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BREAKING NEWS FROM PHIL HEATH: "Hello all! After long thought and consulting with family and friends, I have decided NOT to compete at the '11 Arnold Classic. This was a very difficult decision to make as I had a great '10 season. I want to thank my beautiful wife Jennie for her on-going support along with my sponsors Team MuscleTech and Weider/AMI.
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Fuck him.
Nothing interesting or cool about him.
Buh bye.....
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Fuck him. Nothing interesting or cool about him. Buh bye.....
Yeah, the #2 ranked in the world saying he is not going to compete at the 2011 Arnold Classic, and forego possibly $100,000 or more because he wants to dethrone Jay Cutler and win the Mr. Olympia. That is actually big news - a move that just might make him king of the bodybuilding world.
And it also makes a lot of other pro bodybuilders happy, as they get to move up in the rankings and prize money.
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Agreed the guys in the 70's were a lot cooler. Phil should do the Arnold seems when guys only compete once a year they don't dial in right at the olympia
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Yeah, the #2 ranked in the world saying he is not going to compete at the 2011 Arnold Classic, and forego possibly $100,000 or more because he wants to dethrone Jay Cutler and win the Mr. Olympia. That is actually big news - a move that just might make him king of the bodybuilding world.
And it also makes a lot of other pro bodybuilders happy, as they get to move up in the rankings and prize money.
I agree that it's big news. For sure.
I am just not a fan of him at all. And i'm not really disappointed to see him gone. Just my opinion.
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good job dropping the ball phil ::)
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good job dropping the ball phil ::)
X2
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Evan Scentsomepanties just dropped a huge load from hearing the news...now he actually has a chance at being in the top 10...
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Evan Scentsomepanties just dropped a huge load from hearing the news...now he actually has a chance at being in the top 10...
;D
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He'll make all that money back at all the Schmoes "Eye's Wide Shut" parties
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Why is this even surprising??
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i dont get passing up a possible 100k payday. bad move. its not like the AC and the olympia are 6 weeks apart.
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So Brett Favre's consecutive game streak ends at 297 AND Phil Heath will only strip down once in 2011 instead of twice :o
The times they are a changing.
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i dont get passing up a possible 100k payday. bad move. its not life the AC and the olympia are 6 weeks apart.
i thought the AC was in march/april?
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Gh15 probably thinks it has something to do with his drug problems...
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Evan Scentsomepanties just dropped a huge load from hearing the news...now he actually has a chance at being in the top 10...
damn bro why all the hate......would u like to make a friendly wager on Evan crackin top 10 9 ;D
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Evan Scentsomepanties just dropped a huge load from hearing the news...now he actually has a chance at being in the top 10...
Evan will be top 6, possibly top 3..
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Phil should have competed. He more than likely would have won, getting a fat check and an Arnold title.
He's not going to beat the fridge with the judging the way it is and his physique is at the point now where there's really not a ton of improvement to be made. He's pretty close to maxed out.
He should grab the cash and titles while he can. Anything can happen, just ask Victor.
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Phil should have competed. He more than likely would have won, getting a fat check and an Arnold title.
He's not going to beat the fridge with the judging the way it is and his physique is at the point now where there's really not a ton of improvement to be made. He's pretty close to maxed out.
He should grab the cash and titles while he can. Anything can happen, just ask Victor.
I don't think Phil is maxes out. He is young and just started. Even though he is likely already using huge amounts of all the drugs possible, he can still make improvements every year and retain his conditioning so long as he keeps up the drugs, the food, and slowly keeps getting stronger. He hasn't been lifting crazy weights yet, he's going pretty heavy but he can add 90 lbs to all his major lifts I'm sure and doing so will make him even more freaky. I think phils got the potential to rival the physique Ronnie had, he doesn't have the same bone structure but it took Ronnie almost two decades to get to his prime, phils only been doing this for like 7 years.
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I don't think Phil is maxes out. He is young and just started. Even though he is likely already using huge amounts of all the drugs possible, he can still make improvements every year and retain his conditioning so long as he keeps up the drugs, the food, and slowly keeps getting stronger. He hasn't been lifting crazy weights yet, he's going pretty heavy but he can add 90 lbs to all his major lifts I'm sure and doing so will make him even more freaky. I think phils got the potential to rival the physique Ronnie had, he doesn't have the same bone structure but it took Ronnie almost two decades to get to his prime, phils only been doing this for like 7 years.
no he phsique can never rival ronnies
Phil has great arms And good delts
connie had great delts, great arms, great legs, , great back, great chest
he can never be like ronnie or close .
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no he phsique can never rival ronnies
Phil has great arms And good delts
connie had great delts, great arms, great legs, , great back, great chest
he can never be like ronnie or close .
There was a time when Ronnie didn't have any great body parts.
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There was a time when Ronnie didn't have any great body parts.
