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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: big L dawg on November 29, 2010, 11:27:21 AM
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Hands down best ever...
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Hard to argue...especially for that era...
Coleman has to be in there and of course Wheeler
Oh yeah...racist post reported.
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I agree..its either him, flex or coleman.
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Hands down best ever...
You couldn't ask for much more than what he showed.
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If you took all drug use away from flex,colemen and sergio....the number one build would be sergio....followed by flex...colemen is farther down IMO he's the best drug responder of the group but genetics?...no...
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If you took all drug use away from flex,colemen and sergio....the number one build would be sergio....followed by flex...colemen is farther down IMO he's the best drug responder of the group but genetics?...no...
well if you want to follow that train of though Steve Reeves had better genetics than all because he was natural.
and what do we mean by genetics? just shape? basic structure? muscle size? conditioning? I mean it's pretty all-encompassing term it means a lot of things to a lot of people
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well if you want to follow that train of though Steve Reeves had better genetics than all because he was natural.
and what do we mean by genetics? just shape? basic structure? muscle size? conditioning? I mean it's pretty all-encompassing term it means a lot of things to a lot of people
looking for a way to put yates in there huh?
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i never liked sergios physique.
i always thought he looked weird, no flow IMO.
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you can say that again :P haha
anyways no..I dont think steve reeves has the genetics...for one he's white...but seriously it's Olivia resistance is futile...
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If you took all drug use away from flex,colemen and sergio....the number one build would be sergio....followed by flex...colemen is farther down IMO he's the best drug responder of the group but genetics?...no...
(http://www.bigroncoleman.com/photos/Begin02_LG.jpg)
19 yrs old or so sergio and flex were twigs compared to ronnie.
nope...ronnie is a naturally bigger man than sergio, his base is thicker with those big bones from his mom.
no drugs and ronnie is 5'10" 230 eating southern cooking and thick as the fuck...just hitting the weights at metro over the yrs on the police force
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looking for a way to put yates in there huh?
depending on the context I can easily
I think as far as shape , symmetry , proportions and natural structure Steve Reeves is about as good as it gets
6'1" 215lbs with a 29" waist super wide clavicles , narrow waist & hips meet the Greek Ideal of the arms calves and neck measuring exactly the same
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depending on the context I can easily
I think as far as shape , symmetry , proportions and natural structure Steve Reeves is about as good as it gets
6'1" 215lbs with a 29" waist super wide clavicles , narrow waist & hips meet the Greek Ideal of the arms calves and neck measuring exactly the same
get the fuck outta here and take your fagg ot greek ideals with you.
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you can say that again :P haha
anyways no..I dont think steve reeves has the genetics...for one he's white...but seriously it's Olivia resistance is futile...
he was a beast, but i always preffered mike mentzers physique to his, or serge nubret's. not to mention zanes.
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(http://www.bigroncoleman.com/photos/Begin02_LG.jpg)
19 yrs old or so sergio and flex were twigs compared to ronnie.
nope...ronnie is a naturally bigger man than sergio, his base is thicker with those big bones from his mom.
no drugs and ronnie is 5'10" 230 eating southern cooking and thick as the fuck...just hitting the weights at metro over the yrs on the police force
Agreed...
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i never liked sergios physique.
i always thought he looked weird, no flow IMO.
as opposed to you, eh Statue of David?
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looking for a way to put yates in there huh?
;D But Yates had better genetics than most people give him credit for.
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get the fuck outta here and take your fagg ot greek ideals with you.
hahahaha so genetics only refer to what you like ? ::) sorry great genetics isn't 24" arms and 17" calves go learn what real bodybuilding is and not what it's become.
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(http://www.bigroncoleman.com/photos/Begin02_LG.jpg)
19 yrs old or so sergio and flex were twigs compared to ronnie.
nope...ronnie is a naturally bigger man than sergio, his base is thicker with those big bones from his mom.
no drugs and ronnie is 5'10" 230 eating southern cooking and thick as the fuck...just hitting the weights at metro over the yrs on the police force
Oliva was never a twig........lifted on the Cuban Olympic weightlifting team before defecting to the USA in the 1960`s.
