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The Obama administration is considering disabling cell phones in American cars, aiming to cut down on distracted drivers and cell-phone-related road deaths.
Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, the nation’s preeminent anti-distracted-driving crusader, said in an interview on MSNBC yesterday that federal officials are looking at technology to disable cell phones inside cars.
“I think it will be done,” LaHood said. “I think the technology is there and I think you’re going to see the technology become adaptable in automobiles to disable these cell phones. We need to do a lot more if were going to save lives.”
Also on Thursday, the SecTrans launched a new “Faces of Distracted Driving” video campaign that features people who have been killed or lost loved ones because of inattentive drivers. The video features heartwrenching stories of children killed in crashes because of text messaging, and new videos are expected to be added every few weeks, according to the New York Times.
More than 5,500 people were killed last year by distracted drivers, and another 500,000 were injured, according to the Department of Transportation. LaHood has said it is never safe to talk on a cell phone while driving, hands-free or not, because it is a “cognitive distraction.”
Incidentally, a lot of people seem to agree with this sentiment — a new poll released Thursday shows nearly two-thirds of American support a national ban on the use of cell phones while driving, even if the driver is using a hands-free device. But the poll didn’t ask how people feel about government-issued mobile phone scramblers or other disabling devices.
http://www.popsci.com/cars/article/2010-11/thwart-distracted-drivers-government-considers-cell-phone-kill-switches-cars
This is fucking retarded. what about passengers? or in case of an emergency? or blue tooth technology , or just being free >:( >:(
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fucking retarded.
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Fucking insane. Hope and change bitches.
Is this what you assholes voted for and cried for on election night?
Suckers.
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And like typical lapdogs, lemmings, limp wristed fags, sycophants, kneepadding suck ups, dupes, shills, hacks, and sheep,
Obama fans won't say shit about this.
Hey let's trash sarah palin. That's more important. Fucking morons.
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Are they going to jam gps signals?
I swear, this govt is george bush X 50.
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Ray LaHood: Obama’s Power-Mad Cell Phone Czar
By Michelle Malkin • November 19, 2010 09:40 AM
He’s got hang-ups.
My column today shines light on the autocratic agenda of Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood. Readers of Culture of Corruption already know all about this Chicago crony porker’s ties to Rahm Emanuel, Richard Daley, Rod Blagojevich, and Tony Rezko. For a trenchant look at LaHood’s penchant for government coercion and central planning, see chapter one of Terry Jeffrey’s Control Freaks.
Ray LaHood: Obama’s Power-Mad Cell Phone Czar
By Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2010
America is in debt past its eyeballs. Unemployment remains stuck near double digits. Small and large businesses, unions and insurers are clamoring for Obamacare waivers in droves. Jihadists are making a mockery of homeland security. And border chaos reigns. So, what’s one of the Obama administration’s top domestic policy agenda items this month? Combating distracted drivers.
What? You missed the Million Anti-Distracted Drivers Protest March on Washington and the Great Grassroots Groundswell for federal intervention on our highways and byways? Don’t worry. You weren’t the only one.
Making the cable TV rounds to unveil a public service announcement campaign against “epidemic” cell phone use and texting on the road, Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood revealed bizarre and alarming plans on Wednesday to install devices in cars that would block a driver’s ability to communicate.
“There’s a lot of technology out there now that can disable phones, and we’re looking at that,” he threatened. LaHood — a liberal Republican and pork-addicted Chicago crony who embodies Obama “bipartisanship” — envisions centralized government mechanisms to shut off commuters’ BlackBerries and iPhones.
And that’s just the start. “We need to do a lot more if we’re going to save lives,” LaHood vowed, while paying obligatory lip service to encouraging “personal responsibility.” Will the cell phone banners ban radios, GPS devices, makeup and fast food in cars next? All are also listed as causes of distracted driver-induced accidents.
Any death due to such reckless behavior is tragic. But by “saving lives,” what cell phone czar LaHood really means is “controlling lives.” There are already 30 states with laws in place regulating drivers’ cell phone and/or texting habits. The District of Columbia and Guam also passed bans. The safety benefits of such laws are in dispute.
The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety examined insurance claims and driving habits in Louisiana, Washington, Minnesota and California, which all passed texting bans two years ago. Its study found that when compared to neighboring states that had not yet banned texting while driving (Arkansas, Texas and Mississippi), the no-texting states actually reported higher accident rates among young drivers — while the states with no bans maintained constant accident rates. Safety officials theorized that drivers in no-texting states may have adjusted their habits to hide their cell phone use from visual detection by police — incentivizing even riskier behavior.
LaHood and his fellow social meddlers have lashed out at the study and any other evidence that state enforcement of these bans is futile. But there’s a long history of government safety regulations backfiring on central planners. Back in the 1970s, the federal drive to require child safety-caps on aspirin bottles resulted in no reduction in child poisoning deaths. In fact, renowned risk analyst Kip Viscusi at Harvard Law School found that the regulations induced many parents to leave the caps off altogether because they were inconvenient and difficult to remove.
Moreover, the push for federal policing of our driving habits comes just as the federal government itself reports that the rate of teenage-related car accidents has fallen. Yes, fallen. Despite increased cell phone use, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) shows that when the years 2004 through 2008 were compared, there was a 38 percent reduction in the number of car accidents involving 16 and 17 year olds.
So what’s really driving LaHood? He’s pursued an anti-car ideological zeal from Day One — from entertaining proposals to impose mileage taxes on drivers and to track drivers’ routes, to redistributing tax dollars to pie-in-the-sky high-rail projects that no private business will touch, to peddling a “livability initiative” that would discourage suburban growth and corral residents in high-density areas dependent on public transportation.
