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Title: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 21, 2010, 07:22:49 AM
I think this will be a good barometer for who the top team in the nfc is. At the very least its a battle for 1st place in the nfc east. I think both of these teams are better than ATL, but i think NO and GB are right there too.

Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 21, 2010, 08:34:11 AM
Philly 31
NYG 20
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 21, 2010, 08:45:02 AM
philly by 11 huh..
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 21, 2010, 11:19:58 AM
philly by 11 huh..

E-Cry will have a couple of dumb turnovers within his own 20yd line.....
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: tonymctones on November 21, 2010, 01:01:13 PM
I actually think the giants come out and win this one...contain vick, good coverage down field...

Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: mass 04 on November 21, 2010, 02:10:52 PM
28-17 philly
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 22, 2010, 04:59:45 AM
28-17 philly

Dang Mass.....I was proud of how close my pick was, but you almost nailed it...... :o
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 22, 2010, 05:30:51 AM
tough one to swallow. Could not ask for much more of game from the defense with all those turnovers the offense giants gift-wrapped for philly. Getting really sick of these turnovers. Its just old now.
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 22, 2010, 05:42:03 AM
tough one to swallow. Could not ask for much more of game from the defense with all those turnovers the offense giants gift-wrapped for philly. Getting really sick of these turnovers. Its just old now.

Someone predicted the E-Cry turnovers in this thread......who was that genius ?  ;D
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 22, 2010, 05:44:57 AM
Some guy whos trying to hit 20k before christmas  :o

how many turnovers did he have? I remember the pathetic dive attempt. Also the one off the helmet.

hes had literally about 10 int's that were freak occurences.
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: CalvinH on November 22, 2010, 05:47:40 AM
Some guy whos trying to hit 20k before christmas  :o

how many turnovers did he have? I remember the pathetic dive attempt.


3 could have been 4 but it was re-recovered :-[
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 22, 2010, 05:48:09 AM
the int off the helmet, the dive and what else?

now i remember, the int where samuel jumped the route, the dive and..?

cant even remember from last night. Im conditioned for this shit  :-\
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 22, 2010, 05:56:00 AM
Some guy whos trying to hit 20k before christmas  :o

how many turnovers did he have? I remember the pathetic dive attempt. Also the one off the helmet.

hes had literally about 10 int's that were freak occurences.

20k ?  Pfffft, I'm going to 25k baby!  Go big or go home !!!!

Excluding the SB, Eli played his balls off in that game, he has been a VERY avg QB who is mistake prone.  Especially on his own half of the field, which is unacceptable. 
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 22, 2010, 06:02:57 AM
very average?

bit of a reach.
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 22, 2010, 06:12:58 AM
very average?

bit of a reach.

149 career TD's (passing and rushing) and 131 TO's (that includes ints and fumbles lost).......nothing spectacular......like I said avg excpet for the SB run.....and he's had the benefit of a great defense throughout is entire career, except last season.  Career rating of 80.2, nothing to get excited about....and his completion pct has gone down every single season.....avg player.  Not like that is a bad thing, hell plenty of teams would be happy with avg right now.
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 22, 2010, 06:26:37 AM
144 passing td's to 101 int's.

hes completion percentage has gone UP every single year. Not sure where youre getting your stats from.

Great defense throughout his entire career? LOL hardly. The defense has been up and down, and regardless, its a non starter when judging quarterbacks. Sounds to me like you have a personal beef with the guy. You just dont like him.

Coming off 4000 yards 27/14 last year, not exactly what i call "very average"
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: body88 on November 22, 2010, 06:58:47 AM
144 passing td's to 101 int's.

hes completion percentage has gone UP every single year. Not sure where youre getting your stats from.

Great defense throughout his entire career? LOL hardly. The defense has been up and down, and regardless, its a non starter when judging quarterbacks. Sounds to me like you have a personal beef with the guy. You just dont like him.

Coming off 4000 yards 27/14 last year, not exactly what i call "very average"


It could have been worse, his brother threw three int's yesterday, including the one that lost the game.
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 22, 2010, 07:03:59 AM
144 passing td's to 101 int's.

hes completion percentage has gone UP every single year. Not sure where youre getting your stats from.

Great defense throughout his entire career? LOL hardly. The defense has been up and down, and regardless, its a non starter when judging quarterbacks. Sounds to me like you have a personal beef with the guy. You just dont like him.

