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Title: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: bigkahuna on December 15, 2010, 10:43:10 PM
Props to Hide a pro that actually trains hard

http://newgenerationtrainer.blogspot.com/ (http://newgenerationtrainer.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on December 15, 2010, 10:43:58 PM
strong yellow man
(http://vernvision.com/images/Fishing/funnyfish.jpg)
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: bigkahuna on December 15, 2010, 10:51:24 PM
Apparently free weight squats in Venice are almost unheard of!  ;D
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: kingNOLI on December 15, 2010, 11:38:56 PM
That's strong as fuck!!!!
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: hangclean on December 16, 2010, 12:48:26 AM
Not full range.
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: jeremyj on December 16, 2010, 12:52:24 AM
Most Gym rats could do 10 reps at 500 when loaded on gear so I guess not bad for a little guy. ;)
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: musclecenter on December 16, 2010, 01:51:35 AM
9 reps,not easy for a guy bodyweight around 220 lbs.
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: residue on December 16, 2010, 02:36:08 AM
squats make your bellybutton grow, i never do em
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: dj181 on December 16, 2010, 06:33:26 AM
Not bad, how's his weighted Chins 8)
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: kingNOLI on December 16, 2010, 07:35:35 AM
9 reps,not easy for a guy bodyweight around 220 lbs.

Hide always goes very deep so its very impressive!!!
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: sean on December 16, 2010, 08:35:54 AM
9 reps,not easy for a guy bodyweight around 220 lbs.

Yeah, but for a guy whos on grams of androgens and other expensive recovery agents, thats not amazing. I'm surprised quite regularly by what people think is heavy for squats on forums. Its starts of course at it lowest at BBing.com where your a monster if you can handle 315+ and here, 450 for reps is something to point out???
Just posted earlier this week, the video of the UCLA training room showed dozens of kids under 22years old, without belts on and without argument, far less in the juice department do triples with weight around that and more... Is anyone else with me on this? And, those were not full squats, although most to parallel.
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: Tito24 on December 16, 2010, 08:39:06 AM
(http://bp3.blogger.com/_taPC-1l2iog/R6YcUqihtJI/AAAAAAAAU1E/u3HMHj02YrY/s400/13.jpg)
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: musclecenter on December 16, 2010, 09:17:11 AM
Yeah, but for a guy whos on grams of androgens and other expensive recovery agents, thats not amazing. I'm surprised quite regularly by what people think is heavy for squats on forums. Its starts of course at it lowest at BBing.com where your a monster if you can handle 315+ and here, 450 for reps is something to point out???
Just posted earlier this week, the video of the UCLA training room showed dozens of kids under 22years old, without belts on and without argument, far less in the juice department do triples with weight around that and more... Is anyone else with me on this? And, those were not full squats, although most to parallel.
Hide is coming back since he going through some strains in his quads durring the 2010 season after a couple of months of rest.

 
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on December 16, 2010, 09:21:00 AM
Yeah, but for a guy whos on grams of androgens and other expensive recovery agents, thats not amazing. I'm surprised quite regularly by what people think is heavy for squats on forums. Its starts of course at it lowest at BBing.com where your a monster if you can handle 315+ and here, 450 for reps is something to point out???
Just posted earlier this week, the video of the UCLA training room showed dozens of kids under 22years old, without belts on and without argument, far less in the juice department do triples with weight around that and more... Is anyone else with me on this? And, those were not full squats, although most to parallel.

Exactly. I could fullsquat 315 for reps when I was 17. I rarely ever see anyone training legs like they should.



Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: musclecenter on December 16, 2010, 09:48:07 AM
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: LATS on December 16, 2010, 10:07:21 AM
for those that dont think it is all that impressive.. please remember that he did this after 12 sets of hamstring work and verticle leg presses.. if he did squats first we would be looking at larger numbers.. it is still extremely impressive..
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on December 16, 2010, 10:34:56 AM
Impressive yes, extremely no.
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: 2ND COMING on December 16, 2010, 10:52:06 AM
9 reps,not easy for a guy bodyweight around 220 lbs.

