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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Secret Stack on December 26, 2010, 02:39:32 AM
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I get a vibe that the following (below) isn't to the same tune anymore. Back up a few months and all you have to do to go up in the weight brackets indicated is to "up your dose" only through test according to the "bible" guidlines written below, ALL at a maximum 10% WITHOUT adding gh.
I get the feeling fastforwarded a few months, that now all you will end up with by upping your test dose WITHOUT gh is just a "bloofy" physique. I didn't go searching for direct quotes from gh15, but it's embedded in our heads recently that you dont just go up in dose of test and expect to be lean, now, gh is a must if you want to avoid just going "bloofier". But confused reading "the bible" below where the follwing clearly states:
in regards to absolit limits of the hormonized bodybuilder,,
absolit limits of hormonized bodybuilder 5'9 5'10:
500-750mg legit test = 220-240 lb at 10%,,
1 gram-1.5 gram legit test = 240-260 at 10%,,
over 1.5 gram up to 3 gram = 260-300lb at 10%,,
anything under 10% at those numbers gh is a must
this is not up tp arguments meaning,,no you can not be 245 lb at 10% on 500-750mg testosterona
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Thread: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=344528.msg4836579;topicseen#msg4836579
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same exact tune,,you need gh as base and on top of it thsoe doses of testosterona unless you are very young 18-22 and really have veyr high natural hgh ,,which i rare ,,you still will need syntetic hgh then to get to the higher numbers but youll be able to pull 200lb 6% only on aas then IF your natural gh is at the highest level in those ages 18-22,,in general everyone is on gh before they go on high doses test inorder to NOT look bloofy and to look quality and volumized and 3 dimentional at the numbers stated
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GH15 contradicts himself daily. People are genetically different, it doesn't fit in to neat little boxes.
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God, I want to maximize my fat burning...I already have very decent size compared to your average joe but my problem is I let myself get very fat over the years, marriage, complacency then laziness. Now I'm trying to dig myself out of this hole I put myself into. i'm on 750 mg of HG sustanon (organon) my strength is through the roof, size I've added is great, I want to fuck broads 24 7. there's a little water retention but I control it with lower carbs, and .50 arimidex eod...I'm also on 100mg of t-3, 25 mg of proviron ed.
Like I've stated before, I'm not a big eater so I'm getting about 200mg of protein per day, (I'm not trying to get huge now.) I'm currently around 22%bf. In order to kick up fat burning and muscle building which in turn would burn more fat, I'm eventually (sooner than later) going to add 5 i.u. of gh, ECA and maybe clen. I'll do carb cycling and just kind of do that until progress starts...Anything else I should do? I currently on do cardio 2-3 times per week but only for fun...Fatloss will come more from diet than being on a treadmill for 3 hours per day...Oh yeah I'm on 400mg of EQ also.
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wiggs,
why dont you add in some tren? it will lean you up and no extra work.
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wiggs,
why dont you add in some tren? it will lean you up and no extra work.
I'm afraid of tren...honest truth. I did it for 3 weeks got the tren cough freaked out and quit. That was 7 years ago. Haven't touched it since...What are your experiences with it? My strength went up crazy when I was on it.
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GH15 contradicts himself daily. People are genetically different, it doesn't fit in to neat little boxes.
wrong ,,you and jason cutler got exactly same genetic ,,genetic means NOTHING in bodybuilding of the modern age 2000,,uually now day people with so csal best genetic walk 155 with huge muscle bellies btu cant even hit 160lb at 5'7 on scale,,iti has nothing to do with genetic now ,,it has all to do with abuse of drugs,,use of them ofcourse but the higher you get the more you abue them,,
as i said you and jason cutler would look same exact fish if you were both on lost island for 2 years,,you would look same,,actually he would die before you and look a lot worse than you past the 12 month mark because his natural ability to produce anything is DEAD,,inorder for it to return he would haqve to have medication or time,,and he wont have time on that lost island since hell die before,,youll win ,,youll be mr lost island 2011
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same exact tune,,you need gh as base and on top of it thsoe doses of testosterona unless you are very young 18-22 and really have veyr high natural hgh ,,which i rare ,,you still will need syntetic hgh then to get to the higher numbers but youll be able to pull 200lb 6% only on aas then IF your natural gh is at the highest level in those ages 18-22,,in general everyone is on gh before they go on high doses test inorder to NOT look bloofy and to look quality and volumized and 3 dimentional at the numbers stated
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clarification appreciated.
