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Palin champions will hold up last night's "Sarah Palin's America" episode as proof of the candidate putting her money where her moose is. That is to say, after years of talking about being a hunter, Palin actually went out and shot something.
While much of the debate around the episode is an ethical one about a millionaire shooting a defenseless animal so as not to have to pay for meat, the real conversation should be about how the episode absolutely exposes Palin as a charade.
In this most recent episode, a woman who has blindly championed the NRA and legitimized her frontier-woman status by claiming to be a "lifelong hunter" comes across as anything but.
For starters, Palin and pa head out on a long hunt without bothering to sight in Palin's rifle, a mistake no serious hunter would ever make. Why Palin's dad chose for her a "varmint rifle" for a caribou hunt and why Palin, an admitted "moose hunter," would not question such a gun's appropriateness is never answered.
From there, numerous bungles along the way to finally downing the caribou show a hunting tourist who, at worst, appears to pose a genuine danger to fellow outdoorsmen.
While Palin's hunting-for-TV jamboree certainly impressed the hockey moms, it seriously eroded her base of genuine hunters. One online commentor, on Sean Hannity's website no less, grumbled, "I turned on Sarah Palin's Alaska a minute ago and she just shot four maybe even five times at a caribou and missed. Needless to say I'm not impressed with her ability to handle a firearm let alone aim it and hit something."
On Palin's own Facebook page, a viewer wrote, "What a joke. I was a fan before the show. No one who is a true hunter lets others carry their rifle or can't load their own shells. Sarah, you are a phony in this area of your 'skills."
Several others wondered why Palin, an experienced hunter, didn't bring her own rifle, pointing out that familiarity with one's weapon is a core principle of hunting. Another pointed out, regarding Palin's veteran hunter dad, "I was surprised to see him using the gun as a walking stick."
Several hunter friends to whom I showed the video were less than impressed. All agreed that she did not look like she had handled a gun many times. One, who just posted his November kill on his Facebook profile, said "I would not hunt with her."
In the episode, Palin is handed a second gun, which, thanks to good video editing, she uses to down the animal in one shot.
But knowledgeable hunters would have all recoiled in horror watching Palin immediately place her finger on the trigger of the "hot" Savage 110 as it was handed to her. Keeping one's finger off the trigger until the very moment of the shot is the first lesson any responsible hunter ever learns.
But Palin's inexperience with guns is in no way more obvious than when she is handed the rifle and she asks, "Does it kick?" It was an exchange Brad Schlegel took note of, writing on Palin's Facebook wall, "'does the rifle kick' what kind of a question is that? Doesn't matter if it kicks or not you shoot it the same. That was a girly question momma griz."
It would behoove Palin real American opponents and supporters alike to remember that pretending to enjoy hunting is an American political tradition. Indeed, who can forget John Kerry, avid fowl hunter? Or this: "My father taught me how to shoot."
From a female hunter.
1. Why can't she load her own gun? My guessing is she has no idea how to do it or doesn't want to break her nails in the process. Her dad doing it for her while standing and whispering really loudly is another problem. I think the first shot might have made the caribou deaf and made it so they could carry on the way they did.
2. Why did she ask if a rifle kicks? Rifles kick. You get bruises. I've hunted seriously for a couple years now and I know that. Hence a "lifelong" hunter should know that and show off the bruises given by such firearms. Also, bringing a vermin gun on a caribou hunt? That is a joke. No wonder it took 6 shots to kill the thing.
3. I have a problem with the shots she took. I'm not all about shooting while the animal is facing you. If you shoot and it runs forward, she could have been trampled (oh no!). Also, that is just a bad shot. Waiting till he's broadside (his entire side facing you) is the best and can kill quickly. This is just a personal thing, however.
4. GET YOUR FINGER OFF OF THE TRIGGER, PALIN. You never want to have your finger on the trigger of ANY gun unless you are about to shoot. I learned that in a New York State hunter safety course along with dozens of 8 year-old kids, so she should probably be aware.
