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cant believe 3333 didn't come across this before i did...
we know 3333...... FAIL right
President Obama on the Federal Pay Freeze: "Getting This Deficit Under Control is Going to Require Broad Sacrifice"
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/11/29/president-obama-federal-pay-freeze-getting-deficit-under-control-going-require-broad
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Good.
What happened to the freeze on all discretionary spending he promised in the State of the Union address?
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Good.
What happened to the freeze on all discretionary spending he promised in the State of the Union address?
lol...i knew it...
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What about the reduction in foodstamps? :D
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Oh sorry, he said 57 states and told somebody to have a salad ;D
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But wait we haven't been attacked....
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lol...i knew it...
???
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But wasn't Obama ok with posting pics of Billy's kids on the forum?
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Very interesting, but in the big picture the government isn't spending any less they are just projecting not to pay more.
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This move will get the deficit down in a hurry. :-X
Ok everyone, we're freezing your pay at it's peak and I know it'll hurt but we all have to make sacrifices. ::)
All hail our caring leader!
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Symbolic nonsense but a good starting point.
We need to cut the govt by forty percent.
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Just a gesture to make the sheeple happy. Shut the people up who keep yelling "socialist". That's all it is.
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I guess this guy like the american public does not know that it takes 1300 X 1 Billion to equal 1.3 Trillion ..saving two Billion in cuts is nothing. The interest on 1.3 Trillion is more than 2 Billion...More waste.
Obama proposes federal pay freeze to help get deficit 'under control'
President Obama says the proposed federal pay freeze would save the federal government $2 billion in fiscal year 2011. The federal deficit is expected to be about $1.3 trillion.
(http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/media/images/1129-federal-pay-freeze.jpg/9098798-1-eng-US/1129-federal-pay-freeze.JPG_full_380.jpg)
President Obama leaves the lectern following remarks about a proposed federal worker pay freeze in Washington Monday.
Jason Reed/Reuters
By Linda Feldmann, Staff Writer / November 29, 2010
Washington
In a gesture of concern over the nation's massive budget deficit, President Obama proposed Monday a pay freeze for civilian federal workers over the next two years.
The move, which requires congressional action to implement, would save the federal government $2 billion for the remainder of fiscal year 2011, which began Oct. 1, $5 billion over two years, and $28 billion in cumulative savings over the next five years, according to the White House. The federal deficit for FY 2011 alone is expected to approach $1.3 trillion.
In midday White House remarks, Mr. Obama couched the plan in the context of the nation’s larger fiscal challenges.
"The hard truth is that getting this deficit under control is going to require some broad sacrifice, and that sacrifice must be shared by the employees of the federal government,” Obama said. “After all, small businesses and families are tightening their belts. The government should too."
Civilian federal pay has become a political football in recent weeks. Democrats wanted to vote in a 1.4 percent pay increase for the 2.1 million-strong federal work force during the lame duck session of Congress. But the Republicans, who take control of the House in January, have other ideas.
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R) of Utah, who will chair the committee that oversees federal pay, has said he wants a pay freeze and would prefer a 10 percent pay cut. A recent study by USA Today found that the number of federal workers who make more than $150,000 a year has risen 10-fold in the last five years and doubled since Mr. Obama took office in early 2009.
White House officials maintain that the proposed pay freeze is not related to the recent coverage of well-paid federal workers, nor is it connected to any expected recommendations by the president’s bipartisan deficit commission due out on Wednesday. Defenders of the federal work force argue that federal employees make less than private-sector workers with similar education and experience.
In his remarks, Obama acknowledged concerns that freezing pay could hurt the government’s ability to attract top talent.
"In these challenging times we want the best and brightest to join and make a difference," the president said. "But these are also times where all of us are called on to make some sacrifices. And I'm asking civil servants to do what they've always done: play their part."
