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Title: Rest in peace - Elizabeth Edwards
Post by: 240 is Back on December 06, 2010, 02:58:59 PM
 Source: CNN

(CNN) - Elizabeth Edwards is surrounded by family and friends in her North Carolina home after being informed by her doctors that further cancer treatment would be unproductive.

"Elizabeth has been advised by her doctors that further treatment of her cancer would be unproductive," the Edwards family said Monday in a statement. "She is resting at home with family and friends and has posted this message to friends on her Facebook page."

Edwards' message reads:

"You all know that I have been sustained throughout my life by three saving graces – my family, my friends, and a faith in the power of resilience and hope. These graces have carried me through difficult times and they have brought more joy to the good times than I ever could have imagined. The days of our lives, for all of us, are numbered. We know that. And, yes, there are certainly times when we aren't able to muster as much strength and patience as we would like. It's called being human.

"But I have found that in the simple act of living with hope, and in the daily effort to have a positive impact in the world, the days I do have are made all the more meaningful and precious. And for that I am grateful. It isn't possible to put into words the love and gratitude I feel to everyone who has and continues to support and inspire me every day. To you I simply say: you know."
 
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 06, 2010, 03:00:47 PM
And the far left were slobbering over that dirtbag.   ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: tonymctones on December 06, 2010, 04:49:19 PM
sad sad stuff man, thoughts and prayers are with her and her family
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: tu_holmes on December 06, 2010, 05:13:38 PM
And the far left were slobbering over that dirtbag.   ::)  ::)

Really?

John McCain left his first wife for the new rich one. The far right still loves his ass too.

You think that's ok?

Come on man. Get that out of here.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: Dos Equis on December 06, 2010, 05:18:58 PM
That's pretty sad. 

Thank God we didn't wind up with John Edwards as president.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: Skip8282 on December 06, 2010, 05:28:04 PM
Really?

John McCain left his first wife for the new rich one. The far right still loves his ass too.

You think that's ok?

Come on man. Get that out of here.



I think that's the first I've heard that!  The far right hates McCain and considers him to be a RINO - especially when considering his immigration stance.

But, I think you're right in the comparison.  His hot first wife was disfigured and he bolted for a younger hottie.  Pretty fucked up thing to do.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: tu_holmes on December 07, 2010, 12:28:47 AM
That's pretty sad. 

Thank God we didn't wind up with John Edwards John McCain as president.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: tonymctones on December 07, 2010, 03:44:11 AM
Fixed.
mccain would have had the economy in a much better place by now holmes

Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 07, 2010, 04:20:08 AM
Two words - kagan and sotomayor.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: Hedgehog on December 07, 2010, 04:23:01 AM
Two words - kagan and sotomayor.

What about them?
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 07, 2010, 04:31:17 AM
Mccain would have made better sc picks.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: tu_holmes on December 07, 2010, 10:43:40 AM
mccain would have had the economy in a much better place by now holmes



Conjecture.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: tonymctones on December 07, 2010, 10:52:48 AM
Conjecture.
LOL certainty...

mccain = no health care plan, no stalling on bush tax cuts, no talk of cap/trade

which translates into stability of factors that businesses use to make decisions. Obama has undoubtedly done more to cause instability in the business realm than he has to stabilize.

if you feel different then please lay out your argument...

you think mccain would have done half of the stuff obama would have done?

if obama had simply sat on his hands and done nothing the economy would be better off than it is now...

Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: Mr. Magoo on December 07, 2010, 01:49:03 PM
RIP  :(
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 07, 2010, 01:55:36 PM
I actually met them at one of our stores a few years ago, obviously before all this stuff came out.  They bought a top end elliptical for their daughter.  Sad to hear this about her.....and he = shitbag.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: Fury on December 07, 2010, 02:53:51 PM
Elizabeth Edwards dies

(Reuters) - Elizabeth Edwards, a best-selling author and the estranged wife of former Democratic vice presidential nominee John Edwards, who endured revelations about her husband's infidelity, died on Tuesday at age 61.

Edwards died of cancer at her home Tuesday morning, media reports said.

Edwards was first diagnosed with breast cancer and treated in 2004. In 2007, the cancer returned and spread to other parts of her body.

She wrote two best-selling books, "Resilience" and "Saving Graces," about her long battle with cancer and the scandal surrounding her husband, a wealthy trial lawyer who served as a U.S. senator from North Carolina and twice ran for president.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6B66O820101207
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 07, 2010, 02:59:55 PM
John must feel like a total pos right now. 
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: Dos Equis on December 07, 2010, 03:29:24 PM
John must feel like a total pos right now. 

He should, because that's exactly what he is. 
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: 240 is Back on December 07, 2010, 04:14:49 PM
very sad.  she loved her country.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on December 07, 2010, 04:30:58 PM
RIP.

