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Half of Europe's adults overweight or obese: report
By Kate Kelland
LONDON | Tue Dec 7, 2010 7:33am EST
(Reuters) - More than half of adults in European Union are overweight or obese, piling pressure onto their own health, their nations' health systems and the wider economy, the OECD and the EU Commission said on Tuesday.
In a report on health in the 27-member bloc, the Paris-based Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) and the Brussels-based Commission said the rate of obesity has more than doubled over the past 20 years in most member states.
It also found that one in seven EU children is overweight or obese, and said the figures are set to rise even further.
"This has considerable implications for costs of healthcare," it said, citing a recent study on England which forecast that total costs linked to overweight and obesity could increase by as much as 70 percent between 2007 and 2015.
"Children who are obese or overweight are more likely to suffer from poor health later in life, with a greater risk of developing heart disease, diabetes, some forms of cancer, arthritis, asthma, a reduced quality of life and even premature death," the "Health at a Glance: Europe 2010" report said.
Overweight people have a body mass index (BMI) of between 25 and 30 and obese people have a BMI of 30 or more, according to the World Health Organization. BMI is calculated by dividing weight in kilograms by height in meters squared.
Over half the EU adult population, or 50.1 percent is now overweight or obese.
Looking at health spending, the report found that this had risen in all EU member states in the past decade, often increasing at a faster rate than economic growth. In 2008, EU states spent on average 8.3 percent of their gross domestic product (GDP) on health, up from 7.3 percent in 1998.
LIFE EXPECTANCY
Meanwhile, better living conditions and medical progress have allowed life expectancy at birth in the EU to increase by 6 years between 1980 to 2007, from an average of 72 years in 1980 to 78 years in 2007.
"Improvements in living and working conditions and in some health-related behaviors have contributed greatly to these longevity gains, but progress in medical care also deserves much credit," the report said.
The report described a wide range of obesity rates across the EU, from less than 10 percent in Romania and Italy to more than 20 percent in the UK, Ireland and Malta. On average, just over 15 percent of the EU adult population is obese.
Commenting on the report, Europe's Commissioner for health and consumer policy John Dalli said it would serve as a useful tool for governments to see where the major problems are.
"In order to reverse the growing trend in obesity and other health problems in the EU we need reliable and up-to-date data to underpin the action we take," he said in a statement.
The report found that several factors -- including lower rates of smoking and less heavy drinking in some countries -- had led to a decline in deaths from heart disease, it is still the biggest cause of death in the EU, accounting for 40 percent of all deaths in Europe in 2008.
The second leading cause of death in the EU is cancer, which accounted for 26 percent of deaths in 2008. The highest number of cancer deaths was reported in Denmark, followed by Hungary, Poland, the Czech and Slovak Republics and Slovenia. The lowest numbers of cancer deaths were in Cyprus, Finland and Sweden.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6B62B020101207
(http://demotivationalblog.com/demotivational/2009/03/europe-were-all-beautiful-thin-and-intelligent.jpg)
What will the Eurotrash do without the ability to call Americans the fat country anymore?
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It is rare to see a 400lb person in the UK. I reckon I have seen 2 in my life and one was Glenn Ross.
In America I am sure 1 in every 200 people are this size.
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Lets not forget the massive amounts of "chemtrail therapy" that has been going on there for decades
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Why do people continue to compare an entire continent to the US? We're not one country, don't speak the same language, have different cultures, some would love to go to war with a neighboring country, some countries are rich, others are piss poor.
BUT even if you take Europe as a whole, you will see that one average people over here are definitely less fat than in the States. It is what it is.
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Ha ha, kansloze rukker. :D
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Why do people continue to compare an entire continent to the US? We're not one country, don't speak the same language, have different cultures, some would love to go to war with a neighboring country, some countries are rich, others are piss poor.
BUT even if you take Europe as a whole, you will see that one average people over here are definitely less fat than in the States. It is what it is.
With the amount of calories it took to write that up you can have an extra 3 kabobs for lunch now.
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It is rare to see a 400lb person in the UK. I reckon I have seen 2 in my life and one was Glenn Ross.
In America I am sure 1 in every 200 people are this size.
I find you funny... you've never been to America, but you "reckon" this and that.
news flash, Euros are just as fat as americans these days.
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North Americans especially the women are fatsos. FACT.
