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Hold the brownies! Bill could limit bake sales
By MARY CLARE JALONICK, Associated Press
Mary Clare Jalonick, Associated Press
Fri Dec 3, 6:21 pm ET
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.WASHINGTON – Don't touch my brownies! A child nutrition bill on its way to President Barack Obama — and championed by the first lady — gives the government power to limit school bake sales and other fundraisers that health advocates say sometimes replace wholesome meals in the lunchroom.
Republicans, notably Sarah Palin, and public school organizations decry the bill as an unnecessary intrusion on a common practice often used to raise money.
"This could be a real train wreck for school districts," Lucy Gettman of the National School Boards Association said Friday, a day after the House cleared the bill. "The federal government should not be in the business of regulating this kind of activity at the local level."
The legislation, part of first lady Michelle Obama's campaign to stem childhood obesity, provides more meals at school for needy kids, including dinner, and directs the Agriculture Department to write guidelines to make those meals healthier. The legislation would apply to all foods sold in schools during regular class hours, including in the cafeteria line, vending machines and at fundraisers.
It wouldn't apply to after-hours events or concession stands at sports events.
Public health groups pushed for the language on fundraisers, which encourages the secretary of Agriculture to allow them only if they are infrequent. The language is broad enough that a president's administration could even ban bake sales, but Secretary Tom Vilsack signaled in a letter to House Education and Labor Committee Chairman George Miller, D-Calif., this week that he does not intend to do that. The USDA has a year to write rules that decide how frequent is infrequent.
Margo Wootan of the Center for Science in the Public Interest says the bill is aimed at curbing daily or weekly bake sales or pizza fundraisers that become a regular part of kids' lunchtime routines. She says selling junk food can easily be substituted with nonfood fundraisers.
"These fundraisers are happening all the time," Wootan said. "It's a pizza sale one day, doughnuts the next... It's endless. This is really about supporting parental choice. Most parents don't want their kids to use their lunch money to buy junk food. They expect they'll use their lunch money to buy a balanced school meal."
Not all see it that way.
Palin mocked the efforts last month by bringing a plate of cookies to a school speech in Pennsylvania. Rep. John Kline of Minnesota, the senior Republican on the House Education and Labor Committee, said the federal government "has really gone too far" when it is deciding when to hold bake sales.
Some parents say they are perplexed by what the new rules might allow.
In Seminole, Fla., the Seminole High Warhawks Marching Band's booster club held a bake sale to help send the band's 173 members to this year's Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade in New York. One of the bake sale's specialties: New York-style cheesecake, an homage to the destination they'd pursued for 10 years.
"Limiting bake sales is so narrow-minded," said Laura Shortway, whose 17-year-old daughter, Mallory, is a drummer in the band. "Having bake sales keeps these fundraisers community based, which is very appealing to the person making the purchase."
Several school districts and state education departments already have policies suggesting or enforcing limits on bake sales, both for nutritional reasons and to keep the events from competing for dollars against school cafeterias. In Connecticut, for instance, about 70 percent of the state's school districts have signed on to the state education department's voluntary guidelines encouraging healthy foods in place of high-sugar, high-fat options.
Under those rules, bake sales cannot be held on school grounds unless the items meet nutrition standards that specifically limit portion sizes, fat content, sodium and sugars. That two-ounce, low-fat granola bar? Probably OK, depending what's in it. But grandma's homemade oversized brownie with cream cheese frosting and chocolate chips inside? Probably not.
One loophole in Connecticut: The nutritional standards apply if the food is being sold at a bake sale, but not if it's being given away free, such as by a parent for a child's birthday.
"If a mom wants to send in cupcakes to celebrate St. Patrick's Day, that would not be subject to the state guidelines," said Thomas Murphy, a spokesman for the state's education department.
In New York City, a rule enacted in 2009 allows bake sales only once a month, and they must comply with nutritional standards and be part of a parent group fundraiser.
