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Post by: Bam-bam on November 30, 2010, 06:00:27 PM
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Title: Re: To the resident S. Holmes, dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: Master Blaster on November 30, 2010, 06:03:08 PM
gh15 IS lee preist. Hence the epic self loathing.

Title: Re: To the resident S. Holmes, dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: First Blood on November 30, 2010, 06:05:41 PM
that's assuming he is telling the truth in that quote.

I do no think he is a pro bodybuilder. I do think he has competed several times and has competition experience but I do not believe he is a pro. possibly he is a pretty unknown pro.

Title: Re: To the resident S. Holmes, dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: First Blood on November 30, 2010, 06:09:31 PM
I have analyzed many of his posts and if he is a top pro, then it's nasser el sonbaty.

It's not dennis james, that I'm 100% sure about.

I did, in another thread,  a brief (partial) analysis of gh15 a week or so ago.
Title: Re: To the resident S. Holmes, dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: spinnis on November 30, 2010, 06:14:38 PM
probably nasser and a few other randoms which he shares the account with
Title: To the resident S. Holmes
Post by: dj181 on November 30, 2010, 06:17:00 PM
Me thinks dat he is a German fella.
Title: Re: To the resident S. Holmes, dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: andreisdaman on November 30, 2010, 09:52:42 PM
This is him talking about Lee Priest in a recent thread

Lee didnt enter in that much of contests as a pro, and he always did fairly well. How many different bbers placed above Lee ever? 15 guys or so?
Now, I dont keep track of all gh15 posts, but Im sure if you do a cross link with some of his "leaks" contained in his other texts you could narrow the search to as  few as 3-4 guys TOPs.

Of course, all this considering he is not bullshiting us (50/50 chance at least)

Get to work and find out bitches


Nasser or Marcus Ruhl
Title: Re: To the resident S. Holmes, dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: andreisdaman on November 30, 2010, 09:53:22 PM
Although it would be funny if it was Arnold...or Franco
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on December 01, 2010, 05:13:26 PM
Wikileaks ain't got shit on this investigation
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: Stavios on December 01, 2010, 05:16:55 PM
If GH15 wanted you dead.... you would be !


GH15 approved
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: Mr. Magoo on December 01, 2010, 05:17:38 PM
gayer than assuming a poster on getbig tells the truth 100% of the time
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: wes on December 01, 2010, 05:18:45 PM
He`s a 15 year old kid posting from his mothers basement.
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: Stavios on December 01, 2010, 05:20:14 PM
I am gh15
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: Firemuscle on December 01, 2010, 05:21:19 PM
 Like I said before. If he's telling the truth about who he is. He's gotta be either Ruhl or Nasser.

 But he's probably fudging the details about himself to remain anonomous.
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: Spike on December 01, 2010, 05:23:38 PM
i've based alot of my anabolic/hormonal regiment on what gh15 has said ovr the past yr and half

I have made significant improvements in my physique and I also have managed to stay leaner and same size as I was last winter

only thg I dont do is shoot gh in shoulders - I didnt know why he said this was best absorbtion site but I shoot slin there but gh still subq in stomach

I just bought UP YOUR M.ASS and will see how that works - I swear I had my mom go out today and pick me up one on the way home

I also went and got me 8 kits of gh - we;ll see

gh15 mentions top dealers names, old school web sites, reminds me alot of 90s guys I knew when I was like 16-17yr old talkin

bottom line is whoevr the fck he is - he knows his siht and dollars to doughnuts he's stepped on a pro stage which is good enuf for me
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: jaejonna on December 01, 2010, 05:29:01 PM
He`s a 15 year old kid posting from his mothers basement.
According to Bob Chick, so am I ....  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 01, 2010, 06:48:48 PM
Jeff McFarland. The man loves to write. He lived with Mike Morris did he not?
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: PJim on December 01, 2010, 07:27:12 PM
He's italian whichever way, look at his use of words for drugs  "Testerona, Growth Hormona, Raviola, Calzona"
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: Nirvana on December 01, 2010, 07:31:44 PM
Nasser seems the only one who would have interest in revealing all this stuff.

he revealed a lot of shit pros didn't wanna talk about.
Title: Re: To the resident S. Holmes, dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: Howard on December 01, 2010, 07:33:45 PM
I have analyzed many of his posts and if he is a top pro, then it's nasser el sonbaty.

It's not dennis james, that I'm 100% sure about.

I did, in another thread,  a brief (partial) analysis of gh15 a week or so ago.
If it was a pro I would say it may be Nasser.
The american girls as sluts and stuck up is something he might say???
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: michael arvilla on December 01, 2010, 07:46:34 PM
Jeff McFarland
                This what i always thought....(don't really matter/whoever it is has great info!)
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 01, 2010, 07:50:22 PM
i've based alot of my anabolic/hormonal regiment on what gh15 has said ovr the past yr and half

I have made significant improvements in my physique and I also have managed to stay leaner and same size as I was last winter

only thg I dont do is shoot gh in shoulders - I didnt know why he said this was best absorbtion site but I shoot slin there but gh still subq in stomach

I just bought UP YOUR M.ASS and will see how that works - I swear I had my mom go out today and pick me up one on the way home

I also went and got me 8 kits of gh - we;ll see

gh15 mentions top dealers names, old school web sites, reminds me alot of 90s guys I knew when I was like 16-17yr old talkin

bottom line is whoevr the fck he is - he knows his siht and dollars to doughnuts he's stepped on a pro stage which is good enuf for me

