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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: MuscleMcMannus on December 09, 2010, 04:19:01 AM
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Supposedly Jelfa put out a statement saying these are counterfeits? Lots of sources carrying them. Supposedly counterfeiters from Poland making them. I have quite a few amps myself and have buddies that have blown the fuck up using them. So there is something in them. Maybe just test E. Anyone use that batch recently?
flinstones? Scarletknight? I think you guys have?
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they most likely still have test in them
just cause they are counterfeit doesnt mean they arent real.........if that makes any sense
russian mob runs that shit over there., they know the jefla name and want to co opt it........but probably still putting real steroid oin their amps
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I think i have used these. They still must have had test in there b/c I got gains off them in my previous cycle. And it had to be the omnas since i only used omnas at 750mg/week for my last cycle (with some dbol 30mg/day in the beginning). I got blood work done towards the end of my cycle and it also showed my test levels were at 2100 ng/dl, which seems about where they should be.
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I think a clear distinction needs to be made between counterfeit and bunk gear, counterfeits tend to work and have real steroid in them, usually an UGL might use a popular well known brands name to sell their gear, bunk gear is just shit and has no steroid in it
The only problem that i think there is with counterfeit is it could be possible that while a counterfeit amp of schering primobolan has steroid in it that it might be EQ or something other than Primo, but with counterfeit Test you are more than likely to get some form of real test.
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aaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww www!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what the fuck!????!!! I have about 30 of these right now. damnit. They work fine but Im still pissed as fuck about this. Im going to see about getting a refund or at least some free amps. I had 200 of these and paid good money for em too. mother fuckers. MM, where are you getting this info?
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http://www.jelfa.com.pl/en/main/about/events?id=24516
Suspension of trading and use of the OMNADREN 250 medicinal product throughout the country.
2010-11-05
Please be advised that the decision of the Main Pharmaceutical Inspector (14/WS/2010) as of 11th March 2010 the following medicinal product is suspended from trading and use throughout the country: OMNADREN 250, solution for injection, 5 ampoules of 1 ml, batch number: 910071, with the expiration date until October 2012.
Having regard to the health and lives of patients and acting in accordance with applicable legislation, Jelfa S.A. decided to inform the CPI on suspecting the existence of counterfeit ampoules of OMNADREN medicinal product in trading, which resulted in making the abovementioned decision.
At the same time, we declare that the OMNADREN medicinal product, for which Jelfa S.A. is Master Authorisation Holder, meets all the quality requirements set out by the law and GMP standards and is completely safe for patients, who use it in accordance with the SPC.
Both the Management and Employees of Jelfa S.A. express their regret at the fact that counterfeit medicinal products are traded. Not only are such dealings detrimental to the reputation of the entrepreneurs operating legally in the pharmaceutical market, but above all it is a threat to the lives and health of people taking those products.
Jelfa S.A., as an aggrieved party in this case, strongly opposes to such actions and declares cooperation in this regard with all public institutions, both administrative bodies, as well as bodies established for the protection of the law in order to find persons responsible for counterfeiting.
>:( >:( >:(
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ya I used them and thought they were ok they worked ""fine" and I got sides. It smelled just like other amps I have used and guys on other boards ran my same batch and made gains..
damn this pisses me off I felt really good about jelfa and thought fakes were near impossible with the braile.... their dbol is always good though
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Jelfa isn't saying all 910071 is counterfeit. Jelfa did actually prorduce that batch number. But they are suspending omnadren because they discovered the fakes. So there are actually legit 910071's out there. I know because I have a few other batches and the amps are identical. The counterfeit 910071's are taller than the legit omnas and aren't the same. I have batch 910061 or 910016? and they look the same as my 910071's. Everyone I know so far is gaining. But if you got yours from Oscarro or one of the other open sources that sell bulgarian fakes you likely got the counterfeit.