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hahahahahahahahahahahaha where are all the palin pantie sniffers :D :D :D
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looks like someone from getbig got caught in palin's pantie draw :D :D :D :D
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sorry guys - but the writer is 1000% correct here.
can't load her own gun, doesn't even know if it kicks, and keeping the finger on the trigger when handling a gun - all clear signs of a person that doesn't know jack shit about how to handle a weapon.
333386, you know guns better than most here. I think you'd agree with the author. if you were at the gun range and the person next to you couldn't load a gun, didn't knofw if it kicked, and above all - DEMONSTRATED A LACK OF TRIGGER DISCIPLINE - you'd consider them inexperienced at best, and completely moronic at worst.
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I have never been hunting so I cant say.
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I have never been hunting so I cant say.
If you think it's okay for anyone to put their finger on the trigger in ANY circumstance where the gun is not already pointed at the target...
then you've just exposed yourself as a highly dangerous gun owner who doesn't know what the hell he's doing.
Now, I understand you train a lot at the range - and I think we both know that if you were to keep your finger on trigger while chatting it up, you'd probably be escorted out of the range. So i think you're jsut kneepadding here, playing dumb on the first thing they teach you in the gun range ;)
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If you think it's okay for anyone to put their finger on the trigger in ANY circumstance where the gun is not already pointed at the target...
then you've just exposed yourself as a highly dangerous gun owner who doesn't know what the hell he's doing.
Now, I understand you train a lot at the range - and I think we both know that if you were to keep your finger on trigger while chatting it up, you'd probably be escorted out of the range. So i think you're jsut kneepadding here, playing dumb on the first thing they teach you in the gun range ;)
Like Al Gore?
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at this point, you are now conceding she's a gun safety idiot on par with a moron like Gore.
You've shown you agree with the writer of the article.
Cheers, and i do appreciate your honesty. Palin doesn't know how to handle a gun. It's a prop, and she proved that.
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at this point, you are now conceding she's a gun safety idiot on par with a moron like Gore.
You've shown you agree with the writer of the article.
Cheers, and i do appreciate your honesty. Palin doesn't know how to handle a gun. It's a prop, and she proved that.
I was not there, so who knows.
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I was not there, so who knows.
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Sorry. Finger on trigger is unaccepable.
it's the first thing you learn on day 1 in the gun range or hunting.
Admit she committed a highly unsafe act.... or admit you don't know shit about handling guns... it's one of these two ;)
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Hopefully Cheney will invite her to go hunting
it will be a win/win regardless of which one of them gets shot
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33, you are very good at exposing obama's lies.
but why is it so hard for you - an experienced shooter with dozens of guns - to just admit palin screwed up by putting her finger on the trigger?
It's the first thing you learn in every range. you've gotten very good recently at actually pointing out the rare good deeds obama does - and you're going to shatter your credibility by saying you have no clue if it's bad to put finger on trigger?
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33, you are very good at exposing obama's lies.
but why is it so hard for you - an experienced shooter with dozens of guns - to just admit palin screwed up by putting her finger on the trigger?
It's the first thing you learn in every range. you've gotten very good recently at actually pointing out the rare good deeds obama does - and you're going to shatter your credibility by saying you have no clue if it's bad to put finger on trigger?
Of course that is wrong. I'm not defending that.
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Like Al Gore?
I fell out when i saw this picture... wtf is dudes problem.
I dont have a manual safety on my p99 but on my old Bullcrap jiminez 9mm i wouldnt take it off safety until i took aim..
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I fell out when i saw this picture... wtf is dudes problem.
I dont have a manual safety on my p99 but on my old Bullcrap jiminez 9mm i wouldnt take it off safety until i took aim..
Looks like no magazine is in there, but one can always be in the chamber.
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Looks like no magazine is in there, but one can always be in the chamber.