Wootan says she hopes the rules will prompt schools to try different options for fundraising.
"Schools are so used to doing the same fundraisers every year that they need a strong nudge to do something new," she says. "The most important rebuttal to all of these arguments is that schools can make money other ways — you don't have to harm kids health."
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Associated Press writer Stephanie Reitz contributed to this report from Hartford, Conn.
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Its only tyranny when Bush did it.
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it's about the issues :)
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Margo Wootan of the Center for Science in the Public Interest says the bill is aimed at curbing daily or weekly bake sales or pizza fundraisers that become a regular part of kids' lunchtime routines. She says selling junk food can easily be substituted with nonfood fundraisers.
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it's about the issues :)
Seems to me this is an issue, what business is it of the federal government, better yet where is their constitutional authority in the matter? They just arbitrarily decide that they get to decide what and how much you eat?
Your about as libertarian as Saul Alinsky ::)
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i'm a-okay with schools not selling shit carb/fat garbage to kids.
it's one thing if the parent is the one making the choice - but you expect a 3rd grader to pass up a plate of garbage? nope.
So yes, I'm a-okay with CHILDREN being given limited choices. I wouldn't be happy if my kid was drinking a hawaiian punch and eating a pile of brownies every day.
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;D
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i'm a-okay with schools not selling shit carb/fat garbage to kids.
it's one thing if the parent is the one making the choice - but you expect a 3rd grader to pass up a plate of garbage? nope.
So yes, I'm a-okay with CHILDREN being given limited choices. I wouldn't be happy if my kid was drinking a hawaiian punch and eating a pile of brownies every day.
regulating fund raisers and pizza day?
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i'm a-okay with schools not selling shit carb/fat garbage to kids.
it's one thing if the parent is the one making the choice - but you expect a 3rd grader to pass up a plate of garbage? nope.
So yes, I'm a-okay with CHILDREN being given limited choices. I wouldn't be happy if my kid was drinking a hawaiian punch and eating a pile of brownies every day.
Yeah how about taking a little personal responsibility and sending a lunch to school, that's what I have always done for my kid, has never been a problem
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240 - i am a libertarian. ::)
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regulating fund raisers and pizza day?
Hell yes. Cause I remember high school very well. My first high school - a private catholic school - only had fairly healthy choices. The worst we could possibly eat for lunch was dries. no soda, no candy.
Then, my second high school was, of course, a public high school. And everyone at my table would eat a bag of chips, 2 cookies, and a can of hawaiian punch every day.
So yeah, in the same way you'd never let a 1-year old choose if he wanted baby formula or chocolate milk all day... students just don't have the thought processes to do what is best for their bodies.
Adults - piss off. let them eat whatever they want. but allowing kids to eat shit all day, nope. You multiply that times 40 million students and we have a major health crisis that you and I have to pay for, remember? ;) Remember it's self-serving that this whole generation doesn't grow up fat and diabetic.
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what about when they go home?
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Hell yes. Cause I remember high school very well. My first high school - a private catholic school - only had fairly healthy choices. The worst we could possibly eat for lunch was dries. no soda, no candy.
Then, my second high school was, of course, a public high school. And everyone at my table would eat a bag of chips, 2 cookies, and a can of hawaiian punch every day.
So yeah, in the same way you'd never let a 1-year old choose if he wanted baby formula or chocolate milk all day... students just don't have the thought processes to do what is best for their bodies.
Adults - piss off. let them eat whatever they want. but allowing kids to eat shit all day, nope. You multiply that times 40 million students and we have a major health crisis that you and I have to pay for, remember? ;) Remember it's self-serving that this whole generation doesn't grow up fat and diabetic.
Again its the parents responsibility not the fucking government, what part of that don't you understand? Should we just surrender all our parenting responsibilities to the government? Maybe we can have a generation of the American version of the hitler youth.