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as opposed to you, eh Statue of David?
::) calm down dude, its only 1 guys opinion.
your faceless opinion is more valid i take it ?
good for you - and great argument by the way. ::)
aren't you the guy that blew his load in another thread posting half naked pics of brad pitt ::)
stick to that stuff.
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;D But Yates had better genetics than most people give him credit for.
absolutely , people 99% of the time equate genetics as small waist & hips and big arms and shape ( of certain parts ) it's a narrow minded approach and if that's all their mean by ' genetics ' then they aren't technically wrong just not looking at the whole picture.
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hahahaha so genetics only refer to what you like ? ::) sorry great genetics isn't 24" arms and 17" calves go learn what real bodybuilding is and not what it's become.
Once again, leave...this thread isn't for you...
Go drink a large bottle of bleach and take a nap.
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Once again, leave...this thread isn't for you...
Go drink a bottle of bleach.
best genetics ever , makes total sense to me ;D ::) ;)
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absolutely , people 99% of the time equate genetics as small waist & hips and big arms and shape ( of certain parts ) it's a narrow minded approach and if that's all their mean by ' genetics ' then they aren't technically wrong just not looking at the whole picture.
No, what's narrow minded is you trying to inject, people that don't belong in a conversation...
Number 1....lying by saying Coleman had 24 inch arms and 17 inch calves knowing it isn't true...Coleman's physique has transcended 2 eras of bodybuilding, Coleman was great smaller and symmetrical and as a mass monster...
Coleman played all the games and won all the games...Coleman looks good at 230 and at 280 no one else can do that....
You're a fucking idiot...
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No, what's narrow minded is you trying to inject, people that don't belong in a conversation...
Number 1....lying by saying Coleman had 24 inch arms and 17 inch calves knowing it isn't true...Coleman's physique has transcended 2 eras of bodybuilding, Coleman was great smaller and symmetrical and as a mass monster...
Coleman played all the games and won all the games...Coleman looks good at 230 and at 280 no one else can do that....
You're a fucking idiot...
who doesn't belong in the conversation? Reeves? Sergio? because I mentioned both of them , you mentioned Yates ;)
Coleman's ' genetics ' are great depending on the context best of all-time , my ass. his structure , balance & proportion are all nothing to right home about , his arms and calves are no where near the same size , he has a short torso , long legs and an over sized ass so big it can be seen from the front , you think that's great muscle proportion and balance? go read up on the subject and I don't mean Muscular Development
and having a hard time sharing your opinion with an ad hominem attack?
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Would these trousers fit Ronnies waist.
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one look at the last pic posted with the thin ultra saggy pecs and glossy bloated gut the word great is way too generous.
He looked good for his first olympia win and the 2001 arnold. looked crap, bloated and droopy when he started getting bigger and too many weaknesses and glaringly poor structure at light weight
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Best ' genetics ' the sport's ever seen.
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Would these trousers fit Ronnies waist.
Absolutely :-X
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who doesn't belong in the conversation? Reeves? Sergio? because I mentioned both of them , you mentioned Yates ;)
Coleman's ' genetics ' are great depending on the context best of all-time , my ass. his structure , balance & proportion are all nothing to right home about , his arms and calves are no where near the same size , he has a short torso , long legs and an over sized ass so big it can be seen from the front , you think that's great muscle proportion and balance? go read up on the subject and I don't mean Muscular Development
and having a hard time sharing your opinion with an ad hominem attack?
I can share my opinion in a non-aggressive way if I chose to...You and your yang buddy who shall not be named fuck up threads with your thoughtless dribble...You're not dragging me in the mud with you to waste years of my life...