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It is rare to see a 400lb person in the UK. I reckon I have seen 2 in my life and one was Glenn Ross.
In America I am sure 1 in every 200 people are this size.
Last time I was over, it seemed like everyone in England was about 250 and doughy. I think I saw, maybe 2 people, who looked 'fit,' - no one was Getbig ripped. In the US, there are many more people who look 'fit' but also way more people who are obese, and visit any Wal-Mart and you'll see scooter-fat people.
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I find you funny... you've never been to America, but you "reckon" this and that.
news flash, Euros are just as fat as americans these days.
Oh really? ???
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Overweight and obese are 2 different things.
You can be 5-10 lbs over your BMI and considered overweight.
Go to ANY buffet or cheap restaurant and you will 100% see people over 350lbs...OBESE
Ask any people outside of USA and they will tell you the amount of fat fucks in this country is insane.
There are fat people everywhere but not on the same level as here.
Still USA rules!
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Still USA rules!
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Terrorist post reported.
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Having lived in both, the USA has so many more MORBIDLY obese, you simply dont see those people in the uk, like Goudy said its rare to see someone over 300 pounds in the UK, in the USA you only have to walk through a local walmart to rack up a high tally.UK is full of guys with beer bellys though.
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Oh really? ???
I've been to London, Calabria, Rome, Milan and to France multiple times. I love to travel and I love me some Europe.
Every single time I am in London, I see shitloads of fat doughy hags roaming about.
You euros really need to get over yourselves.
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The UK is worse than rest of Europe.
I'll give you that.
In my experience, southern Italy is home to some of the worlds most attractive humans.
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In my experience, southern Italy is home to some of the worlds most attractive humans.
Ask an Italian from the North what he thinks about that statement. ;D
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Ask an Italian from the North what he thinks about that statement. ;D
I don't understand this as they all vacation down south. I know it's the "poor" region of the country, but when I was in Calabria, the women were unreal and many of the resorts were exceptionally beautiful. Maybe I lucked out, ha-ha.
I wanted to experience Italy in it's most raw form.
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raw porn
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Overweight and obese are 2 different things.
You can be 5-10 lbs over your BMI and considered overweight.
Go to ANY buffet or cheap restaurant and you will 100% see people over 350lbs...OBESE
Morbidly obese even.
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Lets not forget the massive amounts of "chemtrail therapy" that has been going on there for decades
and the forced fluoridation and psychotropic medication through the municipal water system
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Overweight people have a body mass index (BMI) of between 25 and 30 and obese people have a BMI of 30 or more, according to the World Health Organization. BMI is calculated by dividing weight in kilograms by height in meters squared.
And these limits are the same for women and men. A healthy young man can easily be 25 BMI "by accident", but woman can't. I don't know if the health officials are just dumb as bricks or is this just a conspiracy against men, trying to make them feel guilty of their inherit biology.
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women are weak and should best kept inside the house for cleaning and cooking
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Last time I was over, it seemed like everyone in England was about 250 and doughy. I think I saw, maybe 2 people, who looked 'fit,' - no one was Getbig ripped. In the US, there are many more people who look 'fit' but also way more people who are obese, and visit any Wal-Mart and you'll see scooter-fat people.
HAHAHHAH this will now be my new adjective in describing overweight ppl now ;D
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I'll give you that.
In my experience, southern Italy is home to some of the worlds most attractive humans.
in general italian women are considered ugly.. so you must be speaking about the dudes
wow .. brutal coming out
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in general italian women are considered ugly.. so you must be speaking about the dudes
wow .. brutal coming out
(http://www.sedaka.be/ebay_tiny/italian-stallion-back.jpg)
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in general italian women are considered ugly.. so you must be speaking about the dudes
wow .. brutal coming out
Who considers Italian women ugly? I've heard that said about Greeks, but not Italians.
Italy is filled with hot women, imo.
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Having lived in both....as a percentage the US is higher, but you see plenty of fatties in europe too. And on the plus side, Americans (on avg) smell a whole lot better.....sorry euro bros...... 8)
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Who considers Italian women ugly? I've heard that said about Greeks, but not Italians.
Italy is filled with hot women, imo.
I have to go with body88 here.
My young Sev, my old eyes saw so many italian women......... ;D
and I have to say you're wrong.