That sounds very odd as the shoulders don't generally carry the receptors used for subcutaneous uptake, those are located on the back of the arms, quads, butt and stomach , those are generally the absorption sites used for subQ
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: lesaucer on December 01, 2010, 08:09:58 PM
i am 110% sure that gh15 is nasser
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: Stavios on December 01, 2010, 08:48:24 PM
Jeff McFarland. The man loves to write. He lived with Mike Morris did he not?
could be true 8)

jeff is a great guy, he should post here again if he isn't gh15
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: hazbin on December 01, 2010, 09:07:14 PM
he has always been an asshole to me, i don't know why. i have met most of the pros that people speculate he might be, and only one did i ever have an issue with. but i don't think he is the guy
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: Meso_z on December 01, 2010, 11:00:57 PM
Anyone ever thought gh15 might be a female bber, a woman? All those posts mentioning Nasser as the "beautiful man with glasses", american women, cock sizes and "anatomy"  :-X just isnt right.. :-\
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: smoothasf on December 02, 2010, 12:18:21 AM
Just read some posts by Jeff on another site, he talks about get big though I'm 100% sure gh15 is not him. It's nasser lol.
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: Meso_z on December 02, 2010, 12:21:58 AM
Just read some posts by Jeff on another site, he talks about get big though I'm 100% sure gh15 is not him. It's nasser lol.
Whos "Jeff"?
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: kiwiol on December 02, 2010, 12:25:42 AM
gh15 isn't Jeff McFarland/Bodybuilding related anymore than Dorian Yates is Ronnie Coleman, sorry.

gh15 is not White nor was he born in the US. Reading his cultural observations and his style of writing will show anyone at least that much. He was obviously born outside of the US and now lives there. Has to be in his mid - late 30s.
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: Meso_z on December 02, 2010, 12:27:26 AM
gh15 isn't Jeff McFarland/Bodybuilding related anymore than Dorian Yates is Ronnie Coleman, sorry.

gh15 is not White nor was he born in the US. Reading his cultural observations and his style of writing will show anyone at least that much. He was obviously born outside of the US and now lives there. Has to be in his mid - late 30s.
hi gh15  :)
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: kiwiol on December 02, 2010, 12:31:20 AM
hi gh15  :)

I know as much about steroids and hormones as jtsunami knows about vagina, LOL!
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: smoothasf on December 02, 2010, 12:53:51 AM
I know as much about steroids and hormones as jtsunami knows about vagina, LOL!
   
lmao!
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: Aaron Singerman on December 02, 2010, 01:06:35 AM
Marcus Ruhl?
Title: Re: To the resident S. Holmes, dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: The_Hammer on December 02, 2010, 02:33:39 AM
that's assuming he is telling the truth in that quote.

I do no think he is a pro bodybuilder. I do think he has competed several times and has competition experience but I do not believe he is a pro. possibly he is a pretty unknown pro.



gh15 is a complete fraud.  I posted a picture of my girlfriend who is completely clean even of supplements and he claimed she was on hgh, ect.  That was proof enough for me to know this guy is probably some gymrat who knows about drugs and likes the attention he gets on Getbig so he poses as a pro bodybuilder.
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on December 02, 2010, 02:49:47 AM
i've based alot of my anabolic/hormonal regiment on what gh15 has said ovr the past yr and half

I have made significant improvements in my physique and I also have managed to stay leaner and same size as I was last winter

only thg I dont do is shoot gh in shoulders - I didnt know why he said this was best absorbtion site but I shoot slin there but gh still subq in stomach

I just bought UP YOUR M.ASS and will see how that works - I swear I had my mom go out today and pick me up one on the way home

I also went and got me 8 kits of gh - we;ll see

gh15 mentions top dealers names, old school web sites, reminds me alot of 90s guys I knew when I was like 16-17yr old talkin

bottom line is whoevr the fck he is - he knows his siht and dollars to doughnuts he's stepped on a pro stage which is good enuf for me
x2
Who cares who he is, although I know, he is giving us free top advice, a brilliant man
Title: Re: To the resident S. Holmes, dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: Jaime on December 02, 2010, 02:56:57 AM
gh15 is a complete fraud.  I posted a picture of my girlfriend who is completely clean even of supplements and he claimed she was on hgh, ect.  That was proof enough for me to know this guy is probably some gymrat who knows about drugs and likes the attention he gets on Getbig so he poses as a pro bodybuilder.



This^^. He has come out with some gems. Steve Reves was at 5% bodyfat. You can't put an inch on your arms after 15 months natural training. You lose all of your muscle and shrink to 140lbs if you stop training a month as a natural.

The guy is just a complete fucking imbecile.
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: Stark on December 02, 2010, 03:19:47 AM
Only getbig newfags don't know that GH15 is a shared account ::) ::)
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: w8m8 on December 02, 2010, 04:25:40 AM
Only getbig newbs don't know that GH15 is a shared account ::) ::)

true story
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: dj181 on December 02, 2010, 05:39:58 AM
I really doubt that he is snasser, coz he greatly insulted egyptians, arabs, and middle eastern people in the "Is big ach a natural?" thread.
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: suckmymuscle on December 02, 2010, 05:50:32 AM
He`s a 15 year old kid posting from his mothers basement.

  This...but unfortunately you need to be on the right side of the bell curve to realize this and most Getbiggers are not.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: suckmymuscle on December 02, 2010, 05:52:19 AM
  Getbiggers are so dumb. Greatest collection of retards on the internet. They worship a 15 year-old kid sitting in his mother's basement with a copy of the "World Anabolic Review". Just sad...

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 02, 2010, 05:54:42 AM
It could be Nascar......the wandering eye would explain the horrific typing and spelling skills...
Title: Re: To the resident S. Holmes, dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: First Blood on December 02, 2010, 08:26:09 AM
gh15 is a complete fraud.  I posted a picture of my girlfriend who is completely clean even of supplements and he claimed she was on hgh, ect.  That was proof enough for me to know this guy is probably some gymrat who knows about drugs and likes the attention he gets on Getbig so he poses as a pro bodybuilder.

no he isn't. and anyone can make mistakes. you also need to realize that gh15 likes to express himself in a over the top way, that doesn't mean that the general message isn't golden.

as for him being a pro bodybuilder or not doesn't really matter as he obviously has competition experience and deep knowledge about the cult of bodybuilding.

Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: First Blood on December 02, 2010, 08:31:50 AM
I wrote this in another thread

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I think that gh15:

-was born between 1965 and 1970. he said he was a kid when he watched
michael jackson perform billie jean in 1983 on TV/video.
-isn't a pro bodybuilder but he has competed many times at levels below the pro level. and he has also helped many guys prepare for shows.
-grew up in west germany in the 80s in a neighboorhood with alot immigrants and/or came in contact with alot of immigrants as he played sports (football)
-at least one of his parents is not german. mom is maybe german but the father is maybe from the middle east.
-at least one of his parents is very educated and probably works(worked) in the banking sector and came in contact with jews.
-at least one of his parents was a big fan of ronald reagan (probably the parent that worked in the banking sector)
-parents often had guests at home from all over the world and gh15 would as  a kid listen to the discussions and learn alot about the world. this caused gh15 to be come very interested in world events and world politics.
-his parents traveled alot around the world..maybe due to work. possible one of his parents was stationed outside of germany (maybe bank in hong kong). bank job or maybe in the car industry.
-gh15 has traveled alot including the  middle east(israel among other countries), also been to usa and asia.
-gh15 has friends that are russian jews living in israel.

there are more things I could write: he has lived and/or regularly visited usa and like I said he has traveled alot all over the world. he has been to atleast 'asia' , all around europe, russia, the middle east, usa.

he can evaluate arab physiques  and he can see general differences in physiques from different places. I do believe that when he trained in germany in the 80s he had training partners or guys around him training who were arabs and probably from several different nationalities this gave him opportunity to analyse alot of different physiques.

also interacting with many people from alot of countries gave him an understanding of different cultures. I can see this from small details here and there ( I think most americans who have not been outside of usa will miss these small details. I think you need to be from europe to be able to fully understand gh15).

he understands the middle eastern culture and mentality
he understands the eastern european mentality
he understands the american mentality
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: kiwiol on December 02, 2010, 08:57:34 AM
I wrote this in another thread

there are more things I could write: he has lived and/or regularly visited usa and like I said he has traveled alot all over the world. he has been to atleast 'asia' , all around europe, russia, the middle east, usa.

he can evaluate arab physiques  and he can see general differences in physiques from different places. I do believe that when he trained in germany in the 80s he had training partners or guys around him training who were arabs and probably from several different nationalities this gave him opportunity to analyse alot of different physiques.

also interacting with many people from alot of countries gave him an understanding of different cultures. I can see this from small details here and there ( I think most americans who have not been outside of usa will miss these small details. I think you need to be from europe to be able to fully understand gh15).

he understands the middle eastern culture and mentality
he understands the eastern european mentality
he understands the american mentality

Solid observations and inferences / analysis.

I wrote this a while ago, although I don't really read much of gh15's drug related posts, only his views on culture and other off topic stuff

gh15 is not Dennis James.

My guess is that he

Is not white, but could be of mixed ethnicity (like Nasser)
Wasn't born in America, but lives there and has been doing so for a few years
Is / was a top 10 pro, or at least worked closely with someone like that
Is well travelled
Is at least in his early to mid 30s, if not older
started juicing well before he hit his peak naturally

Most people here have a very short memory span, but those who don't will remember that his posts read normally in the beginning, when he started posting after the Craig Titus fiasco. Compare that writing to the writings of pros or the industry people scattered all over the net and you can find out who he is.
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: First Blood on December 02, 2010, 08:59:53 AM
gh15 isn't Jeff McFarland/Bodybuilding related anymore than Dorian Yates is Ronnie Coleman, sorry.

gh15 is not White nor was he born in the US. Reading his cultural observations and his style of writing will show anyone at least that much. He was obviously born outside of the US and now lives there. Has to be in his mid - late 30s.

it depends on what you mean with white. I do believe that his parents are from different countries but he grew up in germany. his mom may be german but his father is probably from somewhere in the middle east. it's also possible his mom is from former yugoslavia. father probably came to germany as a 'gastarbeiter' (guest worker). his father was probably a smart guy and didn't just want to work in a factory. pretty likely his father was highly educated (when he came to germany from the middle east), so he started to work in the banking sector in germany or possibly as an engineer in the car industry or something like that.

Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: kiwiol on December 02, 2010, 09:03:48 AM
Only getbig newfags don't know that GH15 is a shared account ::) ::)

No way. No one knows who he is and his account most definitely isn't shared.

it depends on what you mean with white.

I meant I get a mixed ethnicity vibe from him, like he could be Nasser, for example.

Nasser El Sonbaty has 15 characters in the name as well :D
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: First Blood on December 02, 2010, 09:04:34 AM
and I do believe the above fits best with nasser el sonbaty (if you limit yourself to well known pro bodybuilders)

so if he actually is a top pro. it is nasser el sonbaty. but if gh15 isn't a well known pro..then he atleast has the background that i wrote about in the earlier post (well I believe so atleast  :) )
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: First Blood on December 02, 2010, 09:07:41 AM
I have read many of nassers inteviews and I have managed to go inside of his head and alot of his thinking (and expressions) goes well with gh15 but there are differences too.
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: First Blood on December 02, 2010, 09:10:34 AM
kiwiol you are a smart guy. very sharp eyes, I can see that you don't miss the small details.  ;) and you understand people.
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: smoothasf on December 02, 2010, 09:15:01 AM
Nasser speaks 4 language I being German however the big thing against him being nasser is....... lee priest is friends with him
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: First Blood on December 02, 2010, 09:16:47 AM
and dennis james is not gh15 . I am 100% sure of that. dennis james is not smart enough to be gh15 and he does not have the cultural or social awareness that gh15 has nor does he have that kind of humor. neither does he have that way of thinking or attention to detail that gh15 has.
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: SilverSpoon on December 02, 2010, 09:17:00 AM
I think it is Troy Zuccolato.   ;)
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: First Blood on December 02, 2010, 09:18:07 AM
Nasser speaks 4 language I being German however the big thing against him being nasser is....... lee priest is friends with him

yes like I said there are some things that don't match up, although some of these things can be explained by what you tell someone to their face does not necessarily mean that you really feel that way.  ;D
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: First Blood on December 02, 2010, 09:20:55 AM
I think it is Troy Zuccolato.   ;)

no  8) . to us who aren't from the us it's very obvious that gh15 is not american and he did not grow up in america. but he admired usa for many years when it comes to politics, music and movies, the american mentality of positive thinking and hard work. (you americans are in general a very hard working people...often work 2 jobs etc).
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: kiwiol on December 02, 2010, 09:28:31 AM
I have read many of nassers inteviews and I have managed to go inside of his head and alot of his thinking (and expressions) goes well with gh15 but there are differences too.