Yes, in the end of his career.
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Ronnie always had good body parts
you never saw Coleman hitting a most muscular Nd his arms are bigger than his pecs ....arms chest shoulders back all huge .. To be fair phil just has huge arms u can see it's in his genetic make up his chest will never catch his arms ...
No contest IMO
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Ronnie always had good body parts
you never saw Coleman hitting a most muscular Nd his arms are bigger than his pecs ....arms chest shoulders back all huge .. To be fair phil just has huge arms u can see it's in his genetic make up his chest will never catch his arms ...
No contest IMO
ronnies arms never overpowered his torso. That doesn't mean that his torso was always exceptional. Up until 97 Ronnie didn't have enough mass on his torso, or anywhere else for that matter, to compete with the big dogs. Phil just getting started. Give him 5 more years and watch his torso come up. His arms might still overpower it but in that case it'll just be some unseen freakyness in the arms with a torso comparable to Ronnie. I mean, hypothetically speaking. Ronnie is the best ever, no doubt. But I see the potential in Phil... I mean, he keeps adding about 5-10 lbs every year it seems, and is always shredded.
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Too narrow, plus his arms are getting so ridiculously big he's soon gonna face the same problems that plagued lee priest where his arms overpower everything else.
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Evan will be top 6, possibly top 3..
I'd put $$$ on it ;)
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i dont get passing up a possible 100k payday. bad move. its not like the AC and the olympia are 6 weeks apart.
Youth of today are fucking lazy. Now take a youthful bodybuilder and you have the recipe for a Rip Van Winkle on a food/hormone IV.
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ronnies arms never overpowered his torso. That doesn't mean that his torso was always exceptional. Up until 97 Ronnie didn't have enough mass on his torso, or anywhere else for that matter, to compete with the big dogs. Phil just getting started. Give him 5 more years and watch his torso come up. His arms might still overpower it but in that case it'll just be some unseen freakyness in the arms with a torso comparable to Ronnie. I mean, hypothetically speaking. Ronnie is the best ever, no doubt. But I see the potential in Phil... I mean, he keeps adding about 5-10 lbs every year it seems, and is always shredded.
But NO ONE ever made a such a positive transformation such as Ronnie AFTER turning pro
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Yeah, the #2 ranked in the world saying he is not going to compete at the 2011 Arnold Classic, and forego possibly $100,000 or more because he wants to dethrone Jay Cutler and win the Mr. Olympia. That is actually big news - a move that just might make him king of the bodybuilding world.
And it also makes a lot of other pro bodybuilders happy, as they get to move up in the rankings and prize money.
unless jay somehow loses 50lbs and comes in as small as heath then no, never happening. zero news. go back to buying some fitness girl some cake and then taking pictures of it ron.
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Doesn't matter Kai would have won anyway...and still will...
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Here we go. Again. ;) ;D
You can say what you want about his antics, we both agree. There's no doubt according to how shows are judged today, as long as he's 90% he'll win the Arnold and any other show outside the Olympia...He won't make the mistake of being off again...
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Yeah, the #2 ranked in the world saying he is not going to compete at the 2011 Arnold Classic, and forego possibly $100,000 or more because he wants to dethrone Jay Cutler and win the Mr. Olympia. That is actually big news - a move that just might make him king of the bodybuilding world.
And it also makes a lot of other pro bodybuilders happy, as they get to move up in the rankings and prize money.
Ron,
What was the name of the guy you thought to be natural?
THE BEEF
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Typical move by a pro who thinks he's the next Mr. O. A guy does well in a couple of shows and pushes the Mr. Olympia a bit and thinks he's earned the right to only do one show a year. Phils a superstar now ::)
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i really really dont like phil heath ,,he is everything that wrong with bodybuilding,,he is NOT READY,,what he is trying to do is to wait until o get improved and bigger with even more hgh and insulin and hit stage with aprearance that will be wider which ofcourse can happen with hgh even if your calvicles are of a 14 year old boy,,
he is just not good bodybuilder ,,he is phenomenal respons to hormone ,,but even there he lacks in many apect of bodybuilding,,he came up too fast,,he is illusion in a boxx,,it would be nice if he was ken wheeler but he is not not even close,,he is just a fella whos physiqe is not proportionate at all,,its the respond to drugs who made him big enough to walk on stage with condition that again is result of drug,,
he should never be mr o even if this is generation nothingness he should never make believe that his muscle is legit because it is all one big blub of syntetic,,there is no foundation there ,,yes he got calves....genetically he does,,,nothing to do with training,,his arms are the size you se because he uses seo and pull it ,,he just use alot of hormone mainly hgh and aas but also specific levels who only fellas who been many years in this do,,he hasnt been at it long enough to even think of doing it ,,first build a damn natural foundation
i really really do not like this fella,,he is stain on bodybuilding,,should never win o ,,i dont know who wil but there should be lots of effort put in to find the new dorian or ron ,,even dexter level,,someone who doesnt lack in the main main aspect of bodybuilder which is FOUNDATION ,, YOU CAN NOT HAVE MR O THAT IS SEEMING TO LOOK AS WIDE AS 175LB FELLA WHO TRAIN MONDAY AND WED AND FRIDAY ,,,REMEMBER THE WIDNESS OF PHIL HEATH IS NOT DUE TO CHEST OR CALVICLES IT IS DUE AND ONLY DUE TO SEVERE ABUSE OF GH!