So that quote of guidlines i brought up from months ago is directly and only related to the age group of 18-22 or with naturally high (rare) gh levels.
for example, take your guidline of "750mg test to be 240lbs @ 10% WITHOUT gh" only applies to age group 18-22 in the gh15 bible?
i think it is important to be specific about your old posts if this is the case for others being told to go and "read bible" to avoid future confusion on the guidlines.
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God, I want to maximize my fat burning...I already have very decent size compared to your average joe but my problem is I let myself get very fat over the years, marriage, complacency then laziness. Now I'm trying to dig myself out of this hole I put myself into. i'm on 750 mg of HG sustanon (organon) my strength is through the roof, size I've added is great, I want to fuck broads 24 7. there's a little water retention but I control it with lower carbs, and .50 arimidex eod...I'm also on 100mg of t-3, 25 mg of proviron ed.
Like I've stated before, I'm not a big eater so I'm getting about 200mg of protein per day, (I'm not trying to get huge now.) I'm currently around 22%bf. In order to kick up fat burning and muscle building which in turn would burn more fat, I'm eventually (sooner than later) going to add 5 i.u. of gh, ECA and maybe clen. I'll do carb cycling and just kind of do that until progress starts...Anything else I should do? I currently on do cardio 2-3 times per week but only for fun...Fatloss will come more from diet than being on a treadmill for 3 hours per day...Oh yeah I'm on 400mg of EQ also.
bodybuilder dont do cardio unless stage time coem and really need to be shredded as in under 6% ,,for what you want its gh ,,you add tren you get nasty as in double the speed of fat loss and help tremendesly to the gh in the creation of mutant,,gh and trenbolona together WINS olympia especially in the abuses going on
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clarification appreciated.
So that quote of guidlines i brought up from months ago is directly and only related to the age group of 18-22 or with naturally high (rare) gh levels.
for example, take your guidline of "750mg test to be 240lbs @ 10% WITHOUT gh" only applies to age group 18-22 in the gh15 bible?
i think it is important to be specific about your old posts if this is the case for others being told to go and "read bible" to avoid future confusion on the guidlines.
yes,,its not rare as in 1 out of million people ,,,its rare in the fact that minority of the pupulation has it and thats why there were much less bodybuilders in the 60s in arnold time,,when natural gh is high the use of aas will give great results,,it is usually at ages 18-22 but even then you need it to be at the highest possible levels to do damage,,most go on syntetic gh because you need much more than 2-3 iu a day to create the mutants you see now day ,,this size by the way is NOT MAINTAINED,,if you get kukleo off gh he i sback to 182lb faster than you can say jack
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wrong ,,you and jason cutler got exactly same genetic ,,genetic means NOTHING in bodybuilding of the modern age 2000,,uually now day people with so csal best genetic walk 155 with huge muscle bellies btu cant even hit 160lb at 5'7 on scale,,iti has nothing to do with genetic now ,,it has all to do with abuse of drugs,,use of them ofcourse but the higher you get the more you abue them,,
as i said you and jason cutler would look same exact fish if you were both on lost island for 2 years,,you would look same,,actually he would die before you and look a lot worse than you past the 12 month mark because his natural ability to produce anything is DEAD,,inorder for it to return he would haqve to have medication or time,,and he wont have time on that lost island since hell die before,,youll win ,,youll be mr lost island 2011
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My genetics are completely different to Jay's. I'm 6'1 with tiny joints, tiny waist and average shoulders. My muscle shape is completely different, i'm a natural ecto and he is a natural endomorph. In no situation could we even look remotely similar.
I don't sipute that bodybuilding is all drugs, even the gymrats in health spa gyms are generally all drugs. That has no bearing on differences in genetics, it's not straighforward, there are lots of variables.
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My genetics are completely different to Jay's. I'm 6'1 with tiny joints, tiny waist and average shoulders. My muscle shape is completely different, i'm a natural ecto and he is a natural endomorph. In no situation could we even look remotely similar.
I don't sipute that bodybuilding is all drugs, even the gymrats in health spa gyms are generally all drugs. That has no bearing on differences in genetics, it's not straighforward, there are lots of variables.
Bro, he's not saying you're going to look like twin brothers! He's talking loss of size and what the human body will fight to maintain naturally. in that regard, the two human beings stuck on that same island will deteriorate the same way.
"look the same" after 2 years lost on an island, isn't referring to shrinking to the same height as Jay, lol.
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gh15
I am 6'3.5" and weigh 254-6lbs
What is the most I could ever be on stage competiyion lean?