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Jelfa isn't saying all 910071 is counterfeit. Jelfa did actually prorduce that batch number. But they are suspending omnadren because they discovered the fakes. So there are actually legit 910071's out there. I know because I have a few other batches and the amps are identical. The counterfeit 910071's are taller than the legit omnas and aren't the same. I have batch 910061 or 910016? and they look the same as my 910071's. Everyone I know so far is gaining. But if you got yours from Oscarro or one of the other open sources that sell bulgarian fakes you likely got the counterfeit.
you say all of oscaro's HG amps are counterfeit?
and define open source? you mean the sources that advertise openly on source forums
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you say all of oscaro's HG amps are counterfeit?
and define open source? you mean the sources that advertise openly on source forums
Yes I'm pretty sure his 910071's are counterfeit as they are taller and have the thicker brown ring. But they work. Probably test E. And yes open sources...........UncleZ, Euroking, Oscaro, Genxxl, etc. etc.
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Yes I'm pretty sure his 910071's are counterfeit as they are taller and have the thicker brown ring. But they work. Probably test E. And yes open sources...........UncleZ, Euroking, Oscaro, Genxxl, etc. etc.
im sure your correct
but i do have to mention that someone close to me used to purchase nile sust and pakistani sust amps by the trunkload.........and in this case, i know they were not counterfeit............. ..but still , some of the amps would be a little taller then others.........i think iw was just the nature of this shit coming from that region
you can also look at it like..........if your making counterfeits..........yo u would probably go out of you way to make sure all the amps were the same size so people would be fooled into thinking they were legit........cause when your making counterfeits...........a ll you got is the preentation
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Yes I'm pretty sure his 910071's are counterfeit as they are taller and have the thicker brown ring. But they work. Probably test E. And yes open sources...........UncleZ, Euroking, Oscaro, Genxxl, etc. etc.
goddamn it
I hope the one I purshased will be ok I should receive them at the end of this week
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goddamn it
I hope the one I purshased will be ok I should receive them at the end of this week
I'm sure you'll gain off of them. Although I've heard of one person on OLM that didn't gain shit from Oscarro's omnas at all. So who knows. I think HG nowadays is not any safer than UG unfortunately. I'm almost ready to say fuck it and just train naturally till I'm old enough to get HRT. Or find some schmuck who is willing to sell his scripted test. This counterfeit and fake shit is getting old real quick. Omna are fucking $2 in a polish pharmacy wtf the need to counterfeit?
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I'm sure you'll gain off of them. Although I've heard of one person on OLM that didn't gain shit from Oscarro's omnas at all. So who knows. I think HG nowadays is not any safer than UG unfortunately. I'm almost ready to say fuck it and just train naturally till I'm old enough to get HRT. Or find some schmuck who is willing to sell his scripted test. This counterfeit and fake shit is getting old real quick. Omna are fucking $2 in a polish pharmacy wtf the need to counterfeit?
Didn't buy from him but it's also from an open source so who knows.
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its ok stav ill give you mine but i only have like 10 amps lol
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its ok stav ill give you mine but i only have like 10 amps lol
Lol I received them yesterday !
I ordered 100 amps and there were only 67 in the enveloppe !!
I emailed the dude and he said: Sorry I will send you the other 33 after christmas ::)
and the batch number is also 910071 >:(
But I will know if they workgood after 3-4 days. when it's REAL gear, and I just shot 1g of it, I will feel it.
I remember when I shot 3 cc of test norma, damn it felt like 10cc of the underground test I was using, the libido was up big time after only 3 days and I got all puffy.
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The amps work good Stavy, you won't be disappointed.
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The amps work good Stavy, you won't be disappointed.
I'll shoot 8 amps a week and I will try a hgh blast that I read on some UK board by a dude called dutch_scott.
basicly he does it like this
Monday 25iu
Tuesday 25iu
Wednesday 25iu
Thursday 40iu
Friday 40 iu
than he takes the rest of the month off hgh (I will continu at 5iu tho) than the next month he does it again
some good reviews from the people of this board who tried this protocol
doesn't hurt to try
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I'll shoot 8 amps a week and I will try a hgh blast that I read on some UK board by a dude called dutch_scott.
basicly he does it like this
Monday 25iu
Tuesday 25iu
Wednesday 25iu
Thursday 40iu
Friday 40 iu
than he takes the rest of the month off hgh (I will continu at 5iu tho) than the next month he does it again
some good reviews from the people of this board who tried this protocol
doesn't hurt to try
I don't know about that GH protocol man...