Obama also touted past measures aimed at reining in spending, including: the freezing of salaries for senior White House officials; disposal of excess federal real estate; setting a goal of reducing improper federal payments by $50 billion by the end of 2012.
Republicans applauded Obama’s federal pay freeze proposal, but suggested it was just a start.
"At a time when our nation's seniors have been denied a cost-of-living-increase and private sector hiring is stagnant, it is both necessary and, quite frankly, long overdue to institute a pay freeze for the federal work force,” said Rep. Darrell Issa (R) of California, incoming chair of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, in a statement. “As Republicans outlined in our Pledge to America there are a number of actions the president and Congress should immediately act on to demonstrate a real commitment to reigning in the excessive growth and spending of the federal government.”
Congressman Issa cites a report issued last week by the Office of Management and Budget that puts the amount of improper federal payments for FY 2010 at $125 billion, $15 billion over last year. Issa has proposed an aggressive schedule of hearings in the next Congress aimed at rooting out waste, fraud, and abuse.
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I'd LOVE to see 333386 criticize obammers on this one! lol...
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This is purely symbolic at best. Yet it is a good symbolic step but in reality it does nothing.
We just lost in the GM IPO the same amount of money this is projected to save over 5 years. So its really bullshit.
W have a 1.3 Trillion Dollar Deficit and areborrowing .43 cents of every dollar we spend. This is meaninless pap for morons to eat up thinking it is doing anything.
We need at least 30-40% cuts in govt and across th board pay decreases. If these leeches in govt don't like it - let em resign and replace them with people who would kill for these jobs.
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What about the reduction in foodstamps? :D
You did read my article from The Hill right?
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I'd LOVE to see 333386 criticize obammers on this one! lol...
Its fucking nonsense 240 - so of course you jump up and down like a trained seal.
Read Samnsons' post at the top and get a clue. This is pure symbolic bs, a good symbol no doubt, but all style over substance.
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This move will get the deficit down in a hurry. :-X
Ok everyone, we're freezing your pay at it's peak and I know it'll hurt but we all have to make sacrifices. ::)
All hail our caring leader!
Bingo.
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"....getting this deficit under control is going to require some broad sacrifice...."
Lol. What a load of shit.
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Hilarious.. Obama does something about economy they agree with.. and its a dull roar..
If he ties his shoe wrong 3333 makes 10 threads with it typing in caps and posting right winged articles and videos and then post terminator pics of sarah palin..
hilarious i tell you. Be like some of you other exreme right winged buddies... we get it..you dont like obama as a person and it has nothing to do with issues. Just stay silent when he does something you know is right. This business of trying to spin a Fed Pay Freeze is just childish.
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Hilarious.. Obama does something about economy they agree with.. and its a dull roar..
If he ties his shoe wrong 3333 makes 10 threads with it typing in caps and posting right winged articles and videos and then post terminator pics of sarah palin..
hilarious i tell you. Be like some of you other exreme right winged buddies... we get it..you dont like obama as a person and it has nothing to do with issues. Just stay silent when he does something you know is right. This business of trying to spin a Fed Pay Freeze is just childish.
Oh please stop shlling or bogus nonsense.again - its a goodsymbolic step - but completely meaningless rubbish.
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But wait we haven't been attacked....
We need Bush in office for THAT to occur. ;)
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Hilarious.. Obama does something about economy they agree with.. and its a dull roar..
If he ties his shoe wrong 3333 makes 10 threads with it typing in caps and posting right winged articles and videos and then post terminator pics of sarah palin..
hilarious i tell you. Be like some of you other exreme right winged buddies... we get it..you dont like obama as a person and it has nothing to do with issues. Just stay silent when he does something you know is right. This business of trying to spin a Fed Pay Freeze is just childish.
