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Title: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2010, 04:45:00 AM
Updated: Fri., Dec. 17, 2010, 1:45 AM 
Behind the broccoli
By MICHAEL A. WALSH
www.nypost.com

Posted: 11:11 PM, December 16, 2010



What this country needs is a crop of healthy, hunger-free kids -- and now, thanks to the hectoring of Michelle Obama and the terrible swift presidential pen of her husband, it has one: the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010. No more fat kids is now the law of the land: Eat the broccoli; leave the cannoli.

For nothing less than national security is at stake. "Military leaders tell us that when more than one in four young people are unqualified for military service because of their weight, childhood obesity isn't just a public health threat, it's not just an economic threat, it's a national security threat as well," quoth Michelle.

Never mind that we have an all-volunteer army and that turning fat bodies into fit bodies is one of its functions. No, Mama Obama is here to make sure you eat what's good for you. Who cares if Johnny can't read? At least he's not a porker.

Except he is.

Does anyone outside of the dwindling band of true believers on the left really think that an act of Congress can mandate healthy, hunger-free kids?

Or "affordable" health care, for that matter?

Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli this week made the key point, after a federal judge ruled that ObamaCare's "individual mandate" was unconstitutional: "Realize this isn't just about health insurance and health care; it's about liberty. Because if they can order us to buy health insurance, they can order us to buy cars, they can order us to buy books, they can order us to buy guns or asparagus."

Most Americans say it's asparagus, and they say the hell with it.

From a land of yeoman farmers, not subjects but independent citizens of free will, the national ideal has been transformed by the left and its media stooges into a mewling aggregation of victimized, helpless special-interest groups. At what point will Americans finally rise up and say, "Enough!" to the political class of both parties?

ObamaCare and the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010 are the things that expose modern liberalism for the iron fist in the velvet glove. Can't feed yourself? Dinner's on us. Out of work? We'll pay you to stay unemployed. After all, you're too stupid to make your own best decisions in what used to be personal matters.

All we ask in exchange for your freedom is your vote.

Contrary to the leftist narrative, America today is not the helpless victim of a malevolent conspiracy bent on turning the country into a wholly owned subsidiary of Halliburton. The nation's woes are the inevitable result of the left's own ethos, which celebrates weakness over strength, pathos over courage, ineptitude over mastery and atheism over faith.

When there's little more to life than base appetites and affordable health care, it's no wonder kids reach for the burgers and fries.

Where does it stop? Here in New York, Mayor Bloomberg is the scourge of trans fat and other lifestyle crimes. Los Angeles has banned the expansion of the fast-food industry in certain minority neighborhoods, and now Detroit is considering following suit. San Francisco outlawed Happy Meals unless they meet the diktats of the nutrition Nazis.

Forget private-property rights or the rumblings in your belly. In Obama's America, you will no longer be allowed to freely make economic and nutritional decisions about how to feed yourself and your family. Somebody else -- the city, the state, the first lady -- will do that for you. After all, it's a matter of national security.

Michael A. Walsh is the au thor of the thrillers "Hostile In tent" and "Early Warning" and, as David Kahane, "Rules for Radical Conservatives."

Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: blacken700 on December 17, 2010, 05:28:12 AM
it has to do with school lunches,have you seen some of the shit they feed kids these days.i have ,it's alright to eat this shit once in a while but not all the time.when i was a kid there were fat kids but now it's about half of the kids
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2010, 05:43:13 AM
Its everything.  Not just food, but everything these power mad freaks are trying to do.
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: blacken700 on December 17, 2010, 05:47:39 AM
your post was on the school lunches.which you have to admit was a misleading article
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: whork25 on December 17, 2010, 05:51:07 AM
your post was on the school lunches.which you have to admit was a misleading article

Yeah its horrible. She wants our kids to be healthier and live longer. What a bitch she is ::)
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2010, 06:14:34 AM
Did you read the entire thing.
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: 225for70 on December 17, 2010, 06:35:49 AM
Most liberal women Get there sons Penis'z cut at birth... 

No one ever talks about the poor boys choice...

Oh wait babies don't feel pain...

Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: whork25 on December 17, 2010, 06:50:02 AM
Did you read the entire thing.

Yep. Makes sense. Give the kids healthy food so they grow up to be healthy citizens.

This means they can work so no need for welfare to these people.
It will bring health costs down too.
And when they grow up to be adults they will be that more fuckable because they arent as fat.