Such as?

I've read (partially) a couple of Nasser's interviews in BB.com after BigBobs posted the links here but nowhere near as much as you have, lol. Someone might sound very different in a formal interview compared to an informal post they make here, esp. with a deliberately flawed style of writing to avoid detection. Same goes for things like loyalty and associations, which can be broken or opposed under an anonymous handle.

So that's not really proof that it's not him, although this is all just speculation haha.


kiwiol you are a smart guy. very sharp eyes, I can see that you don't miss the small details.  ;) and you understand people.

Thank you, Sir. I accept your remarks with gratitude.
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: dj181 on December 02, 2010, 10:15:23 AM
I think that gh15 is a 100% white german fella, with no arab or middle eastern blood. Probably Marcus or Roland.
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: tommywishbone on December 02, 2010, 10:31:01 AM
He's a non-pro. His cumulative knowledge of anabolics and all forms of performance supplementation could be obtained by anyone who trained at Gold's Gym Venice for 6 months.

I would guess he has competed in a few amateur contest somewhere in the world. He hangs around bodybuilding and knows a few people.

I have no explanation for his diabolical syntax.
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: First Blood on December 02, 2010, 10:36:17 AM
I think that gh15 is a 100% white german fella, with no arab or middle eastern blood. Probably Marcus or Roland.

roland isn't 100% german. he was born in poland. and it's not marcus ruhl either, he doesn't have the right background.
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: kiwiol on December 02, 2010, 10:39:18 AM
roland isn't 100% german. he was born in poland. and it's not marcus ruhl either, he doesn't have the right background.

Exactly. Not to mention neither has as good a command of English (his deliberately flawed writing notwithstanding) as gh15.
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: dj181 on December 02, 2010, 10:51:56 AM
But... There are 2 Roland's Kicken-something and Czu-something. Or maybe it's this handsome german blonde fella who was smiling all the time...
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: smoothasf on December 02, 2010, 11:15:44 AM
Kamali posts here too could be him
Title: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: Wiggs on December 02, 2010, 11:41:13 AM
Here is a news article translated from German about Roland's exploits...The article is from 2005 which would make him 42 years old now...BTW Wavelength translated it...
How convenient that he is against rec drugs...to throw people off his scent...

Let's end this shit...It's not Dennis James (100% sure)
And while it was a possibility it was Ruhl, it's not...

I thought about Nasser also, I believe Nasser and Roland know each other since both lived in Germany at one point...Roland was born in Poland...I even think Roland and Nasser might have shared the account at one time or still do...

So there's is your doG of Whores' moans...

It's fucked up how he went down but that's the game you play...

The only last question I would have is did he have to serve his 2 year sentence or did he get probation...I don't know anyone in the German prison sector, I'd like to know what kind of privileges these guys get...I know they are very, very liberal...wouldn't be surprised if they had internet access...what a way to spend your time...too many parallels for it not to be him or linked to him in some way...He intentionally tries to throw people off with bullshit...




Rise and fall of a world champion.
Once Germany's most successful bodybuilder, now in the court room.

Rolan Cziurlok and his wife Bahar tried to start a new living in Poland.

Wiesbaden (Germany). With ambition and steroids he worked his way up from a former apprentice at the company "Glyco" to a world champion bodybuilder. Following his fast rise was the fall: Roland Cziurlok from Taunusstein-Hahn ended up in the drug scene and finally in the court room.

Searching for Roland Cziurlok on Google provides a ton of hits. Around 2700 websites show mainly pictures of the now 37 year old Taunussteiner, who presents his gigantic muscles at competitions, e.g. at the world championship in Seoul, where Cziurlok won the light-heavywheight class at age 26.

Posters of the native Pole can be purchased on the internet for 11 Euros, supplements are sold under his name. In 1997, his most successful year, he founded a supplement company making 200000 DM (100000 Euros) a year. In addition to that he made 5000 DM (2500 Euros) a month as a professional bodybuilder, which is not much considering his investments and health-wise sacrifices. "You have to be an actor to make money in bodybuilding", he says refering to the top man of his profession: Arnold Schwarzenegger, the star of the "Terminator"-Movies and today's governor of California.

In his good years Cziurlok drove a Jaguar. Today, after his fall, he drives an Opel Vectra. "Turbo Diesel", he adds when asked about it in the court room, showing that he still has his pride.

Cziorlok comes from a poor family. In 1980 he moved from Schlesien to Germany. It took him a long time to lean german. He worked his way up through secondary school and a apprenticeship at automobil-subcontractor Glyco. He is a climber that fell deep. In 2000 several muscle tears ended his competitive career. It was a small step from anabolics consum to wodka and cognac. For his disco-weekends, drinking a whole bottle was not uncommon. Additionally, he doped up with amphetamines and sometimes cocain. His drug abuse was not without consequences. His company crashed and Cziurlok has been out of work ever since, without hope to find a new job. Now he wants to return to Poland. "My future lies in the east", he says.

But before that, he must await his conviction. The 37 year old is accused of selling a kilo (2.2 pounds) amphetamine in a Wiesbadener office, which he denies. However, he admits providing amphetamines as well as 150 kilogramms (330 pounds) of cocain to a friend one year ago.