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Bro, he's not saying you're going to look like twin brothers! He's talking loss of size and what the human body will fight to maintain naturally. in that regard, the two human beings stuck on that same island will deteriote the same way.
No he isn't, he is making sweeping generalistic statements like normal. This is the same fuckwit that says that you can't build natural after 18 months of training, Steve Reeves was drugged up to the eyeballs and so on and so forth.
I walk around sub 9% regardless of diet, Jay would be a fucking ballon in the same situation. What the fuck would everyone starving to death on a desert island have to do with anything. Some people hold muscle a lot better than others, some people are naturally a lot leaner than others, this isn't even a debate.
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gh15
I am 6'3.5" and weigh 254-6lbs
What is the most I could ever be on stage competiyion lean?
how would i know? dont know your bf% never met you or seen you ,,
6'4 260 from my expereicne with many many bodybuilder is hormonized ,,and usually the most impressive fellas in the gym,,epecially if single digit or 10% around there,,
they usually lose about 40lb to step on stage so somewhat around 220-225,,but those are hormonized numbers
6'2 195 is natural number for stage,,6'3 200 those numbers are natural numbers for the elite genetic respond naturally ,,they are alwys in their 20s closer to 25,,
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No he isn't, he is making sweeping generalistic statements like normal. This is the same fuckwit that says that you can't build natural after 18 months of training, Steve Reeves was drugged up to the eyeballs and so on and so forth.
I walk around sub 9% regardless of diet, Jay would be a fucking ballon in the same situation. What the fuck would everyone starving to death on a desert island have to do with anything. Some people hold muscle a lot better than others, some people are naturally a lot leaner than others, this isn't even a debate.
wrogn on all aspects,,also never said reeves was juiced to gills i said he ws on testosterone ,,and experiementing with it,,
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Ok whatever you say clown. ;)
You stick Ronnie Coleman, Jay cutler and Flex Wheeler on an island and they are all going to look pretty fucking different.
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no they wont,,human body 75% water,,ken will look like today with otu the oil ,,meanig thin twink,,ron would look thin and wont WONT resemble the so called off him when go on lower doses like now day lol ,,and jason will look thin fat...that pretty fast will become BONEY thin,,so all 3 before dying which will be within 12 months on that lost island ...will be looking about same which will be 150lb at a VERY BAD condition lol
thats the truth my friend ,,sorry you dont like to hear it
you confue respond to hormones which is everything in bodybuilding along with doses and legit product....with other things that are none related,,human body is similar ,,very small difference of low poudage such as bone structure etc,,but in general we are all alike,,
go take a look at the murderer,,,he was nasty mutant once...he also owes money still! but this is not the issue here,,hope he die fast
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yes,,its not rare as in 1 out of million people ,,,its rare in the fact that minority of the pupulation has it and thats why there were much less bodybuilders in the 60s in arnold time,,when natural gh is high the use of aas will give great results,,it is usually at ages 18-22 but even then you need it to be at the highest possible levels to do damage,,most go on syntetic gh because you need much more than 2-3 iu a day to create the mutants you see now day ,,this size by the way is NOT MAINTAINED,,if you get kukleo off gh he i sback to 182lb faster than you can say jack
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is it safe to say the longer you stay away from GH and use just anabolics to build your body, when you do add in GH you'll be able to build a better quality physique than someone whos been using GH and anabolics together for years?
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no they wont,,human body 75% water,,ken will look like today with otu the oil ,,meanig thin twink,,ron would look thin and wont WONT resemble the so called off him when go on lower doses like now day lol ,,and jason will look thin fat...that pretty fast will become BONEY thin,,so all 3 before dying which will be within 12 months on that lost island ...will be looking about same which will be 150lb at a VERY BAD condition lol
thats the truth my friend ,,sorry you dont like to hear it
you confue respond to hormones which is everything in bodybuilding along with doses and legit product....with other things that are none related,,human body is similar ,,very small difference of low poudage such as bone structure etc,,but in general we are all alike,,
go take a look at the murderer,,,he was nasty mutant once...he also owes money still! but this is not the issue here,,hope he die fast
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Small differences in bone structure and lines make a big difference visually. Weight means fuck all, it's an illusion.
Why are you talking about everyone starving to death on this hypothetical island? Yes starving people all look ill, with no muscle, no shit sherlock.
All are eating sufficently. Flex reverts to type he is going to be very skinny, stringy. Jay reverts and he is going to get fat and Ronnie reverts he is going to be somewhere in between.