this fella would never make top 6 in any o of the 90s
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Typical move by a pro who thinks he's the next Mr. O. A guy does well in a couple of shows and pushes the Mr. Olympia a bit and thinks he's earned the right to only do one show a year. Phils a superstar now ::)
Phil has never won a big show and hasn't won a show since Ironman 2008 and before NY Pro in 06.
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Phil has never won a big show and hasn't won a show since Ironman 2008 and before NY Pro in 06.
Who was the last guy to forgo the arnold's and ended up doing shittier than expected at the O? I know Dex did he did win the Mr O so he earned that right.
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i really really dont like phil heath ,,he is everything that wrong with bodybuilding,,he is NOT READY,,what he is trying to do is to wait until o get improved and bigger with even more hgh and insulin and hit stage with aprearance that will be wider which ofcourse can happen with hgh even if your calvicles are of a 14 year old boy,,
he is just not good bodybuilder ,,he is phenomenal respons to hormone ,,but even there he lacks in many apect of bodybuilding,,he came up too fast,,he is illusion in a boxx,,it would be nice if he was ken wheeler but he is not not even close,,he is just a fella whos physiqe is not proportionate at all,,its the respond to drugs who made him big enough to walk on stage with condition that again is result of drug,,
he should never be mr o even if this is generation nothingness he should never make believe that his muscle is legit because it is all one big blub of syntetic,,there is no foundation there ,,yes he got calves....genetically he does,,,nothing to do with training,,his arms are the size you se because he uses seo and pull it ,,he just use alot of hormone mainly hgh and aas but also specific levels who only fellas who been many years in this do,,he hasnt been at it long enough to even think of doing it ,,first build a damn natural foundation
i really really do not like this fella,,he is stain on bodybuilding,,should never win o ,,i dont know who wil but there should be lots of effort put in to find the new dorian or ron ,,even dexter level,,someone who doesnt lack in the main main aspect of bodybuilder which is FOUNDATION ,, YOU CAN NOT HAVE MR O THAT IS SEEMING TO LOOK AS WIDE AS 175LB FELLA WHO TRAIN MONDAY AND WED AND FRIDAY ,,,REMEMBER THE WIDNESS OF PHIL HEATH IS NOT DUE TO CHEST OR CALVICLES IT IS DUE AND ONLY DUE TO SEVERE ABUSE OF GH!
this fella would never make top 6 in any o of the 90s
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One of the most stupid posts I have ever read on that forum! :-X
Oh Yeah the arguably winner of this year ASC and Mr. O titles and the #2 bodybuilder in the World is not a good bodybuilder… :o
And Yeah Phil Heath is the only bodybuilder in the world who is abusing GH…. ;)
Lol at Phil wouldn’t place at the top 6 if he competed in the 90s… :D
I really used to like reading your Hormones thread, but not after knowing how limited your brain and logic are. :-\
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damn bro why all the hate......would u like to make a friendly wager on Evan crackin top 10 9 ;D
Naw man, cause it might just so happen in this bizarro world that Evan may win it over bbers far better than him...It happened twice with Jay Culter winning over Chris Cormier, Nasser winning over Levrone in 1999, and Gorro winning over Phil Heath this yr...
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Maybe Phil is mad at Arnold for being the only Mr O to not be at the Olympia this year. I'm still mad. Fuck you Arnold Schwarzefuckface >:(
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In regard to the talk about Evan on that thread, I can guarantee that he will not be out of Top 6...
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Naw man, cause it might just so happen in this bizarro world that Evan may win it over bbers far better than him...It happened twice with Jay Culter winning over Chris Cormier, Nasser winning over Levrone in 1999, and Gorro winning over Phil Heath this yr...
If phil Heath had huge pecs lats or legs instead of huge dispoportionate arms
we wouldn't even be having this convo right now....
Its all about this dudes arms
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ronnies arms never overpowered his torso. That doesn't mean that his torso was always exceptional. Up until 97 Ronnie didn't have enough mass on his torso, or anywhere else for that matter, to compete with the big dogs. Phil just getting started. Give him 5 more years and watch his torso come up. His arms might still overpower it but in that case it'll just be some unseen freakyness in the arms with a torso comparable to Ronnie. I mean, hypothetically speaking. Ronnie is the best ever, no doubt. But I see the potential in Phil... I mean, he keeps adding about 5-10 lbs every year it seems, and is always shredded.