Like the rest of Obama’s radicals, the Transportation Department’s self-appointed cell phone czar is a power-hungry busybody hiding behind children to expand government’s reach. If only federal agencies came equipped with anti-big government ignition breathalyzer locks.
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The only two obama voters on this board I have any respect for is bf and hugo.
At least they are honest about what the hell is going on.
The rest of you are pathetic for your silence.
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The only two obama voters on this board I have any respect for is bf and hugo.
At least they are honest about what the hell is going on.
The rest of you are pathetic for your silence.
bf? did he really vote for obama?
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i would prefer VERY tough prnalties for morons who text while driving.
For example, if the police dash cam catches your ass on video texting in a non-emergency situation, you lose your license FOR A YEAR.
Pretty simple solution. Pull over to make your texts. Or walk, and text all you want!
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Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, the nation’s preeminent anti-distracted-driving crusader, said in an interview on MSNBC yesterday that federal officials are looking at technology to disable cell phones inside cars.
“I think it will be done,” LaHood said. “I think the technology is there and I think you’re going to see the technology become adaptable in automobiles to disable these cell phones. We need to do a lot more if were going to save lives.”
Also on Thursday, the SecTrans launched a new “Faces of Distracted Driving” video campaign that features people who have been killed or lost loved ones because of inattentive drivers. The video features heartwrenching stories of children killed in crashes because of text messaging, and new videos are expected to be added every few weeks, according to the New York Times.
More than 5,500 people were killed last year by distracted drivers, and another 500,000 were injured, according to the Department of Transportation. LaHood has said it is never safe to talk on a cell phone while driving, hands-free or not, because it is a “cognitive distraction.”
Incidentally, a lot of people seem to agree with this sentiment — a new poll released Thursday shows nearly two-thirds of American support a national ban on the use of cell phones while driving, even if the driver is using a hands-free device. But the poll didn’t ask how people feel about government-issued mobile phone scramblers or other disabling devices.
finally a reasonable idea coming out of DC
nothing more dangerous then a driver's eyes off the road and hands off the wheel
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What about a passeneger in the car.
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What about a passeneger in the car.
majority of cell calls are NOT an emergency
if so, pull over to use phone.
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before cell phones we used phone booths and the like
unless the phone booth was in your car...you pulled over and made your 'important' call
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Are they going to jam gps signals?
I swear, this govt is george bush X 50.
true!!!!!!!
;D
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majority of cell calls are NOT an emergency
if so, pull over to use phone.
he was talking about passengers in the car using a phone. this doesn't answer that. plus with this jamming you won't even get the call and be able to pull over. You might just keep driving on while family is trying to reach you with an emergency...
I don't like people using their phones and driving either, but this is stupid and overreaching.
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Retarded.
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The only two obama voters on this board I have any respect for is bf and hugo.
At least they are honest about what the hell is going on.
The rest of you are pathetic for your silence.
I would be pissed if i voted for Obama.
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he was talking about passengers in the car using a phone. this doesn't answer that. plus with this jamming you won't even get the call and be able to pull over. You might just keep driving on while family is trying to reach you with an emergency...
I don't like people using their phones and driving either, but this is stupid and overreaching.
no kidding? ::)
99.999% of cell calls are BS and not an emergency
if you so choose.... pull over and let your passenger 'chit chat'
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Retarded.
it'll take all of 5 minutes for automakers to "rescue" us and deliver a car with built-in phones which will function as part of the dashboard.
Of course, we all trust that won't be abused by the govt, don't we fellahs?
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it'll take all of 5 minutes for automakers to "rescue" us and deliver a car with built-in phones which will function as part of the dashboard.
Of course, we all trust that won't be abused by the govt, don't we fellahs?
Good grief. You're clearly obsessed with Sarah Palin. Just read about "Palin Derangement Syndrome." You might want to read up on it.
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Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, the nation’s preeminent anti-distracted-driving crusader, said in an interview on MSNBC yesterday that federal officials are looking at technology to disable cell phones inside cars.
“I think it will be done,” LaHood said. “I think the technology is there and I think you’re going to see the technology become adaptable in automobiles to disable these cell phones. We need to do a lot more if were going to save lives.”
Also on Thursday, the SecTrans launched a new “Faces of Distracted Driving” video campaign that features people who have been killed or lost loved ones because of inattentive drivers. The video features heartwrenching stories of children killed in crashes because of text messaging, and new videos are expected to be added every few weeks, according to the New York Times.
More than 5,500 people were killed last year by distracted drivers, and another 500,000 were injured, according to the Department of Transportation. LaHood has said it is never safe to talk on a cell phone while driving, hands-free or not, because it is a “cognitive distraction.”
Incidentally, a lot of people seem to agree with this sentiment — a new poll released Thursday shows nearly two-thirds of American support a national ban on the use of cell phones while driving, even if the driver is using a hands-free device. But the poll didn’t ask how people feel about government-issued mobile phone scramblers or other disabling devices.
finally a reasonable idea coming out of DC
nothing more dangerous then a driver's eyes off the road and hands off the whee
I know that you still don't own a cell phone and call the three people you know outside of the internet from a payphone, but most other people have lives and jobs and important things to do. This moronic douchebag is a great example of why the Obama presidency has been a disaster and a disgrace. I don't think Obama would be so despised if he had actually appointed some qualified, sane, competent, serious people to high ranking positions. From Holder, to Van Jones, Napolitano and now this scumbag-- it's become a comedy of unqualified, incompetent and insane people trying their best to make America as unlivable as possible.