Coming off 4000 yards 27/14 last year, not exactly what i call "very average"


Oh, I make no bones about it, can't stand the little bitch for the way he didn't want to play in SD cause his "daddy" told him not to.  No player should be allowed to pick where he wants to play, or not in the draft.  ;D



But fact remains, he's almost 50/50 for TD's/TO's for his career.....you have to count fumbles, because he's great at them.  And outside of last year the defense has been very good for his whole career, and of courrse its had a bearing because it's made his job much easier than if the def stunk year in and year out..  The site I looked at had the comp pct listed from the present to past, So I screwed that up.  And one great seaason like last year doesn't sucddenly make him an elite QB.  He has 6 tds' and 9 int's this yea.  He's back on track to be avg.  Guy just lives off his brother being the best QB in the league.....outsside the SB, he is nothing special.
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: CalvinH on November 22, 2010, 07:28:08 AM
Gmen will be alright...they'll start getting their injured players back soon.
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 22, 2010, 07:29:24 AM
Gmen will be alright...they'll start getting their injured players back soon.

HAVE to cut down on to's.....its what has killed them.
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: CalvinH on November 22, 2010, 07:44:54 AM
HAVE to cut down on to's.....its what has killed them.



x2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: Fury on November 22, 2010, 09:39:06 AM
Giants should have had this game. Boley and Rolle are to blame as they apparently don't understand simple concepts like staying home and containing.
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 22, 2010, 11:20:57 AM

Oh, I make no bones about it, can't stand the little bitch for the way he didn't want to play in SD cause his "daddy" told him not to.  No player should be allowed to pick where he wants to play, or not in the draft.  ;D



But fact remains, he's almost 50/50 for TD's/TO's for his career.....you have to count fumbles, because he's great at them.  And outside of last year the defense has been very good for his whole career, and of courrse its had a bearing because it's made his job much easier than if the def stunk year in and year out..  The site I looked at had the comp pct listed from the present to past, So I screwed that up.  And one great seaason like last year doesn't sucddenly make him an elite QB.  He has 6 tds' and 9 int's this yea.  He's back on track to be avg.  Guy just lives off his brother being the best QB in the league.....outsside the SB, he is nothing special.

So if he fumbles a lot, by the logic youre using; pertaining to defense and its bearing on his career..that means he has a poor o-line and we should cut him some slack right?

it doesnt work like that.

let me correct you again, eli is 21/16 this year. Not 6/9.

6 strait seasons with 20+ td's

Hes an above average quarter back that is inconsistant at worst.
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: funk51 on November 22, 2010, 11:53:48 AM
Some guy whos trying to hit 20k before christmas  :o

how many turnovers did he have? I remember the pathetic dive attempt. Also the one off the helmet.

hes had literally about 10 int's that were freak occurences.
eli manning is a spaz like his brother neither know how to slide probably never played baseball. colts brought in rickey henderson to teach peyton but that helped about as much as when the philly 76 ers brought in lee haney to put muscle on 7 ft 6 in shawn bradley.
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 22, 2010, 01:26:41 PM
So if he fumbles a lot, by the logic youre using; pertaining to defense and its bearing on his career..that means he has a poor o-line and we should cut him some slack right?

it doesnt work like that.

let me correct you again, eli is 21/16 this year. Not 6/9.

6 strait seasons with 20+ td's

Hes an above average quarter back that is inconsistant at worst.


Great, correct me all you want.  20 TD's is nothing in the NFL now.....Jason Campbell had 20 last year.... ::)  He's 18th out of 33 QB's in QB rating right now.....hence avg.....and this is probably his best season, other than last year, statistically, of his career.  If he wasn't a Manning, nobody would care about him.
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: CalvinH on November 22, 2010, 06:53:22 PM
Hakeem Nicks is out 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 22, 2010, 07:12:23 PM
Hakeem Nicks is out 3 weeks.

Losing WR's at a record pace......Rivers has overcome having 4th string guys, so has Peyton.....lets see what Eli does...... 8)
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 22, 2010, 08:08:19 PM

Great, correct me all you want.  20 TD's is nothing in the NFL now.....Jason Campbell had 20 last year.... ::)  He's 18th out of 33 QB's in QB rating right now.....hence avg.....and this is probably his best season, other than last year, statistically, of his career.  If he wasn't a Manning, nobody would care about him.

Dont be mad your entire argument was negated by the fact that the numbers you presented were completely bogus.

6 strait years with 20 td's is nothing? Gotcha....(crickets)

How about not missing a start since his rookie debut 6 years ago? ill answer for you...thats nothing in the nfl.  ::)

He's durable as fuck. Oh yea i forgot..thats nothing in the nfl  ::)

your argument is a dumb one and you sound like a kid with his fingers in his ear screaming "LALALALA CANT HEAR YOU LALALA CANT HEAR YOU"
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 22, 2010, 08:16:30 PM
Dont be mad your entire argument was negated by the fact that the numbers you presented were completely bogus.