Ronnie has one of the most proper frames for carrying mass ever seen. .Phil's got the same kind of huge ripped muscles but the frame for wide, thick pecs and back isn't even close.
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One of the most stupid posts I have ever read on that forum! :-X
Oh Yeah the arguably winner of this year ASC and Mr. O titles and the #2 bodybuilder in the World is not a good bodybuilder… :o
And Yeah Phil Heath is the only bodybuilder in the world who is abusing GH…. ;)
Lol at Phil wouldn’t place at the top 6 if he competed in the 90s… :D
I really used to like reading your Hormones thread, but not after knowing how limited your brain and logic are. :-\
Wow.
Quotes in red. That really get's the point across...
"Sac"
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One of the most stupid posts I have ever read on that forum! :-X
Oh Yeah the arguably winner of this year ASC and Mr. O titles and the #2 bodybuilder in the World is not a good bodybuilder… :o
And Yeah Phil Heath is the only bodybuilder in the world who is abusing GH…. ;)
Lol at Phil wouldn’t place at the top 6 if he competed in the 90s… :D
I really used to like reading your Hormones thread, but not after knowing how limited your brain and logic are. :-\
not only he would not make top 6 but most likley nto even top 10 he would have be somewhere between 8-12 back in 90s o
take a good good look at him ,,he is a black fella that is extremly narrow,,has absolutly no csalvicles smaller than girls! has a lot of seo done the right way in arms with severre abuse of growth hormone,,insulin is the only thing that will grow him more but not the growth ala ron or ken ,,the growth he will get out of it will be with lots of fat inside the muscle,he is maxed to the t ,,he is just not good enough of bodybuilder to be mr o but as i keep aying it is generation nothingness and i wont be surprised with anything
take a close look at the physiqe,,it is the most close resembling of a blow up doll blown with lots and lots of saline and silicon ,,his muscle is no where near solid,,it is full of syntetic and really really gh muscle which is different than steroid muscle ,,he just ddnt have the frame size and the fibers so he had to create them syntetically which every one does yes ,,but he was just too small frame for mr o and still even though gh got him wider from delt aspect he show a real real narrow torse that is equivelent to 175lb 25 year old in any gym around americana
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If phil Heath had huge pecs lats or legs instead of huge dispoportionate arms
we wouldn't even be having this convo right now....
Its all about this dudes arms
Do you think he is taking off to bring up his "lagging" bodyparts?
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If phil Heath had huge pecs lats or legs instead of huge dispoportionate arms
we wouldn't even be having this convo right now....
Its all about this dudes arms
and his arms have nolotil in them and specifically site enhancing oil ,,his arms are not a result of only steroid use and gh use,,its more than that,,checked and confimed by me
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I don't understand all the hate - Phil very nearly won the Olympia last year and he must see he's in with a good chance of dethroning Cutler who is getting older and can't maintain forever. Phil will take it eventually and it's realy between him and Kai from now on who (once Cutler retires) I think will end up having the greatest two-horse race in bodybuilding for a generation. But ultimately I think Phil will win out in the end.
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Do you think he is taking off to bring up his "lagging" bodyparts?
you can't change genetics ... He is narrow
all that make phil the gift is big arms... As he is now he should never beat dexter no way
phil is a good bber very articulate
but mr o no way
take the arms away or look past the arms and ?
and?
Coleman had the greatest arms ever take the arms away
you still have some of the best legs ever best chest greatest back
etc
phil just has huge over sized arms that's it
I'll agree he has good muscle shape
but compared to a complete bber like dex who has huge arms chest back legs better symettry flow balance
I think Heath is very overatted
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I don't understand all the hate - Phil very nearly won the Olympia last year and he must see he's in with a good chance of dethroning Cutler who is getting older and can't maintain forever. Phil will take it eventually and it's realy between him and Kai from now on who (once Cutler retires) I think will end up having the greatest two-horse race in bodybuilding for a generation. But ultimately I think Phil will win out in the end.