Yes, I brought up Yates because you always find a way to put him in a category he doesn't belong or to bash Ronnie at any chance you get using the most unflattering photos and ignoring his best....So even based on your ideals then, Pre-synthol Wheeler is best...done...Reeves...l ol.... ::) Underdeveloped everything....Swimmer proportions.
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one look at the last pic posted with the thin ultra saggy pecs and glossy bloated gut the word great is way too generous.
He looked good for his first olympia win and the 2001 arnold. looked crap, bloated and droopy when he started getting bigger and too many weaknesses and glaringly poor structure at light weight
No that's the best genetics of all-time ::)
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hahahaha so genetics only refer to what you like ? ::) sorry great genetics isn't 24" arms and 17" calves go learn what real bodybuilding is and not what it's become.
according to who.....the Greeks thousands of years ago?
it's 2010 slim......just because some Greek homo liked his ass fucking partners built a certain way doesn't mean we have to uphold those standards forever....times change.
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No, what's narrow minded is you trying to inject, people that don't belong in a conversation...
Number 1....lying by saying Coleman had 24 inch arms and 17 inch calves knowing it isn't true...Coleman's physique has transcended 2 eras of bodybuilding, Coleman was great smaller and symmetrical and as a mass monster...
Coleman played all the games and won all the games...Coleman looks good at 230 and at 280 no one else can do that....
You're a fucking idiot...
I don't think Coleman looked good at 280....I mean his conditioning got worse, his gut got bloated, proportions and symmetry suffered....just saying.
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As far as structure, Reeves is near flawless.
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absolutely , people 99% of the time equate genetics as small waist & hips and big arms and shape ( of certain parts ) it's a narrow minded approach and if that's all their mean by ' genetics ' then they aren't technically wrong just not looking at the whole picture.
I agree and I honestly used to think like that too, but after learning a bit I can see there is more to genetics than just shape or freakish size.
Yates' structure genetically was one of the best for example, his balance and proportions too.
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As far as structure, Reeves is near flawless.
he's a fucking twink. crappy thighs, thin shitty back, pathetic arms.
he had a trim waist and a good clean lower pec line, and the fucking latent homosexuals lose their mind over it.
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I can share my opinion in a non-aggressive way if I chose to...You and your yang buddy who shall not be named fuck up threads with your thoughtless dribble...You're not dragging me in the mud with you to waste years of my life...
Yes, I brought up Yates because you always find a way to put him in a category he doesn't belong or to bash Ronnie at any chance you get using the most unflattering photos and ignoring his best....So even based on your ideals then, Pre-synthol Wheeler is best...done...Reeves...l ol.... ::) Underdeveloped everything....
I can share my opinion in a non-aggressive way if I chose to...You and your yang buddy who shall not be named fuck up threads with your thoughtless dribble...You're not dragging me in the mud with you to waste years of my life...
Settle down Francis it's only the internet , you're already in the mud with the name calling stop acting like you're above it all
Yes, I brought up Yates because you always find a way to put him in a category he doesn't belong or to bash Ronnie at any chance you get using the most unflattering photos and ignoring his best....So even based on your ideals then, Pre-synthol Wheeler is best...done...Reeves...l ol.... ::) Underdeveloped everything....
Says you , I can easily say Dorian has outstanding genetics depending on the context and again I NEVER typed his name and if I wanted to I would I don't need your permission , and bash Ronnie elaborate on that gem , I posted the truth his genetics are great ( depending on the context ) but to claim they are the best of all time is ignorant his natural structure leaves a lot to be desired
Flex's genetics are great too it all depends on what context you mean if you mean by natural structure Flex isn't the best he's narrow and his arms aren't in proportion and his calves were high and I could go on , if by best genetics you mean , true symmetry , muscle balance & proportion , structure Reeves hands down tramples Ronnie & Flex who both would be nothing without drugs and Sergio kills them both in this area as well , if you mean shape and muscle size and muscularity Flex is hard to beat I would certainly put him above Ronnie
it's guys like you who already made up your mind and base everything on preference and bias that I enjoy correcting the most ;) more to genetics than what you like sport.
