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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: tallgerman on December 05, 2010, 04:46:23 AM
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curious
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Me and without whey, protein powder, just 2 to 3 workout per week for max 45 minutes.
Just a bit of Bcaa's + creatine and 3 meal a day.
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I've used HIT only for almost 10 yrs, it works. Have done everything else and wouldnt switch back
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curious
i have achieved the most muscle i ever had using hit principles.
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i have achieved the most muscle i ever had using hit principles.
::)
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^ Just to add, you never had any "muscle".
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Moderate/lightish weight... volume training is more for effective for building mass than HIT (heavy 1 set bullshit) training - IMO.
HIT... is an injury waiting to happen.
Any form a training will maintain muscle mass once you’ve built it... even very minimal training.
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Moderate/lightish weight... volume training is more for effective for building mass than HIT (heavy 1 set bullshit) training - IMO.
HIT... is an injury waiting to happen.
Any form a training will maintain muscle mass once you’ve built it... even very minimal training.
I agree
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Mentzer built his base with conventional training methods/volume,and maintained it with HIT and upping the dosage.
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are we talking viable, yates-style, 4 day a week, several exercises per bodypart HIT
ellington darden total body 3 days a week crap
or mentzers later ideas whereby you were doing a total of 3 worksets every 4-7 days (or less frequent, as you 'progressed') retardation
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i have achieved the most muscle i ever had using hit principles.
There's an advertisement
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This guy. Actually HIT works especially for people with bad genetics recovery is a key.
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i have achieved the most muscle i ever had using hit principles.
worst endorsement ever.
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i have achieved the most muscle i ever had using hit principles.
ahahahahahahahahahahahah a
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Mentzer was a head case.
I really would never advocate training once a week if you are trying to build. That is an awful lot of wasted time where you could have been building muscle.
Each to their own.
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I've been using the principles of HIT since 1995. Never worked out more than 3 days a week. currently train each muscle group once every 9 days. Never have done more than one set to failure since then. When i'm training consistently and eating properly, i'm in top shape in three months.
I've never had a reason to change my training regime since doing this. I do do my own variation to the system whilst maintaining the core principles.
And yes i look very good.
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>:( fuck you guys
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Me and without whey, protein powder, just 2 to 3 workout per week for max 45 minutes.
Just a bit of Bcaa's + creatine and 3 meal a day.
pics?
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I've used HIT only for almost 10 yrs, it works. Have done everything else and wouldnt switch back
pic?
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I've been using the principles of HIT since 1995. Never worked out more than 3 days a week. currently train each muscle group once every 9 days. Never have done more than one set to failure since then. When i'm training consistently and eating properly, i'm in top shape in three months.
I've never had a reason to change my training regime since doing this. I do do my own variation to the system whilst maintaining the core principles.
And yes i look very good.
pic??
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how about some pics from you tallgerman ?
did you ever get that body by science book ?
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I'm curious as to what HIT really is ???
Seems like HIT is just the same as volume training but you don't do really do warmups after the first exercise for a muscle group (which makes sense to me).
I guess I do HIT-style training in that I typically build up to 1-2 sets to failure on my first exercise and then don't really warm up much for the next exercise(s) and am out of the gym fairly quickly.
Example yesterdays back workout:
5 sets of deadlift, failure on last two (one high rep set, one low rep set).
Cable rows, two warmup sets, one set to failure.
Pullups 6 sets of 5 (obviously this isn't really "HIT" at all just something I do differently than the rest).
If my shoulders/bicep weren't messed up I would have also done chest:
4-6 sets of bench, 3 rest pause sets to failure.
Also I train everything twice a week.
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Whether I have a good body or not is subject to interpretation but I certainly wasn't making much gains training six days a week doing volume training. And I did so for about 8 years. One of the main reasons that moved me over to HIT was that I could no longer justify the amount of time spent in the gym with the gains, or lack thereof, I was making. Since I was making no gains training 6x/week 2hrs/session if I moved to making no gains training 3x/wk 1hr/session it would be a vast improvement in the quality of my life. Also, I was introduced to "HIT" first by Arthur Jones and his theories simply made sense. And whether is gave me bigger muscles or not it certainly gets you in great physical shape because of the intensity and fast pace of the workouts. Jone's belief was to train your muscles anaerobically and you body aerobically. That's why you went from one set to another with very little if any rest.
I've been training 3x/wk for over 20 years now and there was a period of about 10 years where I only trained 2x/wk. But I was heavily involved in sports and doing a lot of other training.
If time is limited you can certainly get in pretty decent shape training only 2x/wk if they are spaced out properly. Say, Monday and Friday.
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All the guys advocating HIT, put up pics or STFU
the sad truth is all the guys who've ever hyped up HIT built their physiques with regular volume training and steroids, also
HIT guys don't count the 5 warm up sets they do before their 'final' set till failure..
bunch of bullshit
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All the guys advocating HIT, put up pics or STFU
the sad truth is all the guys who've ever hyped up HIT built their physiques with regular volume training and steroids, also
HIT guys don't count the 5 warm up sets they do before their 'final' set till failure..
bunch of bullshit
Yes, we, or maybe I should say, I, don't count warm up sets because I don't consider them work sets. I am not trying to push myself to the limit and exceed my previous performance. It would be foolish to do so. To take your very first set using the most weight you can move for a given amount or reps.