He's stocky, low center of gravity. These builds excell at lifting.  ::)
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: Evo on December 16, 2010, 11:01:13 AM
He's stocky, low center of gravity. These builds excell at lifting.  ::)

This...his squat ROM is very short.
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: tbombz on December 16, 2010, 11:13:26 AM
Exactly. I could fullsquat 315 for reps when I was 17. I rarely ever see anyone training legs like they should.



I'm a firm believer in progressive overload, however look at those guys in those videos legs. Look at most powerlifters legs. They don't look like a bodybuilders. They aren't huge. For some reason going super heavy on squats just doesn't produce gains like going a bit higher reps and feeling the muscle. Not to mention the fact that doing squats like that is treacherous on the knees. Can you find some powerlifters with big legs? The biggest legs are usually on guys who build their rep capacity, and are able to do big weight for tons of reps instead of massive weight for singles doubles and triples.
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: Tito24 on December 16, 2010, 11:17:39 AM
ronnie coleman had big legs and tons of weight on the bar
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: tbombz on December 16, 2010, 11:21:28 AM
ronnie coleman had big legs and tons of weight on the bar
Absofuckinglylutely...  But that was after 4 sets of heavy leg extensions and 3-4 sets of high rep squats... And after going super heavy he went on to do 3 or 4 sets of high rep leg press....   Using huge weight on all his exercises, and high reps on every set ecxcet the one where he squats 800 for 2 or 3...
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: dj181 on December 16, 2010, 11:21:55 AM
Squats are more of an ass and ham builder than quad builder, just ask Dr. Squat, Mr. Fred Hatfield ;D
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: LATS on December 16, 2010, 11:37:45 AM
tbombz is right.. i owned a few gyms.. i saw many guys squat perfect form but very heavy and have so so legs.. the guys that squatted moderate weight for 12-15 reps seemed to have the better legs in the long run.. legs do require a bit more volume in terms of reps.. ill take hides legs over any one of the powerlifters in the videos..  hide is only 230lb.. again, doing that weight after all the ham work and verticle leg presses is very impressive..
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on December 16, 2010, 12:15:50 PM
I'm a firm believer in progressive overload, however look at those guys in those videos legs. Look at most powerlifters legs. They don't look like a bodybuilders. They aren't huge. For some reason going super heavy on squats just doesn't produce gains like going a bit higher reps and feeling the muscle. Not to mention the fact that doing squats like that is treacherous on the knees. Can you find some powerlifters with big legs? The biggest legs are usually on guys who build their rep capacity, and are able to do big weight for tons of reps instead of massive weight for singles doubles and triples.

Powerlifters generally dont have big legs (big in relation to their squatting #s) because they squat with a low bar, wide stance technique, which has the hips as dominant muscles. Quadriceps are not dominant in a PL squat. However, when we are looking at olympic lifters they (almost) all seem to have huge, developed quads. This is because they squat highbar, close stance, and ass to the grass, all while being in an upright position. Squatting this way is quad dominant. Oh btw, they almost never squat "high rep" but keep their working repranges in the 1-6 reps.

Hope this helps. :)

(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2010/10-641-02/bed72-32d3a_legs_380.jpg)

(http://www.olympionikes.gr/site/images/stories/dimas1%20(Small).jpg)
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on December 16, 2010, 12:25:06 PM
Speaking of powerlifters with tiny quads:

Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: kingNOLI on December 16, 2010, 04:17:43 PM
I would be willing to put money on a challenge , you guys that think you can hang with Hide? I have seen these guys train high intensity little rest heavy as fuck. Those squats were after hamstrings . Anyone in , I will put $100 in the pot if Hide takes it he keeps the money!! Anyone else want to participate?
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: jeremyj on December 16, 2010, 04:54:37 PM
I would be willing to put money on a challenge , you guys that think you can hang with Hide? I have seen these guys train high intensity little rest heavy as fuck. Those squats were after hamstrings . Anyone in , I will put $100 in the pot if Hide takes it he keeps the money!! Anyone else want to participate?