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How can anyone defend this crap?
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no kidding? ::)
99.999% of cell calls are BS and not an emergency
if you so choose.... pull over and let your passenger 'chit chat'
::) Are you fucking retarded? What does a passenger in the car talking have to do with the driver not using a cell phone? Are you saying that it's dangerious to have someone in the back seat talking on the phone? You're saying you should pull over to let other people in the car talk on the phone? You have to be the dumbest idiot posting here.
And how would you know how many emergencies there are? Plus it's not even illegal in many states to talk on the phone and drive. What gives you the right to tell other people they can't even recieve calls in a moving car. Many people use hands free, if you're saying that should be illegal, then you should be also saying it's illegal to talk while driving in a car...
retarded...
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::) Are you fucking retarded? What does a passenger in the car talking have to do with the driver not using a cell phone? Are you saying that it's dangerious to have someone in the back seat talking on the phone? You're saying you should pull over to let other people in the car talk on the phone? You have to be the dumbest idiot posting here.
And how would you know how many emergencies there are? Plus it's not even illegal in many states to talk on the phone and drive. What gives you the right to tell other people they can't even recieve calls in a moving car. Many people use hands free, if you're saying that should be illegal, then you should be also saying it's illegal to talk while driving in a car...
retarded...
LOL THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and x100 for the retard comment ;D
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LOL THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and x100 for the retard comment ;D
is this blacken's gimmick? If I remember right?
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Nah Cohiba is really Shanaynay Jenkins aka Benny Blanco
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I wonder if these jammers will work if the car is turned off and how this is going to work.
This is a horrible idea and I spoke to two obama cultists today who thought I was making this up. I am sending them this link.
What about volunteer firemen ?
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is this blacken's gimmick? If I remember right?
It's Mons Venus.
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first thing people would do is cut that shit right out of their car, the net would be filled with instructionals. So it would be a total waste of money that would make cars more expensive for something that's going to get clipped out of the car anyway.
Plus, if it's true that the government can access phones to listen to anyone anywhere, NSA and FBI are not going to like losing that ability while people are diving :D haha, terrible... lol...
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Good. Fuck you people. Get off your goddamn cell phones and drive.
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you can make calls through on-star, would this disable on-star?
What about the people that us hands free devices, should they also be shut down from talking even though they're not touching a phone? If yes does that mean drivers should not even talk whatsover when they are driving?
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No. Eyes forward. Quit jacking around and drive right.
Fucking hippies.
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No. Eyes forward. Quit jacking around and drive right.
Fucking hippies.
not looking at the road or "jacking around" have nothing to do with talking. So when you drive, you never say anything to others in the car? You're just like, "shut up, i'm driving?"
really?
hippies? where did that come from lol...
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Anybody who supports this should be shot and put out of their misery.
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This is only the freaking start.
Next thing will be a device reporting to the govt your mileage to send you a mileage tax. La Hood has already been talking about that.
Again - will this block GPS signals too?
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not looking at the road or "jacking around" have nothing to do with talking. So when you drive, you never say anything to others in the car? You're just like, "shut up, i'm driving?"
really?
hippies? where did that come from lol...
People in my car are required to sit down and shut up. No tomfoolery allowed.
I even took the radio out to eliminate the temptation.
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Well shit looks like the government is going to make all our decision for us. What a relief, we won't have to think anymore ::)
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I don't agree that this is a federal matter at all. The US Government shouldn't be involved in this, it's a state, city issue. However i do believe in the banning of using hand held cellphones whilst driving. Using bluetooth, handsfree etc is the only way one should be able to operate a cellphone whilst driving unless in an emergency. There are too many distracted drivers as it is for states to ignore this issue is foolish.
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I don't agree that this is a federal matter at all. The US Government shouldn't be involved in this, it's a state, city issue. However i do believe in the banning of using hand held cellphones whilst driving. Using bluetooth, handsfree etc is the only way one should be able to operate a cellphone whilst driving unless in an emergency. There are too many distracted drivers as it is for states to ignore this issue is foolish.
Ray LaHood is banning both in this KC.
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I was very much against the no cell phone driving laws. There are fucking stupid and don't make a significant impact. More ways to generate revenue brought to you by your local do gooders.
Now it's gets getting real over the top.
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Common sense left America 50 years ago. Welcome to Idiocracy.
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Good. Fuck you people. Get off your goddamn cell phones and drive.
Amen.
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Amen.
Amazing - you think the govt caused 9/11 yet you rust it to install various devices in your car regarding your phone.
Typical drug addicted doper.
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Amazing - you think the govt caused 9/11 yet you rust it to install various devices in your car regarding your phone.
Typical drug addicted doper.
Strange isn't it? 9/11 was an inside job according to some, yet they have no problem with body scanners/pat downs or the government jamming cell phones. Now if 9/11 was an inside job Mons, why would you accept the government violating your 4th amendment rights? I'll get some popcorn this should be good.
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I'm sort of torn on this issue as I'm a firm believer people should stop being distracted and pay attention to the fucking road. But where is this supposed to end? Banning make up in cars? How about banning food and drinks? How about banning radios that require you to manually change the station? Banning construction on the side of the road? Banning billboards? Banning hot chicks from walking down the sidewalk?
It's bullshit.
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What abut GPS ?
I use Sprint NAV via my blackberry vs getting a Nav system.