For example, say I am doing chest. I will super set the pec dec flies with inclines. My work set with the flies will be at, say, 130 lbs that I've gotten 8 reps previously, failing at 9. The incline machine press will be 160 lbs for 7 reps, failing at 8.
I will warm up on the incline using maybe 60 lbs for about 6 reps, go up to 90 for maybe about 4, a 110 for 2, 130 for 2. No where am I pushing myself. Just warming up. Then something similar with flies. 50 for 5, 80 for 3, 100 for 2. So why would I count them as sets? The idea of HIT is to take a set to the limit where you can do any more.
Then I will make a mean face, say, "Yo buddy! Nothing left to do but to do it. Light weight, baby!" Then do a real set of flies at 130 trying to get the 9th rep. When I can no longer complete that rep I do a static hold, then some burns or partials, drop the weight 30 lbs and repeat, then one more drop set then it's immediately to the incline. Again I do a static hold when I can no longer complete a rep, then do 3 rest pause reps. Taking 5 breaths between rest pause reps. Then do some more partials/burns, followed by 2 or 3 drops sets. Again with the static holds and partials but no rest pause. Then one super set doing cable flies followed by Hammer declines. The only rest between these two super sets is the time it takes to walk over to the cable and set the weight. No drop sets this time but some rest pause and partials with the Hammer press.
Again, I don't know if this is the best way to develop muscle but I am breathing hard, sweating and hopefully getting in good physical condition. This while the rest of the members are sitting between sets watching TV, text messaging or playing games on their cells or bull shitting. I even saw one person txting while they were doing leg presses.
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how about some pics from you tallgerman ?
did you ever get that body by science book ?
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I gave up on body by science and am now doing random 4 time a week volume mix fo weights and jogging.
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considering adding sprints and maybe a timed mile and some pushups along the lines of body changes when ahs to perform idea, not sure where i got that idea
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Well, I guess that I got a pretty good body using a few of the principles of HIT, namely HIGH-INTENSITY and LOW VOLUME, but I did train rather frequently. After a while, I really lower the frequency to once or twice a week and even lower volume, and I basically looked like sHIT lol So I can only assume at that point in my training I was actually under-training and certainly de-conditioned. But, one question remains in this puzzle, and that it how much did my aerobic training have to do with my rather decent body? When I cut down my frequency I also cut out my aerobic training/conditioning.
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I gave up on body by science and am now doing random 4 time a week volume mix fo weights and jogging.
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I did HIT in the late 90's and got decent results. But for me, going higher volume got me better results.
HIT is cool if you are too busy to train too much and just want something that's not time consuming. But I don't think it's optimal.
Really, why not just pump out a few more sets for each bodypart and blast it more???
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I gave up on body by science and am now doing random 4 time a week volume mix fo weights and jogging.
Now I know you're a troll.
Nice attempt. But.... FAIL.
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curious
Outed.
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Coz it's not about pumping up the muscles Blackflag, it's about putting greater and greater loads upon the muscles ie PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD
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Coz it's not about pumping up the muscles Blackflag, it's about putting greater and greater loads upon the muscles ie PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD
Doing about three sets feels like you haven't even trained. I dont care how "heavy" and "intense" it is.
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Coz it's not about pumping up the muscles Blackflag, it's about putting greater and greater loads upon the muscles ie PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD
Yeah I know that. But this can be done with higher volume than HIT.
Also you can overload your muscles, and give them a great pump in the same workout. It's not like you must choose one or the other.
Usually I go heavy on 2 or 3 sets, then for 2 or 3 more sets I go for pump right after.
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I gave up on body by science and am now doing random 4 time a week volume mix fo weights and jogging.
You should try HIT, you look soft as a twinkie. And does anyone in the world have their pic taken anymore?
And you know what, after all these years, i could give two shits if people think it is ineffective. I can pick apart any other training regime by its deficiencies whereas the only shortcomings of HIT are the potential to emotinally wear yourself out or your joints risking injury from the constant heavy assault. My knees, for example, are fucked but i don't regret it. Better have fucked up knees from heavy squats than from 'running' like a maniac for 20yrs.
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You should try HIT, you look soft as a twinkie. And does anyone in the world have their pic taken anymore?
Wheres your pic stud?
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You should try HIT, you look soft as a twinkie. And does anyone in the world have their pic taken anymore?
It's a fake pic.
He's a gimmick/troll.
Can't believe people fall for it.
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Wheres your pic stud?
Okay, where's your pic? Whoever that pic belongs to, i would kick sand on him at the beach. I'm not the biggest person anywhere but i fucking look like i workout.
Edit: thx Blackflag, i don't keep up with joke characters and what not. HIT works, just like any other training program that you follow to the letter and believe in it. I personally think it's the best method for anyone that's natural and wants to get stronger, put on size. But not everyone can hang with it. People NEVER believe when i tell them i workout 3 days a week for 2.5hrs a week total.
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Of course one can use progressive overload on hi-rep sets ie 20 reps or more, but I think that it's much better and more effective to use it on lower reps ie not more than 8 reps per set
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Fuxian philosophy - 2-3 hardcore sets
best of both worlds