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40iu in one day? Thàts a waste of gh
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i think he is talking about insulin not GH
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He's talkin about blasting hgh not slin
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I don't know about that GH protocol man...
I'll be the guinea pig guys
if it works I will let you use this protocol for 1k each 8) ;D
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here is the link for the protocol
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m4145100-p9.aspx (http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m4145100-p9.aspx)
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He's talkin about blasting hgh not slin
ok, but no need to take 40ui a day of GH, it's way to much. Even 25ui is to much,
you better take 10-15ui of gh a day for longer times.
Anyway, maybe this protocol is excellent, so I hope you ll keep us updates.
thank you
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here is the link for the protocol
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m4145100-p9.aspx (http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m4145100-p9.aspx)
So i just checked that out and a lot of people seem to think that this method mimics puberty. I then found a study where they tried different levels of growth hormone in pubertal kids with growth deficiencies. http://content.karger.com/produktedb/produkte.asp?typ=fulltext&file=HRE2003060S01052
To bring the children up to a normal growth rate they used 0.7mg/kg/week. For a 100kg male that's 70mg/week, 10mg/day.
A quick google search leads me to believe that 10IU of GH is 4mg, so you'd need 25iu/day, every day, for years to try and mimmick puberty. Hell, even in lower dosed studies kids were taking the equivalent of 8-15iu's/day. 0.03 or 0.06mg/kg/day.
Fuck, bodybuilding can be expensive haha.
The Dutch_Scott seems to say that Phil Hernon, Big A, Ronnie Coleman, Yates all used similar methods. Anybody have any links to where this is written. Obv not by coleman/yates but maybe Hernon?
edit: here's a post about Phil's dosing.
I know a former NPC USA overall champ, never did anything in the pros, but he is a pro, who uses 18IU on the 1st & 15th of the month.
IT WAS 18IU PER WEEK.
LET ME ADD ONE MORE THING
ON THE DAY YOU TAKE THE 18iu, YOU NEED MORE INSULIN BECAUSE YOUR BLOOD SUGAR WILL BE SKY HIGH. YOU SHOULD TEST IT WITH A DIABETIC STRIP. IT WILL BE HIGH ON AVERAGE FOR ABOUT 3 DAYS, SO KEEP AN EYE ON IT. PREFERRABLY YOU CAN KEEP IT AROUND 90 ON THOSE DAYS, BUT DONT BE SURPRISED IF IT GOES TO 190 AT TIMES. I CANT TELL YOU WHAT DOSE OF INSULIN TO USE, YOU NEED TO CHECK IT OUT.
The theory is that by injecting a massive amount of gh exogenously you will stimulate a huge natural release to follow as sort of a rebound effect. There is some thought that a huge dose will taper off rapidly leaving you in a valley that the body will try to recover from by release more of your natural gh to compensate.
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25iu everyday for years is going to make you look like a distorted mongrul
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Jesus Christ....the people who are using steroids and growth these days ::) ::) ::)
http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/competitive-journals/113394-road-nabba-wales-2011-a-5.html#post2032774
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Jesus Christ....the people who are using steroids and growth these days ::) ::) ::)
http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/competitive-journals/113394-road-nabba-wales-2011-a-5.html#post2032774
damn this guy looks like shit
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oh my god the guy look like nothing and wawoo the red mark on his abs, either he doesn't know how to inject subq other the gh is taking = shit.
But since the non improvement I'll say that his GH is not GH.
As I said you better make the price and so make sure you have legit GH. When I go over internet and I see GH like 1ui for 1.5 dollars I know it's not legit. I've been to france in Lilly's manufacture for my work study and let me tell you that GH cost a lot to make and I don't know how china can make GH so cheap.
Anyway.
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Jesus Christ....the people who are using steroids and growth these days ::) ::) ::)
http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/competitive-journals/113394-road-nabba-wales-2011-a-5.html#post2032774
LOLLLLL wtfff