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Yes. Our plan is working prefectly.
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Ask an Italian from the North what he thinks about that statement. ;D
Here I am Doc: I'm from the North and I assure you the sensual beauty of women from the South is all for real.
What we do not like is the poor work ethic of some people from the South.
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Why do people continue to compare an entire continent to the US? We're not one country, don't speak the same language, have different cultures, some would love to go to war with a neighboring country, some countries are rich, others are piss poor.
BUT even if you take Europe as a whole, you will see that one average people over here are definitely less fat than in the States. It is what it is.
do you live longer? Honest question
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Australia > Italy when it comes to hot women. Byron Bay is a bountiful brim of beautiful babes, hell even Sydney has a lot of hotties.
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Australia > Italy when it comes to hot women. Byron Bay is a bountiful brim of beautiful babes, hell even Sydney has a lot of hotties.
When I went to the Oktoberfest in Munich, there were quite a few Aussie women there on "holiday." The were smokin' hot and very cool.....best overall chicks there.
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isn't most of Australia filled with Italians (and Greeks) anyway ?
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isn't most of Australia filled with Italians (and Greeks) anyway ?
Not the ones I met.....most were light-skinned.....usually had lighter hair....that accent was awesome......and yes I laid on the southern one for them too.....the loved it..... ;D
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I have to go with body88 here.
My young Sev, my old eyes saw so many italian women......... ;D
and I have to say you're wrong.
I think anytime a person talks about the hotness of a certain country, then they should insert the amount of money they make. I believe body88 makes a large living in the States. In the 2-5% catagory. So he is going to hang with people with take care of themselves and have access to plastic surgery. There isn't daily visits to McDonalds and Walmart for him. So his take on what country is the hottest just may be that of someone who doesn't really get out into the real world.
No offense. Just my opinion
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FAIL
there are no colored people in Vienna
it was funnier in my head
You do know Vienna is in Austria vice Australia right?
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You do know Vienna is in Austria vice Australia right?
I know which is why i deleted that post
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I find you funny... you've never been to America, but you "reckon" this and that.
news flash, Euros are just as fat as americans these days.
I am basing this on pictures from news reports, documentaries etc
Also I was in Rome and I can't recall seeing any fat people. I am sure there were but none to make me thing "what a fat kunt"
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Not to mention the fact dat Italian females gots da best asses of all woman-kind ;D
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in the time ive spent in europe (not UK) seeing a fatty was a RARE thing...in fact it was the opposite. every body was thin and especially it looked like NO ONE lifted there or cared about having muscles.
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in the time ive spent in europe (not UK) seeing a fatty was a RARE thing...in fact it was the opposite. every body was thin and especially it looked like NO ONE lifted there or cared about having muscles.
twinks
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twinks
by our standards, yeah mostly :D
its always funny when you get back to the houston airport and look around, all the people seem huge haha
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Not to mention the fact dat Italian females gots da best asses of all woman-kind ;D
so true, my young friend
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Try visiting japan, I saw 10 overweight people there in a week
Very few handicapped either
Ireland has more handicapped in the population than any other country
Most people here over 25 are overweight, not many over 300lbs though
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Australia > Italy when it comes to hot women. Byron Bay is a bountiful brim of beautiful babes, hell even Sydney has a lot of hotties.
Monica Belluci and the Ageless One beat out any and all Aussy chicks...there is a reason why designs coming from Italy are curvy and sensual, and there is a reason why The Land Down Under is known for Kangaroos, Koalas, and bad quality beer...
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Monica Belluci and the Ageless One beat out any and all Aussy chicks...there is a reason why designs coming from Italy are curvy and sensual, and there is a reason why The Land Down Under is known for Kangaroos, Koalas, and bad quality beer...
Don't be too hard with the Aussies Parker, they still have the beautiful Nicole Kidman.
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in general italian women are considered ugly.. so you must be speaking about the dudes
wow .. brutal coming out
GTFO !!!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfez0b_silvina-escudero-stripdance-25-10-2010_music
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It is rare to see a 400lb person in the UK. I reckon I have seen 2 in my life and one was Glenn Ross.
In America I am sure 1 in every 200 people are this size.
I live in the fattest part of the US I think.
I'm trying to think of 400 lb people I've seen, cause I would have laughed my ass off...