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Victor richards, Paul dillet, Coleman
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he's a fucking twink. crappy thighs, thin shitty back, pathetic arms.
he had a trim waist and a good clean lower pec line, and the fucking latent homosexuals lose their mind over it.
irony alert , how many times can you elaborate on this subject? what's on your mind?
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Throw wheeler in there too
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he's a fucking twink. crappy thighs, thin shitty back, pathetic arms.
he had a trim waist and a good clean lower pec line, and the fucking latent homosexuals lose their mind over it.
I think he mentioned Reeves due to his structure, torso length, clavicle width, limb/leg length, small waist, etc. He didn't mention Reeves due to his muscle size or development which for the time being (50s) were great.
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No that's the best genetics of all-time ::)
you are obsessed with Coleman.... Geez ... Dude...
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irony alert , how many times can you elaborate on this subject? what's on your mind?
Yes......i have such a rich history of this ::)
there are multiple thousand page threads where i endlessly go around in circles about it ;)
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Ronnie probably had the best genetics of all-time. 300 lbs in your face!!!
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman1.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman2.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman4.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman10.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman11.jpg)
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he's a fucking twink. crappy thighs, thin shitty back, pathetic arms.
he had a trim waist and a good clean lower pec line, and the fucking latent homosexuals lose their mind over it.
i agree with you in regard to pics, but in the movies he dwarfed everyone standing next to him :o
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Ronnie probably had the best genetics of all-time. 300 lbs in your face!!!
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman1.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman2.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman4.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman10.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman11.jpg)
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Oliva was never a twig........lifted on the Cuban Olympic weightlifting team before defecting to the USA in the 1960`s.
There is just one type of weightlifting. Lets call it...weightlifting. ;)
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Sergio was the freak of freaks
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Ronnie probably had the best genetics of all-time. 300 lbs in your face!!!
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman1.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman2.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman4.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman10.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman11.jpg)
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Greatest ever
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I think Flex Wheeler had an outstanding physique. But, his torso never allowed him to dominate. It was mostly his arms that grew as he was becoming bigger. His lack of width and thickness was very obvious in certain poses.
Take greats like Coleman, Yates and Haney. They all looked (even) better for real than in pics. This was especially visible in transitions between poses, not to mention just standing there... and their dominance were obvious when standing next to other competitors. I think Flex is the opposite. Some pics, and in certain poses, he looks phenomenal. But, next to others he fades a bit, and in many poses he 'disappears'. He simply didn't had the torso-structure to be the greatest - or to be considered as having the best genetics.
Haney though, had perhaps the best torso ever - especially and even when considering he retired at 31, and that he never pushed the envelope like the next greats...
Compare his torso - size and taper - with the 280-plus pound Coleman...
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you are obsessed with Coleman.... Geez ... Dude...
not as ' obsessed ' as correcting his many fan-boys
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Ronnie probably had the best genetics of all-time. 300 lbs in your face!!!
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman1.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman2.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman4.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman10.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman11.jpg)
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Greatest ever hands down
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Ronnie probably had the best genetics of all-time. 300 lbs in your face!!!
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman1.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman2.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman4.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman10.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/04%20Dutch%20GP/04DutchGP-RonnieColeman11.jpg)
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Coleman's lines and flow suck.
Oliva, Nubret, Reeves, to name a few.
At lower bodyweights someone like Coleman isn't in the competition. The new wave of drugs and the direction the sport went in facilitated his look.
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Coleman's lines and flow suck.
Oliva, Nubret, Reeves, to name a few.
At lower bodyweights someone like Coleman isn't in the competition. The new wave of drugs and the direction the sport went in facilitated his look.
I agree ,these guys are fucking blind.
(http://www.dutchbodybuilding.com/gallery/data/1016/Rory_Leidelmeyer_026.jpg)
(http://runkz.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/olympia.jpg)
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I agree ,these guys are fucking blind.