Cziurlok was left with no choice other than confession of the deal: his friend was an undercover cop. Before that he was an employee at a bank, than an insurance company and finally unemployed. In 1996 he talked to Cziurlok at a fitness show about becoming a bodybuilder and competing. "When I became a world champion, a lot of people approached me", says Cziurlok. But with very few he had the kind of connection as with the undercover cop. The friendship lasted several years, Cziurlok even let his friend stay over at his house. A year ago, his friend asked him to provide him with drugs. He begged Cziurlok for selling him drugs because allegedly he needed to make money selling drugs himself. Cziurlok was known in the Wiesbadener scene as someone who has access to drugs or at least know where to get them (from people who he refuses to name until now out of fear). Shortly after the drug deal, Cziurloks carrier was at a low point. The world champion was imprisoned on remand for 28 days.

He got his act together now, he says: no drugs, no alcohol, but instead a therapy, which he is convinced to turn out successful.
Title: Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: Sam on December 02, 2010, 11:45:26 AM
Living the dream.......
Title: Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: Nasty Nate on December 02, 2010, 11:50:34 AM
Other people have said this... it would have to be a shared account tho because gh15 talks about competing on the olympia stage.
Title: Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: BayGBM on December 02, 2010, 11:52:00 AM
 :P
Title: Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: Wiggs on December 02, 2010, 11:52:36 AM
Other people have said this... it would have to be a shared account tho because gh15 talks about competing on the olympia stage.


I know, and Roland has competed in the Olympia on more than one occasion...
Title: Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: Nasty Nate on December 02, 2010, 11:54:59 AM
testosterona mixed esters, equipona, trenbolona, masterona, gh 15iu =

Title: Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: kiwiol on December 02, 2010, 11:55:55 AM
Other people have said this... it would have to be a shared account tho because gh15 talks about competing on the olympia stage.

Blockhead started that rumor - said he spoke to Roland in one of the bodybuilding expos back in 2006 and that the guy hinted he knew who gh15 was.

Don't think it's him, though - gh15 lives in the US and knows English very well, as opposed to Roland C. Don't think Roland has lived in the US at all, esp. to make all the first hand observations gh15 comes up with.
Title: Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: Stavios on December 02, 2010, 11:56:58 AM
IF it's a pro, it's nasser
Title: Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: dj181 on December 02, 2010, 12:04:48 PM
Confirms my suspicions ie. a white german
Title: Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: kiwiol on December 02, 2010, 12:10:39 PM
IF it's a pro, it's nasser

Yep. One of his biggest followers has compiled a serious report on him and is fairly accurate in his assessment

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=357797.msg5056039#msg5056039

Roland Cziurlok seems too dumb to be gh15
Title: Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: no one on December 02, 2010, 12:13:45 PM


i still say its Disgusted.

if i had to pick a pro it would be kamali.

Title: Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: Grape Ape on December 02, 2010, 12:14:09 PM

Don't think it's him, though - gh15  knows English very well,

Please read then re-evaluate:

oh so you think you are not damned yet?  :D here you go food for thought,,

justin briber
britney speers
jesica simson
snoop doggy
let see who else ummm
puff daddy? does he ever had one song that will be remember? thought so
lady gag gag ,,her time is up since she finished stealing all abba ideas

lets see who else
the 50 cent fella,,what song did he ever write other than be careful before ill stab you if you look at me wrong im part of the hood,,


you are all one hit that is not even hit its just hit due to generation nothingness that has very low stimulation level and lose interest fast,,

a society fall and rise by its calture and your culture in americana is the worst it ever been ,,you are going down wether you want it or not,,


the moment you chose that black fella that is MUSLIM to be your president based on internet whore with fake boobs that slept with most liley 100 cocks in her life time,,moment you chose him based on that internet propaganda with out looking into him,,thats when you oose your soul completely,,

so ,,it started in the clinton years,,remember when he fucked monica the jew and put a cigar up her pussy and you all giggled ,,and then your daughters followed closely and started fuckin young student in classrooms,,remembere that? ok,,so it came from clinton era ,,went into george fucked up loonateek bush that didnt knwo how to let pride go and had to work his presidency like the revenge of the god father while crashing you into waste and into a fall youll never see recovery from ,,

and then the cherry on the cake HUSSEIN OBAMA,,you fools chose that internet no one over a war hero a combat pilot,, someone with more exprience who woudnt help you since you already in the shit deep deep,,but just the chosing of hudssein obama show how DUMB americanos are,,

the giels in americana are nothing but whores,,9 out of 10 are whores,,1 out of 10 is normal but to find her takes years,,then you got the guys,,the guys are just drunks ,,they really are drunks no other words to describe it ,,drunks ,,both male female in americnaa could care less about the world ,,and thats how your culture fell both musically and movically new word:)

i can assure you no one  will be with you  through the fall beside one country ,,and it is no great britain ,,the only one that will be beside you by fire and through hell is thatisreal state ,,thatgs it ,,rest of the world are fake scumbags that will leave the moment youre in the shits and they already started

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: The_Hammer on December 02, 2010, 12:22:35 PM
This is like trying to prove the existence of Santa Clause.  Only children believe in him.
Title: Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: kiwiol on December 02, 2010, 12:24:17 PM
Please read then re-evaluate:

His command of English is good, but his writing isn't - he has said more than once that he deliberately writes with lots of grammatical & punctuation errors to avoid detection. If you read some of his first posts (assuming he hasn't deleted them), you'll see that the writing style and flow are the same, but with very little error.

Take away the exaggerated writing style and you'll see his English is no worse than some of the people who post here.
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: smoothasf on December 02, 2010, 12:27:40 PM
Funny that the pros have heard of gh15
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: kiwiol on December 02, 2010, 12:28:47 PM
Kamali posts here too could be him

I'd pick him over any of the German possibilities, but somehow, it doesn't quite fit ;D
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: smoothasf on December 02, 2010, 12:30:36 PM
Yeah if gh15 was kamali he couldn't slag off lee priest calling him small
Title: Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 02, 2010, 12:31:32 PM
His command of English is good, but his writing isn't - he has said more than once that he deliberately writes with lots of grammatical & punctuation errors to avoid detection. If you read some of his first posts (assuming he hasn't deleted them), you'll see that the writing style and flow are the same, but with very little error.