I can't think of many...
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Last time I was over, it seemed like everyone in England was about 250 and doughy. I think I saw, maybe 2 people, who looked 'fit,' - no one was Getbig ripped. In the US, there are many more people who look 'fit' but also way more people who are obese, and visit any Wal-Mart and you'll see scooter-fat people.
hahaha yeah, not one person I saw at walmart was under 225, not one...
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Don't be too hard with the Aussies Parker, they still have the beautiful, cold, and very sickly pale Nicole Kidman.
Fixed ;D
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Whenever I watch the travel channel, and they have a show about cruises they show clips of these big fat Americans on some beach in a country where everyone in skinny.
It's so fucking sad/embarrassing. Watch some skinny Asian, Hispanic, or Black looking kid teaching a gigantic family how to surf so he can earn money for dinner, while they prepare for their next endless buffet back on the ship.
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Whenever I watch the travel channel, and they have a show about cruises they show clips of these big fat Americans on some beach in a country where everyone in skinny.
It's so fucking sad/embarrassing. Watch some skinny Asian, Hispanic, or Black looking kid teaching a gigantic family how to surf so he can earn money for dinner, while they prepare for their next endless buffet back on the ship.
Americans and their lack of discipline, it sickens me.
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Whenever I watch the travel channel, and they have a show about cruises they show clips of these big fat Americans on some beach in a country where everyone in skinny.
It's so fucking sad/embarrassing. Watch some skinny Asian, Hispanic, or Black looking kid teaching a gigantic family how to surf so he can earn money for dinner, while they prepare for their next endless buffet back on the ship.
I went to Bali once. Shit poor except for tourist money. The locals wore a sort of begging dog mask over a 'like to leave you walletless and bleeding in a ditch given the chance' face. Idk how people go on holidays like that. It was disgusting.
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Yeah... WTF
This fat ugly acquaintance of mine went on a cruise, and I saw the pictures on facebook. She wore Adidas shorts over her one piece bathing suit... Standing around in Mexico with her fat friends.
:-X
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There is no question that Americans are the biggest ... to even attempt to make that argument is just pathetic..
I have been around the world ... XXXL size of clothes can be easily found in the states than in Europe ... :-X
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Try visiting japan, I saw 10 overweight people there in a week
Very few handicapped either
Ireland has more handicapped in the population than any other country
Most people here over 25 are overweight, not many over 300lbs though
Serious question, how can you tell if an Irish person is mentally handicapped or not? I think there has been a lot of inbreeding over the years especially within the Catholic and Gypsie communities.
And how can you tell if an oriental has Downs or not? He could just be an overweight oriental.
And do you get Negro Downs sufferers? Seriously. I have only ever seen white ones. Mainly in Ireland when I lived in the Portloise area.
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I visit the USA every year. I take a villa in the Florida area just like thousands of other Scots families. Always head to Walmart to fill the fridge up. Walmarts are definately the worst. Thing is, 90% of them are Blacks. I don't think I have seen an in shape black woman over the age of 18 ever. They are all fat load monsters who do nothing but waddle around and talk loudly on their cellphones.
The only American girls I've seen in shape work at Hooters.
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I visit the USA every year. I take a villa in the Florida area just like thousands of other Scots families. Always head to Walmart to fill the fridge up. Walmarts are definately the worst. Thing is, 90% of them are Blacks. I don't think I have seen an in shape black woman over the age of 18 ever. They are all fat load monsters who do nothing but waddle around and talk loudly on their cellphones.
The only American girls I've seen in shape work at Hooters.
You familiar with Hunterston in Ayrshire? ???
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I visit the USA every year. I take a villa in the Florida area just like thousands of other Scots families. Always head to Walmart to fill the fridge up. Walmarts are definately the worst. Thing is, 90% of them are Blacks. I don't think I have seen an in shape black woman over the age of 18 ever. They are all fat load monsters who do nothing but waddle around and talk loudly on their cellphones.
The only American girls I've seen in shape work at Hooters.
It's rather ridiculous to define America by one local Walmart and the Hooters you patronize for two weeks a year in Florida, no? ::)
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Low income black American women 18+ might be the most overweight demographic tho. He's right, they're all fat from what I've seen.
Between them and low income white men 30+. The stretch belly stained white tshirt crew.