phil heath is not a mr o material ,,he may take it in THIS GENERATION NTOHINGNESS,,but he is the type of fella that in past would always end up second or third,,just not good enough ,,again in the 90s woudnt be even top 6 but in general intodays competition he is the type of shawn ray fella who should place always close to first but not first,,unlike heath .........ray should have placed first because the muscle was solid enough,,
phillip heath is what we call in bodybuilding a severe abuser and dependent of the drug hgh,,with out it he can not even place in o period,,the problem is that in today generation you are used to shit,,think about it songs shit,,movies kind of shit,,etc same for bodybuilder ...s h i t
so,,jason cutler even though look horrid now day with his big waist stil have lots more solid muscle than phillup heath because he actually worked for his muscle while heath got lot of gh kits orderedlol,,
in reality if kai could get in shape and lose the gut ,,he will be mr o ,,then again he is same shit generation nothingness abuse abuse abuse of gh ,,im talkin here burn victim doses taken up to 30 iu for fellas who didnt even do o yet,,so you basically got no one to challeneg title,,
shawn ray today would have been mr o ,,dexter jackson shoudl stil be able to take it again ,,and kevin woudl also be mr o today if competed,,a fella like denis wolf shoudl easily been mr o by now if he was born with the mentality of the 70s but no he iddnt ,,same as all generation notihngness,,he is much better than many of them btu still generation nothingness livign in americana ,,
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you can't change genetics ... He is narrow
all that make phil the gift is big arms... As he is now he should never beat dexter no way
phil is a good bber very articulate
but mr o no way
take the arms away or look past the arms and ?
and?
Coleman had the greatest arms ever take the arms away
you still have some of the best legs ever best chest greatest back
etc
phil just has huge over sized arms that's it
I'll agree he has good muscle shape
but compared to a complete bber like dex who has huge arms chest back legs better symettry flow balance
I think Heath is very overatted
He has a great back detail...there was a pic from very early in his career, probably before he turned pro, where he is doing a lat spread...at that point in his development, he looked very balanced...then "it" happened....
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I don't understand all the hate - Phil very nearly won the Olympia last year and he must see he's in with a good chance of dethroning Cutler who is getting older and can't maintain forever. Phil will take it eventually and it's realy between him and Kai from now on who (once Cutler retires) I think will end up having the greatest two-horse race in bodybuilding for a generation. But ultimately I think Phil will win out in the end.
shows the state of bbing
when a guy with 22 inch arms and a chest that is barely visible in the most muscular pose
ars that are bigger than his pecs the 3 rd largest muscle group in the body can be mr o
where is the symettry
but no it's ok because it's arms same with priest you can have higest arms on stage a d the chest of an 18 yr old boy
but it's ok because your arms are amazing
bbing has the same mentality of the gym rat
as long as your arms ate big your jacked and special
thank god for the 90s
Coleman cormier shawn dillet levrone etc
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God, what do you think of Kai's physique and drug regime (being able to put on as much muscle as he has in the last 4 years)...I've heard he's in the 34-36 i.u. range for GH, loves orals (no homo) and pounds the shit out of slin and of course SEOs. He doesn't seem to have a balloon physique but then again he's been lifting alot longer than heath and probably had a decent base.
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good job dropping the ball phil ::)
He dropped them down Haney's throat .
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He dropped them down Hany's throat .
fixed...
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shows the state of bbing
when a guy with 22 inch arms and a chest that is barely visible in the most muscular pose
ars that are bigger than his pecs the 3 rd largest muscle group in the body can be mr o
where is the symettry
but no it's ok because it's arms same with priest you can have higest arms on stage a d the chest of an 18 yr old boy
but it's ok because your arms are amazing
bbing has the same mentality of the gym rat
as long as your arms ate big your jacked and special
thank god for the 90s
Coleman cormier shawn dillet levrone etc
You still haven't shown me a picture of Heath not having a chest with his current physique.
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On my iPhone post any pic of his most muscular you will see my point
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On my iPhone post any pic of his most muscular you will see my point
Strong gay. Strong gay.
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not a pic of his chest..but still freaky...
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_4cA84Xkh6CQ/TNCfN7L9XiI/AAAAAAAAB1g/KgFNAjfKb68/phil%20heath%20hamstrings%20routine_thumb%5B2%5D.jpg?imgmax=800)
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God, what do you think of Kai's physique and drug regime (being able to put on as much muscle as he has in the last 4 years)...I've heard he's in the 34-36 i.u. range for GH, loves orals (no homo) and pounds the shit out of slin and of course SEOs. He doesn't seem to have a balloon physique but then again he's been lifting alot longer than heath and probably had a decent base.
gh25-30 iu a day
insulin level you cant even dream of ,,but as you can see it fucked him
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He has good calves
specially for a brotha
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I don't understand why bodybuilder take insulin if insulin ruined their physique. I mean it's horrible to see bodybuilder with big gut.
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I don't understand why bodybuilder take insulin if insulin ruined their physique. I mean it's horrible to see bodybuilder with big gut.
Adding insulin to a maxed out GH and steroid physique can can 20lbs of solid muscle in a year. This is why...You want to compete? You have to be big...Without insulin, Heath would be no bigger than than 225 now only because the short period of time...slin gives you a lot of muscle in short period of time but you sacrifice conditioning and waistline because of this.
This is how nasser went from 240s - 270s and Coleman went from 250s to 280s.