Take away the exaggerated writing style and you'll see his English is no worse than some of the people who post here.
Good point can we get Mars/Tito24 to spell check his posts going forward?
Title: Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: tommywishbone on December 02, 2010, 12:35:37 PM
"... he admits providing amphetamines as well as 150 kilogramms (330 pounds) of cocain to a friend one year ago..."


 ;D Sure he did. So Roland is GH15 and one of the biggest coke dealers in the world. OK.
Title: Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: kiwiol on December 02, 2010, 12:38:22 PM
Good point can we get Mars/Tito24 to spell check his posts going forward?

Mars is busy working for world peace 8)
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: Nirvana on December 02, 2010, 12:38:45 PM
yes like I said there are some things that don't match up, although some of these things can be explained by what you tell someone to their face does not necessarily mean that you really feel that way.  ;D
nasser is extremely objective. in his interviews he may talk bad about someone only to complement a few minutes later.  he doesn't hide peoples bad side.
Title: Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: Wiggs on December 02, 2010, 12:41:56 PM
"... he admits providing amphetamines as well as 150 kilogramms (330 pounds) of cocain to a friend one year ago..."


 ;D Sure he did. So Roland is GH15 and one of the biggest coke dealers in the world. OK.

That is far from being one of the biggest in the world...not even close..
Title: Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: tommywishbone on December 02, 2010, 12:45:05 PM
Dealing 330 pounds of coke in one year is monsterous. I'd say if that number were true, which it isn't, he would be in the top-20 of world coke dealers.    Then again- maybe I'm wrong.  Stay cool Wiggs.
Title: Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: JasonH on December 02, 2010, 12:45:22 PM
I doubt it's Roland Cziurlok somehow - like someone else said - if gh15 is genuinely a pro bodybuilder, then my money's on Nasser. From what I've seen of the way he speaks, Nasser's written word here on the forum reads pretty much the same way.
Title: Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: Wiggs on December 02, 2010, 12:49:42 PM
The way he writes, you can tell it's a guy deliberately making mistakes...Nasser's command of the English language is very, very good....Bobs, and Alex can attest to this and I've spoken to Nasserole on many occasions at the Olympia and he's incredible intelligent and friendly...he's a kick ass guy...
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: Wiggs on December 02, 2010, 12:51:03 PM
nasser is extremely objective. in his interviews he may talk bad about someone only to complement a few minutes later.  he doesn't hide peoples bad side.

100% correct...it's nothing personal he speaks the truth...
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: Meso_z on December 02, 2010, 01:16:10 PM
Such as?

I've read (partially) a couple of Nasser's interviews in BB.com after BigBobs posted the links here but nowhere near as much as you have, lol. Someone might sound very different in a formal interview compared to an informal post they make here, esp. with a deliberately flawed style of writing to avoid detection. Same goes for things like loyalty and associations, which can be broken or opposed under an anonymous handle.

So that's not really proof that it's not him, although this is all just speculation haha.


Thank you, Sir. I accept your remarks with gratitude.

Here, watch and listen to this interview..

Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: no one on December 02, 2010, 01:19:00 PM
  Getbiggers are so dumb. Greatest collection of retards on the internet. They worship a 15 year-old kid sitting in his mother's basement with a copy of the "World Anabolic Review". Just sad...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

and yet your a millionaire mensa member who keeps 25k in his wallet at all times, but still continues to post here.

 ::)
Title: Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
Post by: littleguns on December 02, 2010, 01:22:42 PM
In a PBW interview with Nasser back in 06 ( I believe) Nasser said something along the lines of "I may be gh15, or I may not be"
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: French on December 02, 2010, 01:52:10 PM
 8)

Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: noworries on December 02, 2010, 02:33:06 PM
  Getbiggers are so dumb. Greatest collection of retards on the internet. They worship a 15 year-old kid sitting in his mother's basement with a copy of the "World Anabolic Review". Just sad...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Who has said they worship you?  And I thought you were a little older.
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: andreisdaman on December 02, 2010, 02:38:19 PM
gh15 could be the "Lion of Lebanon", since he sounds Arab and  HAS competed on the Olympia stage...but i'm not sure how much he knows about GH since he was at his peak in the 80's
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: Nasty Nate on December 02, 2010, 02:57:57 PM
gh15 could be the "Lion of Lebanon", since he sounds Arab and  HAS competed on the Olympia stage...but i'm not sure how much he knows about GH since he was at his peak in the 80's

Nah i dont think its Samir...

Nasser is still my number one choice for being gh15... all the long rambling on about things seems a lot like Nasser too because he does that in interviews.
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 02, 2010, 03:15:55 PM
I've been contemplating this a long time, Roland Cziurlok is/was one of the biggest dealers in Europe for a long time, he is also known as the insulin/gh king because apparently he can get in insane conditioning/size in a matter of months, he def. knows the right dosages and secrets..
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: dj181 on December 02, 2010, 03:48:01 PM
I find it hard to believe that he is snasser (an arab/middle easterner) coz he clearly insults arabs and middle easterners. So if he really is snasser then it's a brutal case of self-hatred.
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: First Blood on December 02, 2010, 04:07:13 PM
it's not about self hatred, it is an ability that alot of people with mixed parents have. he may very well have one parent who is from the middle east. and it's not about insulting.. it's about telling the truth in specific cases.
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: Nirvana on December 02, 2010, 04:09:56 PM
or maybe he's just another alex23 gimmick
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: First Blood on December 02, 2010, 04:11:09 PM
gh15 could be the "Lion of Lebanon", since he sounds Arab and  HAS competed on the Olympia stage...but i'm not sure how much he knows about GH since he was at his peak in the 80's

no. not samir. gh15 is younger than samir and he does not fit the profile in many different ways.
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: no one on December 02, 2010, 04:12:06 PM
gh15 could be the "Lion of Lebanon", since he sounds Arab and  HAS competed on the Olympia stage...but i'm not sure how much he knows about GH since he was at his peak in the 80's

you noticed this too eh? i thought i was the only one so i didnt want to say anything! lol

my best friend is persian, and he talks in the same manner GH types. to anyone else reading this- if you've ever met a persian or arab you'd know what i mean.
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: First Blood on December 02, 2010, 04:13:53 PM
you noticed this too eh? i thought i was the only one so i didnt want to say anything! lol

my best friend is persian, and he talks in the same manner GH types. to anyone else reading this- if you've ever met a persian or arab you'd know what i mean.