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Low income black American women 18+ might be the most overweight demographic tho. He's right, they're all fat from what I've seen.
Between them and low income white men 30+. The stretch belly stained white tshirt crew.
Hard working men like the one in your avatar are just to rare today...
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It's rather ridiculous to define America by one local Walmart and the Hooters you patronize for two weeks a year in Florida, no? ::)
Hey, we go to the one at the west end of 192 AND the one at the other end of the 192 towards Gaterville !!!!
Both are as bad when it comes to chubby built patrons.
I must admit, there were a few people in California when I was based in the San Diego area who were not too obese. New York too.
Actually , there were a few girls working at Universal Studios this year who were in great shape (white under 23 year olds).
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Serious question, how can you tell if an Irish person is mentally handicapped or not? I think there has been a lot of inbreeding over the years especially within the Catholic and Gypsie communities.
And how can you tell if an oriental has Downs or not? He could just be an overweight oriental.
And do you get Negro Downs sufferers? Seriously. I have only ever seen white ones. Mainly in Ireland when I lived in the Portloise area.
Most Irish have some degree of mental illness and learning difficulty, I mean fuck if someone like me can be successful in business in this country its not sayin much for the others
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Most Irish have some degree of mental illness and learning difficulty, I mean fuck if someone like me can be successful in business in this country its not sayin much for the others
That's funny, didn't someone say you guys are White Africans?
That makes your friend des one big nigger.... ;D
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You familiar with Hunterston in Ayrshire? ???
Thats where our Nuclear power station is. Not a lot of people in that area but wouldn't be surprised if these were a few mutants due to the radiation. I spend a fair bit of time in Largs which is just above Hunterston. There is a great big ice cream restaurant called Nardinis in Largs. It's been there for 90 years. There is always an unusually large amount of Downs sufferers visiting Nardinis. Wonder if the Nuclear plant is to blame ??? ???
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Byron Bay is a bountiful brim of beautiful babes
Nice use of alliteration. You don't see that often these days.
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Most Irish have some degree of mental illness and learning difficulty, I mean fuck if someone like me can be successful in business in this country its not sayin much for the others
Aye, there seemed to be one person in every hundered who was on the ball and the other 99 were simple. I lived there in the late 90's (Portloise) and there didn't seem to be any rules or police control (pubs open all night etc). Things were really booming for a while but it looks like the bubble has well and truely burst in Ireland. I was reading yesterday that the Irish National Bank which is getting bailed out with Billions of funding from Europe and the UK to stop it crashing is awarding it's staff and directors bonuses of $50 million for last year's performance ???.
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It seems like an epidemic.....fat people are everywhere! >:(
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Hey Big Al, I hear what you're saying about obese black females in da U S of A, and for the most point your are right. But... Manhattan has quite a few black females who are OUTSTANDING! I'm talking a tiny slim waist over a very round, shapely and firm bubble butt ;) MMMMMM... DELICIOUS
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It seems like an epidemic.....fat people are everywhere! >:(
It used to be that people had to work really hard (physically) to get a little bit of food. Nowadays people sit on their ass all day and make enough money to feed a small village in Africa.
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lol @ bezerk trying to "get even"
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lol @ bezerk trying to "get even"
And again, he fails. ::)
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And again, he fails. ::)
ofc..
Brittish people are fat though, but besides that lol
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So the report is inaccurate?
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Fattest guy in the old office was a Brit. He was pushing 400lbs at around 5'11" - 6'0". Dude had bad BO, and tossed his trash on the floor. Pissed off the cleaning staff to no end. He was known around the office as 'The Fat, Lazy Pig'. One day he came out of the bathroom and still had shit on the back of his pants. The girls in the office had a field day with that one.
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So the report is inaccurate?
"overweight or obese"
thats a Big fucking difference lol. worthless report
obesity 32% in america and 15% in europe.. end of story? and 50% obesity among black women..
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/14/health/14obese.html
from a personal perspective I cant remember the last time ive seen someone Obese..
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White women in the United States were significantly more likely than those in Canada to be obese: 30.3% versus 24.8% However, the percentages of White American and Canadian men who were obese did not differ.
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/82-620-m/2005001/article/adults-adultes/8060-eng.htm
Guess you guys like your fat chicks eh?