Whats the problem?
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: blacken700 on December 17, 2010, 06:54:15 AM
Yep. Makes sense. Give the kids healthy food so they grow up to be healthy citizens.

This means they can work so no need for welfare to these people.
It will bring health costs down too.
And when they grow up to be adults they will be that more fuckable because they arent as fat.

Whats the problem?


 :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2010, 06:58:51 AM
How about mandating no video games and certain amount of exercise? 
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: blacken700 on December 17, 2010, 07:03:42 AM
video games, i'm all for getting rid of them. let the kids go out and play ball instead of playing with a joy stick ,eating chips and drinking soda
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: whork25 on December 17, 2010, 07:09:27 AM
How about mandating no video games and certain amount of exercise? 

So less video games and more physical activity for the kids? Yeah sounds horrible ???
 
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2010, 07:47:04 AM
I'm sure if I examine your life I can find a million things I believe are harmful and should regulate. 

Why are you libs such control freaks?  And who gives you the idea that you know better than individuals how to run their lives? 
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Option D on December 17, 2010, 07:50:28 AM
I'm sure if I examine your life I can find a million things I believe are harmful and should regulate. 

Why are you libs such control freaks?  And who gives you the idea that you know better than individuals how to run their lives? 

I know.. who are we to tell a woman to do with their bodies.. or who they can get married to.
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: OzmO on December 17, 2010, 07:55:15 AM
If they regulated school lunches for kids and they actually made sur they were served healthy food, not some ear marked bull shit contract for food that's not really healthy I wouldn't have a problem with that.  Kids do not have the abilities to make the right choices.  So if parents still insisted on feeding their kids crap they could do so by sending them to school with packed lunches of frozen Mac and cheese.  So in the end, we still have a choice.  


This whole "don't regulate anything and let the choices of the consumers regulate the market " has its limitations in practicality.
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2010, 07:55:41 AM
I am pro choice and could care less about gay marriage. 
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2010, 07:57:21 AM
Should we regulate fast food resturants? 
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: OzmO on December 17, 2010, 08:01:40 AM
Should we regulate fast food resturants? 

Not anymore then we are doing now.  I like these places being forced to accurately display what's in their food though.
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Option D on December 17, 2010, 08:07:36 AM
I am pro choice and could care less about gay marriage. 

So do act like its just liberals...
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2010, 08:08:24 AM
Not anymore then we are doing now.  I like these places being forced to accurately display what's in their food though.

What I don't grasp is why there is this compulsion and desire by libs to control every aspect of everyones'life and not leave people the fuck alone.  Its in everything.  

As if for thousands of years people have not gotten along until now and their bright ideas telling everyone ese how to live, what to read, what to watch, what to eat, what to buy, what insurance to carry, when to smoke, etc etc.  

I am at the point where I think the best thing is to split the nation in two, the nanny staters on the one side, and those of us who want to be left alone on the other.  


And another thing, what ever happened to the libs screaming "Keep your laws off of my body?"    
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Straw Man on December 17, 2010, 08:11:44 AM
LoL - this quote is a gem and this writer is an moron

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When there's little more to life than base appetites and affordable health care, it's no wonder kids reach for the burgers and fries.

Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2010, 08:12:49 AM
So do act like its just liberals...

Gay Marriage is shot down by people acrss the board, including in California as aided by minoities who came out for bama.  

Personally, I a pro-life, but think the govt has fucked up so many things, why add this to it as well.  
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Option D on December 17, 2010, 08:17:17 AM
Gay Marriage is shot down by people acrss the board, including in California as aided by minoities who came out for bama.  

Personally, I a pro-life, but think the govt has fucked up so many things, why add this to it as well.  

So are you trying to sit here and tell me Anti Gay marriage isnt a Republican Stance
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: OzmO on December 17, 2010, 08:17:17 AM
What I don't grasp is why there is this compulsion and desire by libs to control every aspect of everyones'life and not leave people the fuck alone.  Its in everything.  
As if for thousands of years people have not gotten along until now and their bright ideas telling everyone ese how to live, what to read, what to watch, what to eat, what to buy, what insurance to carry, when to smoke, etc etc.  
I am at the point where I think the best thing is to split the nation in two, the nanny staters on the one side, and those of us who want to be left alone on the other.  

And another thing, what ever happened to the libs screaming "Keep your laws off of my body?"    