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how would i know? dont know your bf% never met you or seen you ,,
6'4 260 from my expereicne with many many bodybuilder is hormonized ,,and usually the most impressive fellas in the gym,,epecially if single digit or 10% around there,,
they usually lose about 40lb to step on stage so somewhat around 220-225,,but those are hormonized numbers
6'2 195 is natural number for stage,,6'3 200 those numbers are natural numbers for the elite genetic respond naturally ,,they are alwys in their 20s closer to 25,,
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6 '4 260 is really not that big. I payed with lots of baseball players who were at that weight who were clean, they weren't fat either and most definitely they definitely didn't look like bodyuilders. I would say that is about equal to a 5 10 195 guy. Unless you mean 260 on stage? Still that is pretty small gh15 and definitey not the most hormonized people in the gym.
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Steve Reeves was drugged up to the eyeballs and so on and so forth.
Nope. Gh15 NEVER said this. Funny you call him a " clown " and a " fuckwit ". What does that make you ?
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the simple simplicity of the equation called bodybuild is the following
legit drugs + training consistanly + enough nutrition to cover for the size you aim at = advanced bodybuilder = competetive bodybuilder = the chance to win a pro card if qualified to compete
very simple formula that is kept being confused with all the rest of the balonie around
now i shall give example of how simple this foruma is
you take some no oen to be heard of hgh letsssss say something that marcus from spain sell ghfr65/3 mixed with ip failed home made gh...you add to it some anabolic steroids from some crook who is selective scamaro and there are many so you inject some testosterona enantato writen 300mg you get 15 mg lol ,,you do it 2 timme a week so you get 30 mg testosterona enan...thats quite lovely ...you add to it some ip fake dianabolona pinks that are made of pure sugar out of your mamas pussy you mixed it all in some carefuly bouthg 1.7864 long needle and 24.36 gauge ,,make sure that the vials dont see too much light because not good for fake steroid you know,,then make sure when you let your boyfriend see it that he doesnt shake the vial too much otherwize he can ruin the chromozoms of the oil inside and the bunk product may be destroyed,,you put it all in your left ass cheek and delt because gh15 said legit gh to the delt and you use marcus ghgrb34/54 = minimal to no results out of placebona effect = you about to compete suicide and late at night you come to getbig and write a thretening pm to gh15 or beggin pm to show you the right way ,,while all along gh15 is talking about the right way million times a month
^^^^this is the equation of 50-60% of fellas who try to be bodybuild^^^^^^
now to the right equation ....
you take nordic gh,,legit gh one of best kind there is for many years for bodybuild in americana ,, you add it to some oil of a good cook like alpha and strango if they willing to listen to your beggings ,,then you have finaly legti testosterona and trenbolona and hgh ,,all legit wawa wee wa ,, all legit,, you nowwww come to gym and actualy see you growing and leaning,,then when you lean enough you load on the doses of those legit products ,,and to your great surprize your average shitty genetic explode with veins that you never though you had and size into the 200+ 6% ,,you suddenly look like bodybuild,,and get respect and looks from all the black fella in your gym,,the whores sudenly look down when pasing next to you ,,and you feel jacked swole yet lean on a regular basis and not that fatzo bloofy piece of cake you felt before hand on the bunk equation ,, you take all those products and putt them in the ass with a needle you kept in your house for 2 years and just clean with alcohol lol = looking like true bodybuild ,,having a magazine physiqe ,,and actualy steping on stage and try to get pro card or atleast do some high level competition and place well or even just get fitness contracts ,,or just look damn impressive like you always wanted
i told you friends,,
s i m p l i c i t y is something i like you can see it in my short posting
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gh15 is part of TEAM BIG BFRS.
If you all don't shut the fuck up we will gangrape your whore Americano wives. Those drunken Americano whore will love it too.
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wrogn on all aspects,,also never said reeves was juiced to gills i said he ws on testosterone ,,and experiementing with it,,
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Wrong. At 5 feet tall and 120 pounds with a 5 inch wrist I would make a very poor poster boy for bodydoping. Retract your libelous statement quoted above or prepare to have your knees capped by a mob of angry midgets armed with souvenir sized Louisville Sluggers.