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240 - i am a libertarian. ::)
333386 - I have visible abs and you do not ;D
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Again its the parents responsibility not the fucking government, what part of that don't you understand? Should we just surrender all our parenting responsibilities to the government? Maybe we can have a generation of the American version of the hitler youth.
parents are not at school with the 8 year old who has to decide 2 cookies is enough.
Mind you, I do not care about the kids' health. I do care about an entire generation who ain't exercising (thanks to web) growing up obese and crashing the healthcare system with their damn juvenile diabetes. If every school in america only served lean meat and fruit/veggies, the amount of $ that you, me, and 33 has to pay in healthcare costs would be lower. No debating that.
what about when they go home?
They can do whatever they want when they go home. But they at least got 2 healthy meals of the day - which means 2/3 better chance we don't inherit the cost of their obese asses.
Another point is that the American education system is what, 37th worldwide? You improve the nutrition and watch that shit improve as well. How well could YOU function with 7 cookies in your gut, versus a chicken breast and carrots?
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333386 - I have visible abs and you do not ;D
I am natural and bench 315 x 10 flat, 425 max, 315 x 7 incline, and own you in any lift.
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I am natural and bench 315 x 10 flat, 425 max, 315 x 7 incline, and own you in any lift.
You're strong, but anyone at 200 at your age with a gut who trains should have 315 x 10. But shirtless, I have abs and veins and you do not :) So if you wanna attack the messenger ("240 - i am a libertarian), then I have to defend myself pointing out my abs versus yours :)
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parents are not at school with the 8 year old who has to decide 2 cookies is enough.
Mind you, I do not care about the kids' health. I do care about an entire generation who ain't exercising (thanks to web) growing up obese and crashing the healthcare system with their damn juvenile diabetes. If every school in america only served lean meat and fruit/veggies, the amount of $ that you, me, and 33 has to pay in healthcare costs would be lower. No debating that.
They can do whatever they want when they go home. But they at least got 2 healthy meals of the day - which means 2/3 better chance we don't inherit the cost of their obese asses.
Another point is that the American education system is what, 37th worldwide? You improve the nutrition and watch that shit improve as well. How well could YOU function with 7 cookies in your gut, versus a chicken breast and carrots?
For fuck sake, I guess the parents teaching a child good eating habits is pointless lets just give up our parenting responsibilities ::). You know how healthcare costs would be? If the fucking government wasn't involved. Strange how everything started to go to shit after the HMO act. But no lets just bury our heads and pretend this fucking government created scheme is great and its really the people that are the problem.
Gee and why is the US educational system ranked so bad, gee I bet you can trace it back to FUCKING GOVERNMENT involvement. My kid functions just fine because I send good food for her to eat at lunch and include healthy snacks as well.
I guess everyone else is just incompetent, maybe I should be running things.
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You're strong, but anyone at 200 at your age with a gut who trains should have 315 x 10. But shirtless, I have abs and veins and you do not :) So if you wanna attack the messenger ("240 - i am a libertarian), then I have to defend myself pointing out my abs versus yours :)
I have done 5 shows and can diet down and look great.
You have ZERO chance of outlifting me.
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For fuck sake, I guess the parents teaching a child good eating habits is pointless lets just give up our parenting responsibilities ::). You know how healthcare costs would be? If the fucking government wasn't involved. Strange how everything started to go to shit after the HMO act. But no lets just bury our heads and pretend this fucking government created scheme is great and its really the people that are the problem.
Gee and why is the US educational system ranked so bad, gee I bet you can trace it back to FUCKING GOVERNMENT involvement. My kid functions just fine because I send good food for her to eat at lunch and include healthy snacks as well.
I guess everyone else is just incompetent, maybe I should be running things.
Dude, kids eat like shit because parents eat like shit. You and I, and other getbiggers who count protein and carbs... we're the exception.
I dont expect a 8 year old to possess the mental capacity to choose between a cookie and an apple. Do you? I dont care how good parenting is - parents aren't in school with them!
I have done 5 shows and can diet down and look great.