yes, that is one of the reasons I said one of his parents is from the middle east. I do not believe both his parents are tho.

baba  ;)
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: WhiteCastle on December 02, 2010, 04:39:14 PM
Maybe it's Lonnie Teper.
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 02, 2010, 05:21:37 PM
What about a genius Bob Chick alter? And if not him, Tom Prince was an English major. GH15 at times writes perfect English
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 02, 2010, 05:24:10 PM
What about a genius Bob Chick alter? And if not him, Tom Prince was an English major. GH15 at times writes perfect English

The more reason to suspect it's probably a shared/joint account by a few guys, one of whom maybe a former pro.
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: dj181 on December 02, 2010, 05:31:51 PM
Did Roland have an outstanding chest? Coz gh15 claims that his chest was one of his best body parts.
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: Wiggs on December 02, 2010, 05:33:02 PM
Did Roland have an outstanding chest? Coz gh15 claims that his chest was one of his best body parts.

it's good
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: First Blood on December 02, 2010, 05:33:41 PM
What about a genius Bob Chick alter? And if not him, Tom Prince was an English major. GH15 at times writes perfect English

na, both are americans. gh15 is not an american. they don't have the cultural knowledge nor the temperament that gh15 has. 0% possibility. (just my opinion, obviously)

gh15 has also heavily critized tom prince. (all drugs etc)
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 02, 2010, 05:47:44 PM
Did Roland have an outstanding chest? Coz gh15 claims that his chest was one of his best body parts.
;D
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: Nasty Nate on December 02, 2010, 10:41:54 PM
;D

His chest and traps are fuckin huge
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: Spike on December 03, 2010, 06:21:20 AM
NO TRIS

gh15 said he h8s seo too
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: CalvinH on December 03, 2010, 07:10:30 AM
GH15=Alex23 ;)
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: smoothasf on December 03, 2010, 07:55:01 AM
That chest is insane. Can't see any oil on him like you stated, every muscle looks grainy and hard
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2010, 05:46:03 AM
GH15=Alex23 ;)

makes total sense.
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: spude on December 04, 2010, 06:00:27 AM
I think it`s Gunther.
Seems like a smart guy, has beaten Lee Priest, is definitely big enough to call him dwarf, has an apartment in cali, his competing years match with gh etc...
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: dj181 on December 04, 2010, 07:42:14 AM
Yeah, it could be Gunther, coz he is also a white german, and this agrees with ma theory of who gh15 is ;D
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: noworries on December 04, 2010, 07:59:30 AM
you noticed this too eh? i thought i was the only one so i didnt want to say anything! lol

my best friend is persian, and he talks in the same manner GH types. to anyone else reading this- if you've ever met a persian or arab you'd know what i mean.

I have met Samir many many times back when we trained and he just doesn't seem to be the type of guy with that kind of negative and hateful attitude.  gh15 seems to be very bitter.  Probably alot from not being a very good bodybuilder who won NO shows to not getting very good results from his stupidity with steroids.  He obviously did not get good results and he has to always put people down who were and are better than he ever was.  If someone looks great then they had to have taken a boatload of drugs.  People who look better than he did even being a natural (Reeves) he has to try and convince everyone he tooks roids to look that good.  gh15 is very knowledgable but just a bitter loser and underacheiver in bodybuilding so he has to put everyone else down to make himself feel better.
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: Jake_W on December 04, 2010, 08:07:55 AM
He's a non-pro. His cumulative knowledge of anabolics and all forms of performance supplementation could be obtained by anyone who trained at Gold's Gym Venice for 6 months.

I would guess he has competed in a few amateur contest somewhere in the world. He hangs around bodybuilding and knows a few people.

I have no explanation for his diabolical syntax.

X2
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: chris-a on December 04, 2010, 09:48:58 AM
i walked past nasser at the olympia once and heard him mutter 'bloofy' under his breath when he saw my girlfriend's tits
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: tbombz on December 04, 2010, 09:58:58 AM
It's either Nasser or an alex23/kiwiol gimmick
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: gh15 on December 04, 2010, 10:01:31 AM
I have met Samir many many times back when we trained and he just doesn't seem to be the type of guy with that kind of negative and hateful attitude.  gh15 seems to be very bitter.  Probably alot from not being a very good bodybuilder who won NO shows to not getting very good results from his stupidity with steroids.  He obviously did not get good results and he has to always put people down who were and are better than he ever was.  If someone looks great then they had to have taken a boatload of drugs.  People who look better than he did even being a natural (Reeves) he has to try and convince everyone he tooks roids to look that good.  gh15 is very knowledgable but just a bitter loser and underacheiver in bodybuilding so he has to put everyone else down to make himself feel better.

no actually im very very happy in my bodybuild career,, i placed very well,,the problem i find is that bodybuilder never say the truth to their fellow bodybuilder,,it is like lair priest try to keep the secret from another bodybuilder,,almost lik he live in beliveing that it keeps him progressing and winning,,which is balonie!,,i am very very bitter and mad that a fella like priest who read me here religiously like any other professional lie to those kids,,he come out and lie,,i do not know why he would not shut his mouth like shawn did ,,he just come out and lie about it ,,and those kids really inject 1 cc of deca and expect to be big,,they really expect to walk 220 at single digit injecting 1 cc of nandrolone into the ass,,then they get it all egged on their face after they wasted all of their parents money or their own money and cant afford the rent,,because liar priest told them its one deca and 1 ampola winstrol which ofcoure is complete and utter lie,,

the moment you see bodybuilder come out and talk openly about gh use  ,,the huge doses that every one take at the top,,and the mega doses of roids,,and the none stop use,,no NO TIME OFF,,always on ,,moment they come out and atleast talk about it lightly ,,thats the time gh15 retire and go in peace into steroidheaven

kapeesh?

good

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: Voice of Doom on December 04, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
Kapeesh?