Will that be jammed too?
What a complete clusterfuck.
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Thats some fucked up shit. I use Bluetooth
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Thats some fucked up shit. I use Bluetooth
Looks like he wants to ban that to.
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The only two obama voters on this board I have any respect for is bf and hugo.
At least they are honest about what the hell is going on.
The rest of you are pathetic for your silence.
Bitch shut up. you dont respect me because i out all of your lying ass hyperbole ass threads.
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Bitch shut up. you dont respect me because i out all of your lying ass hyperbole ass threads.
I respect you as a person, but not as a voter. As a voter - you are on the level of Peggy and Julio as far as I can tell. Sad but true.
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I wonder if these jammers will work if the car is turned off and how this is going to work.
This is a horrible idea and I spoke to two obama cultists today who thought I was making this up. I am sending them this link.
What about volunteer firemen ?
Dude your just seraching for shit of the 95 kazillion calls made on the road, about 0.001 percent are valid, even if it's an emergency, what are they gonna do just fly through traffic?
I'm not for big government intervention but this shit is a serious issue. What else are they to do just sit by and what people get killed because of tech, or have cops on the road burdening people will cell phone checks etc. This makes sense. It's unnivasive and mostly fair. The high ways are a no phone zone, not complicated, there goverment paid for in the first place this isn't like it's someone's private home, it's the people roads and people are dieing.
I'd prefer if simply cell phone companies would simple knock out just the drivers, but regardless, people abused the system it can't go much farther.
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Dude your just seraching for shit of the 95 kazillion calls made on the road, about 0.001 percent are valid, even if it's an emergency, what are they gonna do just fly through traffic?
I'm not for big government intervention but this shit is a serious issue. What else are they to do just sit by and what people get killed because of tech, or have cops on the road burdening people will cell phone checks etc. This makes sense. It's unnivasive and mostly fair. The high ways are a no phone zone, not complicated, there goverment paid for in the first place this isn't like it's someone's private home, it's the people roads and people are dieing.
I'd prefer if simply cell phone companies would simple knock out just the drivers, but regardless, people abused the system it can't go much farther.
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You people deserve chains and slavery. I'm serious - who the fuck are you to say what call is serious or not?
Guess what - when hundreds of cars now are changing lanes and crash while trying to get o the shoulder to take a call - what stupid ass regulation are you going to propose?
Will incoming calls register or will it only be outgoing calls?
What about business people who rel upon phones?
What about service techs and salespeople?
You nanny state fags need to form your own country and go make your childproof utopia somewhere else.
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You people deserve chains and slavery. I'm serious - who the fuck are you to say what call is serious or not?
Guess what - when hundreds of cars now are changing lanes and crash while trying to get o the shoulder to take a call - what stupid ass regulation are you going to propose?
Will incoming calls register or will it only be outgoing calls?
What about business people who rel upon phones?
What about service techs and salespeople?
You nanny state fags need to form your own country and go make your childproof utopia somewhere else.
NAnny state fags lol whatever dude. I'm pretty liberatarian about most shit. However driving on goverement paid for roads isn't your right to do whatever you want. IF you wanna save lives(maybe your ideals are more important than peoples live) than cell phones gotta be taken off the roads. It's not rocket science, what would you do start enforcing police checks of all drivers. Stop with the ancedotel excuses or "what ifs". This is serious shit. And please don't start preaching that peopel should take responsibilty for their own driving, if it's legal to talk on phones people will do it. Your boss calls your not gonna not answer because it's not "safe".
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NAnny state fags lol whatever dude. I'm pretty liberatarian about most shit. However driving on goverement paid for roads isn't your right to do whatever you want. IF you wanna save lives(maybe your ideals are more important than peoples live) than cell phones gotta be taken off the roads. It's not rocket science, what would you do start enforcing police checks of all drivers. Stop with the ancedotel excuses or "what ifs". This is serious shit. And please don't start preaching that peopel should take responsibilty for their own driving, if it's legal to talk on phones people will do it. Your boss calls your not gonna not answer because it's not "safe".
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You are not a libertarian, period.
What next - BAN CONVERSATIONS WITH PASSENGRS?
How about we ban reading a map while in the car?
Or how about looking at chicks on the side of the road or advertisements on billboards?
And are you ok with the Govt installing a mileage tax device in your car?
hope obama tries this - he thinks the Tea parties were bad? Wait - you ait seen nothing yet.
FINALLY - I CAN END ALL DEATHS ON THE ROAD - STOP DRIVING ALTOGETHER!
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I'm against all government intervention, but I would like to see cell phones taken away from drivers. It use to be that if the person in front of you was driving erattic, they were probably elderly or maybe drunk. Now, 9 times out of 10, they're on their cell phone, so it's a huge danger.
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What about for cops who talk to their buddies while driving?
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or have cops on the road burdening people will cell phone checks etc.
There are motocrycle cops who do this all over LA already.
there goverment paid for in the first place this isn't like it's someone's private home, it's the people roads and people are dieing.
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And who pays the government to fund the roads and infrastructure? We do.
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Here is a pic of obama and his power crazed CZAR. Looks a little gay no?
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Anyone buying into this malarchy needs their freaking head examined.
First its going to be this - next - gas mileage monitors to send you a mileage tax to combat global warming.
Wait - La Hood is already talking about this.
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Here is a pic of obama and his power crazed CZAR. Looks a little gay no?
Ha, ha, looks like Obama is trying to sneak up on him.
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Ha, ha, looks like Obama is trying to sneak up on him.