Count Milos in I hear he needs the Money$$$$$$$. ;)
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: 2ND COMING on December 16, 2010, 05:23:32 PM
I would be willing to put money on a challenge , you guys that think you can hang with Hide? I have seen these guys train high intensity little rest heavy as fuck. Those squats were after hamstrings . Anyone in , I will put $100 in the pot if Hide takes it he keeps the money!! Anyone else want to participate?

Sure. Will you be supplying the gas for my cycle pre-challenge?

sounds tempting...
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on December 16, 2010, 05:28:56 PM
I would be willing to put money on a challenge , you guys that think you can hang with Hide? I have seen these guys train high intensity little rest heavy as fuck. Those squats were after hamstrings . Anyone in , I will put $100 in the pot if Hide takes it he keeps the money!! Anyone else want to participate?
hell yeah count me in hopefully
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: devilsmile on December 16, 2010, 05:31:02 PM
Speaking of powerlifters with tiny quads:



the audience seemed to have many smart and colorfull people aswell
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: tbombz on December 16, 2010, 05:33:15 PM
Powerlifters generally dont have big legs (big in relation to their squatting #s) because they squat with a low bar, wide stance technique, which has the hips as dominant muscles. Quadriceps are not dominant in a PL squat. However, when we are looking at olympic lifters they (almost) all seem to have huge, developed quads. This is because they squat highbar, close stance, and ass to the grass, all while being in an upright position. Squatting this way is quad dominant. Oh btw, they almost never squat "high rep" but keep their working repranges in the 1-6 reps.

Hope this helps. :)

(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2010/10-641-02/bed72-32d3a_legs_380.jpg)

actually i never knew olympic lifters did bodybuilding squats. is that mandatory for them?  this guys quads are awesome. (not to mention hes sexy as fuck..  :o )
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: cephissus on December 16, 2010, 05:46:02 PM
he has the ultimate physique!

i heard some powerlifters don't even do backsquats, just front, as it more closely mimics the snatch and clean/jerk.
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: kingNOLI on December 16, 2010, 06:50:56 PM
Props to Hide a pro that actually trains hard

http://newgenerationtrainer.blogspot.com/ (http://newgenerationtrainer.blogspot.com/)


Hide props to u!!!!
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: kingNOLI on December 16, 2010, 09:53:50 PM
I am sure very few can hang with Hide and go through a full workout.
It would be fun to see you guys gasp for air .

 ;D ???
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: magicuser on December 16, 2010, 09:54:53 PM
strong yellow man
(http://vernvision.com/images/Fishing/funnyfish.jpg)

does this fish have 1 head 2 body? or am I seeing it wrong?
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: sean on December 17, 2010, 12:29:57 PM
Exactly. I could fullsquat 315 for reps when I was 17. I rarely ever see anyone training legs like they should.

Cool vids man.. thats insane clean & press
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: spude on December 17, 2010, 12:38:50 PM
actually i never knew olympic lifters did bodybuilding squats. is that mandatory for them?  this guys quads are awesome. (not to mention hes sexy as fuck..  :o )

They squat with bar over their head, after jerk, the centre of balance is, well...centre, thats why they need to stay more upright than powerlifters...me thinks they often train by front squating
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on December 17, 2010, 02:07:48 PM
They do front and backsquatting as assistance exercises. HTH.
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: BB on December 17, 2010, 02:20:00 PM
For Olympic Lifting, the order usually goes Front/Back/Over-head squat(as mentioned, you squat with the bar held at lock-out, the Chinese squad use it a lot now). Also, if you look at the 2 major lifts(three if you count the discontinued Clean and Press), there is a decent amount of front squatting during the first part of those lifts.

As an aside, the general rule was that a good lifter should be able to Clean what they can Front squat for a triple. The second part of the lift, the Jerk is usually a tiny bit under what you Clean.

Front Squat usually equals 85-90% of back squat.

Snatch equals 80% of C/J or 60 to 65% of back squat.