You have ZERO chance of outlifting me.
LOL! This is why I love you man. You are a strong fcker. Still, liberal ass kai pwned you in that show.
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True. But my first show was an npc show and I was clean and only 22 y/o
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True. But my first show was an npc show and I was clean and only 22 y/o
Are you saying kai was probably a Gore voter?
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Are you saying kai was probably a Gore voter?
I have a pic w ronnie from that show
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I have a pic w ronnie from that show
no shit... thats awesome. had he won O #1 at that point, or was he about to? He was insane back then. Props for competing, I will give you that. Although I think the diuretics may have taken away your ability to judge talent (IE: baby girl) ;)
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Never did any of that. Ill scan it and post it during the week.
I was and have always been clean as a whistle.
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Dude, kids eat like shit because parents eat like shit. You and I, and other getbiggers who count protein and carbs... we're the exception.
I dont expect a 8 year old to possess the mental capacity to choose between a cookie and an apple. Do you? I dont care how good parenting is - parents aren't in school with them!
LOL! This is why I love you man. You are a strong fcker. Still, liberal ass kai pwned you in that show.
So tell me this then, why are schools serving crap? Who runs the school system? I'll give you 3 guess and the first 2 don't count.
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impressive.
serious Q, do you attribute your hair loss to BBing? or are all the dudes on your moms side bald as well?
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So tell me this then, why are schools serving crap? Who runs the school system? I'll give you 3 guess and the first 2 don't count.
cause pepsi pays them a buttload of cash to put in the vending machines?
LOL I remember being a teacher in FL in what, 99? When they put in the bright green mountain dew machines in the MIDDLE SCHOOL where i was at. disgusting.
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Completely genetic.
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cause pepsi pays them a buttload of cash to put in the vending machines?
LOL I remember being a teacher in FL in what, 99? When they put in the bright green mountain dew machines in the MIDDLE SCHOOL where i was at. disgusting.
So now all of the sudden you trust them to do the right thing? Naivety is your strong suit
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The issue is not food so much as lack of physical activity.
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So now all of the sudden you trust them to do the right thing? Naivety is your strong suit
I like the idea that Obama wants to kick greedy ass pepsi out of the schools.
Don't you?
And yes, I agree with 33 about the nature of lack of physical activity. but until they turn off the internet (probably won't be too long), kids aren't going to turn of Fb and WOW and go play in the yard anytime soon. Diet is a factor (which affects our wallet) which we CAN control.
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I like the idea that Obama wants to kick greedy ass pepsi out of the schools.
Don't you?
And yes, I agree with 33 about the nature of lack of physical activity. but until they turn off the internet (probably won't be too long), kids aren't going to turn of Fb and WOW and go play in the yard anytime soon. Diet is a factor (which affects our wallet) which we CAN control.
greedy ass pepsi? Hmmm strange analogy, I bet you buy into the whole class warfare scam as well. You should just get something strait in your mind right now, if it isn't a power granted in the constitution I don't want the federal government involved, end of story.
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Ahh, what's a thread without 240 "I complain about the Patriot Act taking away my rights but I'm cool with the government telling me what I can and can't feed my children" is back's stunning analysis of yet another Obama plan.
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well, greedy ass school districts allowing greedy ass pepsi to set up shop.
The LAST thing an adult needs is garbage mountain dew in their system, but it's their call.
But kids? They don't have a clue. They'd drink a case of mountain dew if they had enough $1 bills.
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See, if michelle obama was telling me I can't have snacks in my house, I'd tell her to piss off.
But at school, I can't be there to limit my kids' options. So yes, I'm okay if the kids only have healthy choices.
And really - we're crying because 7 year olds cannot buy as many mountain dews as they want? WTF? I mean, really? parents can pack whatever they want in the school lunch. But when it comes to unfettered access to carb/fat shit from machines - they're protecting kids from themselves. Nothing wrong with telling an 8 year old that he can't have soda at 11 am LMAO...
