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Military Pegs Hourly Air Force One Cost at $180G, as Obama Sets Travel Record
Published November 24, 2010 | FoxNews.com
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The average American could buy a house for the amount of money it takes to run Air Force One every hour.
The U.S. military has provided an updated estimate on that cost, first published by a taxpayer watchdog group and confirmed by FoxNews.com, and the number is staggering -- $181,757 per hour. That's the price tag for shuttling around President Obama, who, as it turns out, has spent more days abroad in his first two years than any other president.
Estimates over the years based on government reports and independent number-crunching have always reflected a steep cost for presidential travel, but the figure provided by the 89th Airlift Wing appears to be far higher than any previously reported. It was first published in a report this week on presidential travel by the National Taxpayers Union Foundation.
"It's astonishing. It's far higher than any other ... figure that's been reported on. It's very surprising, and of course it's just a fraction of the overall cost involved with presidential travel," said policy analyst Demian Brady, who wrote the study.
Master Sgt. Jeff Capenos, with the 89th Airlift Wing, told FoxNews.com the figure reflects operating costs ranging from fuel to engine and aircraft maintenance. Asked why other public estimates, which typically did not exceed $100,000, were so much lower, he said: "They were probably inaccurate."
The National Taxpayers Union referred to the publication of the statistic as a "major coup for public disclosure." Brady said the high price tag, as compared with prior estimates, could be attributed not just to inflation, but a better and more specific accounting of the associated costs, as well as upgrades made to the aircraft. He urged the administration to be even more forthcoming with presidential travel costs.
Brady also used his report in part to tackle rumors about the cost of Obama's 10-day post-election tour through Asia. One Indian newspaper report quoted an anonymous local official claiming it would cost U.S. taxpayers $200 million every day, a figure Brady dismissed as "wildly exaggerated." The Obama administration also shot down that figure, without detailing the actual cost.
But the trip to India, Indonesia, South Korea and Japan was by no means cheap. While a total by-the-day figure may be impossible to come by, Brady estimated that the 48 hours of flight time logged on the trip would cost at least $8.7 million for Air Force One alone. The president's latest visit to Lisbon, Portugal, for a NATO conference would add another $2.7 million, he figured.
That Lisbon trip also set a record for Obama. By Brady's accounting, Obama has now logged 55 days overseas, surpassing former President George H.W. Bush's record of 54 days during his first two years. In total, Obama has visited 26 countries -- some of them more than once -- over the course of 15 trips.
Having been in office only two years, Obama has not come anywhere close to the overall record for presidential travel. That was set by former President Bill Clinton over the course of his two terms in office. Clinton logged 233 days abroad over the course of 55 trips. Former President George W. Bush comes in at a close second, with 215 days abroad over the course of 49 trips.
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What was the point of posting this exactly? This quote says it all - Master Sgt. Jeff Capenos, with the 89th Airlift Wing, told FoxNews.com the figure reflects operating costs ranging from fuel to engine and aircraft maintenance. Asked why other public estimates, which typically did not exceed $100,000, were so much lower, he said: "They were probably inaccurate."
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What was the point of posting this exactly? This quote says it all - Master Sgt. Jeff Capenos, with the 89th Airlift Wing, told FoxNews.com the figure reflects operating costs ranging from fuel to engine and aircraft maintenance. Asked why other public estimates, which typically did not exceed $100,000, were so much lower, he said: "They were probably inaccurate."
Shows how much we are being looted.
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This coincides perfectly with the threads you started complaining about the hourly cost of Bush's travel.
Weird they're not showing up on search.
Still, seeing as you are remarkably consistent, we can all safely assume you felt the same way in 2008... that we should definitely cut corners on cost when it comes to the presiden'ts security, right?
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This coincides perfectly with the threads you started complaining about the hourly cost of Bush's travel.
Weird they're not showing up on search.
Still, seeing as you are remarkably consistent, we can all safely assume you felt the same way in 2008... that we should definitely cut corners on cost when it comes to the presiden'ts security, right?
I was not a member of the site at that time no 1, and no. 2, as the article indicates, Obama has set the record. So anything i would have posted about Bush has already been exceeded by your hero.
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Shows how much we are being looted.
By who? A president costs money to travel, that's the nature of the beast. ::) What you'd rather he set up msn chat with world leaders? You can be such a dunce sometimes.
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By who? A president costs money to travel, that's the nature of the beast. ::) What you'd rather he set up msn chat with world leaders? You can be such a dunce sometimes.
Yes - WE ARE FUCKING BROKE -
LET HIS ASS STAY HOME AND SETA TONE OF FRUGALITY FOR THE NATION UNTIL OUR FINANCES ARE IN ORDER.
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Yes - WE ARE FUCKING BROKE -
LET HIS ASS STAY HOME AND SETA TONE OF FRUGALITY FOR THE NATION UNTIL OUR FINANCES ARE IN ORDER.