Do not go there, gh15. ;D Later days, kid. ;)
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the simple simplicity of the equation called bodybuild is the following
legit drugs + training consistanly + enough nutrition to cover for the size you aim at = advanced bodybuilder = competetive bodybuilder = the chance to win a pro card if qualified to compete
very simple formula that is kept being confused with all the rest of the balonie around
now i shall give example of how simple this foruma is
you take some no oen to be heard of hgh letsssss say something that marcus from spain sell ghfr65/3 mixed with ip failed home made gh...you add to it some anabolic steroids from some crook who is selective scamaro and there are many so you inject some testosterona enantato writen 300mg you get 15 mg lol ,,you do it 2 timme a week so you get 30 mg testosterona enan...thats quite lovely ...you add to it some ip fake dianabolona pinks that are made of pure sugar out of your mamas pussy you mixed it all in some carefuly bouthg 1.7864 long needle and 24.36 gauge ,,make sure that the vials dont see too much light because not good for fake steroid you know,,then make sure when you let your boyfriend see it that he doesnt shake the vial too much otherwize he can ruin the chromozoms of the oil inside and the bunk product may be destroyed,,you put it all in your left ass cheek and delt because gh15 said legit gh to the delt and you use marcus ghgrb34/54 = minimal to no results out of placebona effect = you about to compete suicide and late at night you come to getbig and write a thretening pm to gh15 or beggin pm to show you the right way ,,while all along gh15 is talking about the right way million times a month
^^^^this is the equation of 50-60% of fellas who try to be bodybuild^^^^^^
now to the right equation ....
you take nordic gh,,legit gh one of best kind there is for many years for bodybuild in americana ,, you add it to some oil of a good cook like alpha and strango if they willing to listen to your beggings ,,then you have finaly legti testosterona and trenbolona and hgh ,,all legit wawa wee wa ,, all legit,, you nowwww come to gym and actualy see you growing and leaning,,then when you lean enough you load on the doses of those legit products ,,and to your great surprize your average shitty genetic explode with veins that you never though you had and size into the 200+ 6% ,,you suddenly look like bodybuild,,and get respect and looks from all the black fella in your gym,,the whores sudenly look down when pasing next to you ,,and you feel jacked swole yet lean on a regular basis and not that fatzo bloofy piece of cake you felt before hand on the bunk equation ,, you take all those products and putt them in the ass with a needle you kept in your house for 2 years and just clean with alcohol lol = looking like true bodybuild ,,having a magazine physiqe ,,and actualy steping on stage and try to get pro card or atleast do some high level competition and place well or even just get fitness contracts ,,or just look damn impressive like you always wanted
i told you friends,,
s i m p l i c i t y is something i like you can see it in my short posting
gh15 approved
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the simple simplicity of the equation called bodybuild is the following
legit drugs + training consistanly + enough nutrition to cover for the size you aim at = advanced bodybuilder = competetive bodybuilder = the chance to win a pro card if qualified to compete
very simple formula that is kept being confused with all the rest of the balonie around
now i shall give example of how simple this foruma is
you take some no oen to be heard of hgh letsssss say something that marcus from spain sell ghfr65/3 mixed with ip failed home made gh...you add to it some anabolic steroids from some crook who is selective scamaro and there are many so you inject some testosterona enantato writen 300mg you get 15 mg lol ,,you do it 2 timme a week so you get 30 mg testosterona enan...thats quite lovely ...you add to it some ip fake dianabolona pinks that are made of pure sugar out of your mamas pussy you mixed it all in some carefuly bouthg 1.7864 long needle and 24.36 gauge ,,make sure that the vials dont see too much light because not good for fake steroid you know,,then make sure when you let your boyfriend see it that he doesnt shake the vial too much otherwize he can ruin the chromozoms of the oil inside and the bunk product may be destroyed,,you put it all in your left ass cheek and delt because gh15 said legit gh to the delt and you use marcus ghgrb34/54 = minimal to no results out of placebona effect = you about to compete suicide and late at night you come to getbig and write a thretening pm to gh15 or beggin pm to show you the right way ,,while all along gh15 is talking about the right way million times a month
^^^^this is the equation of 50-60% of fellas who try to be bodybuild^^^^^^
now to the right equation ....