(http://www.dutchbodybuilding.com/gallery/data/1016/Rory_Leidelmeyer_026.jpg)
(http://runkz.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/olympia.jpg)
Rory & Paris shit on Coleman's genetics ( structure wise & balance & proportion and aesthetics )
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not as ' obsessed ' as correcting his many fan-boys
You can't "correct" someone's opinion genius :)
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Rory & Paris shit on Coleman's genetics ( structure wise & balance & proportion and aesthetics )
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You can't "correct" someone's opinion genius :)
absolutely you can especially when spouting off on a subject they know nothing about , which you're guilty of often. the saying applies " You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. "
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absolutely you can especially when spouting off on a subject they know nothing about , which you're guilty of often. the saying applies " You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. "
I'm much, much bigger than you...that is true
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well then there was arnold
better than any of them
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have a nice day!
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Coleman's lines and flow suck.
Oliva, Nubret, Reeves, to name a few.
At lower bodyweights someone like Coleman isn't in the competition. The new wave of drugs and the direction the sport went in facilitated his look.
Shhhhhhhhh don't say this , Ronnie fanboys get all upset when you don't jump on the band wagon and claim blindly he's the bestest ever
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I'm much, much bigger than you...that is true
A much , much bigger moron? then this I would have to agree with you on ;D congrats you're much , much bigger than I am , and what do you win for this? Internet-respect? GetBig credibility? bragging you're much , much bigger than someone on the internet lol read that back to yourself and maybe it will sound as pathetic to you as it does me? ???
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A much , much bigger moron? then this I would have to agree with you on ;D congrats you're much , much bigger than I am , and what do you win for this? Internet-respect? GetBig credibility? bragging you're much , much bigger than someone on the internet lol read that back to yourself and maybe it will sound as pathetic to you as it does me? ???
I cant believe he really said that to you. Someone needs to get out more.
Being respected and tough on the internet is very important to some.
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best genetics ever , makes total sense to me ;D ::) ;)
Fuck, he makes Levrone look like a little boy.
They don't even look like they're the same species. Like a silverback next to a pygmy monkey.
Good pic!
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My vote would have to be Flex Wheeler - huge billowing muscles with the tiniest of tiny joints - that's the ultimate in genetic potential right there.
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Would these trousers fit Ronnies waist.
I've seen A LOT probably most of the public pictures available and I've never seen that one. Kick ass!
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I cant believe he really said that to you. Someone needs to get out more.
Being respected and tough on the internet is very important to some.
Its not that serious......stop melting over it
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Its not that serious......stop melting over it
oh look its Alex's fluff boy,....even talking like him now. Never thought a top notch poster like you would tumble so far down the ladder
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I agree ,these guys are fucking blind.
(http://www.dutchbodybuilding.com/gallery/data/1016/Rory_Leidelmeyer_026.jpg)
(http://runkz.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/olympia.jpg)
Great pic. Rory and Bob completely wipe the floor with Coleman.
Those two are pretty high up the list any way you cut it.
As for Jay and Ronnie the less said the better.
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I cant believe he really said that to you. Someone needs to get out more.
Being respected and tough on the internet is very important to some.
" alpha-don " according to himself LMMFAO ;D
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I'm much, much bigger than you...that is true
If you lost about 40lbs of blubber you wouldn't be. You're not that big. You could stand to lose some fat chubs.
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Great pic. Rory and Bob completely wipe the floor with Coleman.
Those two are pretty high up the list any way you cut it.
As for Jay and Ronnie the less said the better.
Those two look like works of art compared to Ronnie & Jay , textbook bodybuilding compared to pharmacy-building
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If you lost about 40lbs of blubber you wouldn't be. You're not that big. You could stand to lose some fat chubs.
but he's ' much , much bigger ' which obviously means better ;D
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but he's ' much , much bigger ' which obviously means better ;D
Groink is a natural freak. Steve Reeves is a twink apparently, if only he had Groinks genetics.