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See, if michelle obama was telling me I can't have snacks in my house, I'd tell her to piss off.
But at school, I can't be there to limit my kids' options. So yes, I'm okay if the kids only have healthy choices.
And really - we're crying because 7 year olds cannot buy as many mountain dews as they want? WTF? I mean, really? parents can pack whatever they want in the school lunch. But when it comes to unfettered access to carb/fat shit from machines - they're protecting kids from themselves. Nothing wrong with telling an 8 year old that he can't have soda at 11 am LMAO...
You cry about any non-Obama related bill/law that so much as hints at taking away rights you don't even use. Funny how your tune changes anytime Obama pushes something.
You = hypocrite.
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See, if michelle obama was telling me I can't have snacks in my house, I'd tell her to piss off.
But at school, I can't be there to limit my kids' options. So yes, I'm okay if the kids only have healthy choices.
And really - we're crying because 7 year olds cannot buy as many mountain dews as they want? WTF? I mean, really? parents can pack whatever they want in the school lunch. But when it comes to unfettered access to carb/fat shit from machines - they're protecting kids from themselves. Nothing wrong with telling an 8 year old that he can't have soda at 11 am LMAO...
Here we go again, why is the federal government, let alone the first lady, who in all reality means nothing in the government involved? Show me the can't drink pepsi clause in the constitution and I will concede the argument. At best this a state/local issue, but of course since the dept of education was created the federal government has its nose where it doesn't belong.
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Again - the govt is regulating bake sales for fucks sake.
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it's not about rights for adults. cause adults can pack 5 kitkats in their kids' lunch every day. Which is fine.
But when it comes to allowing kids to take in a healthy tuna sandwich - then throw it away and eat 17 cookies? I'm not down with that - and most parents probably aren't either.
I was an ardent bush voter ten years ago when I bitched about the mt Dew machines in middle school - and yes, the kids were some wired up loonies with 3 mountain dews in their system by lunchtime each day.
So yeah, kids don't have the ability to make rational decisions when it comes to nutrition. Yes, if obama decides to limit what i can buy at my grocery store, I'll join you in the complaints. But schools are part-time foster parents - and if i'm sending my kid to another parent all day, I damn sure don't want him to be able to buy shit food all day.
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Here we go again, why is the federal government, let alone the first lady, who in all reality means nothing in the government involved? Show me the can't drink pepsi clause in the constitution and I will concede the argument. At best this a state/local issue, but of course since the dept of education was created the federal government has its nose where it doesn't belong.
hear me again - adults should be able to eat whatever they want.
But just as kids don't have the mental capacity to buy a handgun, buy ciggs, or serve in the military or drive a car - they dont have the mental capacity to limit their dietary junk consumption.
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it's not about rights for adults. cause adults can pack 5 kitkats in their kids' lunch every day. Which is fine.
But when it comes to allowing kids to take in a healthy tuna sandwich - then throw it away and eat 17 cookies? I'm not down with that - and most parents probably aren't either.
I was an ardent bush voter ten years ago when I bitched about the mt Dew machines in middle school - and yes, the kids were some wired up loonies with 3 mountain dews in their system by lunchtime each day.
So yeah, kids don't have the ability to make rational decisions when it comes to nutrition. Yes, if obama decides to limit what i can buy at my grocery store, I'll join you in the complaints. But schools are part-time foster parents - and if i'm sending my kid to another parent all day, I damn sure don't want him to be able to buy shit food all day.
So you want the government to correct your poor parenting skills. My parents made me bag lunches 4-5 times a week and sent me in with no money to blow on that junk. You know what? It worked.
They usually let me buy lunch on Friday (pizza day). Was much appreciative of that. 8)
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it's not about rights for adults. cause adults can pack 5 kitkats in their kids' lunch every day. Which is fine.
But when it comes to allowing kids to take in a healthy tuna sandwich - then throw it away and eat 17 cookies? I'm not down with that - and most parents probably aren't either.