you take nordic gh,,legit gh one of best kind there is for many years for bodybuild in americana ,, you add it to some oil of a good cook like alpha and strango if they willing to listen to your beggings ,,then you have finaly legti testosterona and trenbolona and hgh ,,all legit wawa wee wa ,, all legit,, you nowwww come to gym and actualy see you growing and leaning,,then when you lean enough you load on the doses of those legit products ,,and to your great surprize your average shitty genetic explode with veins that you never though you had and size into the 200+ 6% ,,you suddenly look like bodybuild,,and get respect and looks from all the black fella in your gym,,the whores sudenly look down when pasing next to you ,,and you feel jacked swole yet lean on a regular basis and not that fatzo bloofy piece of cake you felt before hand on the bunk equation ,, you take all those products and putt them in the ass with a needle you kept in your house for 2 years and just clean with alcohol lol = looking like true bodybuild ,,having a magazine physiqe ,,and actualy steping on stage and try to get pro card or atleast do some high level competition and place well or even just get fitness contracts ,,or just look damn impressive like you always wanted
i told you friends,,
s i m p l i c i t y is something i like you can see it in my short posting
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You are selling a dream...telling frustrated gym rats what they want to hear: just take these drugs in these doses, and as long as they are legit drugs, you'll look like someone who belongs on the Olympia lineup. Of course you are popular. Politicians are popular for the same reason. Unfortunately, it does not work that way. Do you really think that you and top pros are the only bodybuilders in the World that take testoterone and trenbolone? Do you think that top pros have a "secret" source that only they have access to and that this is the only source that sells genuine testosterone and trenbolone and that all other steroid-using gym rats are taking fake stuff? You just don't want to admit that there are thousands of testosterone + trenbolone users in the World who take the real deal and still look like shit, because it this means your theory is garbage...
Well, let me tell you something. Years ago, I lived in France, Nice, and I worked out at a gym that cattered to the hardcore crowd. Several of those guys were on trenbolone. You could go straight to the pharmacy and buy Parabolan, the best trenbolone preparation available, without prescription. Several of those guys were on trenbolone, and they would stack it with Russian d-bol that came straight from the factory! And yeah, many of those guys were big, but they were tiny compared to top pros and they definitely did not have the muscle quality of a top pro.
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You are selling a dream...telling frustrated gym rats what they want to hear: just take these drugs in these doses, and as long as they are legit drugs, you'll look like someone who belongs on the Olympia lineup. Of course you are popular. Politicians are popular for the same reason. Unfortunately, it does not work that way. Do you really think that you and top pros are the only bodybuilders in the World that take testoterone and trenbolone? Do you think that top pros have a "secret" source that only they have access to and that this is the only source that sells genuine testosterone and trenbolone and that all other steroid-using gym rats are taking fake stuff? You just don't want to admit that there are thousands of testosterone + trenbolone users in the World who take the real deal and still look like shit, because it this means your theory is garbage...
Well, let me tell you something. Years ago, I lived in France, Nice, and I worked out at a gym that cattered to the hardcore crowd. Several of those guys were on trenbolone. You could go straight to the pharmacy and buy Parabolan, the best trenbolone preparation available, without prescription. Several of those guys were on trenbolone, and they would stack it with Russian d-bol that came straight from the factory! And yeah, many of those guys were big, but they were tiny compared to top pros and they definitely did not have the muscle quality of a top pro.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You just answered that question yourself, just tren and dbol alone wont make you pro size, factor in gh + slin and makes a world of difference. You think the pros of the 70's and 80s could hold a candle next to the size of current pros today? Im say size not quality muscle.
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You just answered that question yourself, just tren and dbol alone wont make you pro size, factor in gh + slin and makes a world of difference. You think the pros of the 70's and 80s could hold a candle next to the size of current pros today? Im say size not quality muscle.
I repeat my point: do you think that top pros are the only guys in the World who take testosterone + trenbolone + GH + insulin? Because this is what you seem to be suggesting by agreeing with GH15's retard logic that the only thing that separates a top pro from an average guy who trains with weights are drugs. Face it: there are thousands of gym rats throughout the World who take as much drugs or more than top pros, so obviously, drugs cannot be the only thing that separated top pros from average bodybuilders otherwise every large gym in the U.S would have two or three dudes with physiques like Jay's at the 2009 Olympia. Stop being GH15's bitch and think for yourself.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I repeat my point: do you think that top pros are the only guys in the World who take testosterone + trenbolone + GH + insulin? Because this is what you seem to be suggesting by agreeing with GH15's retard logic that the only thing that separates a top pro from an average guy who trains with weights are drugs. Face it: there are thousands of gym rats throughout the World who take as much drugs or more than top pros, so obviously, drugs cannot be the only thing that separated top pros from average bodybuilders otherwise every large gym in the U.S would have two or three dudes with physiques like Jay's at the 2009 Olympia. Stop being GH15's bitch and think for yourself.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Two gym rats, same cycle, same training method. One pro, one not.
What separates them? Work ethic. The extra rep.
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Two gym rats, same cycle, same training method. One pro, one not.
What separates them? Work ethic. The extra rep.
