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Title: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: Cohibia on December 13, 2010, 12:53:03 PM
Afghan President Hamid Karzai says would side with the Taliban if he had to do it all over again.

AP Monday, December 13th, 2010
In late October, Gen. David H. Petraeus, US Ambassador Karl Eikenberry and other top officials were trying to convince Karzai to back down on an order banning all foreign private security contractors from Afghanistan. The Afghan president decided he had heard enough, according to a new report in The Washington Post.

"If I had to choose sides today, I'd choose the Taliban," Karzai seethed.

The "main enemies" of Afghanistan are the Taliban, the United States and the international community, according to Karzai.

In August, Karzai had surprised the US Embassy in Kabul by announcing that he was banning foreign security contractors.


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Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2010, 12:57:46 PM
Everything Bama has touched has turned to absolute shit. 
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: 240 is Back on December 13, 2010, 12:59:26 PM
Everything Bama has touched has turned to absolute shit. 

yep.  Until Januaur 2009, Karzai was a great guy with no drug and terror affiliations.

Everything changed last year.
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: 240 is Back on December 13, 2010, 01:01:59 PM
33,

instead of just agreeing with world sentiment that karzai is a crooked bum in bed with bad guys - you let your disdain for obama drive you to anger where it's not even that appropriate. 

Bush installed this 'leader'.  Obama's state dept has criticized the hell out of Karzai. And Obama ramped up airstrikes in the country.

If you're hating on obama - in this thread - then it may mean you're on karzai's side, and pissed off that Obama has increased airstrikes and criticized the crooked ass way afghanistan is doing things.  Is this the case?
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2010, 01:04:04 PM
33,

instead of just agreeing with world sentiment that karzai is a crooked bum in bed with bad guys - you let your disdain for obama drive you to anger where it's not even that appropriate. 

Bush installed this 'leader'.  Obama's state dept has criticized the hell out of Karzai. And Obama ramped up airstrikes in the country.

If you're hating on obama - in this thread - then it may mean you're on karzai's side, and pissed off that Obama has increased airstrikes and criticized the crooked ass way afghanistan is doing things.  Is this the case?

Say what you want about Bush - but he kept Afghanistan under control with very limited loss of life on our end compared to Iraq.   Of course Karzais is corrupt, but please 240 - everywhere on the planet, our firegin policy has comletely collapse in the last two years.   
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: kcballer on December 13, 2010, 01:04:47 PM
240 333 would side with ANYONE over obama.  Even a terrorist in Afghanistan.  He honestly hates America more than he says Obama does.
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: Option D on December 13, 2010, 01:07:02 PM
Say what you want about Bush - but he kept Afghanistan under control with very limited loss of life on our end compared to Iraq.   Of course Karzais is corrupt, but please 240 - everywhere on the planet, our firegin policy has comletely collapse in the last two years.   

Amazing..
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: Cohibia on December 13, 2010, 01:08:28 PM
Say what you want about Bush - but he kept Afghanistan under control with very limited loss of life on our end compared to Iraq.   Of course Karzais is corrupt, but please 240 - everywhere on the planet, our firegin policy has comletely collapse in the last two years.   

 ::)
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2010, 01:08:43 PM
240 333 would side with ANYONE over obama.  Even a terrorist in Afghanistan.  He honestly hates America more than he says Obama does.


 ::)  ::)

No, I am saying that Bush seemed to have Afghanistan under control formost of his term and if you look at the death count of our soldiers, it has greatly increased in thelast two years and things seem to have completely collapsed.  That is a fact.  


And yes, I do detest Obama.  
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: kcballer on December 13, 2010, 01:08:48 PM
Amazing..

Talk about revisionist history right there.

Has anyone else noticed 333 going from a decent poster to more of a spammer/troll who consistently sides against anything Obama even if he fundamentally agrees with it?  He'll go against his own country and beliefs just to make a negative statement about Obama.  
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: 24KT on December 13, 2010, 01:11:04 PM
Say what you want about Bush - but he kept Afghanistan under control with very limited loss of life on our end compared to Iraq.   Of course Karzais is corrupt, but please 240 - everywhere on the planet, our firegin policy has comletely collapse in the last two years.   

Just because Bush kept the focus on Iraq, doesn't mean he had Afghanistan under control.
You guys were always getting your asses kicked over there to the point where Republican congressmen were calling for a coalition gov which included the Taliban.
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: blacken700 on December 13, 2010, 01:12:30 PM
Everything Bama has touched has turned to absolute shit. 

man you better check in to the nut house,really i think your going off the deep end

Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: 240 is Back on December 13, 2010, 01:17:30 PM
Say what you want about Bush - but he kept Afghanistan under control with very limited loss of life on our end compared to Iraq.

yes.  He managed to spend a trillion bucks NOT winning a war for 8 years.

Obama's solution - a surge - did result in greater loss of lie, just as the iraqi surge did. 
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: Dos Equis on December 13, 2010, 02:39:40 PM

You guys were always getting your asses kicked over there

lol
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: OzmO on December 13, 2010, 02:44:15 PM
I think it boils down to jealousy.  What else can come from the State of Canada?
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: Dos Equis on December 13, 2010, 02:47:26 PM
I think it boils down to jealousy.  What else can come from the State of Canada?

Canada has given us some good stuff.  Michael Buble.  Lots of decent immigrants (who couldn't wait to leave Canada for the U.S.).  Steve Nash.  Jim Carrey . . . .
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2010, 02:49:48 PM
Canada has given us some good stuff.  Michael Buble.  Lots of decent immigrants (who couldn't wait to leave Canada for the U.S.).  Steve Nash.  Jim Carrey . . . .

Canada= bad ass snipers. 
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: Dos Equis on December 13, 2010, 02:53:17 PM
Canada= bad ass snipers. 