I think it's several reasons:

- Money is involved.   This I think is #1
- the idea that people as a whole do not make the right choices and the governments job is to protect them from that.
- fully Unregulated capitalism will result in less choices.
- fucking do-gooder mentality

Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2010, 08:19:14 AM
So are you trying to sit here and tell me Anti Gay marriage isnt a Republican Stance

Its a voters stance since everywhere they try to pass this, including in Dems majority states, it is shot down. 

Personally, I don't give a shit.  If two twinks want to get married and divorce each other, fine. 

   
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: OzmO on December 17, 2010, 08:20:58 AM
Gay marriage will eventually pass.  In the end what the fuck does that have to do with anything?
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2010, 08:21:39 AM
Using the rationale of the left wingers, I can make a compelling case for banning gay sex.  Should we do that to save money, since the taxpayer has to pay for a ton of health care and diseases the twinks spread among each other?  
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2010, 08:22:46 AM
Gay marriage will eventually pass.  In the end what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

Those twinks will rue the day they chose to get married. 
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Option D on December 17, 2010, 08:22:56 AM
Using the rationale of the left wingers, I can make a compelling case for banning gay sex.  Should we do that to save money, since the taxpayer has to pay for a ton of health care and diseases the twinks spread among each other?  

same thing with guns then.. we can go all day with this...
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: tonymctones on December 17, 2010, 08:23:29 AM
I think you ninnies are misunderstanding the point 3 is trying to make...


WHO ARE THEY TO FUKING DECIDE WHAT I SHOULD DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF i want to be an obese 400lb monster, then thats my choice
If i want to be a person who is in decent shape, then thats my choice

neither one should be mandated

Where does this constant need to be coddled come from, where you all mommas boys? wtf?

I agree with oz about being forthcoming with whats in the foods and their nutritional content so that we can make an informed decision but thats where it should stop.
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2010, 08:27:41 AM
It never stops.   Regulate talk radio, regulate food, regulate video games, regulate play gruonds, reguate what can be in movies, regulate health care, regulate this, regulate that. 

And who the fuck are these people to make these decisions for me that are so virtuous and perfect that know better than me?  Obama, Newt, Sarah, Clinton, GWB? 

Fuck that  -  leave me alone!   
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Option D on December 17, 2010, 08:29:12 AM
I think you ninnies are misunderstanding the point 3 is trying to make...


WHO ARE THEY TO FUKING DECIDE WHAT I SHOULD DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF i want to be an obese 400lb monster, then thats my choice
If i want to be a person who is in decent shape, then thats my choice

neither one should be mandated

Where does this constant need to be coddled come from, where you all mommas boys? wtf?

I agree with oz about being forthcoming with whats in the foods and their nutritional content so that we can make an informed decision but thats where it should stop.
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Oh i agree.. but i dont like when asses like him say "liberals try to control our lives" then when i point out that Repubs are the political party associated with not letting Homos get married, as well as the anti-choice stance... and then agrees with it.. but still says libverals are controling.
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Straw Man on December 17, 2010, 08:29:34 AM
I think you ninnies are misunderstanding the point 3 is trying to make...


WHO ARE THEY TO FUKING DECIDE WHAT I SHOULD DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF i want to be an obese 400lb monster, then thats my choice
If i want to be a person who is in decent shape, then thats my choice

neither one should be mandated

Where does this constant need to be coddled come from, where you all mommas boys? wtf?

I agree with oz about being forthcoming with whats in the foods and their nutritional content so that we can make an informed decision but thats where it should stop.

neither one is mandated so STFU
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: OzmO on December 17, 2010, 08:33:44 AM
Using the rationale of the left wingers, I can make a compelling case for banning gay sex.  Should we do that to save money, since the taxpayer has to pay for a ton of health care and diseases the twinks spread among each other?  
There are plenty of religious nuts who would love that.

So what?

What i posted wasn't a rational if that what you ar referring to.
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: OzmO on December 17, 2010, 08:35:41 AM
I think you ninnies are misunderstanding the point 3 is trying to make...
WHO ARE THEY TO FUKING DECIDE WHAT I SHOULD DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IF i want to be an obese 400lb monster, then thats my choice
If i want to be a person who is in decent shape, then thats my choice

neither one should be mandated
Where does this constant need to be coddled come from, where you all mommas boys? wtf?

I agree with oz about being forthcoming with whats in the foods and their nutritional content so that we can make an informed decision but thats where it should stop.

Yeah when it comes to adults I agree.  When it comes to public education, lunches served, I think standards should be set.
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2010, 08:37:41 AM
There are plenty of religious nuts who would love that.