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Phil probably looked his best here:
(https://ifbbtv.com/video3/images/103_npc_usa_flexonline.jpg)
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Yeah, the #2 ranked in the world saying he is not going to compete at the 2011 Arnold Classic, and forego possibly $100,000 or more because he wants to dethrone Jay Cutler and win the Mr. Olympia.
or maby ron its because he decides he gives slightly a fuck about his health and only wants to diet down Once (with all the horrible prep thats nessecary) ?
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or maby ron its because he decides he gives slightly a fuck about his health and only wants to diet down Once (with all the horrible prep thats nessecary) ?
whats so horrible about it? todays preps with the chemicals they use are a joke. back in the 70's 80's early 90's preps were hard work. nowadays prep means sushi only 3 times a week.
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whats so horrible about it? todays preps with the chemicals they use are a joke. back in the 70's 80's early 90's preps were hard work. nowadays prep means sushi only 3 times a week.
thats my point smartypants
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Cutler is a disgraceful mr.olympia, horribly blocky, but who else deserves it? Kai? no. Wolf? no. Dexter? no. Branch? no.
Heath next yr I hope, or Roelly
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I'd rather look like Heath than any other Olympia contestant competing today.
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Naw man, cause it might just so happen in this bizarro world that Evan may win it over bbers far better than him...It happened twice with Jay Culter winning over Chris Cormier, Nasser winning over Levrone in 1999, and Gorro winning over Phil Heath this yr...
Ya but your saying he wont crack top 10 :D Cmon
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thats my point smartypants
Oh no you didn't ???
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shows the state of bbing
when a guy with 22 inch arms and a chest that is barely visible in the most muscular pose
ars that are bigger than his pecs the 3 rd largest muscle group in the body can be mr o
where is the symettry
but no it's ok because it's arms same with priest you can have higest arms on stage a d the chest of an 18 yr old boy
but it's ok because your arms are amazing
bbing has the same mentality of the gym rat
as long as your arms ate big your jacked and special
thank god for the 90s
Coleman cormier shawn dillet levrone etc
I always laugh at you're flat-out ignorance , for the umpteenth time the chest is NOT the third biggest muscle , back , quads and glutes are all bigger muscle groups. You're railing against Heath's supposed flaws and raving about Ronnies? are you kidding me? Ronnie can have 22-23" arms and yet have calves that look 17" in comparison? don't be a hypocrite. Ronnie can have the biggest arms ever and calves that look like they belong on a Ms Olympia?
Health is way more complete than Ronnie ever was from top to bottom fro head-to-toe his only real ' flaw ' is clavicle width ( which ironically was Shawn's yet it didn't stop people from screaming he should have been Mr Olympia ) you keep insisting Ronnie has better parts that's NOT how bodybuilding contests work it's poses NOT parts , in certain poses Heath's arms can dominate but overall not as bad as you make it out to be.
Heath is doing the wise thing , Jay is hit-or-miss when it comes to his conditioning evident from 09-10 and years previous , if Jay comes in off like he did with Dexter , Phil can beat him like Dexter did , Dexter is on his way down , Kai is another guy with a legitimate chance of beating these two alone in all probability can beat Jay and the Vic but we all know that story.
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it's poses NOT parts ,
This.
99% of people dont understand this.
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Heath is more complete that cole man that's your opinion cheaths 23 inch arms are righet beside his lacking chest... Coleman's 24 inch arms are the opposite end of his body
please don't bring you anti Coleman bullshit to this thread is boring and played out
with all due respect
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Heath is more complete that cole man that's your opinion cheaths 23 inch arms are righet beside his lacking chest... Coleman's 24 inch arms are the opposite end of his body
please don't bring you anti Coleman bullshit to this thread is boring and played out
with all due respect
LMAO what a crybaby :'( pointing out that you're a hypocrite because you're willing to overlook Ronnie's symmetry flaws and not Heath's isn't ' anti Coleman ' it's a fact. And did you really just type Ronnie's flaw isn't really a flaw due to proximity? ??? you can't be serious?
your fan-boy star-struck gee-golly Muscular Development told me Ronnie was the bestest ever is boring and played out , if anyone say anything that isn't less complimentary about Ronnie it's sacrilege seriously , I don't care what you or any other Ronnie nutt-sucker thinks I do what I want on this board regardless of what the fan-boys think , you don't like it don't respond either way I don't care , with all due respect ;D
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This.
99% of people dont understand this.
99.9% ;D
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Heaths crab most muscular
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/d1969816.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/03ad7f45.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/d32870ff.jpg)
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Forgive the jumbled post iPhone sometimes doesn't allow you to go down to the bottom and modify posts
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Heaths crab most muscular
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/d1969816.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/03ad7f45.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/d32870ff.jpg)
Okay this proves what? Heath's narrow? I think that's been established .