He wants to play - "lets hide the jamaican patti" with La Hood.
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why are people still posting in here? it's cut and dry it's not a federal issue so they should drop it. Besides it does say considering doesn't mean they are going to do it or get away with it.
End of thread.
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You people deserve chains and slavery. I'm serious - who the fuck are you to say what call is serious or not?
Guess what - when hundreds of cars now are changing lanes and crash while trying to get o the shoulder to take a call - what stupid ass regulation are you going to propose?
Will incoming calls register or will it only be outgoing calls?
What about business people who rel upon phones?
What about service techs and salespeople?
You nanny state fags need to form your own country and go make your childproof utopia somewhere else.
Excellent post.
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I'll say it again....
If you are for this bullshit, please put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger as soon as possible. You do not deserve to live if you are that fucking retarded. Period.
On second thought.... forget the gun in your mouth idea. Please do something to kill yourself that is far more painful and takes much longer. You deserve to suffer greatly if you are in favor of this draconian horse shit. Seriously.... I hope you die.
Thank you, that is all.
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why are people still posting in here? it's cut and dry it's not a federal issue so they should drop it. Besides it does say considering doesn't mean they are going to do it or get away with it.
End of thread.
The fact that its illegal to begin with is complete bull shit.
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The fact that its illegal to begin with is complete bull shit.
Like I said earlier, I'm really torn on this issue. I do agree, it's bullshit, but I can't tell you how many times I've almost been hit by some dumb bitch on a cell phone not paying attention. The drivers in LA are bad enough as it is, add cell phones to the mix and you have incidents like the one with Brandi a few years back where she rear ended a guy and killed him while texting on her phone.
I have no problem with people using cell phones in the car, responsibly. This just isn't happening though, so instead of bitching about it, what suggestions do you guys have to fix this problem? I'm asking in earnest here.
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Like I said earlier, I'm really torn on this issue. I do agree, it's bullshit, but I can't tell you how many times I've almost been hit by some dumb bitch on a cell phone not paying attention. The drivers in LA are bad enough as it is, add cell phones to the mix and you have incidents like the one with Brandi a few years back where she rear ended a guy and killed him while texting on her phone.
I have no problem with people using cell phones in the car, responsibly. This just isn't happening though, so instead of bitching about it, what suggestions do you guys have to fix this problem? I'm asking in earnest here.
We are in America, and are supposed to have FREEDOM and CHOICE. Now, IF this is indeed as serious an issue as you claim it is (I don't think it is, based on the studies I've seen in various media and online, and my own personal experience.... but admittedly, MO has a let less traffic and people than CA), and it DOES prove to be a serious enough issue to merit legislation, then let private industry, innovation, entrepreneurship, and intelligent individuals come up with solutions, and put it to a VOTE. It should NOT be rammed down our throats by an out of control draconian administration that is hellbent on taking away our freedoms.
The bullshit they are proposing is textbook "Big Brother" and likely has far more sinister motives than "protecting drivers".
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You are not a libertarian, period.
What next - BAN CONVERSATIONS WITH PASSENGRS?
How about we ban reading a map while in the car?
Or how about looking at chicks on the side of the road or advertisements on billboards?
And are you ok with the Govt installing a mileage tax device in your car?
hope obama tries this - he thinks the Tea parties were bad? Wait - you ait seen nothing yet.
FINALLY - I CAN END ALL DEATHS ON THE ROAD - STOP DRIVING ALTOGETHER!
Whatever dude you either don't drive are full of shit. This ain't a big surprise, or your just out of touch who knows. This ain't some theorectical freeedom America freedom crap.
If your against this lets just legalize cocaine, if your for that then fine I'll agree on "princinple" until then it's a bunch of bull shit. Something gotta be done. your completely out of touch if you don't understand that this is a serious issue, and it's not like the roads, are private nor, are you safe from other drivers while on the road. seriously dude stop posting on here so much and look into the real world.
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333 no one here takes you seriously
If obama came out saying he is against a cell phone ban, you would start posting dumb ass youtubes about people who died in car accidents who were talking on the cell phone, posting stats and highlighting then
true story
For the record.. im against all that shit
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Yeah - you are a libertarian my fucking ass.
I am sure I can examine your life and find 15 different activities you engage in I can easily find justification to regulate, legislate, mandate, and criminalize.
And BTW - great job addressing others questions - typial of big brother, nanny state, authortarianm apologists who want to be told where to go, what to do, when to go, and what to eat and think.
Pathetic. Go move to NK.
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333 no one here takes you seriously
If obama came out saying he is against a cell phone ban, you would start posting dumb ass youtubes about people who died in car accidents who were talking on the cell phone, posting stats and highlighting then
true story
For the record.. im against all that shit
Ha ha ha - are you fucking kidding moron? you are one of the only idiots still supporting obama and you have the balls to say I am no taken seriously? Priceless.
Ha ha - remember - you are the ignorant jackass who supported obamacare, you are the ignorant dolt who supported the stim bill, you are the uninformed goofball who supports QE2, you are the mis-informed dope who supported terrorist trials in civilian court. ha ha ha.
That is what I find so laughable about far leftists like yourself, no amount of failure will ever change your mind. And guess what - we all know why. ts called being a 95%er. Sad but true. Hate me for saying it - but we all know the reality going on here.
ObamaCare turns out to be a fraud - blame Palin and fox news.
Stim Bill failed - blame the GOP
Terrorist trials result in a mess - well at least he got convicted of something right?.
Cap & Trade proves to be a disastrous mess - We were too stupid to really know what would happen.
and on and on and on .
