that the us olympic team uses.....like I say, thats how it used to work, could be different now. I'm sure there are others one here who know.
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i fought against the bottle but i had to do it drunk
Dutch courage? ;D
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It has been well documented that steroids can sometimes carry the side effect of what is known as 'roid rage'.
could we fucking PLEASE stop with this completely fabricated sensationalized bullshit lie already we all look back now and agree on how ridiculous reefer madness is.........but this equally, or more ridiculous smear is allowed to continue
::) ::)
these stories just make my fucking blood boil
testosteron can make you more agressive. why do you think males are more agressive than woman? why do you think the most agressive animal the bull shark also has the highest test levels. see a correlation here maybe ??