I was an ardent bush voter ten years ago when I bitched about the mt Dew machines in middle school - and yes, the kids were some wired up loonies with 3 mountain dews in their system by lunchtime each day.
So yeah, kids don't have the ability to make rational decisions when it comes to nutrition. Yes, if obama decides to limit what i can buy at my grocery store, I'll join you in the complaints. But schools are part-time foster parents - and if i'm sending my kid to another parent all day, I damn sure don't want him to be able to buy shit food all day.
Your just not going the answer the question are you? You can try to justify this in your mind anyway you want, but the federal government is yet again exceeding it constitutional authority.
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hear me again - adults should be able to eat whatever they want.
But just as kids don't have the mental capacity to buy a handgun, buy ciggs, or serve in the military or drive a car - they dont have the mental capacity to limit their dietary junk consumption.
Most kids I know don't have jobs, so they would have to get money from the parents, strange how that works
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So you want the government to correct your poor parenting skills. My parents made me bag lunches 4-5 times a week and sent me in with no money to blow on that junk. You know what? It worked.
Um, down here in south FL, about 80% of the kids in the last school I taught at were on free lunch lol...
And there are some parents who are too lazy, ignorant, whatever, to pack their lunch.
I'm saying since you and me are, unforunately, going to be paying for these little fatties' healthcare as they turn 30 and battle diabetes, etc - we may as well do what we can to limit the damage they do during their formative growth years?
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Um, down here in south FL, about 80% of the kids in the last school I taught at were on free lunch lol...
And there are some parents who are too lazy, ignorant, whatever, to pack their lunch.
I'm saying since you and me are, unforunately, going to be paying for these little fatties' healthcare as they turn 30 and battle diabetes, etc - we may as well do what we can to limit the damage they do during their formative growth years?
Fuck it lets just cut out the middle man and let the government sterilize anyone they decide isn't fit to be a parent ::)
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Um, down here in south FL, about 80% of the kids in the last school I taught at were on free lunch lol...
And there are some parents who are too lazy, ignorant, whatever, to pack their lunch.
I'm saying since you and me are, unforunately, going to be paying for these little fatties' healthcare as they turn 30 and battle diabetes, etc - we may as well do what we can to limit the damage they do during their formative growth years?
Should be a decision between the schools and the parents. Funny how quickly things get done when people rally together. Imagine if one parent took some time to actually round up forces to get their school district to change the food it sells.
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So are we going to have a bake sale czar now.
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So are we going to have a bake sale czar now.
wouldn't surprise me, we need one for everything else.
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Is it me or is the media in general almost taking a more mocking tone towards the bama admn with crappola like this?
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Is it me or is the media in general almost taking a more mocking tone towards the bama admn with crappola like this?
And well they should, they have time to worry about this but when it comes to the economy or jobs nothing seems to get done. Bunch of oxygen thieves in DC
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That's because everyone knows they shot their wad w the stim bill and have nothing left.
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Should be a decision between the schools and the parents. Funny how quickly things get done when people rally together. Imagine if one parent took some time to actually round up forces to get their school district to change the food it sells.
this can't happen when the school district makes the decision for all 190 schools at the same time, based upon financials.
it's not like they can have a PTA meeting and let the parents vote. It's a corporate decision between very large districts and junk food companies.
And the advertising... that's another thing.... Chips Ahoy ads on school buses. WTF?
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240 - do you still consider yourself a libertarian?
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240 - do you still consider yourself a libertarian?
of course I do. I also consider myself able to recognize when you attack me instead of "refudiating" my point ;)
Kids aren't smart enough to make their own nutritional decisions. Do you agree/disagree?
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So you prefer michelle obama deciding these things foer you?
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So you prefer michelle obama deciding these things foer you?