So what?

What i posted wasn't a rational if that what you ar referring to.

I posted that to make the point that we all can point out many things in society that are not good and cost us $ $ $.  This is the same rationale being used by the statists to compel pople to purchase health insurance that is only ok'd by the Govt. 

Where does it stop?     
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: tonymctones on December 17, 2010, 08:38:02 AM
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Oh i agree.. but i dont like when asses like him say "liberals try to control our lives" then when i point out that Repubs are the political party associated with not letting Homos get married, as well as the anti-choice stance... and then agrees with it.. but still says libverals are controling.
It never stops.   Regulate talk radio, regulate food, regulate video games, regulate play gruonds, reguate what can be in movies, regulate health care, regulate this, regulate that.  

And who the fuck are these people to make these decisions for me that are so virtuous and perfect that know better than me?  Obama, Newt, Sarah, Clinton, GWB?  

Fuck that  -  leave me alone!    

iono broham seems like he just doesnt like being told what to do by anyone...
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: tonymctones on December 17, 2010, 08:41:07 AM
neither one is mandated so STFU
it was hyperbole to make the point  ;)

but since that point seemed to sail right over your head like many others points on this board Ill spell it out for you...

we should have the RIGHT to decide what we want to do, we should not have it decided for us like a adult mommas boy who still needs help getting dressed in the morning  ::)
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: tonymctones on December 17, 2010, 08:42:44 AM
Yeah when it comes to adults I agree.  When it comes to public education, lunches served, I think standards should be set.
agreed to a certain extent I think there should be some standards and if parents dont like them they can send them to school with a home lunch, soon these will be regulated though  ;D
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: tonymctones on December 17, 2010, 08:45:27 AM
Yeah when it comes to adults I agree.  When it comes to public education, lunches served, I think standards should be set.
you know they already took out full calorie can drinks from some high schools?

WTF???

you trust these kids to drive a car but not to make an educated decision on drinking full calorie cokes?

this is the nanny bs that im referring to

if youre mentally not capable of making the decision then fine, but if youre trusted to drive a car we shouldnt be regulating what you drink or dont drink in regards to non alcoholic beverages...
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Option D on December 17, 2010, 08:46:53 AM
you know they already took out full calorie can drinks from some high schools?

WTF???

you trust these kids to drive a car but not to make an educated decision on drinking full calorie cokes?

this is the nanny bs that im referring to

if youre mentally not capable of making the decision then fine, but if youre trusted to drive a car we shouldnt be regulating what you drink or dont drink in regards to non alcoholic beverages...
Could it be..... a quadpost meltdown.. havent seen one of these since... well 3333s last thread.. lmao
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2010, 08:47:08 AM
Kid can play football and wrestle, and risk death or paralysis, but god forbid he has Swiss Army knife or porn mag!  
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: tonymctones on December 17, 2010, 08:48:17 AM
Could it be..... a quadpost meltdown.. havent seen one of these since... well 3333s last thread.. lmao
hahahah hey its not my fault you cant keep up  :D
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Option D on December 17, 2010, 08:50:49 AM
Kid can play football and wrestle, and risk death or paralysis, but god forbid he has Swiss Army knife or porn mag!  

i immediatley thought of the southpark episode..WTF.. when the kids were wrastlin'
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: MCWAY on December 17, 2010, 09:15:41 AM
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Oh i agree.. but i dont like when asses like him say "liberals try to control our lives" then when i point out that Repubs are the political party associated with not letting Homos get married, as well as the anti-choice stance... and then agrees with it.. but still says libverals are controling.

That's simply the case. Or, as David Horowitz puts it, Please stop referring to leftists... whose agendas are a socialist and even fascist utopia (redistribution by racial preferences) as "liberals." These are not liberals. They are leftists. The only thing they are liberal about is hard drugs and sex. In every other respect, they want to control your lives. Their traditions are of the left, their ideas are of the left, their agendas are of the left. You can’t really complain about the double standards for the past, if you continue to apply those double standards to the present.

Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2010, 09:16:51 AM
A control freak to the core. 

Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2010, 09:21:13 AM






Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 17, 2010, 07:08:29 PM
Bump for gw.
Title: Re: The Liberals' war on Freedom of Choice (Pro Choice only applies to Abortion)
Post by: Straw Man on December 30, 2010, 06:05:32 PM
Republicans Defending Michelle Obama's WAR on Freedom of Choice??

WTF??

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/29/AR2010122901940.html