Me thinks that it would be genetic response to the gear as the factor that seperates the two.
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I repeat my point: do you think that top pros are the only guys in the World who take testosterone + trenbolone + GH + insulin? Because this is what you seem to be suggesting by agreeing with GH15's retard logic that the only thing that separates a top pro from an average guy who trains with weights are drugs. Face it: there are thousands of gym rats throughout the World who take as much drugs or more than top pros, so obviously, drugs cannot be the only thing that separated top pros from average bodybuilders otherwise every large gym in the U.S would have two or three dudes with physiques like Jay's at the 2009 Olympia. Stop being GH15's bitch and think for yourself.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Geez you become more and more stupid by the day, Im not sure you have even set foot in a gym or been around the competitive circuit. Why do you think it is that guys that step on stage are all from countries where aas, slin + gh are free accessible and legit? Its all about the drugs like gh15 says, Im from a country where majority of products are hard to find and overpriced as in 250$ for 10ml, and very much under dosed.
You think alot of aspiring bodybuilders want to live in the states or fly to Thailand because they like the beaches there? You need to lay down that crack pipe and stop watching gorilla porn. Yes, ive met guys bigger than cutler and seen most pros in person, you think these people care less about competing? Hang on, you think that guy who added 20lbs of muscle to his 230lb 6%bf physique in 1 year was because he discovered if you do incline presses at a 46Degree angle instead of 45degree angle it greatly changes your body? Who the hell you think you’re fooling here? have you even tried aas gh slin? While gh15 is known for his indepth knowledge of bbing in general all i fucking know you for is getting your rocks off to silverbacks, you contribute nothing but bullcrap.
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Geez you become more and more stupid by the day, Im not sure you have even set foot in a gym or been around the competitive circuit. Why do you think it is that guys that step on stage are all from countries where aas, slin + gh are free accessible and legit? Its all about the drugs like gh15 says, Im from a country where majority of products are hard to find and overpriced as in 250$ for 10ml, and very much under dosed.
You think alot of aspiring bodybuilders want to live in the states or fly to Thailand because they like the beaches there? You need to lay down that crack pipe and stop watching gorilla porn. Yes, ive met guys bigger than cutler and seen most pros in person, you think these people care less about competing? Hang on, you think that guy who added 20lbs of muscle to his 230lb 6%bf physique in 1 year was because he discovered if you do incline presses at a 46Degree angle instead of 45degree angle it greatly changes your body? Who the hell you think you’re fooling here? have you even tried aas gh slin? While gh15 is known for his indepth knowledge of bbing in general all i fucking know you for is getting your rocks off to silverbacks, you contribute nothing but bullcrap.
You totally missed the point bro! WOW! When did suckmymuscle ever say drugs were not important? He was prooving a point, a very true one at that.
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i dont have time right now to answer postin specificly,,but this is the answer to all,,
it is the LEGIT HORMONES who will determine how well you will do and the ability of you to sustain the doses needed and respond well to them ,,LEGIT HORMONES ,,many do not work with legit hormones ,,i keep telling you this,,secondly it is age,,the youger you start with legit hormone and bodybuild in general ...the better you will do ,,
i keep saying this over and over,,there could be many profesionals out of many places if you had work with legit hormones and did it long enough at the doses needed,,winning a pro show is where genetic come to play too as in the top we all look the exact same with changes due to over all drug intake dial up and genetic ...but its only in the top of the competiton when you are profesional already a fella like ron colman would win against fella like dorian yates due to the genetic final details since both would use same legit hormones,,
thats about it ,,
LEGIT HORMONES ,,many think they have legit but they have bunk ,,i keep telling you this LEGIT HORMONES IS WHAT PUT QUALITY SIZE ON BODYBUILD
AGE, is very importanto ,,39 is not 29 and 30 and 30 is not 23 ...no matter how you want it to be,,
gh15 approved
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Geez you become more and more stupid by the day
Oh, the irony of people such as yourself calling me stupid...anyway, on to your points.
Im not sure you have even set foot in a gym or been around the competitive circuit. Why do you think it is that guys that step on stage are all from countries where aas, slin + gh are free accessible and legit?
Most top pros are from the U.S and Western European countries where steroids, GH and insulin are not easily accesible. In fact, in all these countries steroids and other anabolics are class III prescription substances that require a federal validation for the physician to prescribe it. Going by your logic, then Brazil, India and China should have all the top pros since in these countries you can walk right into a drug store and purchase state-of-the-art steroids, GH and insulin straight from the factory. So why aren't top pros from countries where you can walk right into the drug store and buy the drugs? Riddle me that, dummy?
