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Oregon bomb-plot suspect wanted 'spectacular show'
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By TIM FOUGHT and NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Tim Fought And Nedra Pickler, Associated Press 2 hrs 1 min ago
PORTLAND, Ore. – A Somali-born teenager plotted "a spectacular show" of terrorism for months, saying he didn't mind that children would die if he bombed a crowded Christmas tree-lighting ceremony, according to a law-enforcement official and court documents.
He never got the chance. Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19, was arrested Friday in downtown Portland after using a cell phone to try to detonate what he thought were explosives in a van, prosecutors said. It turned out to be a dummy bomb put together by FBI agents.
It is the latest in a string of alleged terrorist plots by U.S. citizens or residents, including a Times Square plot in which a Pakistan-born man pleaded guilty earlier this year to trying to set off a car bomb at a bustling street corner. Last month, another Pakistan-born Virginia resident was accused in a bomb plot to kill commuters.
In the Portland plot, Mohamud believed he was receiving help from a larger ring of jihadists as he communicated with undercover federal agents, but no foreign terrorist organization was directing him, according to a law-enforcement official who wasn't authorized to discuss the case publicly and spoke on a condition of anonymity.
The official said Mohamud was very committed to the plot and planned the details alone, including where to park the van to hurt the most people.
"I want whoever is attending that event to leave, to leave dead or injured." Mohamud said, according to the affidavit.
"It's in Oregon, and Oregon, like you know, nobody ever thinks about it," the suspect told an agent in one discussion.
Thousands of people had gathered Friday on a cold, clear night for the annual event at Pioneer Courthouse Square, a plaza often referred to as "Portland's living room" because of its popularity.
Just 10 minutes before Mohamud's 5:40 p.m. arrest, the lighting ceremony began. Babies sat on shoulders, and children cheered at the first appearance of Santa Claus onstage.
The tree-lighting on the bricks of the plaza went off without a hitch just as the arrest was taking place.
Mohamud, who grew up in Beaverton, was a former student at Oregon State University. He had been enrolled in courses from late 2009 until Oct. 6 before withdrawing, said Oregon State University spokesman Todd Simmons.
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Ha ha ha ha. Oh boy. R you kidding?
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these attacks are so funny. You get a 70-IQ dishwasher who is angry at his dad. You get a team of agents to spend $300k in manhours and surveilance, talking him into doing a crime he couldn't conceptualize - much less carry out - on his own. Then you give yourself a ticker tape parade for "stopping it".
Oh brother. It was lame BS when Bush patted himself on the back for stopping the illiterate sears tower dishwasher bombers, it was lame BS when Blair patted himself on the back for stopping the UK plane attack from guys who didn't even own passports, and it's BS now. Plain and simple.
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these attacks are so funny. You get a 70-IQ dishwasher who is angry at his dad. You get a team of agents to spend $300k in manhours and surveilance, talking him into doing a crime he couldn't conceptualize - much less carry out - on his own. Then you give yourself a ticker tape parade for "stopping it".
Oh brother. It was lame BS when Bush patted himself on the back for stopping the illiterate sears tower dishwasher bombers, it was lame BS when Blair patted himself on the back for stopping the UK plane attack from guys who didn't even own passports, and it's BS now. Plain and simple.
"Life on the line"
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"Life on the line"
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???
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Everyone here knows if this kid had been successful that 333 would have posted 20 thread accusing Obama of being personally responsible
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These fbi agents and the law enforcement people beating their chests all the time and demanding more powers and this is the best they can do?
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Everyone here knows if this kid had been successful that 333 would have posted 20 thread accusing Obama of being personally responsible
Successful at what? There was no crime to begin with until the fbi prodded this fool on.
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Successful at what? There was no crime to begin with until the fbi prodded this fool on.
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Question - why are we even allowing these people to become citizens in the first place?
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I agree with 240 and even 3333 sees there is something fishy here. What they're not telling you is that there is usually somebody, an agent provacateur working for the FBI that is also working the person or group into a frenzy over a period of time. There are many cases of them being busted doing this, it's like standard proceedur lol...
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I agree with 240 and even 3333 sees there is something fishy here. What they're not telling you is that there is usually somebody, an agent provacateur working for the FBI that is also working the person or group into a frenzy over a period of time. There are many cases of them being busted doing this, it's like standard proceedur lol...
My feelings on law enforcement should be well known by now.
Why is this guy even here in the first place? Additionally - why didnt they arrest him earlier? Now - we get to spend millions on a trial, jail, incarceration, lawyers, etc etc. when this asshole should not even be here in the first place.
A joke we have become.