You have no idea what you're talking about. This is like talking one step forward after talking 100 steps backwards. Woopty doo. You probably think the econmy is back to normal because a bunch of retards trample each over some laptops while they beg for 120 weeks of unemployment checks and more welfare. ::)
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You have no idea what you're talking about. This is like talking one step forward after talking 100 steps backwards. Woopty doo. You probably think the econmy is back to normal because a bunch of retards trample each over some laptops while they beg for 120 weeks of unemployment checks and more welfare. ::)
Whack Shades is so utterly clueless it hurts. This is bogus nonsense. all it does is freeze wages at the G levels but does not stop Step Up increases when people are there due to time.
So if someone goes from G5 to G6 they are still getting a pay increase.
This is simply bread and circuses for the idiots.
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Whack Shades is so utterly clueless it hurts. This is bogus nonsense. all it does is freeze wages at the G levels but does not stop Step Up increases when people are there due to time.
So if someone goes from G5 to G6 they are still getting a pay increase.
This is simply bread and circuses for the idiots.
lol..dude you so feel my steeze its hilarious
But is g5-g6 a promotion?
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You have no idea what you're talking about. This is like talking one step forward after talking 100 steps backwards. Woopty doo. You probably think the econmy is back to normal because a bunch of retards trample each over some laptops while they beg for 120 weeks of unemployment checks and more welfare. ::)
how dont i know what im talking about,..if you yourself say its a step foward...
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Did you take math in elementary school?
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I have told you a million times - its a good symbolic step, but in reality does not nothing.
www.usdebtclock.org
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Obama's pay freeze
for federal workers
only limits raises
Updated 10h 45m ago
By Dennis Cauchon, USA TODAY
Many federal workers would still get pay raises the
next two years despite the limited salary freeze
President Obama proposed this week for 2.2 million
government employees.
The president's proposal, if approved by Congress,
would stop across-the-board pay hikes set for
January 2011 and January 2012.
But many federal workers will receive other pay
hikes — longevity increases (called steps),
promotions in grade, bonuses, overtime and other
cash payments.
Most federal employees are ranked at a General
Schedule (GS) grade from 1 to 15, and each grade
has 10 steps within it.
MONDAY: Obama proposes freeze on federal pay
PAYCHECKS: More federal workers' pay tops
$150,000
Step raises are largely automatic, based on
longevity, but merit can hasten a step pay raise or
even move a worker up multiple steps. Not every
worker gets a step raise every year, but the raises
average about 2% per year for workers as a group.
Ronald Reagan in 1986 was the last president to
freeze across-the-board pay hikes. Bill Clinton tried
in 1994, but Congress said no.
The federal government would save $2 billion in the
first year and an estimated $28 billion over five
years under the limited freeze, Obama says.
Democrat Erskine Bowles and former senator Alan
Simpson, R-Wyo., chairmen of the federal deficit
reduction commission appointed by Obama, favor a
broader freeze on federal pay — stopping all pay
hikes for three years, including step raises and
bonuses. The commission says the move would
save more than double what Obama is calling for.
The proposals anger leaders of federal worker
groups who say that the savings represent only a
tiny fraction of total federal debt now pegged at
$13.7 trillion.
"Our people are upset," says Jessica Klement of the
Federal Managers Association. She says federal pay
must keep pace with that of the private sector.
James Sherk, a labor analyst at the conservative
Heritage Foundation, says pay freezes are needed
but the better long-term solution is basing the
federal pay system on merit, not longevity.
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Obama’s White House Staffers Salary Freeze Lie ?
Naked Emperor News ^
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2011
Obama’s White House Staffers Salary Freeze Lie ?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obamas-white-house-staffers-salary-freeze-lie-2
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Another Obama lie blown to smitherines.
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What happened to this (from the 2010 State of the Union address)?
Starting in 2011, we are prepared to freeze government spending for three years. (Applause.) Spending related to our national security, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security will not be affected. But all other discretionary government programs will. Like any cash-strapped family, we will work within a budget to invest in what we need and sacrifice what we don't. And if I have to enforce this discipline by veto, I will. (Applause.)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-state-union-address