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Haha ::) You're so clueless. So Bush shouldn't have been traveling anywhere either right? Or any president running a deficit. What about Regan lets start a thread complaining about his travel to Western Germany during the cold war when he ran a deficit because he should have just had a conference call. ::)
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We'd probably be better off if Obama stayed at home. He completely embarrassed us at the G20 two weeks ago.
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I hated Bush, but good try.
Even posters on this site say I am too harsh on bush.
As for Obama - just because the last asshole did something does not mean he should to.
He was elected to be responsible with tax dollars - not go on spending binges daily.
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Far-leftists still think they're helping Obama by comparing his actions to Bush? Don't they think he was Satan reincarnate and the worst president we've ever had? Says a lot about their Messiah when they rationalize his actions with "Bush did it!"
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It's weird that in 10 years, the price of something has increased.
What is this inflationary process you speak of?
Or, are we critiziing him for traveling too much? if he never left the white house, you'd complain he is an isolationist, too good to deal with our allies and adversaries.
Face it, you get a number and you're gonna bitch - no matter what.
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It's weird that in 10 years, the price of something has increased.
What is this inflationary process you speak of?
Or, are we critiziing him for traveling too much? if he never left the white house, you'd complain he is an isolationist, too good to deal with our allies and adversaries.
Face it, you get a number and you're gonna bitch - no matter what.
Don't you think setting the record might be a bit much 240?
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Don't you think setting the record might be a bit much 240?
One could argue the value of the dollar has dropped, and inflation is present always, so the cost is always gonna go up.
As for "setting the record"... yes, he had to travel a lot. Did you see world opinion of the USA in 2007 verses 2009? It's improved a great amount. Obama had to travel the world to speak to these leaders.
It's a little weird that you've resorted to "obama travels too much!" when we all know if the number was low, you'd be reposting an article saying "Why is Obama afraid to travel"?
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One could argue the value of the dollar has dropped, and inflation is present always, so the cost is always gonna go up.
As for "setting the record"... yes, he had to travel a lot. Did you see world opinion of the USA in 2007 verses 2009? It's improved a great amount. Obama had to travel the world to speak to these leaders.
It's a little weird that you've resorted to "obama travels too much!" when we all know if the number was low, you'd be reposting an article saying "Why is Obama afraid to travel"?
ha ha ha ha ha - Kneepading thy name is 240.
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when you attack me with an insult - but fail to address my point - most people here see that as you conceding the point.
you ALWAYS argue when you have a good point. it's clear you don't have one here.
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when you attack me with an insult - but fail to address my point - most people here see that as you conceding the point.
you ALWAYS argue when you have a good point. it's clear you don't have one here.
Address what? He set the record for amount of time, which has nothing to do with inflation - while everything at home is a clusterfuck and he keeps going on his world kneepad tour.
Do you still wonder why the dems and himare gone in 2012 even worse?
and bro - please - you haveexplaining to do for your post in TA's thread.
Will you admit you were wrong?
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link please.
and "time"?
Bush spent 1/4 of his time in office in crawford, and his peons said "The president has the tools to fully do his job from anywhere in the world".
Now that obama does it, suddenly it's a crime.
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link please.
and "time"?
Bush spent 1/4 of his time in office in crawford, and his peons said "The president has the tools to fully do his job from anywhere in the world".
Now that obama does it, suddenly it's a crime.
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The U.S. military has provided an updated estimate on that cost, first published by a taxpayer watchdog group and confirmed by FoxNews.com, and the number is staggering -- $181,757 per hour. That's the price tag for shuttling around President Obama, who, as it turns out, has spent more days abroad in his first two years than any other president.
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can you name a president that inherited office with as big a mess overseas? starting 2 wars, etc?
Seriously, you should scream about white house decoration or nonexistent whitey tapes. this is in the same category. I know, you know how to do his job better than he does...
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can you name a president that inherited office with as big a mess overseas? starting 2 wars, etc?
Seriously, you should scream about white house decoration or nonexistent whitey tapes. this is in the same category. I know, you know how to do his job better than he does...
If Obama can't hack it, no one can right?
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can you name a president that inherited office with as big a mess overseas? starting 2 wars, etc?
Seriously, you should scream about white house decoration or nonexistent whitey tapes. this is in the same category. I know, you know how to do his job better than he does...
Ah here we go again, I guess Obama wasn't the FUCKING SENATOR FROM ILLINOIS and had no idea what was going on. He knew what he was getting and just uses the BULLSHIT inhereted excuse to hide his incompetence.
And how exactly would Obama know how to do anything? What is his long list of accomplishments in civilian life? Oh that right he went to Harvard so he is automatically smarter than every other human past present or future ::)
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Well 120 What the Fuck?
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