6 strait years with 20 td's is nothing? Gotcha....(crickets)

How about not missing a start since his rookie debut 6 years ago? ill answer for you...thats nothing in the nfl.  ::)

He's durable as fuck. Oh yea i forgot..thats nothing in the nfl  ::)

your argument is a dumb one and you sound like a kid with his fingers in his ear screaming "LALALALA CANT HEAR YOU LALALA CANT HEAR YOU"

Whatever.....Eli equal avg.....the numbers don't lie.....if he wasn't a Manning, he would be completely forgotten.....
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: CalvinH on November 23, 2010, 09:31:31 AM
Dont be mad your entire argument was negated by the fact that the numbers you presented were completely bogus.

6 strait years with 20 td's is nothing? Gotcha....(crickets)

How about not missing a start since his rookie debut 6 years ago? ill answer for you...thats nothing in the nfl.  ::)

He's durable as fuck. Oh yea i forgot..thats nothing in the nfl  ::)

your argument is a dumb one and you sound like a kid with his fingers in his ear screaming "LALALALA CANT HEAR YOU LALALA CANT HEAR YOU"



Don't worry about Showstoppa...he's a Chargers fan and the whole Eli not going to S.D. and instead going to the Gmen and winning a Superbowl hasn't gone over to well with him ;) :D
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 23, 2010, 11:12:34 AM


Don't worry about Showstoppa...he's a Chargers fan and the whole Eli not going to S.D. and instead going to the Gmen and winning a Superbowl hasn't gone over to well with him ;) :D

I stated that earlier, Clavin......go back to sleep.  ;D
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: funk51 on November 23, 2010, 11:54:45 AM
Whatever.....Eli equal avg.....the numbers don't lie.....if he wasn't a Manning, he would be completely forgotten.....
archie's boys both have a superbowl ring which is nothing to sneeze at that being said peyton  puts up monster numbers eli a little better than average. archie was a terrible quarterback who became a legend thanks to his sons.
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 23, 2010, 01:48:39 PM
archie's boys both have a superbowl ring which is nothing to sneeze at that being said peyton  puts up monster numbers eli a little better than average. archie was a terrible quarterback who became a legend thanks to his sons.

I agree on all counts.  I was cheering heavily for Eli and Giants, as much as it pained me, in the SB.......but Peytons a top 5 QB of all time when its all said and done.....Eli is his brother.....haha



As for Archie, he's who most of my ire is really directed at, as Eli was just a punk kid listening too much to daddy about the draft thing. 
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: CalvinH on November 24, 2010, 08:13:33 AM
Giants signed that reject wr Michael Clayton.
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 24, 2010, 09:16:57 AM
Giants signed that reject wr Michael Clayton.

I had him in fantasy ball for the very solid rookie or 2nd year he had and then unloaded him on some dope in our league.....hahaha

actually, I don't understand what happened to him....very odd to go from being that good that young to just sucking ass.
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: CalvinH on November 24, 2010, 09:44:42 AM
I had him in fantasy ball for the very solid rookie or 2nd year he had and then unloaded him on some dope in our league.....hahaha

actually, I don't understand what happened to him....very odd to go from being that good that young to just sucking ass.



He was playing in the USFL.
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: CalvinH on November 29, 2010, 07:09:30 AM
Nice comeback for the Gmen yesterday.


.....not one turnover :o :o :o
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 29, 2010, 08:24:17 AM
Nice comeback for the Gmen yesterday.


.....not one turnover :o :o :o

Did you see the Chargers manhandle the Colts as usual?  no homo   and Pitts was LUCKY, pure and simple, Johnson should have caught that TD.  Buffalo is a decent team just not getting any breaks at all.

Fox is gone at the end of the season in Carolina.....no doubt about it. 
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: CalvinH on November 29, 2010, 09:57:56 AM
Did you see the Chargers manhandle the Colts as usual?  no homo   and Pitts was LUCKY, pure and simple, Johnson should have caught that TD.  Buffalo is a decent team just not getting any breaks at all.

Fox is gone at the end of the season in Carolina.....no doubt about it. 



Hahaha,after the game Johnson blamed God for him dropping the ball ;D
Title: Re: Giants @ Eagles
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 29, 2010, 01:26:54 PM


Hahaha,after the game Johnson blamed God for him dropping the ball ;D

LOL....I heard that.  Perhaps mr. Johnson needs an ACL tear to show him who is boss?  ;D