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Groink is a natural freak. Steve Reeves is a twink apparently, if only he had Groinks genetics.
LMFAO he'd be somewhere in bodybuilding like GetBig bragging about how much bigger he is than everyone ;D
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lots of hurt feelings in this thread....i was fucking around, you all need to relax a little bit .
PS.....I'd like to see the massive, shredded physiques of all the beasts calling me fat ;)
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(http://www.bigroncoleman.com/photos/Begin02_LG.jpg)
19 yrs old or so sergio and flex were twigs compared to ronnie.
nope...ronnie is a naturally bigger man than sergio, his base is thicker with those big bones from his mom.
no drugs and ronnie is 5'10" 230 eating southern cooking and thick as the fuck...just hitting the weights at metro over the yrs on the police force
thats were your missing the point...someone being a naturally bigger man doesnt mean someone has better genetics...and as far as the no drugs claim just lifting at metro on the police force...you dont know when he dropped his natural status...
I believe people get blinded by the size/weight of colemen to the point of becoming erational...Like I said out of Coleman,flex,and sergio Coleman is the best drug responder...but that doesn't mean he's better genetics wise...
also another reason you cant just say...well look at this pic of ronnie at 19 he's this he's that...then you bring in modern day factors...better weightlifting equipment,better nutrition knowledge,better supplements,better(more)drugs....you see?...take everything away...and just look genetics...
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this is the best genetic specimen bodybuilding has ever seen....
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was there someone earlier that said arnold? ;D haha yea...
another excellent drug responder...
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he's a fucking twink. crappy thighs, thin shitty back, pathetic arms.
he had a trim waist and a good clean lower pec line, and the fucking latent homosexuals lose their mind over it.
Lol, far from losing my mind. And I'm not talking about development, just shape and structure. I'm sure if he trained today with modern methods and "supplements", it would be a different story.
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I think Flex Wheeler had an outstanding physique. But, his torso never allowed him to dominate. It was mostly his arms that grew as he was becoming bigger. His lack of width and thickness was very obvious in certain poses.
Take greats like Coleman, Yates and Haney. They all looked (even) better for real than in pics. This was especially visible in transitions between poses, not to mention just standing there... and their dominance were obvious when standing next to other competitors. I think Flex is the opposite. Some pics, and in certain poses, he looks phenomenal. But, next to others he fades a bit, and in many poses he 'disappears'. He simply didn't had the torso-structure to be the greatest - or to be considered as having the best genetics.
Haney though, had perhaps the best torso ever - especially and even when considering he retired at 31, and that he never pushed the envelope like the next greats...
Compare his torso - size and taper - with the 280-plus pound Coleman...
I can say positively that after meeting Lee and standing next to him the day after the '88 Olympia...he looked way better in person than in pics!
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Big Dicked Bob
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Right up there with the Best Genetics, and this shot was taken 37 yrs ago... Sergio and Arnold were the Bench Mark back in the day.
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I think Flex Wheeler had an outstanding physique. But, his torso never allowed him to dominate. It was mostly his arms that grew as he was becoming bigger. His lack of width and thickness was very obvious in certain poses.
Take greats like Coleman, Yates and Haney. They all looked (even) better for real than in pics. This was especially visible in transitions between poses, not to mention just standing there... and their dominance were obvious when standing next to other competitors. I think Flex is the opposite. Some pics, and in certain poses, he looks phenomenal. But, next to others he fades a bit, and in many poses he 'disappears'. He simply didn't had the torso-structure to be the greatest - or to be considered as having the best genetics.
Haney though, had perhaps the best torso ever - especially and even when considering he retired at 31, and that he never pushed the envelope like the next greats...
Compare his torso - size and taper - with the 280-plus pound Coleman...
I agree, I forgot about Haney. I always thought he needed thicker arms though.
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lots of hurt feelings in this thread....i was fucking around, you all need to relax a little bit .