I have not seen or can remember ratios for OH squat. But I guess 3/4 of your best back squat is a good number.
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: kingNOLI on December 17, 2010, 05:33:34 PM
IMPRESSIVE....MAYBE 5 PLATES SOON??

Props to Hide a pro that actually trains hard

http://newgenerationtrainer.blogspot.com/ (http://newgenerationtrainer.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: musclecenter on January 21, 2011, 08:19:45 PM
9 reps

Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: benchmstr on January 21, 2011, 08:28:00 PM
a pro bodybuilder on a crazy ammount of drugs can only do 455lbs, and people find that impressive?.....fucking sad...

bench
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: BB on January 21, 2011, 08:35:12 PM
I would've been more impressed if he yelled "I wanna hold it" at the end.....:).

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Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: geneticmarvel on January 21, 2011, 09:56:49 PM
9 reps,not easy for a guy bodyweight around 220 lbs.

Not bad? Who else looks like that and squats 2X their own body weight 9 times?
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: kingNOLI on January 21, 2011, 11:09:26 PM
a pro bodybuilder on a crazy ammount of drugs can only do 455lbs, and people find that impressive?.....fucking sad...

bench

He is a bodybuilder not a powerlifter. He is only 5 foot 5 ,225lbs..
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: meathead23 on January 21, 2011, 11:33:24 PM
haha look how low the bar is on the rack any1 notice that? youd think a todder was bout to get under it
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: local hero on January 22, 2011, 04:58:30 AM
yep,, some amazing quads on olympic lifters..


but same could be said of footballers ( soccer players in american speak) , sprint cyclists and sprint ice skaters, most have the big thick quad development round the knee, and alot of them dont even do direct quad work either....
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: Meso_z on January 22, 2011, 05:05:39 AM
9 reps


Take his toys away and he wont be able to squat even his own bodyweight.
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on January 22, 2011, 05:07:51 AM

lål that was a funny video..NO BULLSHIT :D

good job on the squats
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: geneticmarvel on January 22, 2011, 10:24:31 AM
yep,, some amazing quads on olympic lifters..


but same could be said of footballers ( soccer players in american speak) , sprint cyclists and sprint ice skaters, most have the big thick quad development round the knee, and alot of them dont even do direct quad work either....

What is a good way to bulk up the lower quads. Squats just seem to make them big around my hip and pecker area.
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: kingNOLI on January 23, 2011, 03:29:00 PM
Nice


9 reps


Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: benchmstr on January 23, 2011, 03:30:52 PM
He is a bodybuilder not a powerlifter. He is only 5 foot 5 ,225lbs..
doesnt matter....not impressive at all...

bench
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: jdooly on January 23, 2011, 03:36:41 PM
I'm a firm believer in progressive overload, however look at those guys in those videos legs. Look at most powerlifters legs. They don't look like a bodybuilders. They aren't huge. For some reason going super heavy on squats just doesn't produce gains like going a bit higher reps and feeling the muscle. Not to mention the fact that doing squats like that is treacherous on the knees. Can you find some powerlifters with big legs? The biggest legs are usually on guys who build their rep capacity, and are able to do big weight for tons of reps instead of massive weight for singles doubles and triples.
X2
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: geneticmarvel on January 23, 2011, 03:44:29 PM
doesnt matter....not impressive at all...

bench

225lbs squating 455x9 and looking like that isn't impressive?
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: benchmstr on January 23, 2011, 04:26:55 PM
225lbs squating 455x9 and looking like that isn't impressive?
on over 2-3 grams of shit a week?...not at all impressive..

bench
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: musclecenter on January 23, 2011, 06:47:47 PM
Hide caused a strain and swelling in his right quads last year,not easy to do 9 reps just months later.
Title: Re: Hide squats 455lb
Post by: splank on January 23, 2011, 07:15:17 PM
Dude squatted 455lbs.....good for him. Doesn't bother me one way or another. I have seen better and worse in the local gyms...I know one thing, I can't do what he did in that video...I can only wish :'(
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Post by: kingNOLI on January 27, 2011, 07:15:53 AM