Italian with probably one parent or some heritage from the middle east to cover his views on Western society.
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: Shockwave on December 04, 2010, 10:55:53 AM
Wouldnt it be funny if it was Levrone, or someone totally under our radar? Lol.
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: StickStickly on December 04, 2010, 11:35:43 AM
Here, watch and listen to this interview..


ROFL!!! People approaching him in a semi circle like he is the prey? What kind of event is this "FIBO"?
Title: Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
Post by: disco_stu on December 04, 2010, 11:42:21 AM
i've based alot of my anabolic/hormonal regiment on what gh15 has said ovr the past yr and half
....

bottom line is whoevr the fck he is - he knows his siht and dollars to doughnuts he's stepped on a pro stage which is good enuf for me

more fool you...

all he knows is what others are doing, and what others are saying.

if that means to you that he "knows his shit", then thats great. you keep going in life dude. nothing like being ignorant of fact and basing your decisions on the advices of other equally ill informed.
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: Jack T. Cross on December 04, 2010, 12:33:46 PM
Someone said Ruhl doesn't have "command" of the English language.  That's wrong.  He speaks English very well.
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: Wiggs on December 04, 2010, 12:37:31 PM
Someone said Ruhl doesn't have "command" of the English language.  That's wrong.  He speaks English very well.

Yep...He's come a long way since 99...Wolf also...Rockell, not so much...
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: kiwiol on December 04, 2010, 04:34:34 PM
It's either Nasser or an alex23/kiwiol gimmick

I know fuckall about juicing and have never had a gimmick. And gh15 is a couple of leagues above Alex in some areas.

Don't think he's posting as anyone else.
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: tbombz on December 04, 2010, 04:39:54 PM
I know fuckall about juicing and have never had a gimmick. And gh15 is a couple of leagues above Alex in some areas.

Don't think he's posting as anyone else.
now I'm convinced that it's you and Alex.  ;D
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: kiwiol on December 04, 2010, 04:41:32 PM
now I'm convinced that it's you and Alex.  ;D

I'm flattered, Prof. Dongz
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: First Blood on December 04, 2010, 04:53:42 PM
It's either Nasser or an alex23/kiwiol gimmick

it's not alex23. how can you even think that?  ??? seriously guys.

*sigh*, you americans miss the details in gh15 posts.  ;)
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: tbombz on December 04, 2010, 05:50:55 PM
I'm flattered, Prof. Dongz
even more convinced  :D
 

it's not alex23. how can you even think that?  ??? seriously guys.

*sigh*, you americans miss the details in gh15 posts.  ;)
   ::) firstblood you are one of the main people i was talking to with my thread about the gh15 obsession.
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: kiwiol on December 04, 2010, 09:47:27 PM
even more convinced  :D

Hence my naming you Prof. Dongz
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: tbombz on December 04, 2010, 09:51:09 PM
Hence my naming you Prof. Dongz
you used to just say "us y boarders have known for a long time who gh15 is"

 and then you started making in depth speculative analyzations that prodded others to become more interested and curious as well.

obvious plloy to pull in people to your gimmick
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: kiwiol on December 04, 2010, 09:55:47 PM
you used to just say "us y boarders have known for a long time who gh15 is"

 and then you started making in depth speculative analyzations that prodded others to become more interested and curious as well.

obvious plloy to pull in people to your gimmick

I made the Y boarders comment because BlockHead told me and about 4 or 5 others that it's R Cziurlok (back in 2006). But then he took it back before leaving Getbig, saying that the guy only hinted he knew who gh15 was. So I don't say that anymore.

And again, I don't run any gimmicks. Never have. Anything I have to say, I say it under this handle.
Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: First Blood on December 05, 2010, 12:01:24 PM
even more convinced  :D
 
   ::) firstblood you are one of the main people i was talking to with my thread about the gh15 obsession.

gh15 has elevated getbig to a new level.

I didn't mean to come off as an a-hole but it's pretty obvious that he is not somekind of gimmick. and he is not american, very obvious to me.

Title: Re: Is GH15 Roland Cziurlok - enough info now!
Post by: dustin on December 05, 2010, 12:18:12 PM
no actually im very very happy in my bodybuild career,, i placed very well,,the problem i find is that bodybuilder never say the truth to their fellow bodybuilder,,it is like lair priest try to keep the secret from another bodybuilder,,almost lik he live in beliveing that it keeps him progressing and winning,,which is balonie!,,i am very very bitter and mad that a fella like priest who read me here religiously like any other professional lie to those kids,,he come out and lie,,i do not know why he would not shut his mouth like shawn did ,,he just come out and lie about it ,,and those kids really inject 1 cc of deca and expect to be big,,they really expect to walk 220 at single digit injecting 1 cc of nandrolone into the ass,,then they get it all egged on their face after they wasted all of their parents money or their own money and cant afford the rent,,because liar priest told them its one deca and 1 ampola winstrol which ofcoure is complete and utter lie,,

the moment you see bodybuilder come out and talk openly about gh use  ,,the huge doses that every one take at the top,,and the mega doses of roids,,and the none stop use,,no NO TIME OFF,,always on ,,moment they come out and atleast talk about it lightly ,,thats the time gh15 retire and go in peace into steroidheaven

kapeesh?

good

gh15 approved

Hey, I want to go to steroid heaven as well! Put in the good word for me :D