Bro - you were the same 95%er who though the general public still likes Obama and the far left loons and still deny the reality of the electoral tsunami that took place rejecting this nanny state, big brother, marxist crap.
Ha ha ha- and you call me out?
I can wait till 2012. The GOP can run Spongebob/Barney the Purple Dinosaur and destroy Obama and the rest of the marxist left.
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lol i didnt read all that crap..
But i said i dont support Obamacare many times.. no public option
i dont even know what QE2 means
and you still didnt tell me what you would cut from stim bill
and.. we arent in a recession no more.. according to the definition.
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lol i didnt read all that crap..
But i said i dont support Obamacare many times.. no public option
i dont even know what QE2 means
and you still didnt tell me what you would cut from stim bill
and.. we arent in a recession no more.. according to the definition.
ha ha ha - Serious?
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1) Make it a one-year prison sentence for video verified non-emergency, texting-while-driving.
2) Enforce it.
I guarantee you - once some d-bag 19 year old with "drama" spends a year behind bars for LOLing at someone's facebook status at 55 mph, you'll see a lot less people doing it.
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1) Make it a one-year prison sentence for video verified non-emergency, texting-while-driving.
2) Enforce it.
I guarantee you - once some d-bag 19 year old with "drama" spends a year behind bars for LOLing at someone's facebook status at 55 mph, you'll see a lot less people doing it.
I prefer that by far than the govt installing a jammer in everyones' car.
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I prefer that by far than the govt installing a jammer in everyones' car.
I agree.
it's as bad as drunk driving - cause at least the drunk has eyes on teh road. I see it every single day - people missing green lights, drifting, or speeding - cause of the damn iphone in their hand.
When you're driving a heavy vehicle at 50 mph - you're a speeding bullet with a lot of mass. To put your eyes down to tweet or hit on some chick is some seriously selfish shit.
And this isn't a libertarian affront either - we're not denying drivers any right. They're denying many people a right to life.
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We are in America, and are supposed to have FREEDOM and CHOICE. Now, IF this is indeed as serious an issue as you claim it is (I don't think it is, based on the studies I've seen in various media and online, and my own personal experience.... but admittedly, MO has a let less traffic and people than CA), and it DOES prove to be a serious enough issue to merit legislation, then let private industry, innovation, entrepreneurship, and intelligent individuals come up with solutions, and put it to a VOTE. It should NOT be rammed down our throats by an out of control draconian administration that is hellbent on taking away our freedoms.
The bullshit they are proposing is textbook "Big Brother" and likely has far more sinister motives than "protecting drivers".
I'm just going off my own personal experience and I know I'm not the only one who's had experiences like I have. Is it as rampant as some claim? I don't know, I haven't seen any hard data as to how many accidents/deaths that can be equivocally attributed to cell phone use.
I do agree with your other point about this being rammed down our throats. I believe there is a much better way to approach this. We have a ton of very smart people who, if put to the task, could come up with something better than cell phone jamming in the car.
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I prefer that by far than the govt installing a jammer in everyones' car.
This just prooves your so out of touch it ain't fit again your were called out your simply defiant of anything obama, does. Ironcially you've never made the connection that the man I vote for was for private option to be added into canada, and you think I'm some obama lover :D
I wouldn't mind stiffer laws, but than you'd bitch that there expanding goverment/police role's into mobile nannies. But you've admitted in the past that your just trolling, because you love politics so fucking much which is just wierder than anything else.
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This just prooves your so out of touch it ain't fit again your were called out your simply defiant of anything obama, does. Ironcially you've never made the connection that the man I vote for was for private option to be added into canada, and you think I'm some obama lover :D
I wouldn't mind stiffer laws, but than you'd bitch that there expanding goverment/police role's into mobile nannies. But you've admitted in the past that your just trolling, because you love politics so fucking much which is just wierder than anything else.
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Yes, I hate Obama and everyone who supports him. However, before running your yap, why dont you please sho me one post ever supporting nanny state shit under Bush.
If you can't STFU and go back to the G&O board and post your nonsensical pap.
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ha ha ha - Serious?
Yeah..
you know i was at a retirement home with my grandpa... bunch of swat came in wrecking shit.. you think obama called them?
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Yes, I hate Obama and everyone who supports him. However, before running your yap, why dont you please sho me one post ever supporting nanny state shit under Bush.
If you can't STFU and go back to the G&O board and post your nonsensical pap.
But I don't give a fuck about your trivial partisan shit, lets stick to the actual issue, you think it's better to have people spending a year in prison, than forcing people riding on goverment paid for highways to resort back to driving like they did in 1995.
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But I don't give a fuck about your trivial partisan shit, lets stick to the actual issue, you think it's better to have people spending a year in prison, than forcing people riding on goverment paid for highways to resort back to driving like they did in 1995.
Wow the government paid for the roads, where did they get their money ::)
(http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/small/0910/ha-ha-ha-bitch-dumb-and-irratated-demotivational-poster-1255885768.jpg)
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Yeah..
you know i was at a retirement home with my grandpa... bunch of swat came in wrecking shit.. you think obama called them?
^3333 answer me^
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But I don't give a fuck about your trivial partisan shit, lets stick to the actual issue, you think it's better to have people spending a year in prison, than forcing people riding on goverment paid for highways to resort back to driving like they did in 1995.
ha ha - there were car phones in 1995 no?