If the greedy ass school district boards are going to give themselves double salaries (yes, they can do that in FL, collecting their pension while continuting working) and other financial abuses---
and govt intervention won't allow them to continue exploiting students for their own financial benefit---
and said intervention will cost you and me FAR LESS in the future from diabetic 28 year old sloths...
Then yes, i'm okay with the govt telling the schools they can't get in bed with Pepsi and Frito lay ;)
IMO, you are very wise in some areas man... but this particular topic is one that i have direct experience in - and IMO anything that limits the school districts from selling out kids (allowing them choice so they can get paid) if a very good thing. I'd be happy if local mayors were stopping 11 year olds form being able to buy ten mountain dews a day... but if they won't do it, i'm okay with federal level govt doing it.
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I am natural and bench 315 x 10 flat, 425 max, 315 x 7 incline, and own you in any lift.
any pics of you?
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The kids will only hog out after school.
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I already posted them. Ill post the dieted down one w ronnie coleman for long ago later this week. In person ronnie is ridiculous!
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I already posted them. Ill post the dieted down one w ronnie coleman for long ago later this week. In person ronnie is ridiculous!
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link post please
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I have a regular photo I have to take a picture of. This was awhile ago but ronnie was a massive beast. I was about 185 and look like a shrimp compared to him.
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if the kids hog after school - it's under the parents' watchful eye.
at school, parents sure can't tell the teacher "you keep my 1st grader away from the cookie line". And you can't trust a little kid to know what to do, or follow rules. I mean, a cookie looks good, and a 1st grader has about as much self-control as a poodle.
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Why don't we spent this amount of time focusing on what these kids are or are not learning in the classroom vs their abusing the teachers, getting preggo, pissing in the hallways, etc?
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wiat, i thought you wanted the govt to stay out of curriculum? ;)
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You know damn well what I meant.
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yeah, but i would rather the govt do a widespread act to prevent districts from selling out to junk food companies - at the expense of the health of an entire generation - than attempt to mandate curriculum which is legitimately managed more effectively at the state level.
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And when this program fails. Then what?
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And when this program fails. Then what?
and when a meteor ruins the whole earth, so what?
maybe it'll fail, maybe not. if it means 1% fewer kids in america are eating shit (and handing you and me the healthcare costs), i'm down with it :)
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Its all ok so long as its for the "children" right?
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i dont care about all that.
I care about the brutal healthcare costs I will have to absorb because 40 million d-bags grow up on 40 tsp of sugar a day ;)
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yeah, but i would rather the govt do a widespread act to prevent districts from selling out to junk food companies - at the expense of the health of an entire generation - than attempt to mandate curriculum which is legitimately managed more effectively at the state level.
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Hell yes. Cause I remember high school very well. My first high school - a private catholic school - only had fairly healthy choices. The worst we could possibly eat for lunch was dries. no soda, no candy.
Then, my second high school was, of course, a public high school. And everyone at my table would eat a bag of chips, 2 cookies, and a can of hawaiian punch every day.
So yeah, in the same way you'd never let a 1-year old choose if he wanted baby formula or chocolate milk all day... students just don't have the thought processes to do what is best for their bodies.
Adults - piss off. let them eat whatever they want. but allowing kids to eat shit all day, nope. You multiply that times 40 million students and we have a major health crisis that you and I have to pay for, remember? ;) Remember it's self-serving that this whole generation doesn't grow up fat and diabetic.
My high school had a food court like in the mall...so you know what the kids ate...meatball subs, Chic-Fil-Aish nuggets, subs the size of a compact car...
But, something needs to give...the majority of parents don't regulate OR set good examples of good eating habits, we are a TRULY OBESE country...partly because we believe more is better, and the other part because we are a lazy nation...
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You guys are being unfair. Bake sales are the reason why this country is fat. This bill will encourage "Steamed Vegetable Drives" and increase life expectancy by over 34% in ways that are impossible to verify.
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My high school had a food court like in the mall...so you know what the kids ate...meatball subs, Chic-Fil-Aish nuggets, subs the size of a compact car...
