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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: dj181 on December 18, 2010, 01:56:25 PM
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Allright fellas, I'm gonna run a 10-day fat-loss experiment, starting either tomorrow or on Monday, that way I will get it over with before New Years Eve ;D So my plan is it hit a hard cardio session upon waking and another after my last meal. These hard cardio sessions will be at or near AT (aerobic-anaerobic threshold pace) for 20 to 30 min a pop, and I will eat just 2 meals a day, breakfast and dinner. I will keep my total cals at about 800 a day, and keep my carb grams at about 80 grams per day. I will take before and after measurements of my waist and before and after skinfolds of my abs and ilium. Also, my stationary bike has a digital bodyfat reading by hand sensors, so I will use that to give a reading of before and after progress. The bodyfat reading from the bike isn't accurate since it gives too high of a reading, but it can still be used to assess body comp changes.
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are you sure you have the will power for 10 days of this?...i had a buddy that tried this not long ago...epic fail on his part...
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Looks tough, you will probably lose muscle from this crash dieting and intense aerobics = muscle loss. Depends on your goals.
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Well, I did it for 14 days so years ago, and it was even more extreme, being that I limited carb intake to around 40 grams daily. And yeah, I was a complete zombie after the 4th or 5th day, but I did cut my bf % from 12 to 7.5 in those 14 days ;D I was messing around with carbs earlier this year, and I couldn't handle 40 grams this time around, coz it gave me blurry and double vision, but 80 grams was tolarable.
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I hear ya Mr. Nobody, but when I did it some years ago I only lost 1 pound lean and 8 pounds fat, so that's a sacrifice I can take. Plus, after it's over, it's easier for me to stay lean coz of the motivation it gives me. I don't know why, but I my experience it's much easier for me to make quality progress once I'm relatively lean. By quality progress I mean gaining LBW, without adding much fat. Again I think it comes from the motivation of looking good.
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You take any illegal supps, dude?
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No man, I guess that the only "drug" that I will use will be black coffee.
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No man, I guess that the only "drug" that I will use will be black coffee.
Ok, true natural,rare species...How much you gonna lose...weight/inches/bf...
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Good luck DJ, that's the amount of calories I do for 14 days before a big run. It can be done, but it's tough for sure
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I'm on day two of only 50 carbs and I'm not too fucking happy about it and I'm dizzy and have a headache...
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Damn 800 calories is nothing, I just ate that much in a meal. :/
Pizza Hut? You are still a youngster metabolism is reigning supreme plus running after hoes. 8)
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I hear ya Wiggs, I got blurry and double-vision after 3 day on 40 grams a day. And Spude, I'm not sure how it will be this time around, but I'm hoping to drop at least 3% bodyfat, and I'm hoping to lose at least 3 inches off of my fat and bloated belly.
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Ok, I got the diet mapped out, and it will be as follows: BREAKFAST: 1. Black Coffee 2. 75 grams of chesse (sorry, not sure how many grams are in an ounce) 3. 250 ml of Red Bull (again, I'm in europe now, and they don't use ounces here) DINNER: 1. 1 large chicken breast (roughly 6 ounces I think) 2. A half a liter of 2% milk TOTALS: Cals: 854 Pro: 87gr Carb: 56gr
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Nah man just some rice and minced beef miced mixed with onions (fried), large portion.. I try to eat a lot before my workouts and one big meal afterwards with 3 protein shakes every day.. and I try to keep it at maximum 2000 calories when I'm not working out... XD no pizza hut for me
Nice, what kind of of protein you using?
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This one, Mr.Nobody approved ???
http://www.myo.no/shop/shop_vis.asp?id=2&kid=2&pid=97 (http://www.myo.no/shop/shop_vis.asp?id=2&kid=2&pid=97)
Not bad. Seems to be working for you by your pics you are improved. Waiting on Goodrum to chime in to offer his products. 8)
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And here's my stats: Waist: 34 inches % bf: 15.8 Ab skinfold: 20 mm Ilium skinfold: 14 mm
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Thanks X, it ain't gonna be easy, but I think that I will be able to make it through just 10 days of torture ;D
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You'd probably better off consuming just whey protein isolate shakes. Add some ice and shake, make it creamy. 200 or so grams of protein. Each shake 20 - 30 grams. Chew on some sugarfree gum, or celeri in between shakes
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Thanks for the tip TRIX, the key will be to see if I can handle 50 some carb grams daily. This should be interesting to say the least.
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but I did cut my bf % from 12 to 7.5 in those 14 days
No you didn't.