PS.....I'd like to see the massive, shredded physiques of all the beasts calling me fat ;)
You're fat! ;D
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You're fat! ;D
Yup....obese even ;D
Still waiting on these studs pics to own me ;)
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Best ' genetics ' the sport's ever seen.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=357612.0;attach=392898;image)
Good genetics here...
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What a shitty thread. ::)
yeah in 10 billion population on planet earth, "sergio oliva" has the best genetics. ::)
You wouldnt even imagine what is out there, somewhere.
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It does depend on what 'just genetics' actually means. Richard Jones looked great at 200lb, but couldn't get any heavier without looking worse. Is that 'great genetics'? Who knows. Flex was great, but narrow. Ronnie's not the prettiest, but has the right insertions to carry enough size and shape on every bodypart. Plus have you seen the pic of Ronne aged sixteen, ripped to the bone? He's naturally lean that's for sure (cue Rocket~twat posting an obese pic of 44 year old Ronnie ::)) Dorian wasn't the prettiest either, but pre~tear he carried size everywhere and again was extremely lean at an early age, and was able to perhaps bulk up more and still get lean in a way other guys couldn't. As far as structure, Flex's delts could have doubled in size and he'd still be narrow from the back. So how do you judge it? Chris Cormier had great genetics I think. And in the same arguably narrow way as Flex, so did this guy:
(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/8/1/81834-Sergio_Oliva_195.jpg)
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(http://www.bigroncoleman.com/photos/Begin02_LG.jpg)
19 yrs old or so sergio and flex were twigs compared to ronnie.
nope...ronnie is a naturally bigger man than sergio, his base is thicker with those big bones from his mom.
no drugs and ronnie is 5'10" 230 eating southern cooking and thick as the fuck...just hitting the weights at metro over the yrs on the police force
ha ha... what a joke, ronny here,, full of drugs and propper training and nutrition, barely over 230
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Sergio was amazing. However if looking critically his muscle looked doughey to me. Soft and mushy. Back wasn't great either. Many think if he had used todays drugs he would be the best ever. I'm not so sure of that. Impossible to know how he would have developed but I doubt he would have touched Ronnie using Ron's stack.
Dillet looked insane in many shots (front relaxed) but his back was absolutely horrible, and it had nothing to do with training. The fibers and insertions just weren't there. He also looked real fragile in some way. Like a man not in control of his body, just stick with a ton of beef slapped onto it.
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ronnie and sergio had the best genes for Bodybuilding...not the best genetically overall.
Steve reeves was a genetically perfect male human...he was literally without a single flaw physically.
good genetics = tall , most of these bbers are like 5-8 to 5-10 tops, and are black and ugly hahaha
reeves was 6-1, 215 with a 29 inch waist, wide clavicles, low lat inserts, full calf genetics, full pec line, round delts, visible abs, well developed and perfectly proportional arms and legs, along with movie star looks (no homo)
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ronnie and sergio had the best genes for Bodybuilding...not the best genetically overall.
Steve reeves was a genetically perfect male human...he was literally without a single flaw physically.
good genetics = tall , most of these bbers are like 5-8 to 5-10 tops, and are black and ugly hahaha
reeves was 6-1, 215 with a 29 inch waist, wide clavicles, low lat inserts, full calf genetics, full pec line, round delts, visible abs, well developed and perfectly proportional arms and legs, along with movie star looks (no homo)
+1........Close the thread now!
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ronnie and sergio had the best genes for Bodybuilding...not the best genetically overall.
Steve reeves was a genetically perfect male human...he was literally without a single flaw physically.
good genetics = tall , most of these bbers are like 5-8 to 5-10 tops, and are black and ugly hahaha
reeves was 6-1, 215 with a 29 inch waist, wide clavicles, low lat inserts, full calf genetics, full pec line, round delts, visible abs, well developed and perfectly proportional arms and legs, along with movie star looks (no homo)
Agree.
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how da fuck was Dennis Newman not mentioned in this? Newman had everything Reeves had plus size.