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I think Heath has great muscle bellies round muscles
and is always conditioned but I think he is very over hyped
not better than dexter or a conditioned vic
and I think his chest is genetic it actually lome better relaxed when posed it bunches up
arms too big for torso
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Phil probably didn't want to lose another Arnold Classic. Kai is Arnold's favorite. Not to mention Dexter, Branch, and Evan could all beat Phil. Too risky losing his #2 status.
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he is maxed out, who cares
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(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/a7510a08.jpg)
proper side chest with pro bber pecs
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/a02b9351.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/a02b9351.jpg)
again most muscular
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/a02b9351.jpg)
proper mm with pro bber chest development
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/a02b9351.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/RonnieColeman36.jpg)
us nd phil is mor complete that Coleman
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(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/a7510a08.jpg)
proper side chest with pro bber pecs
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/a02b9351.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/a02b9351.jpg)
again most muscular
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/a02b9351.jpg)
proper mm with pro bber chest development
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/a02b9351.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/RonnieColeman36.jpg)
us nd phil is mor complete that Coleman
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What part of his pecs are NOT developed? elaborate on this.
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I dont understand why everyone tries to use the MM to base everything off of.
The Most Muscular is the single pose that hides the most flaws. If you have good arms and delts, you have a amazing MM.
Post a FDB and RDB, and youll start to see flaws get exposed.
Hell, any pose that makes the BB open up, rather than allowing them to cover weak points and bunch up.
::)
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The only thing wrong with Heath's chest is the indentions or dimples on the side...other than that, it's full, thick and has detail...
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The only thing wrong with Heath's chest is the indentions or dimples on the side...other than that, it's full, thick and has detail...
Agree. Its just that he has the new BB conditioning. Good separation, but smooth, inflated balloon insulin physique.
I miss the 90's. BB is slowly dieing thanks to insulin ABUSE (not necessarily use) IMHO.
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Phils side chest looks like "shit"....he tries to cover his weak pecs (whats that gap he has?) by showing his arms...but you cant really ignore it..
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/a7510a08.jpg)
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Phils side chest looks like "shit"....he tries to cover his weak pecs (whats that gap he has?) by showing his arms...but you cant really ignore it..
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/a7510a08.jpg)
at least someone else sees wha. I see... That side chest is more like a side arm
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Nd you hate Coleman with a passion it blinds you you go from thread to thread and whenever Coleman is mentioned you just start typing bullshit you said bbing are not about bodyparts but poses
inform Coleman beats Heath in every damn pose
except the side triband maybe an and thi because of the shape of coleman's abs
fdb Coleman
front lat spread Coleman
most muscular Coleman
rdb Coleman
rear lat spread Coleman
youre a man obsessed
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Nd you hate Coleman with a passion it blinds you you go from thread to thread and whenever Coleman is mentioned you just start typing bullshit you said bbing are not about bodyparts but poses
inform Coleman beats Heath in every damn pose
except the side triband maybe an and thi because of the shape of coleman's abs
fdb Coleman
front lat spread Coleman
most muscular Coleman
rdb Coleman
rear lat spread Coleman
youre a man obsessed
You're obsessed with anyone who doesn't follow your blind worship of Ronnie , you just can't grasp that someone can't possibly see him as you do. and please tell me where I ever once claimed Heath beats Ronnie in any pose ??? you're arguing a point no one has even made , you're a peculiar guy
My beef with you was your hypocrisy in that you're willing to overlook Ronnie's flaws and not Phils , has nothing to do with them directly the only other thing I did say was he is more complete than Ronnie which is true. do yourself a favor and try and follow along with the posts and base your comments off of what is actually being typed.
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at least someone else sees wha. I see... That side chest is more like a side arm
Talk about irony ;D it's called the side chest not the side-delt pose.
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Phil probably didn't want to lose another Arnold Classic. Kai is Arnold's favorite. Not to mention Dexter, Branch, and Evan could all beat Phil. Too risky losing his #2 status.
The only thing Evan could beat Phil in, is getting a cab...
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Talk about irony ;D it's called the side chest not the side-delt pose.
bice choice of picture when there are a million better comleman side chest pics ..
I'm not gonna get drawn into any knd of "debate" with you because your an obsessed poster resonsible for. A 2000 thread about Coleman and yates but anyone with any sense would even dare say Heath is more complete or better than Coleman
so I'll leave it at that before you start cuttting and pasting your essays about Coleman and why he isn't good blah blah blah
Anyway back to Heath I think he should hve done the arnld and try to take out kai
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bice choice of picture when there are a million better comleman side chest pics ..