But, something needs to give...the majority of parents don't regulate OR set good examples of good eating habits, we are a TRULY OBESE country...partly because we believe more is better, and the other part because we are a lazy nation...
my public school was a little poorer. you either got school lunch pizza/chik nuggets...
Or you went to the vending machines or snack booth - and got 3 for $1 chocolate chip cookies, a few bags of chips, and sugary drinks.
you are totally right - the majority of parents do'nt set good examples for a skill that is essential for a healthy life. Imagine if ppl were complaining "the schools have no right to teach our kids to read - that is the paren'ts job!"
Remember you learn two sets of skills in school - and each state lists them. The first is the academic, and the second is the functional life skills. They're called Goal 3 standards in FL (at least they used to be). the skills for academia were the sunshine states standards (math, lang arts, and other subjects).
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240 - this article is about bake sales and fundraisers, not the lunch counter.
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240 - this article is about bake sales and fundraisers, not the lunch counter.
some schools have fundraisers/sales/booths year-round in schools. programs like gifting don't get enough funding for field trips, etc. So they sell junk every day.
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some schools have fundraisers/sales/booths year-round in schools. programs like gifting don't get enough funding for field trips, etc. So they sell junk every day.
Shouldnt Michelle Obama and Bama himself set an example 240?
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Shouldnt Michelle Obama and Bama himself set an example 240?
So no pics buff guy?
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So no pics buff guy?
I already posted them once. I have the ronni one away and will get later in the week.
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http://www.nationaljournal.com/domesticpolicy/the-government-is-cracking-down-on-school-bake-sales-20140725
Barely a month after federal regulations for school cafeterias kicked in, states are already pushing back.
Specifically, they're fighting nutrition standards that would considerably alter one of the most sacred rituals of the American public school system: bake sales.
Twelve states have established their own policies to circumvent regulations in the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010 that apply to "competitive snacks," or any foods and beverages sold to students on school grounds that are not part of the Agriculture Department's school meal programs, according to the National Association of State Boards of Education. Competitive snacks appear in vending machines, school stores, and food and beverages, including items sold at bake sales.
Georgia is the latest state to announce an exemption to the federal regulations, which became effective July 1 for thousands of public schools across the country. Its rule would allow 30 food-related fundraising days per school year that wouldn't meet the new healthy nutritional standards, which call for more healthy options and less junk food that could contribute to the nation's child-obesity problem.
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The pushback is not about students' taste buds, but their wallets. Food fundraisers are a crucial source of revenue for schools, state education officials say. "Tough economic times have translated into fewer resources and these fundraisers allow our schools to raise a considerable amount of money for very worthwhile education programs," the Georgia Department of Education wrote in a recent press release. "While we are concerned about the obesity epidemic, limiting food-and-beverage fundraisers at schools and school-related events is not the solution to solving it."
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The statement called the federal guidelines on fundraisers "an absolute overreach of the federal government."
Tennessee also plans to allow 30 food-fundraising days that don't comply with federal standards per school year. Idaho will allow 10, while Illinois is slowly weaning schools off their bake sales, hoping to shrink them from an annual 36 days to nine days in the next three years. Florida and Alabama are considering creating their own exemption policies.
State-level resistance to the healthy-eating regulations has support in Washington. This spring, Republicans tried to delay implementation of new school cafeteria requirements by one year through a proposed 2015 Agriculture Department spending bill.
Proponents of the requirements, meanwhile, have scoffed at Georgia's suggestion of a War on Brownies. "Pushing back on so-called federal government overreach by allowing a huge number of unhealthy school fundraisers is not only bad politics, it's irresponsible, puts children's health at risk, and undermines parents' efforts to feed their children healthfully," Margo Wootan, director of nutrition policy at the Center for Science in the Public Interest told Politico on Friday. "There are plenty of healthy fundraising options that are practical—and as or more profitable than selling junk food."
Sure, they could be practical. But are they delicious?