Has to be rough fo the kids.





Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: Straw Man on December 07, 2010, 07:59:30 PM
And the far left were slobbering over that dirtbag.   ::)  ::)

can't you give it a rest for one friggin day

the woman just died
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: Straw Man on December 07, 2010, 08:07:21 PM
mccain would have had the economy in a much better place by now holmes



how would he have done that?
Title: Re: Rest in peace - Elizabeth Edwards
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 07, 2010, 08:07:49 PM
I was talking about john edwards, I should have been more clear about that.
Title: Re: Rest in peace - Elizabeth Edwards
Post by: Straw Man on December 07, 2010, 08:12:35 PM
I was talking about john edwards, I should have been more clear about that.

I know you were

his ex wife just died, the mother if his children

if you can't say anything respectful then why not just stfu for a day or two about it
Title: Re: Rest in peace - Elizabeth Edwards
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 07, 2010, 08:14:51 PM
Why don't you say the same to the others on this site? 
Title: Re: Rest in peace - Elizabeth Edwards
Post by: Straw Man on December 07, 2010, 08:17:56 PM
Why don't you say the same to the others on this site? 

such as?
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: tonymctones on December 07, 2010, 08:20:30 PM
how would he have done that?
LOL certainty...

mccain = no health care plan, no stalling on bush tax cuts, no talk of cap/trade

which translates into stability of factors that businesses use to make decisions. Obama has undoubtedly done more to cause instability in the business realm than he has to stabilize.

if you feel different then please lay out your argument...

you think mccain would have done half of the stuff obama would have done?

if obama had simply sat on his hands and done nothing the economy would be better off than it is now...



if you disagree or feel obama has done more to help the economy than to hurt it please do tell
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: Straw Man on December 07, 2010, 08:23:59 PM
if you disagree or feel obama has done more to help the economy than to hurt it please do tell


how would no health care plan or no "talk" of cap and trade have improved the economy

the bush tax cuts are moot because they've been in effect the entire time

tell me exactly how the first two things would have improved the economy and exactly what those improvements would be

Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: Straw Man on December 07, 2010, 08:25:12 PM
if you disagree or feel obama has done more to help the economy than to hurt it please do tell

Both Republicans and the CBO say that the stimulus package helped the economy

why don't you ask them
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: tonymctones on December 07, 2010, 08:32:49 PM
how would no health care plan or no "talk" of cap and trade have improved the economy

the bush tax cuts are moot because they've been in effect the entire time

tell me exactly how the first two things would have improved the economy and exactly what those improvements would be
LMAO for someone in finance you sure have a funny understanding of basic business principles...

the lack of health care and cap and trade is what would have helped the economy...you disagree that the health care bill has injected an enormous amount of uncertainty into businesses? you think talking about passing cap and trade has helped to stabilize the possible expenses to businesses?

bush tax cuts are certainly not moot, by not extending them and playing with letting them expire you AGAIN inject uncertainty into the businesses...

many businesses dont know what their health costs will be b/c of this pos bill, many companies are worried about energy costs due to possible cap and trade

do you go out and spend money when you dont know what your expenses will be?

why do you and obama expect businesses to do so?
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: tonymctones on December 07, 2010, 08:34:36 PM
Both Republicans and the CBO say that the stimulus package helped the economy

why don't you ask them
LOL youre right 1.5 to 3 million jobs or something like that spending 800 billion dollars?

hahahahahahha only an obamabot would consider that successful...

the little that the stimulus bill did in the short run pales in comparison to the harm obama has done with other actions...
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: Straw Man on December 07, 2010, 09:55:47 PM
LMAO for someone in finance you sure have a funny understanding of basic business principles...

the lack of health care and cap and trade is what would have helped the economy...you disagree that the health care bill has injected an enormous amount of uncertainty into businesses? you think talking about passing cap and trade has helped to stabilize the possible expenses to businesses?

bush tax cuts are certainly not moot, by not extending them and playing with letting them expire you AGAIN inject uncertainty into the businesses...

many businesses dont know what their health costs will be b/c of this pos bill, many companies are worried about energy costs due to possible cap and trade

do you go out and spend money when you dont know what your expenses will be?

why do you and obama expect businesses to do so?
the lack of healt care legislation and "talk" of cap and trade policy would have created job....how?

bush tax cuts are moot because we've had them for the last 7 years (ten if you want to start counting from 2001), we have them now and it seems we'll have them for the next 2 years

lets hear some specific details of how this works
Title: Re: Rest in peace - Elizabeth Edwards
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 08, 2010, 05:44:05 AM
I was talking about john edwards, I should have been more clear about that.