I'm not gonna get drawn into any knd of "debate" with you because your an obsessed poster resonsible for. A 2000 thread about Coleman and yates but anyone with any sense would even dare say Heath is more complete or better than Coleman
so I'll leave it at that before you start cuttting and pasting your essays about Coleman and why he isn't good blah blah blah
Anyway back to Heath I think he should hve done the arnld and try to take out kai
I can with ease say Heath is more complete because he has everything than Ronnie does and CALVES. and again who said Heath was better? you're again arguing a point no one is making and using the Truce thread as an excuse to run from your odd statements
Wiggs asked you as did I , about what is wrong with Phi's chest and as usual when pushed on your ignorant statements you just totally ignore the people who ask you.
Back to the topic Heath is wise in not doing the Arnold so he can be 100% come Olympia time , smart move considering he's #2 in the world
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And people are claiming Heath's chest sucks?
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im coming to the help of my jamaica boy mesomoorf here because nd as usual try to prove a point that is immposible,,ron colman is aLIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHTT TT TT years away even at hsi worse condition than phil heath ,,he just had severe mutation going and lot more surface on frame,,,godo surface not balooned up from within fat or balooneed up syntetic,,he had the syntetic gh too but before that he had lots of size that phillip heath can only dream of at his 200lb lol
oh and lee hainey is too light years away,,and o is your friendly friend dorian,,,
gh15 approved
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im coming to the help of my jamaica boy mesomoorf here because nd as usual try to prove a point that is immposible,,ron colman is aLIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHTT TT TT years away even at hsi worse condition than phil heath ,,he just had severe mutation going and lot more surface on frame,,,godo surface not balooned up from within fat or balooneed up syntetic,,he had the syntetic gh too but before that he had lots of size that phillip heath can only dream of at his 200lb lol
oh and lee hainey is too light years away,,and o is your friendly friend dorian,,,
gh15 approved
yes help him argue a point NO one is claiming the contrary to :-\ no one is arguing Heath is better than Ronnie this is in the imagination of your jamaica boy , like him please try and pay attention.
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Health is way more complete than Ronnie ever was from top to bottom fro head-to-toe
This has to rate as one of the dumbest things that anyone has ever said on here. ???
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Taken today... I think.
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This has to rate as one of the dumbest things that anyone has ever said on here. ???
when it comes to Coleman nd is blind rabid and delusional
after he spouted this nonsens. I stated phil doesn't beat coleman in any of the mandatories
he then started to bad pedal talking about ronnies calves in comparision to a missing chest an width
but
careful ... Please tread lightly
We don't want another 2000+ page thread
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Taken today... I think.
He could win the Flex Pro looking like that...
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He could win the Flex Pro looking like that...
Hes almost contest ready, why would he skip the whole 2011 season only to compete in Mr Olympia with the risk of "spilling over"? Not a good move.
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Hes almost contest ready, why would he skip the whole 2011 season only to compete in Mr Olympia with the risk of "spilling over"? Not a good move.
He might be doing a "Levrone" and come in late and win the show, issing people off. Remember how Nasser was pissed off that Levrone entered the Olympia late, and was supposed to be fined, but wasn't?
I say, ake the money and run, because what I think maybe happening is that there is a rivalry between Gorro (Kai) and The Gift, at the Arnold, like a Levrone vs Wheeler rivalry...and I think maybe even AMI has "hinted" to Phil or Kai that one or the other must win or enter the Arnold...
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This has to rate as one of the dumbest things that anyone has ever said on here. ???
Really? think about it , what does Ronnie have that Phil doesn't? what? Phil has everything Ronnie does plus calves e.g he's more complete , I never said better I said more complete from head to toe.
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when it comes to Coleman nd is blind rabid and delusional
after he spouted this nonsens. I stated phil doesn't beat coleman in any of the mandatories
he then started to bad pedal talking about ronnies calves in comparision to a missing chest an width
but
careful ... Please tread lightly
We don't want another 2000+ page thread
What's funny is you just wanted out of this conversation and the moment someone says anything that you agree with now you're ready to come back in. ::)
When it comes to paying attention to what was actually typed you're blind , delusional and have the attention span of a child. Please show me where I typed that Phil beat Ronnie in any pose , you can't do it because I never said that you're arguing a point I never made and you're doing so to try and escape your hypocrisy which is what I did point out. and how does one ' bad pedal ' from a point that was never made?
and as I pointed out before how and where is Heath's chest missing? wiggs asked you this and as usual when pressed on your dumb points you don't respond , you run. I asked you multiple times how is his chest missing or lacking and you can't come up with explanation. As I pointed out before you're a hypocrite because you're more than willing to overlook Ronnie's numerous flaws and not Phils and you're the genius who claimed Ronnie's weak calves aren't a flaw because they are on the opposite end of his body ::)
We get 2000+ page threads because of people like you who make dumb points , don't like to expand on them and run when pushed on them. And to further show how much of a hypocrite you are by acting like you're above getting involved in in these types of thread you just posted in the 2000+ page thread so you don't like it when you get called out on your dumb statements and look for any way out.