Its all about the drugs like gh15 says, Im from a country where majority of products are hard to find and overpriced as in 250$ for 10ml, and very much under dosed.
If it's all about the drugs, then why are some pros Olympia material and others never get callouts even at lesser shows like the Ironman Pro Invitational? They take exactly the same shit, in exactly the same doses, and yet some become Mr.Olympia whilts others fail epically at being top pros. Riddle me that, dummy?
You think alot of aspiring bodybuilders want to live in the states or fly to Thailand because they like the beaches there?
Getting legit steroids(Thai d-bol, equipoise, Masteron) is a lot easier in Thailand than in the U.S. Then why aren't all top pros from Thailand? Riddle me that, dummy?
You need to lay down that crack pipe and stop watching gorilla porn. Yes, ive met guys bigger than cutler and seen most pros in person, you think these people care less about competing?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight...so guys as big as Cutler are commonplace, huh? Guys who are 5'9 at 275 lbs with 5% bodyfat, huh? No: you need to lay the crack pipe down, you moron.
Hang on, you think that guy who added 20lbs of muscle to his 230lb 6%bf physique in 1 year was because he discovered if you do incline presses at a 46Degree angle instead of 45degree angle it greatly changes your body? Who the hell you think you’re fooling here? have you even tried aas gh slin? While gh15 is known for his indepth knowledge of bbing in general all i fucking know you for is getting your rocks off to silverbacks, you contribute nothing but bullcrap.
Retards like you are everything that is wrong with Getbig. Fuckless morons who are completely devoid of wit, intelligence and ability to think for themselves. You, my friend, are a complete follower and forever will be. This is your lot in life. Never an alpha who makes his own decisions, but a beta male who waits your man to make all your decisions for you like the little bottom boy bitch you are.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Oh, the irony of people such as yourself calling me stupid...anyway, on to your points.
Most top pros are from the U.S and Western European countries where steroids, GH and insulin are not easily accesible. In fact, in all these countries steroids and other anabolics are class III prescription substances that require a federal validation for the physician to prescribe it. Going by your logic, then Brazil, India and China should have all the top pros since in these countries you can walk right into a drug store and purchase state-of-the-art steroids, GH and insulin straight from the factory. So why aren't top pros from countries where you can walk right into the drug store and buy the drugs? Riddle me that, dummy?
If it's all about the drugs, then why are some pros Olympia material and others never get callouts even at lesser shows like the Ironman Pro Invitational? They take exactly the same shit, in exactly the same doses, and yet some become Mr.Olympia whilts others fail epically at being top pros. Riddle me that, dummy?
Getting legit steroids(Thai d-bol, equipoise, Masteron) is a lot easier in Thailand than in the U.S. Then why aren't all top pros from Thailand? Riddle me that, dummy?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight...so guys as big as Cutler are commonplace, huh? Guys who are 5'9 at 275 lbs with 5% bodyfat, huh? No: you need to lay the crack pipe down, you moron.
Retards like you are everything that is wrong with Getbig. Fuckless morons who are completely devoid of wit, intelligence and ability to think for themselves. You, my friend, are a complete follower and forever will be. This is your lot in life. Never an alpha who makes his own decisions, but a beta male who waits your man to make all your decisions for you like the little bottom boy bitch you are.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
lmao! definitely agree. gh15 could tell these guys eating flounder with bull tsticles is the key to going pro and they would do it.
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lmao! definitely agree. gh15 could tell these guys eating flounder with bull tsticles is the key to going pro and they would do it.
Yep. They are complete followers with no personality or intellect at all. I cannot really blame them, because most men have a little bit of bitch inside them and want to follow a leader. Or as Arnold once said:
"Most men have a feminine soul. They want a real man, a hero, to worship and tell them what to do."
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Yep. They are complete followers with no personality or intellect at all. I cannot really blame them, because most men have a little bit of bitch inside them and want to follow a leader. Or as Arnold once said:
"Most men have a feminine soul. They want a real man, a hero, to worship and tell them what to do."
SUCKMYMUSCLE
yep. I can see why though to be honest, most are not very confident in the first place with this whole "hobby". I think gh15 is great for up and comers, teenagers, kids in their early twenties, guys who live in small towns who train by themselves and don't have anyone to guide them, but to have some of these 35 year old men acting like he told them something they never heard before.
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and he wont have time on that lost island since hell die before,,youll win ,,youll be mr lost island 2011
LOL