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No you didn't.
fight fight ;D
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I can go zero carbs for ever and I am not less energic than when I go 400gr of carbs
I just look like shit to
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But the thing is, this isn't just a lo-carb diet plan, it is also very lo-cal. Not more than 900 total cals per day.
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can you do daily scale weight posts?
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I thought about a 5-day update, or maybe even an every 3-days update. P.S. I will probably be posting some fvcked up bullshit after 3 to 4 days into thing, do to massive brain drain lol Today is day one, and of course I'm feeling fine, but I can't say that it will be the same after a few more days ;D I'm not gonna lift any weights during this 10 day period, but I will at least do 2 30-min daily bouts of AT, and maybe even 3 times daily, if I can handle it. I just came back from the supp shop, seeing if they had any ECA (remember, I'm in poland) but it's not legal here either, so I gotta rely on strong black coffee I guess.
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. I just came back from the supp shop, seeing if they had any ECA (remember, I'm in poland) but it's not legal here either, so I gotta rely on strong black coffee I guess.
See if the pharmacy has broinkaid=25mcg of ephedrine
buy caffeine pills and aspirin. There is your ECA stack, isn't the best but with black coffee you should be good to go
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Well, I did it for 14 days so years ago, and it was even more extreme, being that I limited carb intake to around 40 grams daily. And yeah, I was a complete zombie after the 4th or 5th day, but I did cut my bf % from 12 to 7.5 in those 14 days ;D I was messing around with carbs earlier this year, and I couldn't handle 40 grams this time around, coz it gave me blurry and double vision, but 80 grams was tolarable.
Wow 40% loss of fat in 14 days.... ::)
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Well, maybe you would like to question the fella who did the bodyfat assement? His name is Mr. JM Blakey, with a 700 pound plus bp in yo face 8) Anyways, I'm just going by what he got from his readings. P.S. Mr. Blakley has a Masters of Science in Exercise Physiology from The Ohio State University, so I guess that he was rather qualified to do the bodyfat assesment ;D
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BTW, I just finished the 30-min bike bout, and it said that this bout cost me about 500 cals, so I guess that I'm on my way. And thanks for the suggestion newmom, but I think that the black coffee will suffice ;D
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Yesterday was my 1st day, and I followed the whole protocol, except that I skipped the chicken breast at dinnertime. Therefore my total daily caloric intake was closer to 600 cals. I'm feeling fine at the moment, so I will forego the chicken breast again today. I did 2 30-min AT aerobic bouts yesterday, and I may try to get 3 in today.
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Yesterday was my 1st day, and I followed the whole protocol, except that I skipped the chicken breast at dinnertime. Therefore my total daily caloric intake was closer to 600 cals. I'm feeling fine at the moment, so I will forego the chicken breast again today. I did 2 30-min AT aerobic bouts yesterday, and I may try to get 3 in today.
monster willpower..... i simply cant diet these days....evry day is a cheat day..
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Well I guess that there are 2 major reasons fueling my motivation. First and foremost it is vanity, I'm just sick and tired of looking like a fat and bloated toad. And the second one is curiousity, I really want to see what is possible within 10 days. I'm not so sure if this bodyfat tester on my bike actually works right, but I am sure that the measurements are accurate ie. Waist measurement and skinfold readings. I just finished my 1st bike bout, and I was able to stay at the same intensity as yesterday, which surprised me due to the fact of the carb and cal depletion.
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Well I guess that there are 2 major reasons fueling my motivation. First and foremost it is vanity, I'm just sick and tired of looking like a fat and bloated toad. And the second one is curiousity, I really want to see what is possible within 10 days. I'm not so sure if this bodyfat tester on my bike actually works right, but I am sure that the measurements are accurate ie. Waist measurement and skinfold readings. I just finished my 1st bike bout, and I was able to stay at the same intensity as yesterday, which surprised me due to the fact of the carb and cal depletion.
I always get a laugh at these 10 day --5 day starvation diets..lol
This 10 day 500 cal or whatever diet as you call it is not dieting bro..its starvation.then when its over what then??.I wouldnt even bother with your 10 day starvation..just try eating protein every 3 hours (6oz)and limit your carbs to your 80 gr during the day..do some weights a few days a wk and some fat burning cardio daily..your food choices are terible..Milk?Cheese?...loose the milk(loaded in sugar) and the cheese...Have complex carbs for your carbs,yams,sweetpotatoes,rice,oatmeal.... (no sugar)and chicken breast/white fish for ur protein...
Hope this helps bro....