Yep.
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: tu_holmes on December 13, 2010, 03:04:26 PM
Can't believe 3333 actually said that shit.

Come on dude... Your hatred of Obama blinds you.

As far as I'm concerned... If Karzai said that, then he's made his choice... The Taliban is all his.

Bring our boys home!

This is a great reason.
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2010, 03:11:41 PM
yes.  He managed to spend a trillion bucks NOT winning a war for 8 years.

Obama's solution - a surge - did result in greater loss of lie, just as the iraqi surge did. 


At this point i think we should just come home and let all these idiots kill each other. 
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2010, 03:13:53 PM
Can't believe 3333 actually said that shit.

Come on dude... Your hatred of Obama blinds you.

As far as I'm concerned... If Karzai said that, then he's made his choice... The Taliban is all his.

Bring our boys home!

This is a great reason.

I agree - time to come home.

Either we fight to win or come home.  I see no reason one more american needs to die for this fiasco we obviously have no intention of winning.  . 
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: 240 is Back on December 13, 2010, 03:45:44 PM
I agree - time to come home.

Either we fight to win or come home.  I see no reason one more american needs to die for this fiasco we obviously have no intention of winning.  . 

This "no intention of winning"

Was that the case with just obama, or was bush's approach pretty much the same?
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2010, 03:48:01 PM
Both. 
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: 240 is Back on December 13, 2010, 03:51:27 PM
Both. 

props for the honesty man.

war's about resources and keeping people emplyed and shareholders rich.

a lot of ppl lose $ when war ends.
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2010, 03:56:13 PM
9 years is long enough. We won WW2 in four years for fucks sake!  What are we doing over there? 
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: OzmO on December 13, 2010, 04:00:56 PM
9 years is long enough. We won WW2 in four years for fucks sake!  What are we doing over there? 

Dah!

We are fighting terrorism over there so we don't have to fight it over here.   Geez get a clue.   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2010, 04:03:51 PM
We are fighting people who never read a book. Seen a tv, read a newspaper and have almost zero chance of doing anything to us.  I agree with special forces doing their thing, but to keep mass levels of troops there seems a little bizarre to me considering we still have privates like manning doing more harm than those nomads.
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: Emmortal on December 13, 2010, 04:19:31 PM
Dah!

We are fighting terrorism over there so we don't have to fight it over here.   Geez get a clue.   ;D ;D

Yeap, gotta watch out for that 90% of Afghan men who've never heard of or have no idea what 9/11 was.
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: 240 is Back on December 13, 2010, 04:29:13 PM
9 years is long enough. We won WW2 in four years for fucks sake!  What are we doing over there? 

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: Kazan on December 13, 2010, 05:45:49 PM
Karzai is a piece of shit and always has been, hell his brother is one of the biggest opium trafficers in Afghanistan. He got run out by the Taliban in the first place, and wouldn't even be there if not for the invasion. He see's the writing on the wall, the US isn't going to stay there forever and he is biding his time(and padding his bank account) so he can get the fuck out when the US leaves.
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: Cy Tolliver on December 13, 2010, 10:14:36 PM
Afghan President Hamid Karzai says would side with the Taliban if he had to do it all over again.

AP Monday, December 13th, 2010
In late October, Gen. David H. Petraeus, US Ambassador Karl Eikenberry and other top officials were trying to convince Karzai to back down on an order banning all foreign private security contractors from Afghanistan. The Afghan president decided he had heard enough, according to a new report in The Washington Post.

"If I had to choose sides today, I'd choose the Taliban," Karzai seethed.

The "main enemies" of Afghanistan are the Taliban, the United States and the international community, according to Karzai.

In August, Karzai had surprised the US Embassy in Kabul by announcing that he was banning foreign security contractors.


 :o


Ungrateful mother fucker...
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: 24KT on December 13, 2010, 11:54:52 PM
We are fighting people who never read a book. Seen a tv, read a newspaper and have almost zero chance of doing anything to us.  I agree with special forces doing their thing, but to keep mass levels of troops there seems a little bizarre to me considering we still have privates like manning doing more harm than those nomads.

You obviously haven't taken into consideration the massive motherlode of rare earth metals in Afghanistan.
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: Option D on December 14, 2010, 07:09:38 AM
You obviously haven't taken into consideration the massive motherlode of rare earth metals in Afghanistan.

If his point isnt directly linked to an "our side vs your side"...no other factors will be mentioned in a post
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: the_steevo_uk on December 14, 2010, 07:18:14 AM
9 years is long enough. We won WW2 in four years for fucks sake!  What are we doing over there? 

Im not sure anyone actually knows anymore...I've read a lot of books on the subject and im still not exactly sure...the last line the UK government span was that it was to stop terrorists from blowing us up in our own countries.

Time to leave, let the Afghans decide for themselves what they want. If it's the Taliban again then so be it, they wont be stupid enough this time to harbour folks like Bin Laden again...not that they liked him in the first place. If the Afghans want 14th century law let them have it, no need for our boys to die to deny them that right.
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: Kazan on December 14, 2010, 07:24:22 AM
You obviously haven't taken into consideration the massive motherlode of rare earth metals in Afghanistan.

Sure, but what company is going to put the investment into pulling them out of the ground? The place is completely tribal, and they will flip on you if the other guy pays more.
Title: Re: Karzai says he’d ‘choose the Taliban’ over US
Post by: whork25 on December 14, 2010, 07:33:35 AM
We are fighting people who never read a book. Seen a tv, read a newspaper and have almost zero chance of doing anything to us.  I agree with special forces doing their thing, but to keep mass levels of troops there seems a little bizarre to me considering we still have privates like manning doing more harm than those nomads.

Great post keep em coming much more intelligent than when you hate on Obama, shout liberal at everyone etc...