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Wow the government paid for the roads, where did they get their money ::)
(http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/small/0910/ha-ha-ha-bitch-dumb-and-irratated-demotivational-poster-1255885768.jpg)
Wow that's insightful, yet your trying to claim it's not fair when a elected official, does what the people want with their roads what's your point.
ha ha - there were car phones in 1995 no?
Yes and there was drunk people 3000 years ago, yet it is only recently that the issue has escalated to a full blown issue. Please get out of the land of theorectical reasoning for once, it's common sense that car crashed are getting caused left right and center by cell phone users.
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Should be ban GPS in car too?
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Hey deadbeat - do you even own a car?
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Hey deadbeat - do you even own a car?
i got a bike.. like bike-cycle...lmao
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Hey deadbeat - do you even own a car?
A deadbeat? as I've said before I'm a student my parents paid my tuition after I decided getting loans out of guilt is just plane silly, why the fuck would I have a car on my folks dollar? Your more reactionary, than a fucking women on a period.
Gps's haven't had a known track record of causing accidents. Christ dude this is getting old. Your like a broken record. Your not even making logical sense. We all know cell phones causes accidents it's common sense. It's not an overly complicated idea.
Either your for nannystate like police, or you go through a simple passive way of keeping our roads funtioning.
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A deadbeat? as I've said before I'm a student my parents paid my tuition after I decided getting loans out of guilt is just plane silly, why the fuck would I have a car on my folks dollar? Your more reactionary, than a fucking women on a period.
Gps's haven't had a known track record of causing accidents. Christ dude this is getting old. Your like a broken record. Your not even making logical sense. We all know cell phones causes accidents it's common sense. It's not an overly complicated idea.
Either your for nannystate like police, or you go through a simple passive way of keeping our roads funtioning.
So you don't even own a car, pay your own bills, or act as a productive member of society yet feel educated and wise enough to tell everyone else how to live?
Typical. Get a job leech.
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So you don't even own a car, pay your own bills, or act as a productive member of society yet feel educated and wise enough to tell everyone else how to live?
Typical. Get a job leech.
So want me to drop out of school, and get a job too proove your point? dude your justgetting into name calling. You've lost the arguement, just give up.
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So want me to drop out of school, and get a job too proove your point? dude your justgetting into name calling. You've lost the arguement, just give up.
Yeah - I lost the argument to a delusional leech who does not even own a caryet feels wie enough based on decades of driving experience to tell others who to live. ::) ::)
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Yeah - I lost the argument to a delusional leech who does not even own a caryet feels wie enough based on decades of driving experience to tell others who to live. ::) ::)
See this is your problem it don't take years of driving experience to know an obvious fact. There's loads of research backing it up despite, a persons vested interest in covering that shit up in an accident, but this is why I can't bare posting in here, even if I proove you wrong you simply keep posting until whoever gets bored of you.
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Wow that's insightful, yet your trying to claim it's not fair when a elected official, does what the people want with their roads what's your point.
Yes and there was drunk people 3000 years ago, yet it is only recently that the issue has escalated to a full blown issue. Please get out of the land of theorectical reasoning for once, it's common sense that car crashed are getting caused left right and center by cell phone users.
Whats my point? I haven't seen some public outrage demanding the banning of cell phones in cars. So it would seem that the elected official is doing what he wants. Besides this is a state issue, not a federal issue, have a clue before you post a bunch of stupid shit.
Oh please post some evidence of said cell phone related accidents. You saying so doesn't amount to a lump of dried up dog shit.
Besides you are a canuck, why don't you worry about Canadian roads and cell phones.
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Like I said earlier, I'm really torn on this issue. I do agree, it's bullshit, but I can't tell you how many times I've almost been hit by some dumb bitch on a cell phone not paying attention. The drivers in LA are bad enough as it is, add cell phones to the mix and you have incidents like the one with Brandi a few years back where she rear ended a guy and killed him while texting on her phone.
I have no problem with people using cell phones in the car, responsibly. This just isn't happening though, so instead of bitching about it, what suggestions do you guys have to fix this problem? I'm asking in earnest here.
I drive a lot. I have never seen anyone driving stupid while talking not a cell phone. I am not saying it doesnt happen, but the idea that a cell phone distracts a driver IMO is dumb because. Talking to or scolding kids, eating food, finding the right radio station, scrolling through your playlist etc. All do the same thing.
Now texting is a different story. That should be illegal.
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So want me to drop out of school, and get a job too proove your point? dude your justgetting into name calling. You've lost the arguement, just give up.
333 *lost* the argument?
Um, no..... he's thoroughly beating the shit outta you fascists.
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if he's just a student starting out maybe we're being a little harsh? I mean calling him a deadbeat and all for not having a job or car yet... He's got a lot to learn and think about like we all did at that age, attacking him might not be the best way to explain why he's wrong.
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It had nothing to do with this thread. This idiot decided to attack me on G and O for some reason.
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oh
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333 *lost* the argument?
Um, no..... he's thoroughly beating the shit outta you fascists.
hi 33333
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I don't have any gimmicks.
Also - I was thinking about this thread whle driving to work.
Speeding kills thousands a year no? Why doesnt the govt install a chip to slow you down when it feels you are going too fast?
Drunk Driving kills thousands a year no? Why doesnt the govt install a brethalizer fr EVERYONE to turn the car on?
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It's all very simple the government identifies something that may cause a small percentage of accidents, then to gain more power and control penalizes everyone for that small percent. They have been doing this sort of shit for a long time, the old give um an inch and they take a mile mentality.
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Why doesn't the government make 2nd offenses punishable by a 5 year suspension ?