The thread is about Elizabeth.  Either you are lying and making excuses for your statement after having it shoved down your pathetic little throat or once again you have shown to have the worst case of ADHD in existence because you can't remember what the thread is about. 

Either case, you = FAIL ONCE AGAIN.
Title: Re: Rest in peace - Elizabeth Edwards
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 08, 2010, 05:46:40 AM
The thread is about Elizabeth.  Either you are lying and making excuses for your statement after having it shoved down your pathetic little throat or once again you have shown to have the worst case of ADHD in existence because you can't remember what the thread is about. 

Either case, you = FAIL ONCE AGAIN.

 ::)  ::)

Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: tonymctones on December 08, 2010, 06:41:22 AM
the lack of healt care legislation and "talk" of cap and trade policy would have created job....how?

bush tax cuts are moot because we've had them for the last 7 years (ten if you want to start counting from 2001), we have them now and it seems we'll have them for the next 2 years

lets hear some specific details of how this works
oh goodness really ???

ok so businesses like to plannnnnnnnn things, who knew right?  ::)

if they dont know what their health care costs will be as many expect them to go up b/c of the bs health care bill or they dont know what their energy costs will be b/c of a possible passing of cap and trade. It makes those PLANNNNNNNS that we just talked about much much harder to make.

BECAUSE they dont know how much they will have to spend on such thing, if for example they dont know whether their health care costs will be 1 million or 2 million dollars a year how do you expect them to make plans? take on new projects?

hire new employees more importantly? when they are unsure of exaclty how much they will have to pay for said employee?

the diddling of bush tax cust is whats important here straw, they could have been extended a year ago, 2 years ago in order to assure businesses of what there tax liabilities will be instead obama chose to chase agenda yet again and play with letting them expire....again how are businesses supposed to plan when they do not know what their tax liabilities will be?

if you disagree i expect specifics as welll.... ;)
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: Straw Man on December 08, 2010, 06:47:32 PM
oh goodness really ???

ok so businesses like to plannnnnnnnn things, who knew right?  ::)

if they dont know what their health care costs will be as many expect them to go up b/c of the bs health care bill or they dont know what their energy costs will be b/c of a possible passing of cap and trade. It makes those PLANNNNNNNS that we just talked about much much harder to make.

BECAUSE they dont know how much they will have to spend on such thing, if for example they dont know whether their health care costs will be 1 million or 2 million dollars a year how do you expect them to make plans? take on new projects?

hire new employees more importantly? when they are unsure of exaclty how much they will have to pay for said employee?

the diddling of bush tax cust is whats important here straw, they could have been extended a year ago, 2 years ago in order to assure businesses of what there tax liabilities will be instead obama chose to chase agenda yet again and play with letting them expire....again how are businesses supposed to plan when they do not know what their tax liabilities will be?

if you disagree i expect specifics as welll.... ;)

can you boill this down to one point ?

are you talking about uncertainty in the cost of healthcare

or uncertainty about a marginal tax rate?

Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: tonymctones on December 08, 2010, 08:04:53 PM
can you boill this down to one point ?

are you talking about uncertainty in the cost of healthcare

or uncertainty about a marginal tax rate?


uncertainty in all things mentioned...
Title: Re: Rest in peace - Elizabeth Edwards
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 09, 2010, 06:30:31 AM
Westboro Church Members to Protest at Elizabeth Edwards' Funeral
 Source: WRAL News in Raleigh


The Westboro Baptist Church plans to protest for 45 minutes before the funeral set for 1 p.m. at Edenton Street United Methodist Church in downtown Raleigh, according to the church's website.

The Westboro church website throws invective at Edwards but gives no specific reason why they chose to protest her funeral.

The Topeka, Kansas, church is well known for holding anti-homosexual protests at funerals, often at those of soldiers. The church, which is not affiliated with any larger Baptist group, is led by Fred Phelps and mostly attended by his family members.

Edwards, 61, died Tuesday at her Chapel Hill home after a six-year battle with breast cancer.

Read more: http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/8749610 /
Title: Re: Elizabeth Edwards stops cancer treatment, releases statement
Post by: Straw Man on December 09, 2010, 09:14:15 AM
uncertainty in all things mentioned...

do you think employers had any "certainty" about healthcare cost prior to the healthcare legislation?
Rates could go up at will, terms could be changed at will, care could be denied at will.

Regarding taxes.  do you really believe a 3% increase in the marginal tax rate is such a game changer than no business could do anything until they knew what would happen with it?  I think it's a bogus argument but now that they have certainty (at least for the next couple of years) what do you think their excuse will be for not creating jobs.

btw - uncertainty is a part of business and a part of life.   Do you know what gas will cost next year or food or anything else for that matter?