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My feelings on law enforcement should be well known by now.
Why is this guy even here in the first place? Additionally - why didnt they arrest him earlier? Now - we get to spend millions on a trial, jail, incarceration, lawyers, etc etc. when this asshole should not even be here in the first place.
A joke we have become.
the guy is a bad guy. we can't just have him running free if it's jut another month or two until he finds another opportunity. so we gave it to him.
it's a weird situation.
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the guy is a bad guy. we can't just have him running free if it's jut another month or two until he finds another opportunity. so we gave it to him.
it's a weird situation.
is he a bad guy or was he conditioned to be bad. Based on many past cases like this, there's a good chance he had a steady stream of conditioning. They started with this 19 year old when he was 14? Looks like they've put a lot of man hours and time into it. How much of that time was spent talking to this kid and what about?
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;D
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Everyone here knows if this kid had been successful that 333 would have posted 20 thread accusing Obama of being personally responsible
BOOM
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Everyone here knows if this kid had been successful that 333 would have posted 20 thread accusing Obama of being personally responsible
Haha thats for sure :D
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DAMN 3333. You dont give a shit that your credibility has gone to shit?
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DAMN 3333. You dont give a shit that your credibility has gone to shit?
Gone to shit? Are you freaking kidding me? Why - based one insult from a fellow marxist in Cali?
This guy looks to have been egged on by the FBI and should never have been even let into the country in the first place.
BTW - why are you silent on tyhe thread where obama gave 175000 waivers to big corporate companies under the stim bill? HHHMMMMM????
Oh thats' right - the messiah never does anything wrong to the 95%'ers.
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Gone to shit? Are you freaking kidding me? Why - based one insult from a fellow marxist in Cali?
This guy looks to have been egged on by the FBI and should never have been even let into the country in the first place.
BTW - why are you silent on tyhe thread where obama gave 175000 waivers to big corporate companies under the stim bill? HHHMMMMM????
Oh thats' right - the messiah never does anything wrong to the 95%'ers.
see.. shit like "marxist" gets no traction..
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333 looking pretty bad in this thread. Obama gets the blame but none of the credit ???
Weird.
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333 looking pretty bad in this thread. Obama gets the blame but none of the credit ???
Weird.
Here is my issue - whether it was bush, obama, whoever, this to m seems like the DEA guy pounding his chest after busting some low level guy and getting him to do somethin bigger.
Yes ths shitbag needs to be capped, but why did we even let this guy into the nation?
BTW - did Obama keep us safe last Xmas? How about the Times Square omber? No - a hot dog vendor did.
When we get someone real, come talk to me
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;D
You mean the real president who got us fucked in all this mess? Yea, I do remember that asshole.
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You mean the real president who got us fucked in all this mess? Yea, I do remember that asshole.
What did Reagan do to get us into this mess?
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Here is my issue - whether it was bush, obama, whoever, this to m seems like the DEA guy pounding his chest after busting some low level guy and getting him to do somethin bigger.
Yes ths shitbag needs to be capped, but why did we even let this guy into the nation?
BTW - did Obama keep us safe last Xmas? How about the Times Square omber? No - a hot dog vendor did.
When we get someone real, come talk to me
He moved here when he was 5, his parents by all accounts are not hardened fundamentalists are we to deny refuge's now? Learn something about the story before making up rubbish scare tactics.
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He moved here when he was 5, his parents by all accounts are not hardened fundamentalists are we to deny refuge's now? Learn something about the story before making up rubbish scare tactics.
I read the story - we should not be letting muslims into this country over other immigratns like koreans, indians etc.
Yes there are a few good ones, but sorry charlie, if I have a limited group to draw from for naturalization - somalia, pakistan, etc are at the very bottom of the list.
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I read the story - we should not be letting muslims into this country over other immigratns like koreans, indians etc.
Yes there are a few good ones, but sorry charlie, if I have a limited group to draw from for naturalization - somalia, pakistan, etc are at the very bottom of the list.
He was 5 and his family has been nothing but upstanding citizens. Gosh you are a brain dead bigot aren't ya?
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He was 5 and his family has been nothing but upstanding citizens. Gosh you are a brain dead bigot aren't ya?
Bigot - no
Reality based person - yes.
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Bigot - no
Reality based person - yes.
I'm sure that's what the nazi's thought of themselves too! And the south prior to the civil war.
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I'm sure that's what the nazi's thought of themselves too! And the south prior to the civil war.
Ha ha ha ha - I don't speak german or have a confederate flag.
But in all seriousness - I would cmpletely ban all naturalizion from places like somalia if it were me.