Why doesn't the government spend more money to prevent road hazards?
How about hands free radios?
Yet we got this stupid shit.
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Because its not about fixing anything, half the time the government is trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist. It's about control plain and simple. To many of these people have a god complex.
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Because its not about fixing anything, half the time the government is trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist. It's about control plain and simple. To many of these people have a god complex.
It's the "do-gooders" we need to muzzle.
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Rear-view cameras on cars could become mandatory (LA Times)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 12/4/2010 | Jerry Hirsch
The federal government wants automakers to install back-up cameras in all new vehicles starting in late 2014.
The plan, announced Friday, received a strong endorsement from insurance industry and other analysts and is likely to get some level of support from car manufacturers.
"There is no more tragic accident than for a parent or caregiver to back out of a garage or driveway and kill or injure an undetected child playing behind the vehicle," Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said. "The changes we are proposing today will help drivers see into those blind zones directly behind vehicles to make sure it is safe to back up."
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no they shouldn't be ^^
use your eyes & 2% of your brain to reverse without electronic aides.
it's simple, if you can reverse a semi/tractor with no camera you can do it on any other vehicle.
use your eyes/mirrors.
electronics have made people sloppy drivers.
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Its another stupid law to pent stupid people from making mistakes.
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To the moron that said this measure will save lives-- Why not reduce the speed limit to 10mph? That would save lives also. In fact, I think the United States should force car manufacturers to keep their cars from going over 10mph so people dont even have the option of speeding.
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Late to this one... Let them do it.
I guarantee that technology will find a way to subvert it as well.
Fuck this shit... Fuck anyone who thinks this is a good idea or should be done.
Fascists.
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LaHood: Automakers should block texts, tweets and browsing
By Ashley Halsey III, Published: February 16
Drivers won’t be able to text, browse, tweet or dial on factory-installed devices if auto manufacturers follow new federal guidelines to disable the gadgets while the wheels are rolling.
In announcing the latest step in his campaign against distracted driving Thursday, U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said the government might next extend the guidelines to cover virtually every portable electronic device that could find its way into a vehicle.
“These guidelines are a major step forward in identifying real solutions to tackle the issue of distracted driving for drivers of all ages,” said LaHood, who has made distracted driving the marquee issue of his tenure as secretary.
Federal statistics show that 5,474 people died and an estimated 448,000 were injured in 2009 in crashes in which distracted driving played a role. Research has shown that drivers using hand-held devices are four times more likely to get into a serious crash, and that hands-free cellphones aren’t much safer because just talking on the phone reduces the brain power focused on driving by 37 percent.
The new federal guidelines, published Thursday in the Federal Register and subject to a 60-day period of public comment, recommend that manufacturers make it impossible for drivers to perform many functions while a vehicle is in motion, including: to send or look at text messages; browse the Internet; tweet or use social media such as Facebook; enter information in navigation systems; enter 10-digit phone numbers; or receive any type of text information of more than 30 characters unrelated to driving.
“The devil’s in the details,” said Robert Strassburger, vice president for vehicle safety at the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, as he awaited release of the 177-page guidelines.
But Strassburger said automakers have been eager to add distracted-driving safety features to electronic devices they install in vehicles. He said the industry is committed to “the two-second rule.”
“Basically, any task behind the wheel that takes more than two seconds to complete or can’t be completed in a couple of brief chunks would be locked out or would be prohibited,” Strassburger said.
His alliance put out a formal statement in advance of the release of the guidelines, pointing out that the industry has been working under an evolving set of self-imposed electronics guidelines for a decade.
“This is a case of automakers getting caught doing something right,” the statement said.
It said the industry has sought to balance consumer demand with safety.
“Consumers expect to have access to new technology, so integrating and adapting this technology to enable safe driving is the solution,” the alliance said in the statement.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) will hold hearings on the proposed guidelines next month in Washington, Chicago and Los Angeles.
Under the guidelines, passenger use of electronic devices would not be restricted, although no one could enter a new address in a factory-installed GPS unit unless the vehicle was stopped.
“GPS is a technology that supports the driver,” said NHTSA Administrator David Strickland. “Remember, before GPS, what were people doing? Holding up maps with one hand and trying to look at a map while trying to drive. We think that is a much more dangerous situation.”
Technology has been developed by several private companies that would allow car makers to restrict driver use of electronics. Strickland said his agency had not determined how much it would cost to add those features on factory-installed devices.
Many new vehicles already come with restricted electronic equipment, such as navigation devices that won’t allow a driver to enter a destination unless the car is stopped.
Barbara Harsha, executive director of the the Governors Highway Safety Association, a coalition of state safety officials, called the guidelines a good first step.
“DOT is on the right path,” Harsha said. “We particularly like the guideline for disabling devices that text and surf the Internet.”
The federal government has the authority to issue safety guidelines or mandates for auto manufacturers. If the guidelines were to apply to non-factory items — smartphones, tablets or other devices — it would fall to state governments to impose any restrictions.
LaHood has used the bully pulpit to get states to pass laws restricting cellphone calls and text messaging, and in the past federal authorities have imposed their will on issues like blood-alcohol levels and seat belts by threatening to withhold federal funds from non-compliant states.
“It gives the states that haven’t passed laws yet the momentum,” LaHood said.
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what if there's kids/passengers in the back who have a ps vita or tablet/phone and it keeps them occupied while driving?
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what if there's kids/passengers in the back who have a ps vita or tablet/phone and it keeps them occupied while driving?
don't ask the government to think logically... it's not possible lol...