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(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2129/2247797523_222ae4a1b8.jpg?v=0)
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It seems like an epidemic.....fat people are everywhere! >:(
Most of the globe has caught the American fat virus spread by the Hierarchy's of the World
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"overweight or obese"
thats a Big fucking difference lol. worthless report
obesity 32% in america and 15% in europe.. end of story? and 50% obesity among black women..
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/14/health/14obese.html
from a personal perspective I cant remember the last time ive seen someone Obese..
They always use the same language when reporting here.....lump overweight and obese together and using the BMR as a guide, which is garbage. Just because of bodyweight, almost every IFBB pro would be put into the "obese " category......LOL
And to be honest, I can't remember the last time I saw someone as short as you...... ;D
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Congenital disorders are high in the Gypsie communities.
In Ireland though traditionally there has been high 'anti-abortion' sentiment. I think to a degree this would contribute to why there may be more people with Down's syndrome in Ireland. I am only 24 but people with mental and physical handicaps have never been hidden away in my lifetime. Rightly so.
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I don't understand this as they all vacation down south. I know it's the "poor" region of the country, but when I was in Calabria, the women were unreal and many of the resorts were exceptionally beautiful. Maybe I lucked out, ha-ha.
I wanted to experience Italy in it's most raw form.
thanks bro i know where im heading soon
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Fattest guy in the old office was a Brit. He was pushing 400lbs at around 5'11" - 6'0". Dude had bad BO, and tossed his trash on the floor. Pissed off the cleaning staff to no end. He was known around the office as 'The Fat, Lazy Pig'. One day he came out of the bathroom and still had shit on the back of his pants. The girls in the office had a field day with that one.
That must be what they mean by European sophistication and whatnot.
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When we speak of 'Europe' we mean mainland Europe. People in Britain and Ireland do not consider themselves 'European' in the sense of the word that the French and Italians do.
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What's wrong with being skinny?
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When we speak of 'Europe' we mean mainland Europe. People in Britain and Ireland do not consider themselves 'European' in the sense of the word that the French and Italians do.
Yes! The UK is not good enough to be considered European, stick to your island and inbreeding :D
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I lived in the UK and now the US and people are so much fatter here it's crazy, you can go to Walmart on any given day and see 5+ people pushing 400lbs +
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Yes! The UK is not good enough to be considered European, stick to your island and inbreeding :D
It seems like every picture Ive seen of women in the UK is fucking horrifying.
I have seen maybe 2-3 UK women I consider hot.
Epic fail.
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And those hot "UK women" probably aren't even british and most like polish, as lots of poles fled to the UK after poland entered the EU.
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Remember when I went to london for like 3 days, and went to the ufc,
could count on one hand the number of hot females I saw,
and 10+ on the plane home to sweden (swedish girls)
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It's the food. Part of the original package that the EU needed the U.S to sign off on to form was that Europe would open its food imports more to American companies. This meant that the poison they've been selling to American's since the late 70s could now be sold to the Europeans. The results are the same except that Europe is about a decade behind in obesity gains.
It
the
Food!
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Remember when I went to london for like 3 days, and went to the ufc,
could count on one hand the number of hot females I saw,
and 10+ on the plane home to sweden (swedish girls)
sieg heil :'(
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It's the food. Part of the original package that the EU needed the U.S to sign off on to form was that Europe would open its food imports more to American companies. This meant that the poison they've been selling to American's since the late 70s could now be sold to the Europeans. The results are the same except that Europe is about a decade behind in obesity gains.
It
the
Food!
Very true! because ppl are getting fat in Europe too. It's just that the US has had a big head start.
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GTFO !!!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfez0b_silvina-escudero-stripdance-25-10-2010_music
HOLY FUCK... :o ;D
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It's kind of a broad generalization to say "Europeans" are something or other.
Each country in Europe is extremely different.
It's kinda of like when people lump "Asians" all together, or "Africans".
Hello dipshit. There are different countries in these places. And they are all very different.
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In that Sweden vs UK video they clearly picked hot swedish girls and purporsely picked rough looking Brits.
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You don't need to be skinny to shoot someone with a rifle and scope from a half a mile away.
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Americans: their lack of discipline sickens me! >:(
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Yes! The UK is not good enough to be considered European, stick to your island and inbreeding :D
QFT !!!!
and that`s a fact !!!