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Thanks for the input Tomanater, but I really don't think that the food choices are so important, and that is part of the reason for it not being a "pure and clean" bodybuilding diet. The 2 major aspects of it for me are low carbs (less than 60 grams) and low cals (less than 900). And that's a big part of this experiment, to see if a "pure and clean" bodybuilding diet is really needed. And as far as after, well I won't be going on any rebound/binge escapades if that's what you mean. This is basically a motivation spark to get the ball rolling so to speak.
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Thanks for the input Tomanater, but I really don't think that the food choices are so important, and that is part of the reason for it not being a "pure and clean" bodybuilding diet. The 2 major aspects of it for me are low carbs (less than 60 grams) and low cals (less than 900). And that's a big part of this experiment, to see if a "pure and clean" bodybuilding diet is really needed. And as far as after, well I won't be going on any rebound/binge escapades if that's what you mean. This is basically a motivation spark to get the ball rolling so to speak.
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Good luck bro......I just saw your were tired of being fat>....cleaning up your diet is the way to go..but like i said good luck...
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I hit the wall last nite after 3 and a half days in, it was obvious after I nearly passed out and fell off my stationary bike during my 2nd 30-min AT aerobic session LOL!
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I hear ya man! Last nite after that aerobic session I had some chicken and rice, so I added about 300 cals with that meal and brought my daily intake up to about 900 cals. One important thing that I've learned is that I can handle 3 days in a row of lo-carbs ie 50 to 60 grams a day.
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I hear ya man! Last nite after that aerobic session I had some chicken and rice, so I added about 300 cals with that meal and brought my daily intake up to about 900 cals. One important thing that I've learned is that I can handle 3 days in a row of lo-carbs ie 50 to 60 grams a day.
it's good to trick the body every few days
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I hit the wall last nite after 3 and a half days in, it was obvious after I nearly passed out and fell off my stationary bike during my 2nd 30-min AT aerobic session LOL!
Pussy.
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it's good to trick the body every few days
QFT-- One time I ate a live Racoon. My body was convinced that I was eating popcorn though.
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QFT-- One time I ate a live Racoon. My body was convinced that I was eating popcorn though.
LoL ;D
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crash dieting only works when your younger in your 20's
he can get away with it and maybe lot loose muscle
but he will certainly rebound fatgain unles he wishes to chew on leaves and chewing gum all day to keep cals low
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Allright fellas, I'm gonna run a 10-day fat-loss experiment, starting either tomorrow or on Monday, that way I will get it over with before New Years Eve ;D So my plan is it hit a hard cardio session upon waking and another after my last meal. These hard cardio sessions will be at or near AT (aerobic-anaerobic threshold pace) for 20 to 30 min a pop, and I will eat just 2 meals a day, breakfast and dinner. I will keep my total cals at about 800 a day, and keep my carb grams at about 80 grams per day. I will take before and after measurements of my waist and before and after skinfolds of my abs and ilium. Also, my stationary bike has a digital bodyfat reading by hand sensors, so I will use that to give a reading of before and after progress. The bodyfat reading from the bike isn't accurate since it gives too high of a reading, but it can still be used to assess body comp changes.
800?
thats like a can of coke and a banana
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Hey X, I don't know if I lost any strength since I haven't had any weight training bouts since I've started this protocol, but I just came up with a new idea, so check my carb question post regarding this idea ;D
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Ok, I got the diet mapped out, and it will be as follows: BREAKFAST: 1. Black Coffee 2. 75 grams of chesse (sorry, not sure how many grams are in an ounce) 3. 250 ml of Red Bull (again, I'm in europe now, and they don't use ounces here) DINNER: 1. 1 large chicken breast (roughly 6 ounces I think) 2. A half a liter of 2% milk TOTALS: Cals: 854 Pro: 87gr Carb: 56gr
why waste the cals on cheese ? you can eat more of something else. cheese is high calorie for such a small portion
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Coz cheese has a decent fat content, and fat helps with satiety ie. it makes one feel not so hungry
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Coz cheese has a decent fat content, and fat helps with satiety ie. it makes one feel not so hungry
really ? i eat way to much cheese just to satisfy my hunger.... a whole can of tuna is about the same cals
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Ok, here's my mid-term report. My waist is down 2 inches, from 34 to 32, and my bodyfat is down 1.6% from 15.8% to 14.2%
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Fuck that bro..senseless imo .
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Why is it senseless? Do you have a better way to get lean? FYI. I've been a legit sub-6, even God (gh15) can testify to dat ;D