Mag or no.. Fuck thats dumb
Hey 240 you use glocks right?
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Mag or no.. Fuck thats dumb
Hey 240 you use glocks right?
So do I. G26 is my favorite gun of all time.
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yep, love my glocks. but everyone knows you dont touch the trigger.
palin obviously isn't that experienced with guns. we know that now.
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yep, love my glocks. but everyone knows you dont touch the trigger.
palin obviously isn't that experienced with guns. we know that now.
What do you think of the tax deal?
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yep, love my glocks. but everyone knows you dont touch the trigger.
palin obviously isn't that experienced with guns. we know that now.
Yeah i feel you. Glock 19 compares to the P99.. But the safety on a G one nine is a bit different. You are more experienced tho so it works well with you. My jamacian hommie has the glock 40...very nice
Now on this palin situation .. Ol girl is a poser and 333 you should feel like you have been Had... but you dont.. you will make excuses or rationalize it some kind of way.
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Yeah i feel you. Glock 19 compares to the P99.. But the safety on a G one nine is a bit different. You are more experienced tho so it works well with you. My jamacian hommie has the glock 40...very nice
Now on this palin situation .. Ol girl is a poser and 333 you should feel like you have been Had... but you dont.. you will make excuses or rationalize it some kind of way.
Maybe she s just used to semi-autos vs bolt action?
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I don't watch the show nor really care about Palin, but what kind of rifle was she using? You don't have to be a hunter to know you keep your fucking finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire.
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So do I. G26 is my favorite gun of all time.
1911, there is no substitute
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1911, there is no substitute
1911 no doubt - but I can't really carry a full size 1911.
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1911 no doubt - but I can't really carry a full size 1911.
Get your hands on a Springfield light weight operator and you would take it bed with you ;D
(http://www.goquip.org/images/weapon/SA_LW-Champion-Operator.JPG)
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I tried getting the olive drab version but its hard to find.
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I tried getting the olive drab version but its hard to find.
If you have a dependable FFL I can tell where one is right now. Unless of course I buy it first
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If you have a dependable FFL I can tell where one is right now. Unless of course I buy it first
Only gun I want that i don't have is the SA SOCOM 2.
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Only gun I want that i don't have is the SA SOCOM 2.
Held one of those at the gun store, was a bit front heavy
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Held one of those at the gun store, was a bit front heavy
Yeah, but that thing is a true battle rifle for life. You can do almost anything with that. hunting, range, TSFT, long distance, short distance, etc.
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I had a Thompson 1911 years ago.... it was heavy, but what a great shooting handgun.
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Yeah, but that thing is a true battle rifle for life. You can do almost anything with that. hunting, range, TSFT, long distance, short distance, etc.
Oh yeah they are nice, but I liked the scout better
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Palin a fake? You don't say.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAA
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Only gun I want that i don't have is the SA SOCOM 2.
my pop has 2 m1's
one is a scout model that he had the stock tiger striped even before he had it done it was one of the nicest looking guns ive seen, afterwords forget about that thing is gorgeous and a blast to shoot
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Hopefully Cheney will invite her to go hunting
it will be a win/win regardless of which one of them gets shot
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Palin a fake? You don't say.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAA
no true gun enthisiast EVER puts his/her trigger finger on the trigger, until they are ready to shoot. Ever.
She's fraudulent in this manner. it doesn't mean she doesn't love america (alaska), I'm sure she does. But it does mean the whole hunting thing is part of her image that's been cultivated, but isn't necessarily true.
irresponsible gun use on her part - no denying it.
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no true gun enthisiast EVER puts his/her trigger finger on the trigger, until they are ready to shoot. Ever.
She's fraudulent in this manner. it doesn't mean she doesn't love america (alaska), I'm sure she does. But it does mean the whole hunting thing is part of her image that's been cultivated, but isn't necessarily true.
irresponsible gun use on her part - no denying it.